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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 2, 2019 23:19:45 GMT
Pence aide was on THE dt call with Zelensky!!
Remember dt told Pence not to go to Zelensky's inauguration in May, although Rick Perry, Ivanka, probably Jared, went to the inauguration, I posted photo proof!
Pence met with Zelensky in Poland, after the military aid was withheld! Oh wait, Pence told Zelensky in person why the military aid was withheld!
Now dt is stating that Pence had several calls with Zelensky.
And the list goes on.............. sure, he didn't know anything!
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Post by Just T on Oct 2, 2019 23:25:35 GMT
There is so much stuff happening, I can't even keep up! Thank goodness for the peas who link stories, articles, etc.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 2, 2019 23:29:00 GMT
Leading questions much?
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Post by Merge on Oct 2, 2019 23:32:16 GMT
Wait, with all the things they accuse Democrats of on the daily, THAT'S what gets a Fox host fired?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2019 23:55:14 GMT
Reuters....
“North Korea says successfully tested new submarine-launched ballistic missile: KCNA”
If true, this is kind of a game changer. I wonder what the stable genius has to say about this...
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 2, 2019 23:59:34 GMT
Reuters.... “North Korea says successfully tested new submarine-launched ballistic missile: KCNA” If true, this is kind of a game changer. I wonder what the stable genius has to say about this... He has too much on his mind to acknowledge that he was wrong to trust his love letter writer friend!! Or it is fake news, didn't happen.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 3, 2019 0:47:40 GMT
Yes, he has dragged Pence into the phone call fold! A top adviser to Vice President Pence was on the call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the center of a whistleblower complaint, according to The Washington Post. The Post reported Wednesday that current and former U.S. officials said a top Pence adviser was on the July 25 call during which Trump asked Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's dealings in Ukraine. Pence should have had access to a transcript of the call within hours, officials told the paper. White House officials told the Post the vice president likely would have received detailed notes from the call in his briefing book a day later and that the document should have been part of the briefing materials he took to prepare for a meeting in Warsaw with Zelensky on Sept 1.** During his meeting with Zelensky, Pence did not mention Biden, according to the report. But former officials told the Post that Pence's emphasis on corruption may have been interpreted as a “code” for the issue, possibly unintentional on Pence’s part. A top Pence staffer rejected the assertion that Pence was relaying a coded message to Zelensky. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/464145-top-pence-adviser-was-on-trump-zelensky-phone-call-at-center-of
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Oct 3, 2019 1:27:02 GMT
How does one live a lavish lifestyle on 17k? I mean, she is a horrible crook to steal from her mother, but I am not convinced that amount could support more than a day max of what I would consider lavish.
Also, that was a fun poll. I like responding the opposite of what is intended and making up fake names and emails. If I disappear, it's because they tracked my IP address. Byeeeee.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Oct 3, 2019 2:17:10 GMT
Several thoughts -
I too did Trump's poll - on my phone and on my home pc. Used fictitious emails like dump trump or impeach trump. LOL
Re: the rat at the white house, no not the big orange one! Wasn't he just spouting off how Baltimore is filthy with rats??? Serves him right!
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Post by lizacreates on Oct 3, 2019 2:26:27 GMT
Yes, he has dragged Pence into the phone call fold! A top adviser to Vice President Pence was on the call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the center of a whistleblower complaint, according to The Washington Post. The Post reported Wednesday that current and former U.S. officials said a top Pence adviser was on the July 25 call during which Trump asked Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's dealings in Ukraine. Pence should have had access to a transcript of the call within hours, officials told the paper. White House officials told the Post the vice president likely would have received detailed notes from the call in his briefing book a day later and that the document should have been part of the briefing materials he took to prepare for a meeting in Warsaw with Zelensky on Sept 1.** During his meeting with Zelensky, Pence did not mention Biden, according to the report. But former officials told the Post that Pence's emphasis on corruption may have been interpreted as a “code” for the issue, possibly unintentional on Pence’s part. A top Pence staffer rejected the assertion that Pence was relaying a coded message to Zelensky. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/464145-top-pence-adviser-was-on-trump-zelensky-phone-call-at-center-ofPence’s aides had said that when he went to Poland in Sept to meet with Zelensky, Pence had no knowledge of the corruption allegations being made against Biden. If Pence had a transcript of Trump’s July call to Zelensky, then it’s impossible for him not to have known. It’d be interesting to see how they attempt to square this. Pence may not have mentioned Biden’s name in his meeting with Zelensky, but you’d have to be awfully thick not to understand that when Pence talks to you about corruption, he means the allegation against Biden simply because the meaning had already been made clear two months before! Bottom line is, a whole slew of people knew about the true nature of that phone call and they all endeavored to cover it up.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 3, 2019 5:59:51 GMT
Yes, he has dragged Pence into the phone call fold! A top adviser to Vice President Pence was on the call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that is at the center of a whistleblower complaint, according to The Washington Post. The Post reported Wednesday that current and former U.S. officials said a top Pence adviser was on the July 25 call during which Trump asked Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's dealings in Ukraine. Pence should have had access to a transcript of the call within hours, officials told the paper. White House officials told the Post the vice president likely would have received detailed notes from the call in his briefing book a day later and that the document should have been part of the briefing materials he took to prepare for a meeting in Warsaw with Zelensky on Sept 1.** During his meeting with Zelensky, Pence did not mention Biden, according to the report. But former officials told the Post that Pence's emphasis on corruption may have been interpreted as a “code” for the issue, possibly unintentional on Pence’s part. A top Pence staffer rejected the assertion that Pence was relaying a coded message to Zelensky. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/464145-top-pence-adviser-was-on-trump-zelensky-phone-call-at-center-ofPence’s aides had said that when he went to Poland in Sept to meet with Zelensky, Pence had no knowledge of the corruption allegations being made against Biden. If Pence had a transcript of Trump’s July call to Zelensky, then it’s impossible for him not to have known. It’d be interesting to see how they attempt to square this. Pence may not have mentioned Biden’s name in his meeting with Zelensky, but you’d have to be awfully thick not to understand that when Pence talks to you about corruption, he means the allegation against Biden simply because the meaning had already been made clear two months before! Bottom line is, a whole slew of people knew about the true nature of that phone call and they all endeavored to cover it up. Is it possible that they kept the call from Pence too though? They say what should have happened, but with this administration that means nothing. I’m fully willing to believe Pence is well aware of everything going on. I’m just as willing to believe proper protocols have not been followed to keep him in the dark because they know what Trump is doing is wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 9:08:55 GMT
I feel so bad for Niinistö, our president. He had to sit there and listen that grazy rant. I can't wait for his memoir. He has now met Trump several times and I bet he has some interesting stories. And Trump clearly doesn't know that us Finns like our personal space. 🙂 Did you hear him chuckle when Trump told the Reuturs(?) reporter to ask your President a question rather than answer a Ukraine question the reporter had asked Trump? And when he did as he was told and asked Niinisto a question Trump didn't even give him a chance to answer and started ranting again. It was the most bizarre press conference even for Trump.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 3, 2019 10:45:07 GMT
Has anybody seen The White House Facebook page lately? Its terrible. It's filled with political stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 11:53:43 GMT
Has anybody seen The White House Facebook page lately? Its terrible. It's filled with political stuff. That's truly despicable to have on the official White House page....what's wrong with these people? Have they no decency? Don't answer that as they obviously haven't. Nearly 19,000 likes
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Post by lizacreates on Oct 3, 2019 14:41:50 GMT
Pence’s aides had said that when he went to Poland in Sept to meet with Zelensky, Pence had no knowledge of the corruption allegations being made against Biden. If Pence had a transcript of Trump’s July call to Zelensky, then it’s impossible for him not to have known. It’d be interesting to see how they attempt to square this. Pence may not have mentioned Biden’s name in his meeting with Zelensky, but you’d have to be awfully thick not to understand that when Pence talks to you about corruption, he means the allegation against Biden simply because the meaning had already been made clear two months before! Bottom line is, a whole slew of people knew about the true nature of that phone call and they all endeavored to cover it up. Is it possible that they kept the call from Pence too though? They say what should have happened, but with this administration that means nothing. I’m fully willing to believe Pence is well aware of everything going on. I’m just as willing to believe proper protocols have not been followed to keep him in the dark because they know what Trump is doing is wrong. Fair enough. The truth will come out sooner or later. I just find it inconceivable that Pence would not be aware of the true agenda for the following reasons: (1) Before he even left for Poland, Giuliani was already boasting about his investigations re Biden’s son in Ukraine to several media outlets; (2) He is one of Trump’s most ardent defenders, but it stretches credulity to think he does not know of Trump’s documented track record of using the levers of government, intelligence and justice for his personal benefit; since when was Trump concerned about another country’s corruption when he himself is the Grand Poobah of Perfidy; (3) When a reporter asked Pence if his trip had anything to do with allegations against Biden, he answered it was about corruption in general. If he didn’t know about the true agenda at that time, why didn’t he say, “I don’t know why you’re asking me about Biden. What does he have to do with my trip?” or something like that. My tendency is to suspect he knew well and good that his assignment was to deliver an extortion demand under the guise of foreign policy. If I’m proven wrong, I will retract everything I said here and apologize.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 3, 2019 14:53:36 GMT
Is it possible that they kept the call from Pence too though? They say what should have happened, but with this administration that means nothing. I’m fully willing to believe Pence is well aware of everything going on. I’m just as willing to believe proper protocols have not been followed to keep him in the dark because they know what Trump is doing is wrong. If the aide to Pence, who was on the call, did not tell him, he has some major issues of his own.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 15:01:45 GMT
MSNBC...
”BREAKING: President Trump openly declares his recommendation that Ukraine and China investigate the Bidens.”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 15:09:19 GMT
NPR...
”NEW: President Trump says he wants Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.
“I would say President Zelenskiy, if it was me, I would start an investigation into the Bidens," Trump told reporters.”
”When asked if he had spoken to China about investigating Biden, Trump said: "I haven't, but it's certainly something we can start thinking about."
Kind of “in your face” type of comment wouldn’t you say?
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Post by sueg on Oct 3, 2019 15:14:17 GMT
NPR... ”NEW: President Trump says he wants Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. “I would say President Zelenskiy, if it was me, I would start an investigation into the Bidens," Trump told reporters.” ”When asked if he had spoken to China about investigating Biden, Trump said: "I haven't, but it's certainly something we can start thinking about." Kind of “in your face” type of comment wouldn’t you say? He has either completely lost the plot, or he just doesn’t care that he is breaking the law. Either way, he is unfit to be president.
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Post by Enna on Oct 3, 2019 15:22:40 GMT
I feel so bad for Niinistö, our president. He had to sit there and listen that grazy rant. I can't wait for his memoir. He has now met Trump several times and I bet he has some interesting stories. And Trump clearly doesn't know that us Finns like our personal space. 🙂 Did you hear him chuckle when Trump told the Reuturs(?) reporter to ask your President a question rather than answer a Ukraine question the reporter had asked Trump? And when he did as he was told and asked Niinisto a question Trump didn't even give him a chance to answer and started ranting again. It was the most bizarre press conference even for Trump. I read about. I followed the press conference by reading the Finnish news. I can't listen Trump speak anymore.
I loved the subtle shade Niinistö was throwing. He did it in his tweet this morning as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 15:25:04 GMT
I believe this is what is opening up a can of worms that could bit is all in the ass.
NPR.,
”Miami-Dade County Schools, the nation’s fourth largest school district, is suing opioid manufacturers, saying it should be compensated for the money it has spent battling the “worst man-made epidemic in modern medical history.”
I understand some drug companies were not honest in their advertising of opioid drugs. And they should be held accountable.
Problem is, the drug companies develop and manufacture drugs that aren’t opioids, drugs that keep people alive.
But if everybody and their aunt sue the hell out of these companies to the point they put them out of business or to the point they raise the prices of their other drugs even higher to pay the settlements then what?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 15:35:12 GMT
We have officially become a banana republic w/a tin pot leader who uses the apparatus of the state and the office to pursue HIS POLITICAL OPPONENTS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 15:39:02 GMT
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Post by hop2 on Oct 3, 2019 15:42:32 GMT
NPR... ”NEW: President Trump says he wants Ukraine and China to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. “I would say President Zelenskiy, if it was me, I would start an investigation into the Bidens," Trump told reporters.” ”When asked if he had spoken to China about investigating Biden, Trump said: "I haven't, but it's certainly something we can start thinking about." Kind of “in your face” type of comment wouldn’t you say? He has either completely lost the plot, or he just doesn’t care that he is breaking the law. Either way, he is unfit to be president. he has never cared wether or not he broke the law. Ever. That’s why he had a ‘fixer’ to pay people off. He’s never cared wether or not what he is doing is legal with both laws & building codes. He’s the type of builder whom if you don’t watch him like a hawk every corner is cut & every short cut taken legal or not. There are people who will not work for him no matter how much he says he’s going to pay because: 1 their reputation is worth more &2 he might not pay what he says he will anyway. He often reneged. Wether it’s legal or not has never been a concern if his if he can get away with it he will.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 3, 2019 15:49:07 GMT
(3) When a reporter asked Pence if his trip had anything to do with allegations against Biden, he answered it was about corruption in general. If he didn’t know about the true agenda at that time, why didn’t he say, “I don’t know why you’re asking me about Biden. What does he have to do with my trip?” or something like that. VERY good point. Unless he was totally ignoring his briefing book notes and TRYING to be ignorant, I have to think he knew what was going on. DT is NOT good at keeping quiet about things, and people were scurrying all over the place doing damage control... it had to be practically impossible to NOT know what was going on.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 3, 2019 15:56:02 GMT
he has never cared wether or not he broke the law. Ever. That’s why he had a ‘fixer’ to pay people off. He’s never cared wether or not what he is doing is legal with both laws & building codes. He’s the type of builder whom if you don’t watch him like a hawk every corner is cut & every short cut taken legal or not. There are people who will not work for him no matter how much he says he’s going to pay because: 1 their reputation is worth more &2 he might not pay what he says he will anyway. He often reneged. Wether it’s legal or not has never been a concern if his if he can get away with it he will. the last couple weeks of news coverage have also made it very clear that he does not understand the difference between his own identity and that of the country. He ran everything about his businesses himself, directly- so Donald Trump *was* his businesses, and his businesses *were* Donald Trump. He's trying to be President in the same way because he doesn't know how to do otherwise. He can't separate what he thinks is good for him from what is good for the country as a whole. And that is what I think is going to be his undoing- he truly can NOT see that what he is doing is illegal, unethical, immoral, and wrong. Which is why he isn't keeping it secret- he apparently really doesn't see what's wrong about any of it.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 3, 2019 16:08:00 GMT
he truly can NOT see that what he is doing is illegal, unethical, immoral, and wrong. Which is why he isn't keeping it secret- he apparently really doesn't see what's wrong about any of it. The House and Senate GOP should be able to know the difference, apparently they don't either! May they all suffer the consequences!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 3, 2019 16:16:58 GMT
I understand some drug companies were not honest in their advertising of opioid drugs. And they should be held accountable. Problem is, the drug companies develop and manufacture drugs that aren’t opioids, drugs that keep people alive. But if everybody and their aunt sue the hell out of these companies to the point they put them out of business or to the point they raise the prices of their other drugs even higher to pay the settlements then what? Unfortunately, many people today want instant gratification and do not consider the future and its accompanying consequences. They are some of the same people who also wanted instant gratification from pain and willing asked for and took strong/opioid pain medications.
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Post by thundergal on Oct 3, 2019 16:22:19 GMT
the last couple weeks of news coverage have also made it very clear that he does not understand the difference between his own identity and that of the country. He ran everything about his businesses himself, directly- so Donald Trump *was* his businesses, and his businesses *were* Donald Trump. He's trying to be President in the same way because he doesn't know how to do otherwise. He can't separate what he thinks is good for him from what is good for the country as a whole. And that is what I think is going to be his undoing- he truly can NOT see that what he is doing is illegal, unethical, immoral, and wrong. Which is why he isn't keeping it secret- he apparently really doesn't see what's wrong about any of it. I completely agree with this assessment. Initially, it's ignorance. Now it's become willful ignorance as our democracy has attempted to check him. He is learning impaired.
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Post by DEX on Oct 3, 2019 16:29:43 GMT
Is it possible that they kept the call from Pence too though? They say what should have happened, but with this administration that means nothing. I’m fully willing to believe Pence is well aware of everything going on. I’m just as willing to believe proper protocols have not been followed to keep him in the dark because they know what Trump is doing is wrong. Fair enough. The truth will come out sooner or later. I just find it inconceivable that Pence would not be aware of the true agenda for the following reasons: (1) Before he even left for Poland, Giuliani was already boasting about his investigations re Biden’s son in Ukraine to several media outlets; (2) He is one of Trump’s most ardent defenders, but it stretches credulity to think he does not know of Trump’s documented track record of using the levers of government, intelligence and justice for his personal benefit; since when was Trump concerned about another country’s corruption when he himself is the Grand Poobah of Perfidy; (3) When a reporter asked Pence if his trip had anything to do with allegations against Biden, he answered it was about corruption in general. If he didn’t know about the true agenda at that time, why didn’t he say, “I don’t know why you’re asking me about Biden. What does he have to do with my trip?” or something like that. My tendency is to suspect he knew well and good that his assignment was to deliver an extortion demand under the guise of foreign policy. If I’m proven wrong, I will retract everything I said here and apologize. Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate your thoughts. My feeling is that you will never have to apologize or retract anything.
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