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Post by mustlovecats on Apr 20, 2019 18:59:15 GMT
So I was at Joann just now and a lady was nonchalantly taking pictures of recipes in a recipe magazine. Then she put it back and left without buying it. I think she took maybe 15 pics of recipes while I was waiting in the line.
Your opinion, ethical or maybe not so much? I don’t think it’s a copyright issue in and of itself but now she has a bunch of recipes out of a volume she didn’t actually buy and the creators didn’t get their fair pay from that use. But they will still sell that magazine to someone else. She didn’t steal a physical item.
Would it be different if she was at the library not a retail store?
Just wondering what you think.
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Post by kernriver on Apr 20, 2019 19:06:01 GMT
I dont think its illegal but is tacky, and I would be embarrassed to do it.
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Post by ~summer~ on Apr 20, 2019 19:19:48 GMT
Not a fan.
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Post by mom on Apr 20, 2019 19:37:30 GMT
Definitely a no, IMHO.
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Post by katlady on Apr 20, 2019 19:38:39 GMT
I think that is a grey area, especially with new technology. We could have gone to the library and copied the recipes with pen and paper, or a copier machine. In a store though, the magazine is there for people to buy. So like I said, a grey area.
ETA - I also don’t like that people use Barnes & Nobles like a library, but I guess B&N doesn’t care.
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Post by rodeomom on Apr 20, 2019 19:42:16 GMT
I think it's stealing!
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Post by amom23 on Apr 20, 2019 19:45:01 GMT
I'd say tacky, but if I saw someone do that at Barnes & Noble I wouldn't maybe think too much about it. But I am the person who will take a photo of a book cover so I can remember to buy it on my Kindle.
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Post by johnnysmom on Apr 20, 2019 19:49:46 GMT
I'd say tacky, but if I saw someone do that at Barnes & Noble I wouldn't maybe think too much about it. But I am the person who will take a photo of a book cover so I can remember to buy it on my Kindle. A pic of the cover is different, what you're doing makes perfect sense (be to it remember it later to buy yourself or put on your Christmas gift list or whatever, it's just the cover). Truthfully I could see take a pic of a single recipe from inside the magazine (I probably wouldn't do it, but someone else doing it wouldn't phase me) but 15 recipes? That's over the top IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 20:11:31 GMT
Totally wrong IMO The magazines are there to be sold. Someone’s job depends on the sales of those magazines.
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Post by lisae on Apr 20, 2019 20:14:27 GMT
I think it is a copyright violation. She could have written down the names of the recipes and later checked the magazine's website to see if they had voluntarily put them online.
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Post by JoP on Apr 20, 2019 20:15:19 GMT
Totally wrong IMO The magazines are there to be sold. Someone’s job depends on the sales of those magazines.
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Post by chaosisapony on Apr 20, 2019 20:17:48 GMT
Tacky.
If the magazine was in a library I wouldn't mind but in a retail store I don't think it's appropriate.
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Apr 20, 2019 20:19:50 GMT
I'd say tacky, but if I saw someone do that at Barnes & Noble I wouldn't maybe think too much about it. But I am the person who will take a photo of a book cover so I can remember to buy it on my Kindle. Truthfully I could see take a pic of a single recipe from inside the magazine (I probably wouldn't do it, but someone else doing it wouldn't phase me) but 15 recipes? That's over the top IMO. That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Post by anniefb on Apr 20, 2019 20:20:50 GMT
It's a no from me. Those magazines are there to be sold, not read and copied in store. If you want to do that, go to a library!
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Post by berty on Apr 20, 2019 20:27:11 GMT
I think that is a grey area, especially with new technology. We could have gone to the library and copied the recipes with pen and paper, or a copier machine. In a store though, the magazine is there for people to buy. So like I said, a grey area. ETA - I also don’t like that people use Barnes & Nobles like a library, but I guess B&N doesn’t care. When I was in school, before you could look everything up on the interwebs, sometimes it was much easier for me to get info from a book at Borders than trek to the library. However, I felt it wasn't right to just use them and always purchased the books.
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Post by disneypal on Apr 20, 2019 20:42:45 GMT
I will admit that I have done it before-not at a retail store but while waiting in a doctor’s office, I saw a recipe and took a photo of the page. The way I look at it though, if a magazine has several recipes that look good to you, then just buy it.
The one I took was in a magazine that was 4 months old so that issue wasn’t still in stores.
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Post by mustlovecats on Apr 20, 2019 20:53:55 GMT
I will admit that I have done it before-not at a retail store but while waiting in a doctor’s office, I saw a recipe and took a photo of the page. The way I look at it though, if a magazine has several recipes that look good to you, then just buy it. The one I took was in a magazine that was 4 months old so that issue wasn’t still in stores. See to me this seems different. The magazine was bought for you to read in the waiting room. Rather than tearing out a page so the next person can’t use it I think taking a pic makes sense. The magazine was properly purchased and left for its proper use so taking a pic of one recipe doesn’t short anyone in this scenario it would seem to me.
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Post by roberta on Apr 20, 2019 21:02:29 GMT
Tacky, rude and immoral IMHO. One recipe I would think is ok. I have been known to take pics of recipes, craft projects or the end of an article I was reading in the doctor’s office but it would be one item.
ETA: just read above. So I am not alone on that. The magazine was purchased or given to the office and taking a pic of one item is no different than a photo copy.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Apr 20, 2019 21:06:04 GMT
Definitely wrong. She did this in order to avoid purchasing the magazine. That to me is copyright infringement.
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Post by trollie on Apr 20, 2019 21:19:49 GMT
Sketch. Should not be done. Taking pics of a purchased magazine in a waiting room is a different story.
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Post by jenjie on Apr 20, 2019 21:33:49 GMT
I will admit that I have done it before-not at a retail store but while waiting in a doctor’s office, I saw a recipe and took a photo of the page. The way I look at it though, if a magazine has several recipes that look good to you, then just buy it. The one I took was in a magazine that was 4 months old so that issue wasn’t still in stores. See to me this seems different. The magazine was bought for you to read in the waiting room. Rather than tearing out a page so the next person can’t use it I think taking a pic makes sense. The magazine was properly purchased and left for its proper use so taking a pic of one recipe doesn’t short anyone in this scenario it would seem to me. Agreed
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Post by gar on Apr 20, 2019 21:47:38 GMT
I’ve photographed a recipe from a magazine I was given to read at the hairdressers while my colour was on, but 15? In a retail setting? Nope.
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 20, 2019 21:50:28 GMT
That’s unethical. If she took that many pictures she should have just bought the whole thing. There is no guarantee that that magazine will sell, especially in today’s world where everything is online. Not sure if it’s a copyright violation though. I think it for sure would be if she took the pictures home, and then uploaded them onto her blog or Pinterest without crediting the author/magazine. But if it’s just for her I think it is technically ok. It’s like taking a picture of art at a museum. If it’s just for you it’s ok (assuming the museum allows photography). But if you then take it and say it’s yours or do something publically with it, then it is a copyright violation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 22:11:45 GMT
Big no-no. She should have purchased the magazine.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 20, 2019 22:16:25 GMT
I’ve photographed a recipe from a magazine I was given to read at the hairdressers while my colour was on, but 15? In a retail setting? Nope. Seriously, are you me?!?! I was about to post that I have taken photos of recipes in magazines at the hairdresser, but I would never do it in a shop or newsagent.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 3:09:16 GMT
Hum. So I have copied the name of the recipe to find it online and sometimes found that it isn’t the right recipe or it is changed a little bit. Sometimes it isn’t online at all. I lost a very expensive magazine that I bought for two recipes. The recipes didn’t show up online, until this day they aren’t on line. I sent a copy of my receipt for the magazine to the main office, so sad, too bad.
I copied those recipes.
But not buy the magazine? Would not even occur to me to copy without buying first.
Btw, no recipe can be copywrited, since you can go back hundreds of years and find similar recipes used in the 1209’s as are in use now.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 21, 2019 4:00:34 GMT
If there are that many recipes you’re interested in in one magazine, seriously just buy the magazine already. Really, it’s what? $7-8? If she was that opposed to paying for it she could have looked for the magazine in the library.
I don’t have a problem with the people taking a pic or three of a page in a doctor’s office or at the hair dresser, those magazines were purchased for the purpose of people reading while they’re waiting, and nine times out of 10 they’re several months old by the time you see it so you’re not going to find it in a store anyway so it’s fair game. But a current magazine in a retail store that they’re selling? No, no, NO.
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Post by tincin on Apr 21, 2019 4:08:02 GMT
I don’t see it as any different than opening a quilting magazine and taking photos of the patterns. It’s stealing.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 21, 2019 19:15:07 GMT
Hum. So I have copied the name of the recipe to find it online and sometimes found that it isn’t the right recipe or it is changed a little bit. Sometimes it isn’t online at all. I lost a very expensive magazine that I bought for two recipes. The recipes didn’t show up online, until this day they aren’t on line. I sent a copy of my receipt for the magazine to the main office, so sad, too bad. I copied those recipes. But not buy the magazine? Would not even occur to me to copy without buying first. Btw, no recipe can be copywrited, since you can go back hundreds of years and find similar recipes used in the 1209’s as are in use now. A list of ingredients can’t be copyrighted but the precise wording of the recipe is certainly protected. It’s a copyright violation to take those pictures. I don’t care if you do it at the hairdressers or at a friend’s house because someone did buy the magazine. But don’t steal from a magazine stand. Not you, but in general.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 22:32:28 GMT
I wouldn't do it and do not think it is the right thing do.
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