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Post by mimi3566 on Sept 14, 2019 12:37:43 GMT
So I'm the only one who thinks her white privilege got her through this mess with just a slap on the wrist? To me, this is a case of Hollywood, rich & famous privilege vs. white privilege.
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 14, 2019 13:06:34 GMT
For all those who think Felicity is remorseful, do you think she would be remorseful if she hadn’t been caught?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 14, 2019 13:42:32 GMT
For all those who think Felicity is remorseful, do you think she would be remorseful if she hadn’t been caught? Maybe, maybe not. It’s really moot and just like the saying “if no one is in the forest and a tree falls, does it make noise?”. I’d say she might have felt guilty, albeit privately. I know when I do something wrong, even when no one else knows, I have feelings of guilt, shame, self hate. But it sounds like her daughter ripped her a new one for not believing in her own ability, and that’s likely devastating to her. I want to know what happens to Singer. So far, it seems that the prosecutors are using him as a “protected” source/witness to go after these parents, when he was the ringleader. I want to know why the one coach who accepted $600K+ did not serve jail time. Unless they prosecute all these parents the same, sentencing will be all over the board and I don’t see that as fair at all. It’s like your sentence will only be as good as your attorney argues on your behalf, vs this is what is wrong (they all did the same thing) so here’s the sentence. I do think Felicity was genuine in her apology/remorse—she owned up to it and accepted responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 14:40:02 GMT
This. This is what Huffman and her daughter will have to work to over come for years, longer than any jail sentence, community hours, or fines. I think another option would be for Huffman to pay college tuition/books for the student(s) that were denied admittance due to the shenanigans on top of what has already been put forth as sentencing.
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Post by MichyM on Sept 14, 2019 18:10:15 GMT
I think the fine was ridiculous. Too small. Way too small. And I think she should have stayed in prison for a month. Long enough for it to be uncomfortable. I'm tired of living in a society where the wealthy have a completely different set of rules. I put it on the other thread, I'll put it here too. Anyone who doesn't see two systems of justice needs a vision screen. I saw this the other day. Certainly puts it into perspective, doesn't it.
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Post by gale w on Sept 14, 2019 18:18:30 GMT
Well this poor lady got a 5 year sentence (suspended to 10 days, but still) for using her dad's address so he kids could go to a better public school. So 14 days is a joke. eta: sorry-didn't realize it was already posted.
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Post by sassyangel on Sept 14, 2019 19:27:30 GMT
If you’re a podcast listener, check out Gangster Capitalism. Season 1 is covering the college admissions scandal. You get to hear transcripts of the parents’ conversations (read by actors) with Rick Singer, and I think the episodes give some interesting insight into why the things these people did weren’t just victimless, petty crimes. Thanks, I’ve been looking for something new to listen to. I’ll check it out.
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Post by busy on Sept 14, 2019 20:15:13 GMT
I agree with this
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Post by papersilly on Sept 14, 2019 23:46:15 GMT
For all those who think Felicity is remorseful, do you think she would be remorseful if she hadn’t been caught? Of course not.
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Post by finaledition on Sept 15, 2019 0:05:51 GMT
It's my understanding her sentence is 14 days in prison (likely a country club type facility for whit. I heard on the news the name of the prison her lawyer requested and while they don’t have violent criminals, I’ve never once heard it described as a country club.
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Post by mom on Sept 15, 2019 0:37:41 GMT
Thank you for sharing this. This is definitely something I need to keep remembering.
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Post by cycworker on Sept 15, 2019 5:45:23 GMT
I completely agree with the tweets from Clint Smith. The problem isn't that Felicity Huffman's sentence was too light; it's that the black women referenced above received ridiculously harsh, punitive sentences.
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Post by likescarrots on Sept 15, 2019 14:55:43 GMT
For all those who think Felicity is remorseful, do you think she would be remorseful if she hadn’t been caught? I'm not sure she is remorseful and I didn't claim that in my post (not that you were directing this at me), however she admitted that what she did was wrong and is accepting the punishment (by pleading guilty), including having a felony charge on record.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 5:16:46 GMT
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Post by amom23 on Sept 25, 2019 8:33:07 GMT
I just read about this dad. Yikes and he pleaded guilty too. Lori and her DH and probably shaking in their boots about now. Hard to feel sorry for any of these parents though.
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Post by pastlifepea on Sept 25, 2019 12:29:54 GMT
I just read about this dad. Yikes and he pleaded guilty too. Lori and her DH and probably shaking in their boots about now. Hard to feel sorry for any of these parents though.
No joke! Huffman got off easy for a lot of reasons, not the least of which being her very quick public admittance and apology. Lori and her husband's actions sure helped her out too. Does she feel genuine remorse? I don't know...we can't really tell what is in other people's hearts. I'd like to think that she really didn't think about what she was potentially taking away from someone else to illegally obtain it for her daughter. She is certainly aware of it now. I think she'll be okay coming out of this.
Mr. Sloane is the REAL message to the Mossimo & Lori. Loud and clear, "We are coming for YOU"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 12:39:15 GMT
No sympathy for Lori at all. Not one tiny bit. Hope she goes down hard.
It's disgusting enough to cheat, lie and bribe your way in to "the club".
It's worse to not even admit you f'ed up and you're a cheater.
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Post by silverlining on Sept 25, 2019 13:33:58 GMT
I was surprised that Sloane got so much more jail time than Felicity Huffman. Four months is a significant chunk of time, and seems to me to be more appropriate than 2 weeks.
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Post by teddyw on Sept 25, 2019 13:45:38 GMT
I thought it was mentioned in earlier threads that the amount of money they paid factors into their charges & punishments.
Sloan’s paid $250,00 and she paid $15,000. Maybe that contributed.
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Post by workingclassdog on Sept 25, 2019 13:48:05 GMT
I can't open the article but I am assuming from the comments this Sloane person got 4 months and compared to Felicity's 2 weeks. I am wondering if he got that much more time because he had a lot more money invested than Felicity did.
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Post by PenandInk on Sept 25, 2019 14:01:41 GMT
I can't open the article but I am assuming from the comments this Sloane person got 4 months and compared to Felicity's 2 weeks. I am wondering if he got that much more time because he had a lot more money invested than Felicity did. Yes, and he also involved his child in elaborate fake water polo photos. Lied to the high school about his son playing water polo in Italy in the summers. His deceit was much more elaborate.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 25, 2019 14:13:10 GMT
I can't open the article but I am assuming from the comments this Sloane person got 4 months and compared to Felicity's 2 weeks. I am wondering if he got that much more time because he had a lot more money invested than Felicity did. Yes, and he also involved his child in elaborate fake water polo photos. Lied to the high school about his son playing water polo in Italy in the summers. His deceit was much more elaborate. This is what I was going to say, felicity did one thing @ the SAT testing center level, some of these other parents had much more elaborate schemes and committed level upon level of lies possibly to multiple institutions, including multiple pieces of evidence of their fraud.
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Post by workingclassdog on Sept 25, 2019 15:21:06 GMT
I can't open the article but I am assuming from the comments this Sloane person got 4 months and compared to Felicity's 2 weeks. I am wondering if he got that much more time because he had a lot more money invested than Felicity did. Yes, and he also involved his child in elaborate fake water polo photos. Lied to the high school about his son playing water polo in Italy in the summers. His deceit was much more elaborate. Okay $15,000 is one thing.. but this guy is in it for lots more money and fake water polo photos.. good grief....
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Post by papersilly on Sept 25, 2019 16:59:12 GMT
I can't open the article but I am assuming from the comments this Sloane person got 4 months and compared to Felicity's 2 weeks. I am wondering if he got that much more time because he had a lot more money invested than Felicity did. Yes, and he also involved his child in elaborate fake water polo photos. Lied to the high school about his son playing water polo in Italy in the summers. His deceit was much more elaborate. yeah, i consider his actions more on par with Lori Loughlin level deception.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 25, 2019 19:14:15 GMT
I don’t know. I have really mixed feelings about this. Yea, cheating is wrong, but I don’t know that cheating at college rises to the level of a federal crime. They didn’t bribe any government officials. I don’t know that the federal government is responsible for the reputation of universities. I don’t think she deserved any jail time. This was a scandal, but I’m not outraged about it at a criminal level. I'm feeling the same way. Her reputation and career are ruined at this point. To me, that is worse than any fine or jail time. I feel like she'll be fine soon enough. Her career will be back and people will watch whatever she does just because now they know who she is (if they didn't already).
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 25, 2019 23:45:22 GMT
I put it on the other thread, I'll put it here too. Anyone who doesn't see two systems of justice needs a vision screen. I saw this the other day. Certainly puts it into perspective, doesn't it.I have seen things like this in the past but they always got relatively short sentences. That is crazy. It happens all the time people saying they live where they don't trying to get into a better school. I know I wouldn't do it but I have known people that do and they think there is nothing wrong with it because a relative lives there and is paying taxes they don't get the whole fraud thing - I'm thinking mail fraud and such as well. They think there is nothing wrong with it. I think at least that Felicity understands that what she did was wrong unlike the people I have seen. I know the hoops I have to jump to prove where we live to get into our school and it isn't easy so to fake it takes effort.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 25, 2019 23:48:47 GMT
I thought it was mentioned in earlier threads that the amount of money they paid factors into their charges & punishments. Sloan’s paid $250,00 and she paid $15,000. Maybe that contributed.
That would be my take on it as well. Felicity didn't do the months of faking sports and all the pictures and such that Lori did that and the amount of money involved. Not saying she wasn't wrong but Lori is on a whole different level and then the fact that it is both of them and that they seem to think there was nothing wrong with it. Their attitude of privilege is just sickening.
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Post by MichyM on Sept 26, 2019 0:32:36 GMT
I saw this the other day. Certainly puts it into perspective, doesn't it.I have seen things like this in the past but they always got relatively short sentences. That is crazy. It happens all the time people saying they live where they don't trying to get into a better school. I know I wouldn't do it but I have known people that do and they think there is nothing wrong with it because a relative lives there and is paying taxes they don't get the whole fraud thing - I'm thinking mail fraud and such as well. They think there is nothing wrong with it. I think at least that Felicity understands that what she did was wrong unlike the people I have seen. I know the hoops I have to jump to prove where we live to get into our school and it isn't easy so to fake it takes effort. Would you edit this so that what you posted doesn't look like I said it? everything after the first 2 sentences of yours. Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 18:53:17 GMT
She's out after 11 days: Actress Felicity Huffman was released Friday from a federal prison in Dublin, California, after serving 11 days of a two-week sentence for her role in the college admissions scam, according to the Bureau of Prisons. Huffman, the "Desperate Housewives" star, was the first of the more than 30 parents charged in the sprawling criminal case to begin serving a prison sentence. She pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud for paying $15,000 to the scam's mastermind as part of a scheme to cheat on the SATs and boost her daughter's test scores. Huffman reported to federal prison October 15, according to a representative. She was set free because of a bureau policy that allows inmates to leave before a release date that "falls on a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday, on the last preceding weekday unless it is necessary to detain the inmate for another jurisdiction seeking custody under a detainer, or for any other reason which might indicate that the inmate should not be released until the inmate's scheduled release date," according to the BOP. www.cnn.com/2019/10/25/us/felicity-huffman-release/index.html
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