styxgirl
Pearl Clutcher
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Post by styxgirl on Sept 15, 2019 19:42:08 GMT
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!!
I think Cliff and Nicole just killed any change they had at a final two. It would have been guaranteed if they would have kept Tommy! (As long as tommy kept his word and there the HOH to them).
I am NOT looking forward to seeing the fight. Jackson is a total asshat and steamrolls over people in a disagreement. I’m sure it’s gonna be painful to watch.
UGH.
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Post by linhaz on Sept 16, 2019 19:02:06 GMT
I already did not like Michie but after last night's episode I despise him so. He tears seemed so fake and him crying out for his "momma" -- I don't know but it seemed he was seeking sympathy for all his bad behavior.
Also I was mad with Cliff, IMO his actions were right there with Michie, as far as misleading Nicole. I mean he is trying to WIN so I understand his motives BUT he is stringing Nicole along and she will be so disappointed after she sees this show. She will REGRET not keeping Tommy. And when he told her he already made a deal with Michie and gave him his word, "sorry Nicole I should have discussed it with you BUT I already gave him my word and I can't go back on it" Nicole's face, poor Nicole. She needs to go with her gut and stick to it.
And HOLLY, how could she give up an opportunity for HOH and a sure place in the FINAL 3. And Michie encouraging her to throw it b/c he knew he would be put up if she didn't.
Clearly the two that really want to win and are making the moves to get to the Final Two are Michie and Cliff. I wish the girls would act on their own behalf and realize what's going on! $500K is on the line girls WAKE UP.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 16, 2019 20:48:56 GMT
Nichole is so smart - she KNEW Jackson was making that stuff up about Tommy and even said how she could tell but she let Jackson and Cliff work her emotions until she gave in.
Jackson is a SNAKE and his crying was so fake. He will probably win now. Nichol is going to be so upset with herself when it is all over
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Post by mnmloveli on Sept 16, 2019 21:43:18 GMT
Holly Holly Holly ! How did she throw the HOH and ensure she would be on the block !!!! When you’re down to the final 4, all bets are off. I’m soooo mad at Nicole. Once Cliff told her he has a final 3 with Miche and will use the POV on him, Nicole should have immediately asked Cliff right then and there, who is your final 2 !!! If there was ANY delay in his answer, Nicole should have put Cliff on the block. Crazy crazy episode !
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valincal
Drama Llama
Southern Alberta
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Jun 27, 2014 2:21:22 GMT
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Post by valincal on Sept 16, 2019 22:52:49 GMT
Loved the look on Holly’s face when Michie was crying for his momma’s arms. “What am I, chopped liver?” 😄
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Post by disneypal on Sept 19, 2019 12:40:50 GMT
Poor, poor Cliff....he really thinks Jackson is going to keep his word and take him to the final 3. I feel bad for Cliff but at the same time, I believe he put himself in that situation. Nichole wanted to get rid of Holly and Cliff convinced her to keep Holly. If Tommy had been left in the house instead of Holly, perhaps Jackson would have kept his word and take Cliff with him to the final 3 but now...looks like Cliff in a goner.
Oh well...I am glad Nichole is still hanging in there. I believe Jackson will probably win the whole thing but I really am rooting for Nichole.
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styxgirl
Pearl Clutcher
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Jun 27, 2014 4:51:44 GMT
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Post by styxgirl on Sept 19, 2019 13:35:05 GMT
Poor, poor Cliff....he really thinks Jackson is going to keep his word and take him to the final 3. I feel bad for Cliff but at the same time, I believe he put himself in that situation. Nichole wanted to get rid of Holly and Cliff convinced her to keep Holly. If Tommy had been left in the house instead of Holly, perhaps Jackson would have kept his word and take Cliff with him to the final 3 but now...looks like Cliff in a goner. Oh well...I am glad Nichole is still hanging in there. I believe Jackson will probably win the whole thing but I really am rooting for Nichole. I think so too. I liked Cliff up until the last week. Every time they show the clip of Nicole weighing her options ... get rid of Tommy or break up a showmance she says, “Just saying it out loud, I know what I need to do” Listen to your gut Nicole!! You’re right!!’ Hate Michie. He's an asshat.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 19, 2019 14:41:16 GMT
Hate Michie. He's an asshat. He really is....he guilted Nichole and Cliff into keeping Holly saying "We had a final 4, you shook on it, you gave your word, how can you go back on your word" and now he is doing that - going against his word. His fake apology to Cliff's family was pathetic - because he doesn't mean it. I understand him taking Holly though I guess because he would have a better shot at winning against her than he would winning against Cliff (I think the whole house likes Cliff). Plus he probably figures if for some reason he doesn't win and Holly does, then she will give him some of her winnings.
I read somewhere online that Jackson was making fun on Nichole's family and said something to the effect that her family is going to look like a bunch of hillbillies sitting in the audience. " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/superangry.png">
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Post by just PEAchy on Sept 19, 2019 15:00:52 GMT
Watching Cliff last night was hard. He really believes Michie will take him. I’m not sure how he can be so delusional. I do feel sorry for him. Michie is an ass, if he makes it to F2 (I’m still hoping Nicole will evict him), I hope he gets Paul’d. I did feel sorry for Paul ( both times), but I’ll be so happy if it happens to Michie.
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Post by linhaz on Sept 19, 2019 15:02:41 GMT
Cliff is delusional if he thinks Michie is going to keep him.
Sad to say but it looks like it'll be a final two with Michie and Holly. Michie will be sure to win. Holly DID NOTHING to earn a win, she basically rode Michie's coat tail to the end. If it were between Michie and Nicole -- Nicole might have a chance. So it is CRITICAL Nicole wins the final competition to be HOH. If she wins, she'll take Holly and she will win over Holly. But if either Michie or Holly wins then its over for Nicole. I'm so rooting for Nicole.
Cliff's deals he was attempting to make were ridiculous, he was panicking and trying anything. And telling Michie he has a final two with Nicole -- WHY would you do that? It's time for Cliff to leave.
I am dying to see what's been going on in the Jury House.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 19, 2019 15:26:47 GMT
I am dying to see what's been going on in the Jury House Me too - sounds like Julie hinted that we will see what is going on a bit in there on Sunday's episode. I am curious to see if Christie told everyone that she knew Tommy before they went into the house.
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Post by jackie on Sept 19, 2019 15:36:47 GMT
Cliff has turned into a real disappointment. For such a smart guy who seemed to be playing a pretty decent game all along, he went full dum-dum here at the end.
To believe that Michi would actually take him to the finals is ludicrous. Michi has a full-on relationship with a Holly and they’ve had each other’s backs the entire game. Cliff hasn’t pissed off too many houseguests and could be very hard to beat (another strike against him), plus he offended Michi and made himself look like not a good ally when he told Michi that they might keep Tommy. The deal was already sealed who Michi would take, but that didn’t help. Cliff says that he believes Michi is a man of his word. Helllloooo, do you not think he gave his word to Holly too? I think that Cliff allowed his fear of how close Tommy and Nicole were to delude himself into believing that keeping Michi and Holly around was the right choice. It was a HORRIBLE choice Cliff!! Keeping a romance in who you should know will vote together over a lone wolf like a Tommy who will probably favor your alliance member over you is just not smart. Not to mention, Holly and Michi are very good at challenges, much more so than Tommy. Why would you ever vote out the non-winning singlet over the challenge beast couple?
Honestly, I will not feel sad to see Cliff go (other than the damage it causes for Nicole). He deserves to leave. I’m just angry that he’s dragging Nicole into his mistake. And I don’t really blame Nicole. If it were up to her, she would have kept Tommy. But if she couldn’t get Cliff on board with that, her vote is no good. The best she could is force a tie which Michi would break to vote out Tommy and then everyone left in the house will be unhappy with her for going against them. She should be royally pissed at Cliff.
And that veto comp, I really wanted Nicole to win. It seemed like she did well but I KNEW as soon as they kept stressing how bad Michi did that he was actually going to win it.
And I’m with you guys, the momma comments are a bit too much. I mean I love a guy who loves his mom, but it’s getting creepy. I swear I can hear the Psycho music playing in the background. Blech! Run Holly, even if he wins half a mil (which I’m sure he will).
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Post by kmcginn on Sept 19, 2019 16:35:41 GMT
Michie is so fake and is an asshole.
The biggest mistake Cliff made was telling Holly and Jackson they were thinking of keeping Tommy. They should have just acted like the deal with them was still good - loose lips and all! He should have listened to Nicole and kept Tommy. At least he's more trust-worthy I think.
I liked Cliff but he was stupid and now he needs to go. He's delusional if he thinks Michie would take him to final 2 over Holly!
I would love to see Nicole walk away with a win, but it's not looking hopeful!
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MorningPerson
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,503
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Jul 4, 2014 21:35:44 GMT
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Post by MorningPerson on Sept 19, 2019 16:50:37 GMT
Watching Cliff last night was hard. He really believes Michie will take him. I’m not sure how he can be so delusional. I do feel sorry for him. Michie is an ass, if he makes it to F2 (I’m still hoping Nicole will evict him), I hope he gets Paul’d. I did feel sorry for Paul ( both times), but I’ll be so happy if it happens to Michie. Refresh my memory please - what happened with Paul?
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Post by mnmloveli on Sept 19, 2019 17:02:15 GMT
I think we can all agree, the final three will be Miche, Holly & Nicole. I REALLY hope Nicole can pull this out ! She has come on strong in the past few weeks BUT somehow she's listening to Cliff a little too much !
Nicole follows Cliff (even though she voices the right moves to make) Cliff's trying to hang on to Nicole & Miche. Holly follows Miche. Miche follows NO ONE !!!!!
For this reason, I think Miche will win against anyone. If it's Holly's or Nicole's decision who to take, they better not take Miche or they will be handing him the win!
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Post by just PEAchy on Sept 19, 2019 17:13:54 GMT
Watching Cliff last night was hard. He really believes Michie will take him. I’m not sure how he can be so delusional. I do feel sorry for him. Michie is an ass, if he makes it to F2 (I’m still hoping Nicole will evict him), I hope he gets Paul’d. I did feel sorry for Paul ( both times), but I’ll be so happy if it happens to Michie. Refresh my memory please - what happened with Paul? Paul was F2 for two seasons and even though he had the best game play, a bitter jury didn’t give it to him. At least, that was what I thought. Some say he deserved to lose.
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gina
Pearl Clutcher
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Jun 26, 2014 1:59:16 GMT
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Post by gina on Sept 19, 2019 17:51:14 GMT
I am SO READY for Cliff to get kicked off tonight! He's pissing me of the past week. How delusional to think Michie will take him instead of Holly. I am almost embarrassed watching him. And for the love of all things holy, STOP TALKING WITH YOUR HANDS! I'm just tired of seeing his diary room interviews and listening to how stupid he sounds. Bye bye Cliff.
I really would love to see Nicole win the final HOH. OMG it would be epic!!!!! If not, she's in trouble. I really would like to see her win out of all who are left.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 19, 2019 19:01:20 GMT
Haha gina - Cliff ALWAYS uses his hands in the same pose when he is talking...kind of like he is trying to explain something.. Sounds like we all agree that Cliff deserves to go after his poor choices of kind of forcing Nichole's hand to keep Holly last week. The best we can hope for is for Nichole to win HOH so she can choose who goes to the final 2 and I think she is smart enough (Gosh, I HOPE she is) that she would take Holly over Jackson. Like you said jackie - Nichole did great on the Veto comp but since they kept showing Jackson over and over saying how poorly he did, I just knew he won it - dog gone! The sad thing is...if she had won Veto, Cliff already told her that he was going to take Jackson to the Final 3 so he'd been in the Final 3 anyway. When Cliff sees the shows after it is all done, I hope he realizes some of the dumb moves he made right here at the end - I just want to shake him. I bet his family is yelling at him through the TV. I just hope against all hope that Nichole wins the final HOH!!
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Sept 19, 2019 19:18:20 GMT
I'm with you guys and really hope Nicole can pull this off!! What I really want to see is her win, then Jackson and Holly will have to fight for themselves to get Nicole to take them. I think that would be awesome, LOL!!!
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Post by christine58 on Sept 19, 2019 20:26:59 GMT
I'm with you guys and really hope Nicole can pull this off!! What I really want to see is her win, then Jackson and Holly will have to fight for themselves to get Nicole to take them. I think that would be awesome, LOL!!! So Veto ceremony is tonight...then round 1 of HOH???
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Post by disneypal on Sept 19, 2019 20:28:25 GMT
So Veto ceremony is tonight...then round 1 of HOH??? I believe so
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Post by linhaz on Sept 19, 2019 20:30:27 GMT
I'm with you guys and really hope Nicole can pull this off!! What I really want to see is her win, then Jackson and Holly will have to fight for themselves to get Nicole to take them. I think that would be awesome, LOL!!! Yes the only chance Nicole has to win everything is to win this HOH. She can definitely win the 1/2 Million if she takes Holly and maybe possibly over Michie if the jury is bitter about how Michie played the game. I mean Holly threw the HOH competition that would have ensured her a Top 3 place to Nicole -- that alone should ensure no one on the jury would vote for Holly!! Michie was a competition beast but he belittled quite a few people in the house. And if Tommy tells the jury how Michie treated him and told a BOLD FACE OUT AND DIRTY LIE about him this might sway the jury to vote for Nicole should he be up against her. But there is no way Nicole would take Michie. NO WAY. And no way that either Holly or Michie would take Nicole.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Sept 19, 2019 21:19:34 GMT
And Cliff was SO DUMB falling for Jacksons BS! All Cliff had to do was sit and think about how hard Jackson was fighting with Nicole and Cliff to keep Holly over Tommy. His fighting so hard made it obvious Jackson is going to keep Holly until the very end and not Cliff. Or maybe it's just obvious to us that are looking in? But it seems if Jackson was planning to take Cliff, Jackson would of taken the opportunity to get Holly out when they had it. Why didn't Cliff see that and call him out on it? Planning to take me (Cliff), then why keep Holly around?
I just don't see what Cliff sees in Jackson that makes him think he's telling the truth. Cliff is going to be really upset with himself when he goes back and watches what Jackson really was thinking.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 20, 2019 12:45:38 GMT
We all knew it was coming. I like Nicole's Diary Room session. She sarcastically called him "Mr Integrity" and said "Michie wants me to do him a favor and not tell Cliff and I say Michie do me a favor and go f*** yourself" First of all, she wasn't buying Jackson's crap in the HOH room when he was saying "I decided since y'all weren't loyal last week and was going to keep Tommy that I should keep Holly" - Nichole was like "Don't use that excuse" - he was trying to play it like "I'm not using it as an excuse, that is when I decided" - she wasn't buying it at all. He kept trying to say it wasn't his master plan and it was - all along - she is no fool!! I am glad she told Cliff - why wouldn't she? I hope she beats him - please, please let her beat him!!! I want Nichole and Holly in the finale 2 just because he is such a snake in the grass. The sad thing is that I think Holly is so brainwashed by him, that she would give up her chance at the finale 2 so he could be in it (if it came down to it) Jackson's face was priceless when Cliff was telling him that once he is in the jury house, he is going to sway the jurors to vote against him and that if Holly was in the jury house, she'd convince them to vote for him to win. Jackson was sitting there looking like "uh, I never thought of that" so in his eviction speech and everything else he said, he was trying to play all nice to Cliff and trying to convince Cliff what a "loyal" game that he (Jackson) has played. Even in his goodbye message to Cliff, he was trying to make Cliff feel guilty and telling Cliff he should keep his word. So...CLIFF should keep HIS word to you but Jackson doesn't have to keep his word to Cliff. I hope Cliff gets in there and convinces them all vote against him in the final 2.
Usually, I am not this invested in the final outcome - of course I always know who want I want to win but I am usually indifferent to who wins, but this year, I want ANYBODY to win except for Jackson.
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Post by linhaz on Sept 23, 2019 16:02:39 GMT
Last night was a recap of each of the final 3's season overall. Hate to say it but Michie has done exceptionally well compared to Holly for sure and even Nicole.
I was disappointed Michie once again won the first challenge. Holly was a close second and poor Nicole -- even though puzzles are her strength the rope course wasn't her thing. I hope she can win Holly on the next challenge otherwise her season is over.
Did you like how Michie was trying to convince Nicole no one would vote for him in the house b/c he has made so many enemies. How gullible does he think she is... but she didn't put him up over Tommy so I guess somewhat gullible.... I liked how the Top 3 finishers KC, Tyler and JC from last season each chose a different person to win this year.
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Post by disneypal on Sept 23, 2019 16:42:05 GMT
I didn't see the end last night because I recorded it and 60 Minutes ran over so I didn't know who won the first part - I was hoping it was posted here - thanks! I am not surprised he won the first challenge.
He thinks she is a fool and he can manipulate her like he does everyone else. He hasn't really done that with her but Cliff is the one that convinced her to vote out Tommy - she should have listened to her gut but I guess it is too late for that.
I thought it was interesting too that the top 3 from last year all picked different ones to win this year. I really think Jackson is going to win, but I just don't want him too.
He was going on in the DR about how he hopes he did his family proud and such....I would so not be proud of the way he treats people, if I was his family. I'm sure they see nothing wrong with how he treat people because (a) they are use to his ways (b) they love him and want him to win and (c) they would defend him saying 'it's a game' I am sure he can totally live with himself for being so vile to people. He also said "It has always been a dream of mine - this is a dream come true, etc, etc" - well it is a dream for everyone that is on BB - otherwise, they wouldn't be there.
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Post by jackie on Sept 26, 2019 3:50:46 GMT
What, no posts since the finale?
I thought Nicole didn’t stand a chance, but I was rooting for her anyway. No dice. I thought they both did fine from what I can remember with their questions and speeches. After the voting you could see that Michi really had the wind taken out of his sails with the racist comments. His face was grim, no more smiling, and he had two big redsplothes on his cheeks that kept growing. I’m honestly not even sure what they’re talking about. I think he’s an arrogant jerk with some mommy issues, but I’m not sure I witnessed racism. What did I miss?
I loved Nicole’s talk with Julie after she was evicted, I thought it was adorable how she got emotional when she spotted her family. I really wanted her to win America’s favorite but I was sure it would be Cliff. So glad she got it.
Oh, and how funny was it how quickly Nick dumped Isabella for Kat. That was nuts.
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Post by mnmloveli on Sept 26, 2019 5:06:09 GMT
What, no posts since the finale? I thought Nicole didn’t stand a chance, but I was rooting for her anyway. No dice. I thought they both did fine from what I can remember with their questions and speeches. After the voting you could see that Michi really had the wind taken out of his sails with the racist comments. His face was grim, no more smiling, and he had two big redsplothes on his cheeks that kept growing. I’m honestly not even sure what they’re talking about. I think he’s an arrogant jerk with some mommy issues, but I’m not sure I witnessed racism. What did I miss? I loved Nicole’s talk with Julie after she was evicted, I thought it was adorable how she got emotional when she spotted her family. I really wanted her to win America’s favorite but I was sure it would be Cliff. So glad she got it. Oh, and how funny was it how quickly Nick dumped Isabella for Kat. That was nuts. I think people are not commenting on the finale because of the time zones. Never quite sure when everyone has seen it. I heard a lot of people were taping it because they were already disappointed with the possible winner. I think the comments that upset Miche happened were aired on the “After Dark” show. He was still upset at the very end hugging his parents. I don’t think his “confetti moment” was what he anticipated. I totally forgot about Nick & Isabella relationship ! I felt bad for her. So happy for Nicole winning fan favorite. I think she was very surprised. She lives about 10 minutes from me. I’m planning on sending her a card since she was an enjoyable member of this cast who I enjoyed watching. She definitely would have enjoyed the confetti more than Miche !!
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valincal
Drama Llama
Southern Alberta
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Jun 27, 2014 2:21:22 GMT
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Post by valincal on Sept 26, 2019 5:57:42 GMT
Oops, accidentally spoiled it for myself but no surprises! I just watched them walk out and Michie didn’t smile once! He is pissed. 😬
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Post by disneypal on Sept 26, 2019 10:09:35 GMT
I wasn’t surprised at all that Jackson won but I was disappointed I never saw him as racist and he really did seem surprised that he was perceived that way. I agree with Tommy though about the bad way he treated some of the women because I did see some of that on After Dark. I agree that his confetti moment wasn’t what he expected it was going to be. He said he did it for his family (don’t most do it for that reason) and he hopes his folks are proud of him. Personally, I hope they tell him that they were disappointed by some of his actions. I also noticed how red his cheeks were and never saw them like that before-maybe it happens when he is nervous. I voted for Nichole 10 times every day so was happy she won America’s favorite-I was hoping she, Cliff or Sam would win that. She is so genuine-I teared up with her when she spotted her family.
Bella is better off without Nick - he isn't a very likable person and obviously isn't ready for a relationship.
Another season in the bag - I enjoyed discussing it with all of you!
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