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Post by chlerbie on Aug 16, 2019 19:06:10 GMT
And Trumpsters are ANGRY.
Yes, the court ruled that immigrant children being held need to receive adequate food, water, soap and toothpaste and on the Fox News Facebook page, his supporters are losing their minds. First of all, it's unbelievable to me that we need a court order to provide this and secondly that anyone would be unhappy that these children are receiving this. I guess nothing should surprise me anymore.
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Post by RosieKat on Aug 16, 2019 19:08:08 GMT
Holy crap, you mean we need to treat humans humanely? What will they think of next?
It just slays me. We don't even let animal shelters have as crappy conditions. No matter how you feel about them being here, they deserve humane treatment.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 16, 2019 19:08:10 GMT
It is downright embarrassing. I just can't even with those people who are foaming at the mouths like rabid dogs who cannot fathom providing those basic necessities to children.
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Post by chlerbie on Aug 16, 2019 19:13:28 GMT
Holy crap, you mean we need to treat humans humanely? What will they think of next? It just slays me. We don't even let animal shelters have as crappy conditions. No matter how you feel about them being here, they deserve humane treatment. Oh, but they're arguing that OUR children don't receive that free, so why should they? Or that they had to struggle as single parents, so they begrudge these poor children even the slightest of comfort. It's absolutely disgusting and I'm really hating people right now. Or at least a huge section of them. |
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Post by busy on Aug 16, 2019 19:18:35 GMT
Holy crap, you mean we need to treat humans humanely? What will they think of next? It just slays me. We don't even let animal shelters have as crappy conditions. No matter how you feel about them being here, they deserve humane treatment. Oh, but they're arguing that OUR children don't receive that free, so why should they? Or that they had to struggle as single parents, so they begrudge these poor children even the slightest of comfort. It's absolutely disgusting and I'm really hating people right now. Or at least a huge section of them. Except "our" children do, if they are detained by our government. |
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Post by beachbum on Aug 16, 2019 19:56:22 GMT
I think "deplorable" is a fitting word for those heartless bastards.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 16, 2019 20:06:11 GMT
Holy crap, you mean we need to treat humans humanely? What will they think of next? It just slays me. We don't even let animal shelters have as crappy conditions. No matter how you feel about them being here, they deserve humane treatment. Oh, but they're arguing that OUR children don't receive that free, so why should they? Or that they had to struggle as single parents, so they begrudge these poor children even the slightest of comfort. It's absolutely disgusting and I'm really hating people right now. Or at least a huge section of them. Our children in need and/or incarcerated/held ARE fed, clothed, and have necessities and go to school et al.
They cannot tell me that not one of them has collected welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, Medicaid, Social Security, Medicare and/or charity from a church or friend!!
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Post by rickmer on Aug 16, 2019 20:33:16 GMT
gross. people's ability to separate "us" from "them" never fails to amaze me - clearly not in a good way. ugh.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 17, 2019 13:41:38 GMT
I think "deplorable" is a fitting word for those heartless bastards. I don’t think it goes far enough. |
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Post by trollie on Aug 17, 2019 15:01:08 GMT
This is no longer political. It is moral. Whichever side you fall on the immigration debate is moot at this point. People being detained and/or incarcerated need to be treated humanely. Period. End.
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Post by Just T on Aug 17, 2019 15:35:06 GMT
This is no longer political. It is moral. Whichever side you fall on the immigration debate is moot at this point. People being detained and/or incarcerated need to be treated humanely. Period. End. I agree with you 1000000%. I don't care where one stands on the wall (well, I do, but I am trying to not hold it against people, mainly because I doubt it is really going to happen), but if you are a person who thinks the way we are treating innocent children is okay, I will think you are a despicable person.
I have a couple of relatives who have posted FB memes of photos of soldiers sleeping on the ground in tents in Afghanistan with captions basically chastising those who think the way the US is treating these immigrant children is awful but being okay with our brave soldiers living in those conditions. To my mind, there is zero comparison between adult men and women who know what they may encounter when they join the military and the way we are treating innocent children.
I know we have an immigration problem that must be fixed, but I don't think that treating children, even babies, in such an appalling manner is the answer. We should be better than that! I also wonder, has anyone who thinks this is A-OK thought about what those children are going to think of the US as they grow up? Are we just ensuring that we will someday have a new crop of terrorists who hate all Americans?
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Post by gryroagain on Aug 17, 2019 16:19:09 GMT
I will never understand the people who say “well, why give (prisoners/immigrants/whoever decent food and health care when my family/neighbor/whoever doesn’t have it?
Because EVERYONE should have it. That’s the real issue here. We are the richest country on earth, and it is NOT ok people have no access to health care or healthy food- no matter the circumstances, in this country. And if we could just focus on that we could actually fix things, but instead we are divided into us versus them,
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 17, 2019 16:24:52 GMT
Oh, but they're arguing that OUR children don't receive that free, so why should they? Or that they had to struggle as single parents, so they begrudge these poor children even the slightest of comfort. It's absolutely disgusting and I'm really hating people right now. Or at least a huge section of them. Our children in need and/or incarcerated/held ARE fed, clothed, and have necessities and go to school et al.
They cannot tell me that not one of them has collected welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, Medicaid, Social Security, Medicare and/or charity from a church or friend!!
actually, I've found a lot of people who have used those services in the past or are still using them are often the ones calling out those programs now. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2019 18:09:09 GMT
actually, I've found a lot of people who have used those services in the past or are still using them are often the ones calling out those programs now. THEY are entitled to them. The 'others' are not! |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 17, 2019 18:13:55 GMT
Our children in need and/or incarcerated/held ARE fed, clothed, and have necessities and go to school et al.
They cannot tell me that not one of them has collected welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, Medicaid, Social Security, Medicare and/or charity from a church or friend!!
actually, I've found a lot of people who have used those services in the past or are still using them are often the ones calling out those programs now. I have one of those on my feed. It's all I can do not to say...yeah Medicaid was fine for your two dadless children and you felt no shame taking food stamps. But socialism! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2019 18:18:23 GMT
This is no longer political. It is moral. Whichever side you fall on the immigration debate is moot at this point. People being detained and/or incarcerated need to be treated humanely. Period. End. Absolutely!! Ye, the moral thing to do! The decent thing to do! The Christian thing to do, since they are so free with calling themselves Christians |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2019 18:35:49 GMT
I know we have an immigration problem that must be fixed, but I don't think that treating children, even babies, in such an appalling manner is the answer. We should be better than that! I also wonder, has anyone who thinks this is A-OK thought about what those children are going to think of the US as they grow up? Are we just ensuring that we will someday have a new crop of terrorists who hate all Americans? Bold mine.. I have and posted about it. Many of these kids are going to hate us for what we have done! They are being damaged mentally and emotionally for life. Babies, young children need touch, kindness as well as physical things ! OUR children will be asking 'how could you let this happen' Some of the children of dt follows will ask how could you support this?
The children growing up now will be damaged one way or another by this mess!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Aug 17, 2019 18:37:47 GMT
I'm glad the courts are still able to uphold values.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Aug 17, 2019 19:34:00 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 17, 2019 19:50:33 GMT
actually, I've found a lot of people who have used those services in the past or are still using them are often the ones calling out those programs now. THEY are entitled to them. The 'others' are not! exactly. I teach a year on political oppression and we go into a lot of "the other." We start small and get bigger. Hopefully they get it |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2019 21:02:49 GMT
exactly. I teach a year on political oppression and we go into a lot of "the other." We start small and get bigger. Hopefully they get it Excellent! Years ago there would have been nights we didn't have food for dinner but for the five pound block of cheese we had at home. One of my problems with Cuccinelli and his 'public' charge. Anyone, citizen or not, can be working at a job, even for years and get laid off and need some assistance over the rough spots. With non citizens this could cost them their future citizenship, which to me is totally wrong. It is a temporary emergency, not a lifestyle! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2019 22:13:08 GMT
#BeBest ........................... Stephen Miller, so proud!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT ** Some White House aides reportedly joined in an effort to try to limit undocumented immigrants' access to public benefits, including the public school system.Bloomberg reported Saturday that Trump aide Stephen Miller led an effort beginning in 2017 that sought out ways to limit public school enrollment among undocumented immigrants, and pressed Cabinet officials as well as the White House Domestic Policy Council to aid his efforts. The plan was eventually abandoned, with Bloomberg reporting that Miller was informed that his efforts would run afoul of a Supreme Court decision guaranteeing access to public schools to all residents of the U.S. including undocumented immigrants. Miller's efforts reportedly got as far as the crafting of a guidance memo to be sent by the Department of Education (DOE) informing states that they could refuse public school access to undocumented students. The reported memo was never released, and a spokesperson for DOE told Bloomberg that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos "would never consider it.” The White House did not immediately return a request for comment from The Hill on Saturday. Frank Sharry, director of the immigrant advocacy group America's Voice, ripped the reported effort.
“Such a radical policy change would be unlawful, unacceptable and un-American,” Sharry told Bloomberg. “The notion that we should punish little kids who go to school and pledge allegiance to our flag because Trump and Miller want to make America white again is incredibly cruel, dark and sinister.” Bloomberg cited an unnamed senior administration official who broadly pushed back on accounts of Miller's initiative as coming from disgruntled bureaucrats. The official also emphasized the "strain" undocumented immigrants put on social services, the outlet reported. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/457815-trump-aides-pushed-for-states-ability-to-block-migrant-kids-from |
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