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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 19:20:08 GMT
NPR... ”Ousted National Security Adviser Bolton Slams Trump's approach to North Korea” It seems trump found an ex National Security Adviser just as vindictive as he is. He has a lot more to tell!! Whether he should is questionable. Do we want him to? Yup! Only if it is not a security issue.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 20:25:42 GMT
Subpoena for Giulani from Shiff House Intel Committee!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 20:28:58 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
”Breaking via NYT: Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent call to help Attorney General Barr gather information for a Justice Dept. inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials.”
“The White House restricted access to the call's transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president."
So its Ukraine and Australia
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Post by hop2 on Sept 30, 2019 20:29:20 GMT
I watched that last night in 60 minutes and the guy was a dick to the interviewer. He was asked a question and he goes totally off topic and starts blathering on about citing to send troops to war. I’m like WTF did you not hear the question he asked you. Do you have a hearing problem? I’m still trying to figure out how someone THAT sleezy is elected in California?
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Post by hop2 on Sept 30, 2019 20:30:15 GMT
And then there is this from Catherine Rampbell.. ”House Ways & Means Chair Neal said he’s consulting lawyers about whether to make public a complaint by a federal employee about possible misconduct in the IRS’s auditing of Trump. Employee alleges “inappropriate efforts to influence” the audit process” Sorry, but does he think it is safe to do so? inappropriate influence from where/whom?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 30, 2019 20:30:46 GMT
Subpoena for Giulani from Shiff House Intel Committee! oh, I HOPE they televise this one!! It should be good for quite a few laughs, since Giuliani can't string three words together coherently without sticking his foot in his mouth. Maybe they'll get to look at the text messages and call logs on his phone, while they're at it! “The White House restricted access to the call's transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president." I'm betting there's a LOT of phone call transcripts on that server that really shouldn't be there. Apparently no one in that White House cares about the ACTUAL rules, just the "Donald-Trump trying-to-avoid-the-shitshow" rules.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 20:31:25 GMT
Wall Street Journal: Pompeo listened in on the call of July 25th with Zelensky!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 20:33:11 GMT
Sorry, but does he think it is safe to do so? inappropriate influence from where/whom? Mnuchin? Barr? Trump? Mulvaney? Someone with connections in the IRS!
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Post by hop2 on Sept 30, 2019 20:33:58 GMT
Kyle Griffin... ”Breaking via NYT: Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent call to help Attorney General Barr gather information for a Justice Dept. inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials.” “The White House restricted access to the call's transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president." So its Ukraine and Australia He better watch out, Australia tends to be pretty independent and might just release their transcript of the phone call. If that happens I will lmao
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Post by hop2 on Sept 30, 2019 20:35:37 GMT
Subpoena for Giulani from Shiff House Intel Committee! oh, I HOPE they televise this one!! It should be good for quite a few laughs, since Giuliani can't string three words together coherently without sticking his foot in his mouth. Maybe they'll get to look at the text messages and call logs on his phone, while they're at it! Last night in the news they said they start with a subpoena for documents and then follow up as necessary - which makes sense if you can get documents from him then who knows where it will lead
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 20:35:50 GMT
Kyle Griffin... ”Breaking via NYT: Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent call to help Attorney General Barr gather information for a Justice Dept. inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials.” “The White House restricted access to the call's transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president." So its Ukraine and Australia He better watch out, Australia tends to be pretty independent and might just release their transcript of the phone call. If that happens I will lmao Bold mine. Oh how we can hope!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 20:55:27 GMT
Hoarse Whisperer...
”1) Giuliani subpoenaed 2) Three Giuliani associates scheduled for depositions 3) Pompeo outed as being on the Ukraine call 4) New breaking story about Trump asked Australia to help discredit Mueller
This is just the news of the past hour.
And it isn’t even 5 pm.”
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 30, 2019 21:04:01 GMT
I am guessing all the MSNBC news show hosts are scrambling to re-write and re-write, probably up until the exact second their shows go on the air. The Fox "News" shows don't have to worry about any of that... their insistence on ignoring current events makes things a lot easier on them, at least.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 30, 2019 21:08:17 GMT
It's a big state. And same reasons as other places how people get elected. See also: Nunes.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 21:16:42 GMT
You beat me too it.... Think Nunes!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 21:51:45 GMT
Kurt Volker will be testifying Thursday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 22:03:11 GMT
Well this keeps getting more interesting.
After 9/11 it was determined the information that could have prevented the attack was “out there” but dots were not connected between the various intelligence agencies as to what was about to happen. It is my understanding that steps were taken so the various agencies would actually work together so dots could be connected and something like 9/11 couldn’t happen again.
In 2016 the intelligence community determined that Russia was trying and succeeding in meddling our general election for President. Since that time trump has been trying to discredit the intelligence community by not believing their belief of Russia’s meddling and has hinted at and said so publicly. Whether it’s to protect a Russia or his own fragile ego is not clear although I suspect it’s both. Here is the latest step he taking to if not to destroy our intelligence community at least cripple it. From the Washington Post....
“Attorney General Barr personally asked foreign officials to aid inquiry into CIA, FBI activities in 2016”
“Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.
Barr’s personal involvement is likely to stoke further criticism from Democrats pursuing impeachment that he is helping the Trump administration use executive branch powers to augment investigations aimed primarily at the president’s adversaries.
But the high level Justice Department focus on intelligence operatives’ conduct will likely cheer Trump and other conservatives for whom “investigate the investigators” has become a rallying cry.
The direct involvement of the nation’s top law enforcement official shows the priority Barr places on the investigation being conducted by John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, who has been assigned the sensitive task of reviewing U.S. intelligence work surrounding the 2016 election and its aftermath.
The attorney general’s active role also underscores the degree to which a nearly three-year old election still consumes significant resources and attention inside the federal government. Current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials expressed frustration and alarm Monday that the head of the Justice Department was taking such a direct role in re-examining what they view as conspiracy theories and baseless allegations of misconduct.
Barr has already made overtures to British intelligence officials, and last week the attorney general traveled to Italy, where he and Durham met senior Italian government officials and Barr asked the Italians to assist Durham, according to one person familiar with the matter. It was not Barr’s first trip to Italy to meet intelligence officials, the person said. The Trump administration has made similar requests of Australia, these people said.
A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.
The president still complains frequently that those involved in the investigation of his campaign should be charged with crimes, asserting the FBI search for possible election season collusion between Russia and Trump campaign officials was a witch hunt, spurred by agents and bureaucrats opposed to Trump becoming president. That investigation ended earlier this year when special counsel Robert S. Mueller III determined there was insufficient evidence to charge any Americans with conspiring with Russia, and declined to reach a decision about whether the president had sought to obstruct justice.
David Laufman, a former Justice Department official who was involved in the early stages of the Russia probe, said it was “fairly unorthodox for the attorney general personally to be flying around the world as a point person to further evidence-gathering for a specific Justice Department investigation,” and especially so in Barr’s case.
“Even if one questions, as a threshold matter, the propriety of conducting a re-investigation of the Justice Department’s own prior investigation of Russia’s interference, the appointment of John Durham — a seasoned, nonpartisan prosecutor — provided some reason to believe that it would be handled in a professional, nonpartisan manner,” Laufman said. “But if the attorney general is essentially running this investigation, that entire premise is out the window.”
This is a developing story and will be updated.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 30, 2019 22:32:48 GMT
“ Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter....as in, intelligence officials from FOREIGN countries? to help discredit the US INTELLIGENCE agencies? (and why? just to protect Trump's fragile ego, or for some OTHER reason?) how is going to foreign countries to discredit our OWN civil servant's work NOT grounds to impeach HIM? this whole thing just gets crazier and crazier, doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 22:56:15 GMT
Andrea Mitchell...
”I tried to ask @secpompeo today why he is targeting veteran diplomats for routine emails when they had nothing to do with that private server.
He turned his back and walked away.”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 22:58:34 GMT
Greg Miller..
”The attorney general is making undisclosed trips overseas asking foreign intel services to help investigate U.S. intel services. That is not normal. @devlinbarrett @shaneharris @mattzap”
No it is not normal. But it is destructive.
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Post by scrappinheather on Sept 30, 2019 23:18:54 GMT
I love that the free press is helping bring down this president. With the stories in WA PO and NYTimes today it’s very invigorating to know they are helping to sway public opinion and uncover the facts to get this impeachment done.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 30, 2019 23:45:40 GMT
“Even if one questions, as a threshold matter, the propriety of conducting a re-investigation of the Justice Department’s own prior investigation of Russia’s interference, the appointment of John Durham — a seasoned, nonpartisan prosecutor — provided some reason to believe that it would be handled in a professional, nonpartisan manner,” Laufman said. “But if the attorney general is essentially running this investigation, that entire premise is out the window.”There truly are no words! So much for professional and nonpartisan. There is no shame for dishonorable behavior all the way to the top.
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Post by Just T on Oct 1, 2019 0:12:22 GMT
I love that the free press is helping bring down this president. With the stories in WA PO and NYTimes today it’s very invigorating to know they are helping to sway public opinion and uncover the facts to get this impeachment done. Yep. I have been saying this for a long time. Trump et al can suppress/bully/cover up all they want, but remember members of the press is who brought down Nixon.
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Post by pjaye on Oct 1, 2019 4:09:56 GMT
You have to love Luke Skywalker...lol
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Post by pyccku on Oct 1, 2019 12:19:59 GMT
You know, if Luke Skywalker hates my family, I'm going to start thinking really long and hard about whether or not I'm one of the baddies.
There is only one person who benefits from the chaos and destruction of the US - and that person is probably sitting happily in the Kremlin, smoking a cigar and making a toast to a successful mission.
Who knew? It didn't take a single bullet to bring down the US, just a bunch of tweets and facebook posts and memes. You have veterans who took an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution watching a president take a dump on it while they cheer him on - but they scream with anger at a man who kneels during the anthem. We've got innocents by the hundreds - including children - being killed by madmen with more firepower than the founding fathers would have had in an entire unit - and despite 90% of the country wanting something to be done, the response is a shrug of the shoulders from the government and an "oh well, nothing can be done here - 2nd amendment, amirite?" All due to a small organization that was stupid enough to be duped into hopping into bed with Russian "gun rights" groups. Dude, it's RUSSIA. There are no "gun rights" groups, only a government-sponsored honeypot organization. We've got crazy anti-vaxxers and anti-science people who think that "their side" is equal of consideration even if it endangers the lives of others.
Russia was able to use Americans' own stupidity and gullibility as a secret weapon and it worked better than they ever imagined. And it's still working, and Americans are still falling for it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 13:39:26 GMT
Trump's FALSE claim that someone "changed the law". Just another lie in lying POTUS land: www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fact-check-were-whistleblower-rules-changed-ukraine-complaint-n1060481"The Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community released a statement confirming that there is no requirement for first-hand information in such a complaint and said they had not rejected complaints on that basis. The form was changed this summer, when new employees began reviewing forms. "In the process of reviewing and clarifying those forms, and in response to recent press inquiries regarding the instant whistleblower complaint, the ICIG understood that certain language in those forms and, more specifically, the informational materials accompanying the forms, could be read — incorrectly — as suggesting that whistleblowers must possess first-hand information in order to file an urgent concern complaint with the congressional intelligence committees." The Ukraine whistleblower, the statement noted, used both first-hand and second-hand information in the complaint... “Most of the complaints I’m familiar with have had some second-hand information,” Bachman said. The president and his allies widely shared a story in conservative outlet The Federalist, which reported that a previous version of an intelligence community whistleblower form had included a paragraph stressing the importance of first-hand information in complaints transmitted from the inspector general to Congress.... Trump has spread numerous conspiracy theories related to the whistleblower complaint in an apparent attempt to discredit the allegations that have prompted impeachment proceedings. He tweeted the Federalist story on Saturday before re-upping the claim again on Monday.
Bradley Moss, an attorney who specializes in representing whistleblowers, said when asked about the Federalist story, “The law was not changed. What happened was a form was changed. A form cannot change the law."
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 1, 2019 14:22:55 GMT
Can someone remind me what the criteria for the 25th amendment is?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 15:13:02 GMT
Legal Definition of obstruction of justice
: the crime or act of willfully interfering with the process of justice and law especially by influencing, threatening, harming, or impeding a witness, potential witness, juror, or judicial or legal officer or by furnishing false information in or otherwise impeding an investigation or legal process
AP...
”BREAKING: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says in a letter to the House Foreign Affairs Committee that Democrats are trying to "intimidate" and "bully" State Department employees and that depositions scheduled by the panel are "not feasible."
Based on the definition of obstruction of justice I would say that is exactly what Pompeo is doing.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 1, 2019 17:45:24 GMT
Sen Chuck Grassley(R-IA) states that the Whistleblower should be heard and protected. A stand dt is NOT taking!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 19:10:10 GMT
So what is the difference between this...
Greg Miller...
”Pompeo removed the US ambassador to Ukraine who had been target of smear campaign. He listened to July 25 call. His department is calling dozens of former Clinton aides in for questioning.”
And this...
Mike Pompeo...
“I’m concerned with aspects of the Committee’s request that can be understood only as an attempt to intimidate, bully, & treat improperly the distinguished professionals of the Department of State, including several career FSOs.”
Seriously anyone? What’s the difference?
What he is doing is going after those who worked with Clinton, trump’s political rival from 2016, and at the same time protecting trump by obstructing justice.
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