Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Apr 24, 2019 20:40:20 GMT
Interesting. I kind of agree they've gone a little too far, although I don't understand the issue with head scarves or satin caps? Pajamas probably should be left at home, but I imagine it's a slippery slope.
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Post by prapea on Apr 24, 2019 20:53:39 GMT
I am just taking a wild guess here. Principal saw black women walking in with satin caps and decided to start a dress code.
Lot of curly/kinky curly haired people wear satin vaps to bed to protect their curls
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 24, 2019 20:57:43 GMT
No leggings = no Lululemon or Athleta. Let ‘em try it in some suburbs. Ha.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 21:01:50 GMT
Lot of curly/kinky curly haired people wear satin vaps to bed to protect their curls I think the point is if it's not an emergency, anything you wear to bed is not appropriate. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 24, 2019 21:08:07 GMT
Lot of curly/kinky curly haired people wear satin vaps to bed to protect their curls I think the point is if it's not an emergency, anything you wear to bed is not appropriate. I think that putting more barriers between parents and school is probably a bad idea. If someone is being individually inappropriate, handle it. Otherwise, let people live. |
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Post by trollie on Apr 24, 2019 21:10:28 GMT
I'll be honest. I walked onto campus one day in my PJs (completely covered but definitely PJs), no make up and hair not done. Super embarrassing, but my first grader would not get out of the car on her own. Another first grader had been chasing her around the playground at recesses (was the first I was hearing about it), and she would not get out of the car and go to the playground and wait for school to start by herself. I parked the car, walked her onto campus and had to find her teacher to explain the situation and drop my child off. This was the first time I was meeting this teacher btw. (Alternative was for her to be late or to miss school.)
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Post by ddly on Apr 24, 2019 21:15:11 GMT
As a high school teacher, I agree! |
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Post by mustlovecats on Apr 24, 2019 21:23:12 GMT
Looks like a pretty productive way to police nonwhite and female bodies.
If’n that’s what you wanna do, that is.
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Post by Merge on Apr 24, 2019 21:28:53 GMT
This is our district. On the one hand, I understand that this principal was brought in to change the direction of this school, which has struggled academically. I get that she's trying to establish a different culture at the school.
On the other hand, you don't gain parental support by alienating people. So yeah. Kind of a rock and a hard place, here.
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Post by Merge on Apr 24, 2019 21:30:19 GMT
Looks like a pretty productive way to police nonwhite and female bodies. If’n that’s what you wanna do, that is. Yeah, I hear you. The principal is a black woman just so you know. |
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Post by garcia5050 on Apr 24, 2019 21:30:30 GMT
The quoted woman said she came to school with a satin cap because her child had broken his arm and was handed the flyer. Now that's a load of crap. In this case, she was supposed to make herself presentable before picking up her child? That's ridiculous.
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Post by mustlovecats on Apr 24, 2019 21:33:21 GMT
Looks like a pretty productive way to police nonwhite and female bodies. If’n that’s what you wanna do, that is. Yeah, I hear you. The principal is a black woman just so you know. I googled her. It’s my opinion a black woman is perfectly capable of policing nonwhite and female bodies, however. Sometimes it comes from inside the house, you know what I mean? |
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Post by myshelly on Apr 24, 2019 21:43:25 GMT
Did you see the picture of the woman in the Marylin Monroe tshirt who started this whole thing? It was just a shirt. It wasn’t a dress.
We are talking about a woman who flat out couldn’t be bothered to put on pants.
Pants.
The woman tried to go on campus in a shirt with NO PANTS ON.
If you can’t be bothered to wear pants in public, maybe you do need a dress code 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by trollie on Apr 24, 2019 21:50:47 GMT
Did you see the picture of the woman in the Marylin Monroe tshirt who started this whole thing? It was just a shirt. It wasn’t a dress. We are talking about a woman who flat out couldn’t be bothered to put on pants. Pants. The woman tried to go on campus in a shirt with NO PANTS ON. If you can’t be bothered to wear pants in public, maybe you do need a dress code 🤷🏻♀️ Not my style of dress, but she is covered. I think it is fine. She is a parent, not a student. |
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Post by myshelly on Apr 24, 2019 21:52:16 GMT
Did you see the picture of the woman in the Marylin Monroe tshirt who started this whole thing? It was just a shirt. It wasn’t a dress. We are talking about a woman who flat out couldn’t be bothered to put on pants. Pants. The woman tried to go on campus in a shirt with NO PANTS ON. If you can’t be bothered to wear pants in public, maybe you do need a dress code 🤷🏻♀️ Not my style of dress, but she is covered. I think it is fine. She is a parent, not a student. We must have a really different definition of covered then. She most certainly is not fine. And I think it’s appalling any adult would leave their house like that, much less try to go into a school. |
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Post by trollie on Apr 24, 2019 21:54:59 GMT
Not my style of dress, but she is covered. I think it is fine. She is a parent, not a student. We must have a really different definition of covered then. She most certainly is not fine. And I think it’s appalling any adult would leave their house like that, much less try to go into a school. Maybe we're not looking at the same pic. Her legs are showing. That is it. |
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 24, 2019 22:01:46 GMT
And yet it seems like athletileisure is still ok... 🤔
This should be fun for that school. If I were them I would prepare for lawsuits on discriminatory practices.
What a dumb idea.
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 24, 2019 22:05:44 GMT
Her outfit met the fingertip length test. She was covered. I would not deny a parent access based on what I saw in the video.
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Post by freebird on Apr 24, 2019 22:13:42 GMT
I saw the t-shirt dress. It looked more like a beach cover up, but the key words "cover up". I DO NOT like that she can't wear a headscarf. What if she were muslim? What if she wore a head wrap like I see many black women wearing? What if she were Indian man and it was a turban? She looked clean, her body parts were covered, let her be.
I think they missed the part where mom cares about her kid, makes sure she's getting to and from school. Doesn't that count for something?
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Apr 24, 2019 22:19:20 GMT
I think the point is if it's not an emergency, anything you wear to bed is not appropriate. I think that putting more barriers between parents and school is probably a bad idea. If someone is being individually inappropriate, handle it. Otherwise, let people live. ITA! |
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Post by roxiemarie0524 on Apr 24, 2019 22:20:59 GMT
If this school is struggling, than possibly alienating parents probably isn’t the way to go. I would think that they would want parent support and I’m not sure this policy would achieve that.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 24, 2019 22:40:23 GMT
There was it a single day my mother sent/dropped me off at school without a silk scarf over her hair in pin curls. Not one. ( although I fully admit that by 2nd grade she didn’t get out of bed before I left for school so we are taking 3 years. ) AND she went to a few parent teacher conferences with a silk scarf over her pin curls. It is a bit too far imho.
If they had said anything she wouldn’t have gone. I was child 3 with good grades she could care less. I spent my childhood trying to get my mother to give a damn about me and a policy like this would have blown it all to hell. ( not that I got anywhere with that anyway )
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Post by LeaP on Apr 24, 2019 22:47:58 GMT
I rather enjoy seeing these dress code violations at my local schools. Seriously, I think it is an overstep. I personally never wear any of those things, but think imposing a rule on others is wrong. Don't we pride ourselves being a free country? Rugged individualists? And then we make rules like this?
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Apr 24, 2019 22:57:35 GMT
If I were that principal, I'd be thrilled just to have parents show up!
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Post by hop2 on Apr 24, 2019 23:01:40 GMT
What about a cancer patient who wears a scarf on thier head?
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 24, 2019 23:05:41 GMT
I saw the t-shirt dress. It looked more like a beach cover up, but the key words "cover up". I DO NOT like that she can't wear a headscarf. What if she were muslim? What if she wore a head wrap like I see many black women wearing? What if she were Indian man and it was a turban? She looked clean, her body parts were covered, let her be. I think they missed the part where mom cares about her kid, makes sure she's getting to and from school. Doesn't that count for something? Her kid was getting bullied at another school, so mom tried to enroll her elsewhere for her well being. And this happens. No wonder parents don't trust school systems. We need to stop letting folks down like this. |
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Post by myshelly on Apr 24, 2019 23:12:03 GMT
I saw the t-shirt dress. It looked more like a beach cover up, but the key words "cover up". I DO NOT like that she can't wear a headscarf. What if she were muslim? What if she wore a head wrap like I see many black women wearing? What if she were Indian man and it was a turban? She looked clean, her body parts were covered, let her be. I think they missed the part where mom cares about her kid, makes sure she's getting to and from school. Doesn't that count for something? Her kid was getting bullied at another school, so mom tried to enroll her elsewhere for her well being. And this happens. No wonder parents don't trust school systems. We need to stop letting folks down like this. And maybe showing up like that is the best way to ensure your kid gets made fun of at her new school, too. Get a clue, trashy lady. Is it wrong to judge people blah, blah, blah? Yes, but is it true? Yes. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 24, 2019 23:20:51 GMT
Her kid was getting bullied at another school, so mom tried to enroll her elsewhere for her well being. And this happens. No wonder parents don't trust school systems. We need to stop letting folks down like this. And maybe showing up like that is the best way to ensure your kid gets made fun of at her new school, too. Get a clue, trashy lady. Is it wrong to judge people blah, blah, blah? Yes, but is it true? Yes. Do you. As a teacher, I see a lot. I know we have families struggling with death, abuse, poverty. I know we have homeless families. I'm not going to judge based on one outfit. I need to understand that people have stories, that our students have stories, and I owe it to my students to be as accepting and welcoming as I can be so that we can do our best work together. The first time a parent encounters our school should never be a negative experience. You want to call this woman trashy? Because she wore something you wouldn't and was in the process of getting her hair done so covered her head? Knowing nothing else about her except she was trying to enroll her child in a school? That judgement says more about you than about this woman. |
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Post by Merge on Apr 25, 2019 0:04:42 GMT
Local education reporter points out this high school's academic performance (dismal) and mentions that perhaps national outrage would be better directed at the fact that these kids are not being well served by our education system.
Of course, it's entirely possible to be outraged at both the poor academic performance and the dress code.
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Post by Amelia Bedelia on Apr 25, 2019 0:37:49 GMT
In general, I think dress codes are a waste of time. They tend to have misogynistic undertones. To try to police adults is ridiculous. To suggest that parents always have to set the example of how to dress for a job interview (the lesson they said they wanted the children to learn) is ridiculous. The fact that they didn’t say no head coverings, but excluded specific head coverings is racist when the head coverings excluded apply almost exclusively to women of one hair type/race.
I get wanting to improve a school, but rather than trying to make such superficial changes and drive wedges between the community and the administration, making changes that will help the students might be better. Don’t tell me that a mom coming to the school with a scarf on her head to address a concern and be involved is the problem. Maybe the clothing choices of some of the parents reflect a lower SEC than most posters here, but what the school is doing is wrong. Lead by example. Dress professionally and maybe the people who meet with you will eventually step up their game and dress more professionally as well. But the idea that only the pretty, shiny parents are allowed to come to that school disenfranchises the students. How many parents won’t even bother trying now? How can they trust an administration who says how you look is more important than what you have to say, or more important than enrolling your child in school?
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