Is there no thread about the recent immigration raids?

I was reading about it, looking to see if the owners/managers would also be arrested, because the reports from ICE were stating that they had insider help, and that someone within at least one of the companies was taking $500-$800 per person for them to get jobs (as a fee I assume?)

Other articles have stated that the likelihood of the owners/managers being charged are nil. Apparently it hasn’t happened in a long long time.

Here’s what’s going to happen as a result of these ICE raids:

1. Employers now have 680 less workers, doing jobs that most don’t want (so it’s bullshit that immigrants are taking away jobs), these employers are going to either have to pay those that are left overtime, struggle getting product out, or close, leading to...

2. Poultry and egg prices are going to go up. The “affordable” meat is not going to be affordable anymore, eggs are going to be $$$ higher.

3. All these children left behind. Neighbors, churches, other aid trying to help them, food, clothing, emotionally, educationally. ICE never NEVER had any plan on what to do with the children of these 680 people. This administration is the party of lying bullshit that they care about lives—once they are born, they don’t give a fuck—leave them stranded in the streets, let them get murdered by gunfire. Republicans suck. MAGA people aren’t taking care of them.

4. Landlords. They can kiss their rent goodbye. For this many to be removed from society (their little towns) is going to cause the landlords (and banks if they had loans on homes, cars, etc.) to take a hit. All of a sudden, there will be lots of empty houses/apartments in already depressed areas. Who will fill all those empty homes now?

5. The burden that these raids put on others in the community, depleting resources (food banks, churches, etc) to care for those children who were left behind.

6. The USA is looking pretty crappy in terms of inhumane treatment of human life, ICE raids, mass killings where those who can do something about it refuse to, a potus that’s a fucking idiot, the ugly nasty rhetoric being spewed by the administration. They are letting the world know that if you are brown, Black, POC, different ethnicities you are not welcome. Proof is that they are targeting these people. You NEVER see immigrants who are white getting deported with no rights.


The USA under trump is getting worse. Every damn day.

Sick to death of the conservative “Christians” rhetoric and pretense with this administration. YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN IF YOU SUPPORT THIS ADMINISTRATION. There is NOTHING that this administration is doing that is remotely Christian like. NOTHING. Jesus didn’t put children in cages. Jesus didn’t separate children from parents. Jesus didn’t glorify wealth and only support the wealthy. Jesus did not divide or hate or bully people.

I fucking hate the division that this administration is driving. He’s full of shit reading the TelePrompTer saying we have to unite, then out of the other side of his big pie hole, he lies, gaslights, and bullies people.

I found this:





Seriously, fuck this President.

I read this story earlier today:


(CNN)An Iraqi national who had lived in the US since he was an infant died shortly after being deported to Iraq as part of the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration.



Jimmy Aldaoud, 41, died from complications of diabetes, his attorney Edward Bajoka told CNN. Aldaoud, who had a long criminal record, was deported in early June to Iraq, where he had no family or contacts and did not speak the language. His body was found Tuesday at an apartment he shared with another Iraqi American deportee.


"He was not able to get insulin in Iraq. That was essentially the cause of his death," Bajoka said. "This death was completely preventable. It did not have to happen. The death has been devastating to Jimmy's family and to the community."


Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in Detroit tell CNN that when Aldaoud was deported on June 2, "he was supplied with a full complement of medicine to ensure continuity of care."


Aldaoud, part of the Chaldean Catholic community in Michigan, had never been to Iraq, his attorney said, despite holding Iraqi citizenship through his father. He was born in a refugee camp in Greece. His family came to the US lawfully as refugees in 1979 when he was 6 months old, ICE confirmed to CNN. His now-deceased parents and three other siblings all became US citizens, Bajoka said, but he never did.


Bajoka shared a video of Aldaoud taken in Iraq two and a half weeks after he was deported, where he discusses being apprehended by ICE agents in May before being coerced onto a commercial flight days later.


"I begged them. I said, 'Please, I've never seen that country. I've never been there,' " Aldaoud says in the video. "They forced me. I'm here now, and I don't understand the language. I've been sleeping in the streets. I'm diabetic. I take insulin shots. I've been throwing up, throwing up, sleeping in the streets. I've got nothing to eat."


Aldaoud had an extensive criminal history "that involved no less than 20 convictions between 1998-2017," a Detroit ICE official told CNN, including assault with a dangerous weapon, domestic violence, contempt of court, failure to appear, breaking and entering, malicious destruction of a building, home invasion and possession of marijuana. His criminal history ultimately led to him being incarcerated and transferred to ICE custody in the early 2000s, Bajoka said.

"He had severe mental health issues. He was bipolar, schizophrenic, suffered from severe depression and anxiety," Bajoka said. "That's ultimately what led to his trouble with the law, and ultimately what led to his deportation."


Aldaoud's family, along with Democratic Rep. Andy Levin, of Aldaoud's home state of Michigan, is hoping to be able to bring his body back to the US to receive a Catholic burial and be laid to rest next to his parents.


"This should say to the Trump administration, if they continue to deport vulnerable people to Iraq that they will -- people will continue to meet the worst kind of fate that they can imagine," Levin said. "What I ask is what policy interest of the United States does this serve? I do not understand."

Levin is sponsoring a bill along with Republican Rep. John Moolenaar of Michigan that aims to halt deportations of Iraqi nationals in order to give them time to appeal their immigration cases.


"I've had intense discussions with the administration about this. They've been friendly and not hostile at all. But it just doesn't seem like they're likely to change course," Levin told CNN. "My message to Iraqi diplomats right now is that they need to not take anyone in if they can't provide a true safety for them."

Bajoka said Aldaoud had been released from ICE custody in the early 2000s and been redetained in June 2017, as part of a massive immigration sweep that targeted Iraqi nationals with deportation orders. Aldaoud had had deportation orders since 2005, ICE confirmed to CNN.


He was part of a class action suit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan aimed at releasing detainees who were being held indefinitely, partly because of Iraq's unwillingness to receive them, according to court filings.

After spending 18 months at an ICE detention facility in Ohio, Aldaoud was released in December 2018 because of a court order in that case, along with other detainees, but he "immediately absconded from ICE's noncustodial supervision program by cutting his GPS tether on the day of his release," according to a Detroit ICE official.


As his immigration case continued to hit roadblocks, Bajoka said, Aldaoud had given up on continuing to appeal it when he was detained in May. ICE officials say he was arrested by local law enforcement for stealing from a vehicle in April.


"They (ICE) redetained him and basically told him, 'Look you don't have a choice. We don't care if you don't want to go,' " Bajoka said. "They were physically intimidating to him, and they basically forced him onto this plane."


Levin said deporting Aldaoud to Iraq was essentially sending him to "his death."


"It was a death sentence to send him to Iraq," Levin said. "He has no family there. The Chaldean community is largely destroyed there. He doesn't speak Arabic. He's totally Americanized. He's got mental health problems, so he's not able to deal. He's diabetic. He had no reason to have access to medicine there."

I think the reason there hasn’t been much chatter here is because we might be becoming “war weary”. Seriously, My heart just can’t handle much more news about bad things happening to people. Shootings, a stabbing, raids, child abuse. It is seriously weighing heavy on my heart.

I have had a tough time even watching fictional stories like on Orange is the New Black because so many storylines now are stories about characters who have no control over their lives. I feel so lucky that I am able to determine my own destiny right now. It just makes me sad.  

There is no way management doesn't know and/or isn't actively recruiting workers from this community. They are completely disposable assets for the business to use and abuse and it makes me very angry.

Why isn't ICE raiding Devin Nunes's family dairy farm in Iowa? Esquire had a great article on them last year.

In 2006 a local to me processing plant was raided and they arrested about 1300 employess. The owners, managers and higher ups were not charged. However, the HR manager plead guilty on a charge that he had counseled an illegal immigrant on how to be hired. There were fines as well (but not fines so high they were devastating to the company). At the time (and probably still) this was the largest immigration raid & honestly, the repercussions to the company weren't as devastating as one would think they would be. The workers were the ones who felt it most.

My husband used to work in corporate for a different (very similar) company that processes meat. He said that there is a pretty tight wall between those who are higher up & HR. They keep an iron curtain between them so they have deniability. So I think its possible that the owners/managers did not know what was going on...but its only because they didn't want to know. 

RAICES is the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services. If they’re retweeting her, she’s legit. I would assume she’s one of their lawyers or activists.

www.raicestexas.org/

Once you are here illegally, it is almost impossible to get legal status. The last amnesty program I believe was back in the 80’s, almost 40 years ago.

All of your questions come from a place of privilege.

Here’s her bio www.alidagarcia.com/biography

Especially since the people and companies that employ them are not treated as criminals.

I see it both ways. On one hand, I think if large billionaire employers were held accountable, they'd push their elected representatives to change the laws. The big companies see the undocumented immigrant workers as disposable - one batch goes, and another batch comes in to take their place. Maybe they lose a little money in the short term, but long term they're better off financially for having these workers. Fearful workers don't make waves and don't "whine" about their rights.

Smaller companies, like restaurants, landscapers and others who also rely heavily on undocumented labor also take a hit - sometimes a fatal one. There are two restaurants in the little town in Maine where we vacation that had to close down last summer because they could not find the labor they needed. In the past, they had relied heavily on undocumented immigrants, but many were fearful and didn't want to travel to a place for seasonal work where they would stick out like sore thumbs in the largely white community. They couldn't find locals to take the jobs, so they had to shut down and lost a whole year's income. Those are the people I feel for and I don't personally hold them accountable.

One of the very real problems is there is no legal route for these workers. We need them in our economy and don't provide any legal route for them.