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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 19, 2019 14:10:27 GMT
I am so disgusted with that show that I didn't even watch last night. I read that Cliff came back and also won HOH. If he puts up the Jacks I may watch again. The whole show has degraded to a really scummy point.
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Post by hutchfan on Jul 19, 2019 15:11:53 GMT
Yeah! So glad to hear Cliff won HOH! I bet Christie and Jack use their powers this week.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 19, 2019 15:58:36 GMT
I am so disgusted with that show that I didn't even watch last night. I read that Cliff came back and also won HOH. If he puts up the Jacks I may watch again. The whole show has degraded to a really scummy point. What, weren't Gr8ful H9ful supposed to win HOH all season? Thanks for the spoiler thread, gina. I didn't watch last night, but can't completely walk away, yet. This could finally get interesting.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 19, 2019 16:22:42 GMT
I am so disgusted with that show that I didn't even watch last night. I read that Cliff came back and also won HOH. If he puts up the Jacks I may watch again. The whole show has degraded to a really scummy point. What, weren't Gr8ful H9ful supposed to win HOH all season? Thanks for the spoiler thread, gina . I didn't watch last night, but can't completely walk away, yet. This could finally get interesting. Same. Right now I can't stand to watch it so I read about it. I may come back to it if Jack gets what he deserves.
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Post by gina on Jul 19, 2019 16:31:59 GMT
Some live feed re-cap from last night:7:03 AM PT Cliff is restless in bed. Been up to the restroom twice, and at one point while in bed exclaimed an expletive in his frustration at not being able to get and stay asleep. 6:47 AM PT Cliff gets up to use restroom then back to bed says "Oh F***. Back to sleep!" 5:56 AM PT Looks & sounds like all the HGs may be snuggled in their beds snoozing. 5:54 AM PT Jackson tops off his bedtime routine by taking a swig of mouthwash for gargling following brushing his teeth. 4:54 AM PT Finally alone in his HoH BR, Cliff puts on his headphones and dances to the music holding his wife's letter. Then plops down on his bed and then up again for more dancing. 4:35 AM PT Jess says enjoy your room and Orwell. Cliff says we are survivors. The girls exit the HOH. 4:20 AM PT Jess says she will honor cliffs HOH. Jess says this is this first time she has been able to freely to talk game. 4:19 AM PT Cliff says Ovi did nothing to deserve being backdoored. Jess says Jack? Ovi would not have gone up if it were not for Jacks pushing Kemi. 4:17 AM PT Kat said why was I seen at the bottom ? Who decided that? Kat says she is in a showmance with Brett. 4:15 AM PT What will the alliance name be? Kat says this is her first alliance. Cliff says we will think about that later. Cliff says we have not been treated well and don't owe anyone anything. Cliff says I trust you to have my back , I don't trust them. 4:10 AM PT Cliff says if we can just knock down one person. Cliff says we have been kicked around enough. 4:08 AM PT Nicole finally joins the “outcast” group in HOH 4:07 AM PT Jess says Christie would vote Jack out over Tommy. Nicole enters HOH. Cliff says welcome to the outcasts. Cliff says he will not target anyone who has been on the block. Not the expendables. 4:04 AM PT Kat says Tommy will get far in the game. Cliff agrees. Jess said it would be hard to get the votes for Tommy. Jess says Jack vs Tommy , Jack would go. 4:02 AM PT Cliff says he is looking at Christie Tommy, Jack and Sis. Kat says Sis, she always says she is bored and wants to go home. Jess says you can't pin Sis. 3:59 AM PT Jess says Jack is too much of an alpha male to listen to a female. He acts like he was a savior that he had to win HOH to save his group. Cliff says Jack's name is on his list. 3:56 AM PT Jess says Jackson is a master manipulator. He had so many final 2's. He even had Ovi in a trance. 3:53 AM PT Cliff says Christie told him about her power as a threat. 3:52 AM PT Kat says watch for Nicole because the 6 are telling Nicole they saved her and she is eating it up. 3:51 AM PT Kat says if Bella and Nick won't target Cliff if they win HOH and they are alone. Cliff said that is what he is thinking. Cliff says I need the support of all of us that have been treated as expendables. 3:49 AM PT Cliff asks Kat and Jess what they think of nick. Cliff does not trust Bella. Jess and Kat raise concerns about Nick. 3:44 AM PT Jess tells Cliff that Jack Jackson and Bella had a final 3. 3:42 AM PT Kat says she was going to be the replacement if she did not win the veto. Cliff goes to use the bathroom. Jess says Holly is being feed information. Jess thinks Jack plays up Christies paranoia. 3:40 AM PT Cliff says he will take the risk. He is not scared. He does not want them to be picked off like siting ducks and have the 6 left at the end. 3:39 AM PT Cliff says to Kat and Jess he has no plans to put either of you up. He says there are powers so he does not know what will happen.
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Post by gina on Jul 19, 2019 23:11:33 GMT
Feeds are down for noms!!!
Tommy pitched to Cliff putting up "1 and 1" meaning, one from the Six Shooters and one from Sam/Nick/Bella.
Feeds are saying there's a 95% Jack is up.... hoping the other is Jackson.
We shall see shortly!
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 19, 2019 23:23:08 GMT
Fingers crossed that Jack is up. I think the other will be female, either Analyse or Christie.
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Post by Leone on Jul 19, 2019 23:49:50 GMT
Jack and Jackson nominated!
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 19, 2019 23:54:53 GMT
Jack and Jackson nominated! Whooo-hooo!!!!
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 20, 2019 0:06:00 GMT
ack and Jackson nominated! HA!!!! priceless!!
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 20, 2019 0:37:46 GMT
Thank goodness. Cliff has some big ol' balls. Go Cliff.
I think I'll watch the next show.
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Post by hutchfan on Jul 20, 2019 1:22:41 GMT
Way to go Cliff! But I am sure powers will be used.
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Post by twistedscissors on Jul 20, 2019 1:59:35 GMT
Go Cliff! Ready for Jack to be gone!
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 20, 2019 2:22:14 GMT
Way to go Cliff! But I am sure powers will be used. I don't think Jack's power is that great and hope he does use it to get it out of the game. It would be a beautiful thing if whoever wins the veto leaves the noms as they are. I know they expect Christie to let them use her Veto, but I really hope she hangs onto it for herself. The more they mansplain and pressure her, the less likely it is she will do want they want.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 20, 2019 2:23:53 GMT
How were the Have Nots picked?
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 20, 2019 2:25:52 GMT
Way to go Cliff! But I am sure powers will be used. I don't think Jack's power is that great and hope he does use it to get it out of the game. It would be a beautiful thing if whoever wins the veto leaves the noms as they are. I know they expect Christie to let them use her Veto, but I really hope she hangs onto it for herself. The more they mansplain and pressure her, the less likely it is she will do want they want. Ugh. Jack is a mansplainer, isn’t he? I would have such a hard time not screaming STFU every time he opened his cocky mouth. That whole exchange with Kemi over her shaker bottle in the fridge make me want to smack the smug right out of him. He needs to go.
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Post by gina on Jul 20, 2019 3:06:28 GMT
Yessss! So happy about Jack/Jackson!! As of Friday 7/19: HOH: Cliff Have Nots: Jackson, Tommy, Christie, Kathryn NOM: Jack + JacksonLive feed re-caps from this evening:
7:26 PM PT Cliff is making something with his cereal boxes on big dining table (he must have found them where Jack threw them out). 6:58 PM PT Christie and Tommy remake their have nots beds to make a large double bed that they are obsessed over. 6:34 PM PT Tommy/Jess/Christie still talking in camp comeback room. Tommy still feeling emotional (since he was crying earlier when Jack was nominated) tells Christie & Jess that this whole thing doesn't seem right to him. Christie says he had to do what he had to do. Tommy says its still not right. Says he is disappointment re: because Jack is on the block. 6:28 PM PT Jackson/Holly moving under the covers (looked like they were doing something under there (possibly having sex) while Jackson was talking to Jack who was on the other bed. After few more secs of movement while talking - cam switched to Cliff upstairs. 6:27 PM PT Christie is upset at Jackson for trying to leverage her power. She doesn't need to be mansplained to. 5:56 PM PT Nick keeps saying line is drawn. If Jackson or Holly wins veto next week then he will put Analyse up even though he doesn't want to. He says Tommy is an option too. 5:55 PM PT Nick says if he wins HOH that he'll put Michie/Holly up. If one of them wins veto then it has to be one of ppl left. Sam says put one of our side up (meaning expendables). Nick chimes in saying they f**ked us already so they are not with us. Sam says yeah. 5:53 PM PT Nick says he just lied to Analyse (AKA Sis) for the first time, that Sis was worried Bella will put her up and he told her no, look in his eyes, Bella will not put you (Sis) up. Bella says he shouldn't talk game to her and Nick says he doesn't. Nick says he told Sis he'd use the veto on Jack/Jackson if he won, and Bella says Jack say through Nick in the bedroom earlier when Nick tried to say they were all still together. 5:53 PM PT Nick says if he wins POV that he is not using it. He says that a line was drawn. 5:51 PM PT Bella says she only trusts Nick and Sam and if they get f'd over by Analyse then she'll just laugh. 5:51 PM PT Sam/Nick/Bella saying they are stronger than them. Nick says if he wins next week then he will target one of them. Nick/Sam say they can get Nicole. Bella says BUT we can't talk game with Nicole and Nick says he knows. Jess interrupts about food shes making and asks Bella how she wants the bread. 5:51 PM PT Nick says he gets what Bella is saying and she says Sis is like Christie who can bounce back and forth between sides. Nick says you have to win too much (to be in control) so it helps to have some people on your side. That he doesn't trust Christie and thinks she'd still use her power this week, even though she said she wouldn't. 5:49 PM PT Nick and Sam discuss they have to pull in Jess and Kat. 5:49 PM PT Bella tells Sam she already told Nick that if Jack and then Christie has to go for Sis to be on their side, that it will take that many steps, then that person is not on their side. 5:48 PM PT Bella comes in and asks Nick what type of cheese he wants for his sandwich. She then asks Sam if he wants one. Then she asks Nick what's wrong, is he mad at Bella for saying to get rid of his friend Sis. He says Sis isn't bad for his game, and Sis would flip. 5:47 PM PT Sam says he told Cliff to pick him for veto and he won't use it. Sam says they need to split the Jack/Jackson pair and Nick says Jack must go. 5:45 PM PT Nick/Sam in boat room. Nick says if he wins HOH next week, he'd nominate Jackson and Holly, and he knows Holly would be safe. 5:45 PM PT Tommy asks what approach they should take with Cliff. Christie says to lay low as the less they say - the better at this point. 5:44 PM PT The 6 are more subdued today since both of them are on the block. Jack says well - can we get to tomorrow (re: POV) 5:42 PM PT Tommy says there's a reason Christie won her power, there's a reason two of them are on the block. Jackson chimes in b/c he volunteered. Tommy continues that they will win the veto, use Christie's power, and nom Nick/Bella/Sam. Then they can rely on Nicole and Kat to vote with them to get the other person out of the house. 5:42 PM PT Jackson was also telling them he volunteered to go up to keep the people in their alliance safe. Jack also said he is not manifesting it but he misses his family, his dog and wouldn't really mind. Says he is tired so this may be a sign. Says he did what he was supposed to do and got his team to the next step. 5:41 PM PT Christie says they didn't save Nicole b/c they trust her, it's b/c Cliff was a bigger target. 5:41 PM PT Christie is explaining to them now that she wont use her power because she could go up as replacement even though she has the power. She says their best bet is to win the veto. 5:40 PM PT Analyse joins. Christie says one of them 6 need to win veto. She won't use her power unless one of them win. 5:38 PM PT Six Shooters (minus Analyse) in bedroom. Jackson says this was a bad move by Cliff. Christie says she understands and it was a smart move, they are just pissed b/c it's their side. Jackson says he's not pissed. He says this is why he came 5:36PM PT Jack throwing away all of Cliff's cereal boxes. I believe he was keeping those to make something for his wife. 5:34PM PT Holly says she doesn't want Jack to go home but she really doesn't want Jackson to leave and she says she'd be bored the next two months if he left. Jackson says 'let's go' and they head to the kitchen. 5:34PM PT Jackson says Cliff drew a line and Jackson will finish the picture. Says if he wanted safety, he would have won HOH. Holly says she may be naive but she believes Cliff wants to work with them and Jackson says he does. Holly says they need to make a more solid. 5:32PM PT Jackson says he's tired of sitting there and letting other people make the decisions. 5:31PM PT Holly/Jackson cuddling in bathroom. Holly says he's not going anywhere. Jackson says he volunteered to be a pawn b/c he wants to play Big Brother and be bold and make moves. Says he wants to play and gamble and have fun, not float. 5:30PM PT Jack says if Nick/Bella/Sam are picked for veto, he'll use his power to redraw. Christie says that will draw a line between then and Jack says he doesn't give an F. 5:28PM PT Christie says Jackson is trying to play the hero, how Jackson ran up to tell Cliff first about Christie's power. Christie says Jackson is too confident and comfortable. It seems Jackson volunteered as a pawn when he was certain Cliff would nominate one person from each side. Christie says this, and repeats that Cliff could have put her up instead, and with her power, if she won veto, everything is in her hands. 5:25PM PT Christie and Jack in bedroom. Christie asks by Jackson volunteered to go on the block, at that rate, Cliff could have put Christie up. Jack says Jackson wanted to go up as a pawn that Cliff would feel comfortable with, that they talked in length about. Jack tells Christie if he wins HOH next week he won't put up Cliff. Christie agrees they'll still target Nick/Bella. 5:23PM PT Jackson/Holly laying together in bathroom. Holly says she briefly talked to Cliff after the nom ceremony and he apologized and said it was his best game move, that he would like to work with them. 5:20PM PT Christie, Jack, Nick, Bella in bedroom. Christie jokes about using her power and then being put on the block. She says that's why if she doesn't win it herself, she'd have to completely trust the POV holder to use her power.
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Post by Leone on Jul 20, 2019 14:05:47 GMT
I don’t think Jack’s power is worth much, and Christie would be dumb not to save it for herself.
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 20, 2019 22:38:57 GMT
Veto players have been drawn and Jack used his power when he wasn’t happy with the initial results.
Original draw was Holly, Jessica, and Sam. The second draw was Analyse, Kat, and Sam.
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Post by Leone on Jul 20, 2019 23:25:30 GMT
Jackson won the veto.
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Post by gina on Jul 21, 2019 0:51:33 GMT
Feeds were down for 3 hours for the Veto.
5:28 PM PT Sam & Analyse join the others in HN room (Tommy, Christie, Jess & Kat) and game talk ends.
5:27 PM PT Tommy: if u use the power, you are saving an ally and getting out a person trying to target you so it is for you still. Christie: I know. (Jess and Kat are in HN room with Tommy & Christie)
5:00 PM PT Few mins ago, Jack was confirming from Kat that she will vote out Bella & she said yes. Kat tells Jack/Analyse that she was in that room thinking of all the things Bella has done to piss her off so she wanted to win it.
4:57 PM PT Christie is talking to Tommy about the power. She is saying she needs to talk to Cliff and see what he wants to do first. She is asking if they actually have her back if she uses power bc now she can't float anymore and have to choose a side. Tommy tells her she's in an unfortunate position bc everyone knows she has the power.
4:35 PM PT Holly says game wise, Nick should go first. Kat tells Holly to talk to Christie and Holly says it will be Jackson's decision. Holly says Nick is close to Sam, and Cliff wants to work with Nick, not Bella. Bella is already self-destructing. Kat says to talk to Jackson.
4:34 PM PT Kat says this was the best-case scenario.
4:33 PM PT Kat says 'F her!' about Bella.
4:33 PM PT Holly says Jess was bothering her the whole lockdown, she wouldn't shut up.
4:32 PM PT Kat and Holly in SR. They are both so happy for Jackson. Kat says she's voting her a** out (Bella). Holly thinks Nick should go up. She tells Kat to stay on the other side, pretending to be with Cliff's side.
4:31 PM PT Jackson just told Christie he knew he will win this morning when he woke up with no sleep and food.
4:23 PM PT Jack congratulates Jackson and says he came in dead last. Jack says he needs to be nice for votes and Jackson says no, Bella is going on the block.
4:23 PM PT Jackson won the veto as the HGs gathered around in the living room and he is giving a long story of how he played the veto.
4:21 PM PT Jackson is now wearing the veto.
4:21 PM PT Feeds back. Jackson is explaining how he did the competition. Everyone is amazed. (Sounds like he may have won.)
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Post by gina on Jul 21, 2019 0:54:30 GMT
"Lots of pressure on this one and easily the biggest Veto event of the season so far. Cliff and most HGs want Jack out but it’s never that simple thanks to the Camp Comeback powers. At the player draw this morning Jack put his power into play and forced a redraw which undid the first round with Holly, Jessica, and Sam. The second draw gave us Analyse, Kat, and Sam instead".
"Jackson wasn’t the target and now Jack will be left on the Block and since Jack holds the medallion Christie may want to use her power as well to let Jackson name the renom. That’ll be Bella if it happens. If Bella is up will the house vote out Jack or Bella? We may find out come Monday for the meeting and Thursday for the vote!"
"Jackson is obviously going to use the PoV on himself come Monday so let’s wait and see what happens with Christie’s power and the inevitable renom. Will Jackson or Cliff be making that choice? Watch for the Veto meeting spoilers on Monday for those results."source
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2019 18:56:14 GMT
So the jackson with that power gets to name who goes up? that doesn't seem fair to the HOH??
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 21, 2019 19:57:51 GMT
So the jackson with that power gets to name who goes up? that doesn't seem fair to the HOH?? Jackson doesn’t have that power, his power was to redraw the names for the veto players. The girl has the diamond power of veto, she will get to pull someone down and name the replacement. It totally sucks, but it is what it is. That is why it is the diamond power, it is more powerful then the golden veto. Hopefully she won’t use it since it doesn’t save her. I think the info posted just means she will let him decide who goes up. I hope she saves it for herself.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 21, 2019 20:03:41 GMT
oooh, yea. gotcha
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Post by gina on Jul 21, 2019 20:33:01 GMT
Christie is the girl with the Diamond Power of Veto. Some live feed re-caps from today:1:28 PM PT Tommy telling Cliff that Jack is a great person. He is telling Cliff that he will honor his word for not putting him up for whatever number of weeks he decides. 1:21 PM PT Tommy talking to Cliff. Tommy telling Cliff it was an 8 and now its a 6 since they left. Tommy saying hes not staying with the 6 the whole game. Cliff saying Bella would be voted out this week. Cliff worried he will be at the bottom if he does this. 1:11 PM PT Christie talking with Kathryn and Jessica. She is saying Bella is toxic and she cannot go to jury. Christie is telling them the 6 was never a thing. It was an 8 with Nick and Bella. Now telling about Cliff convo. Jack enters room. Christie telling them she does not want to go against Cliff. Christie is saying Bella is the poison that corrupts Nick. Christie has not made a decision in what she wants to do with the power. Christie is saying she wants to get out someone who is coming after her (Bella). 12:25 PM PT Cliff- "If Bella is voted out it's a numbers thing." Nicole- "That is what I was thinking." Nicole and Cliff think Christie should keep power since its good for 2 more weeks.Cliff to Nicole- I trust your opinion. 12:19 PM PT Cliff and Nicole going over votes for Bella vs Jack - Nick, Sam, you, Jess, and if Kat is not with us that is not enough to get Jack out. Nicole- damn. Both do not want Christie to use power. 12:12 PM PT Cliff talking to Nicole. He wants to consult with her. He's not sure if he should put up Bella or jump ship and put up one of the others. 11:51 AM PT Tommy talking to Alalyse. Saying they have to win next week. Saying it's a good thing they are not winning competitions. Tommy tells her if he wins HOH he would put up Sam and Nicole next week because they are floaters and he doesn't know where they stand. Note from Kemi regarding this season:
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Post by krcrafts on Jul 21, 2019 22:11:24 GMT
Kemi sounds like a classy young lady.
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Post by Leone on Jul 22, 2019 20:31:56 GMT
Jackson took himself down and Cliff put up Bella but Christie did Not use her power so Jack is still on the block. So...it could easily be a 5-5 tie with Cliff having to vote...he wants Jack out.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 22, 2019 20:43:43 GMT
Mon 1:15 PM PT Boat Room group counting votes trying to find some way to flip the vote. Cliff says if its a tie, he will "do what needs to be done" (ed. presumably vote out Jack) NT - forsooth Mon 1:14 PM PT Conversation between Cliff, Sam, and Bella in Boat Room confirms that Christie didn't use Diamond Power NT - forsooth Mon 1:12 PM PT Kat and Holly commiserating in RV over Jackson being a "douche". NT - forsooth Mon 1:11 PM PT Jackson used Veto on himself. Bella up as replacement. Unclear if Christie activated the Diamond Power (ed. Highly unlikely though) NT - forsooth Mon 1:09 PM PT And BELLA is on the block (as Cliff planned with the big alliance of 6) NT - lambily4life Mon 1:06 PM PT Feed return. Lots of hugging in Living Room NT - forsooth Mon 12:36 PM PT While Nick/Cliff were talking bf feeds went out - Nick was trying to explain to Cliff that if Christie doesn't use power & still puts Bella up - that they are f*cked. Cliff agreeing. Nick says theres no point to watch the show anymore if you are a live feeder. - lambily4life Nick tells live feeders to just turn it off. Nick says Jack has won Big Brother 21. He says this is like Big Brother 19 all over again and its so stupid. Cliff says he knows but he is not trying to break his word this early in the game. Nick trying to explain to him to at least make Christie use her power bc if not - they are screwed. Cliff legitimately agreeing but shooting everything down that Nick was saying.
Afterwards - Nick/Sam talked. Nick tells Sam this is BB 19 all over again. Sam said part of him wants to believe that he is playing them and wants to shock them. Nick says he doesn't think so. Nick tells Sam its just both of them now because they got no-one else.
Nick tells Sam that he will put up Christie/Tommy next week if he wins. He says he will clap and say "Congrats. You just let Jack win Big Brother 21. Guess what - i will help him too".
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Post by gina on Jul 22, 2019 22:29:35 GMT
Going to be an interesting Thursday night!!!
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