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Post by mich5481 on Oct 10, 2019 21:15:17 GMT
He should have known he'd be a target and played his idol. Out of the two people who received multiple votes, I'm glad he's gone.
It will be interesting to see if the other tribe takes Noura out when they have a chance, or if people are already starting to think she'd be the perfect goat. Molly's interview from last week pretty much said what they aired was what it was like living with her.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 10, 2019 21:16:44 GMT
And what the heck did Karishma say to them that changed their votes to Vince??? The look on Rob and Sandra's face when they realized he was going home with an idol was priceless.
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Post by mich5481 on Oct 10, 2019 21:17:18 GMT
My thoughts: - why didn't we see what Vince told the tribe about what happened at IOI or if he and Elizabeth spoke to each other about it?
- I hated the whole scene where Karishma cut herself and NO ONE seemed to care?!
- I liked Tom until last night, but saw a different side of him that I really don't like
- Missy, Janet and Lauren are my favorites right now
- loved the challenge
- hate that IOI is taking time from getting to know the players better
In his interview with Dalton, he said he did talk to Elizabeth. I imagine it was cut for time. I wonder if that's part of the reason why she went with the plan to get rid of him. I could see him inadvertently spilling the beans at some point.
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 10, 2019 21:51:56 GMT
I was super mad when NO ONE from the tribe helped Karishma.. my DD was pissed too. Even if I didn't like someone I wouldn't just sit there.. She even said she could see her bone. I just don't understand it.
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Post by AmandaA on Oct 10, 2019 22:21:42 GMT
That whole deal with Karishma was odd. If she was cut that badly, why wasn’t she seen by medical and sewn up? I can’t imagine that was cut for time because they always love teasing and playing up a medical emergency in an episode. And if I cut myself that badly you can bet you would have heard me either cussing so loudly or screaming that you could not have been oblivious to the fact something was wrong. That whole scene was just weird to me.
DH and I could hardly watch the IOI challenge when he had to sneak into their camp. I was so nervous for him 🙈. I imagined someone getting spooked and hitting the poor guy over the head with a blunt object. And to think he went through all of that for nothing!
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Post by tanya2 on Oct 10, 2019 22:48:54 GMT
that scene with Karishma felt very weird to me too, like it was oddly edited or something. I bet she wasn't really being ignored, they just made it look that way to make more sense about why she was being voted out
Vince really got on my nerves for some reason. I wasn't sorry to see him go. I think he didn't play his idol because Rob & Sandra had talked to him so much about not playing based on emotions & paranoia
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Post by alsomsknit on Oct 10, 2019 23:09:48 GMT
About Karishma...How many were aware she hurt herself? She wasn’t being obvious about being hurt. And, it seemed more like she was speaking toward the cameras. Through it all, she was rather quiet. And, it looked like she was in the midst of prayer or something when she was trying not to pass out.
Has she been so ‘They hate me. I’m different and they won’t be my friend.’ Through the whole show. That was ridiculously annoying. I wanted he gone just for all the damn whining.
Missed last week. Which one was Molly? Dad couldn’t tell me.
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Post by mich5481 on Oct 10, 2019 23:12:49 GMT
About Karishma...How many were aware she hurt herself? She wasn’t being obvious about being hurt. And, it seemed more like she was speaking toward the cameras. Through it all, she was rather quiet. And, it looked like she was in the midst of prayer or something when she was trying not to pass out. Has she been so ‘They hate me. I’m different and they won’t be my friend.’ Through the whole show. That was ridiculously annoying. I wanted he gone just for all the damn whining. Missed last week. Which one was Molly? Dad couldn’t tell me. She was on the other tribe - had the beautiful curly hair. They voted her out because they thought she had too much control over 2 of the alpha males and she was "Pavarti 2.0". Noura made it into a whole revenge of the nerds deal.
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Post by alsomsknit on Oct 11, 2019 0:07:11 GMT
About Karishma...How many were aware she hurt herself? She wasn’t being obvious about being hurt. And, it seemed more like she was speaking toward the cameras. Through it all, she was rather quiet. And, it looked like she was in the midst of prayer or something when she was trying not to pass out. Has she been so ‘They hate me. I’m different and they won’t be my friend.’ Through the whole show. That was ridiculously annoying. I wanted he gone just for all the damn whining. Missed last week. Which one was Molly? Dad couldn’t tell me. She was on the other tribe - had the beautiful curly hair. They voted her out because they thought she had too much control over 2 of the alpha males and she was "Pavarti 2.0". Noura made it into a whole revenge of the nerds deal. Thank you.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 11, 2019 0:26:45 GMT
I totally agree with the editing! When Karishma cut herself. And then she showed up all bandaged up? ok, who did that? where did she get the bandages, and then when Vince went back to camp? no follow up on what he told everyone? what did he say? It's just ODD!! it's like they ran out of time? make the show longer then if they have that much trouble getting stuff in.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 11, 2019 1:49:26 GMT
Well it's only episode 3 (4?) and I'm already annoyed at the Idols Island thing... I hate that they're only having one challenge that combines both reward and immunity, and I'm sure it's because of the Island. I want two challenges!
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Post by birukitty on Oct 11, 2019 22:22:30 GMT
My thoughts on this episode. First I was very impressed with Vince on his Idol island challenge. He had the most difficult challenge so far and he accomplished it! I thought it was sweet how he was so overcome meeting his heros. Karishma bugged the crap out of me for most of the episode. She whined and complained, and couldn't make up her mind to save her life. First she's on camera saying how she's Indian and in her culture the women keep covered up-they don't go around in their underwear like the women in her tribe were when they were playing in the water. Next thing you saw was Karishma on the beach and water in her underwear. Then Vince is talking to her about who they should vote out that night after the challenge since everyone's gunning for her since she bombed on the puzzle. He's trying to help her by targeting another person and getting the all girl's alliance to all vote for someone else-Tom-the older guy. But again, she can't make up her mind. She tells him "I'm too old to be here-I don't belong here".
And what happens? Poor Vince gets voted out! Okay, yeah he should have played his idol! It was only good for that tribal council and the next. I guess he felt so sure in his alliance with the all woman's alliance that he got too comfortable. That's a lesson to be learned in Survivor. I feel sorry for Vince. I do not care for Karishma. As far as her injury goes she certainly did cut her hand but I don't believe she cut it down to the bone. That's too serious of an injury I think for just a small bandage like she was wearing. The bandage came from medical. I think when she did it medical came in, checked her out, cleaned it up and gave her stitches if needed and that's probably when everyone gathered around her making sure she was okay. Usually they are very close nearby. I think all of that got edited out. She was already feeling like an outcast before the injury happened so I think her sitting there with her head down while her tribemates ignored her must have happened after medical left. They were letting her rest while she was whining that they were all ignoring her. That is what makes the most logical sense to me. I've watched every episode and season of Survivor since it started twice and I've never seen a tribemate igored when they've sustained an injury, have you?
I agree with the rest of you-I hate having only one challenge that combines immunity and reward. It's the Idol Island that's taking away all of the time, and I guess we're stuck with it this season. Did we really have to waste time seeing Sandra teaching Vince how to crawl through the sand or hide behind a palm? To me that was a waste of time.
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Post by mimi3566 on Oct 11, 2019 22:36:58 GMT
I agree they need to make the episodes longer if they are going to focus the time they are on IOI's....I like the concept but am also missing out on getting to know camp life and the players.
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Post by ametallichick on Oct 13, 2019 6:43:17 GMT
I think this season, so far, is a snooze fest! 😴 I was glad to see Vince go. He was annoying. I thought all the crawling in the sand at IOI was stupid too! I felt bad for Karashma (I don’t know if that’s spelled correctly) at first but now that I’m reading all of your replies, I kind of agree. I think the editing must’ve just been odd. I told my dh that I’d be happy with an old-fashioned Survivor.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 13, 2019 15:30:42 GMT
My thoughts: - why didn't we see what Vince told the tribe about what happened at IOI or if he and Elizabeth spoke to each other about it?
- I hated the whole scene where Karishma cut herself and NO ONE seemed to care?!
- I liked Tom until last night, but saw a different side of him that I really don't like
- Missy, Janet and Lauren are my favorites right now
- loved the challenge
- hate that IOI is taking time from getting to know the players better
In his interview with Dalton, he said he did talk to Elizabeth. I imagine it was cut for time. I wonder if that's part of the reason why she went with the plan to get rid of him. I could see him inadvertently spilling the beans at some point. I'll have to go look for the interview. Did he tell her he had an idol? I could see her targeting him both because he knows what the IOI is about and if she knew he had an idol. There has to be a reason they spent so much time on Karishma's injury and the edit they gave it (everyone ignoring her, etc.). My prediction is either she is next to go or somehow this plays into a longer term theme/story for the season.
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Post by mich5481 on Oct 13, 2019 16:19:23 GMT
In his interview with Dalton, he said he did talk to Elizabeth. I imagine it was cut for time. I wonder if that's part of the reason why she went with the plan to get rid of him. I could see him inadvertently spilling the beans at some point. I'll have to go look for the interview. Did he tell her he had an idol? I could see her targeting him both because he knows what the IOI is about and if she knew he had an idol. There has to be a reason they spent so much time on Karishma's injury and the edit they gave it (everyone ignoring her, etc.). My prediction is either she is next to go or somehow this plays into a longer term theme/story for the season. He said he told them he lost his vote. It should be the top article here: www.ew.com/survivorI wonder if Karishma was overreacting? If she really cut herself to the bone, I highly doubt she would still be in the game, due to risk of infection. I'm thinking that's why she was on the puzzle duty - that way she could avoid being in the water for the challenge. I'm not a doctor, but I'm betting she was seeing tendons (still freaky) instead of bone when she sliced her hand. Also, she could have been really quiet, and the rest of the tribe didn't realize how much pain she was in. Maybe this is TMI, but I am a really quiet barfer. I've barfed in public a few times (one was after a concussion and the others were a sudden onset of illness), and no one around me knew, until they saw a bunch of vomit. LOL, the time after my concussion, I was in a class with a student teacher, and when he noticed it, he didn't know what to do! 😂 He just stared with an open mouth until my regular teacher told him to keep teaching while she called for a custodian and she took me to the nurse's office where she waited until I was picked up.
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Post by jackie on Oct 17, 2019 9:19:23 GMT
Didn’t get around to posting last week but really agreed with you guys: I was appalled that everyone was ignoring Karisma when she cut herself, I was sad to see Vince go (thought that was the wrong move) and I find Karshma unpleasant and would like to see her go. Also, don’t believe she “cut herself to the bone”. Oh, and I’m starting to worry about separate reward challenges too. The first 3-5 episodes usually only have one challenge, but we’re getting to the point where we should now have reward challenges. They are my favorite so if Rob and Sandra’s presence replace them I will be very angry. I’m still sore about Survivor doing away with the auction.i LOVE the auction!
Okay, so this week. Karishma continues to get on my nerves. Suck it up girl and start working to be part of the tribe. I liked it when someone asked about whether she might have an HII and Dean said “no way, she never leaves the campsite”. She just seems very lazy and self-pitying.
Noura continues to annoy on the other tribe. I love how she came up with that big story about why she had to be the caller. Then she was so bad at it in their practice. The BEST part was when not only her tribe didn’t let her call, but they had her sit out! Awesome! Now they know she was lying when she said if she told them what the challenge was she HAD to be caller. Jason, who was the caller instead, did a great job and since he’d been on the outs earlier, it was a great way to get back into the tribe’s good graces. Even though Elizabeth’s tribe lost, I thought she did a good job too. Her tribemates were not good direction followers though.
Okay, so the team I wanted to win lost. I was bummed. I didn’t agree with getting rid of Dean or especially Chelsea. I don’t understand why Missy wanted to keep Karishma. She says something about having Karishma in her pocket. I don’t think that’s true. Karishma is a baby and a loose cannon with no tribe loyalties. THEN, Missy proceeds to scold Karishma at TC. I agreed with what she said, but saying it to her was dumb. Let’s humiliate the person you think is in your pocket. I really like Missy a lot. She’s playing hard and has a good head on her shoulders but I think she’s a little too harsh and she’s going to alienate people. I don’t like her teaming up with that guy either. I wish she had stayed more true to the girls’ alliance and not voted out Chelsea. Second person to go home with an idol in their pocket. Yikes!
The swap will be pretty interesting next week. I’m looking forward to seeing how the new dynamics work. Please keep Elaine and lifeguard lady safe.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 17, 2019 11:40:37 GMT
I'm really not liking this season at all! At first I thought it had some potential because of not having Rob and Sandra actually compete. But I HATE HATE HATE that they're not having two challenges because of the time spent on those two. It's not even that interesting now after the first few times. I turned it off last night after the challenge because I don't really care about the voting since I'm not invested in anyone.
Do the other players still not know about Sandra and Rob? I know the first few to go there didn't tell anyone, but then I stopped paying close attention... Eventually it will have to get out, won't it? I was hoping that they could do two challenges and just show a bit of the person arriving at Idols Island, but not so much talking.
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Post by jackie on Oct 17, 2019 12:40:50 GMT
Oh gosh, I’m really enjoying this season! Other than the stupid Rob and Sandra twist, it feels more like old school survivor. I love that the players seem like regular folk. We have lots of diversity and not a bunch of fake boobs and over-white teeth bee hopping around the island. Also, the players seem like fans who came to really play and not people who were recruited in a bar. Every vote off so far I think has been a blind side.
The challenges have been good and interesting characters to root for and against are emerging. So far no huge villains, but I’m okay with that. Some of the villains in the past have seemed manufactured.
I could do without the Rob and Sandra thing. It’s not as bad as I thought it would be, but it adds nothing to the game and I’d rather see that time spent on something else. If they don’t do/show separate reward challenges due to this twist, then I’ll be very mad. But we have to remember, separate reward challenges almost never exist in the first few episodes. It’s still early enough that I believe we’ll have them soon. We’ll see soon enough.
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Post by AmandaA on Oct 17, 2019 12:57:09 GMT
I am really enjoying it too. I didn’t have any strong feelings one way or another about the Rob/Sandra deal. I am enjoying hearing their 3rd party commentary on the players and the game though... like their observations about Noura as a player last night and the commentary they share in their hut at tribal. Sure there are other twists or surprises I would like to see in the game, but this one beats another season of same old same old IMO.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 17, 2019 15:25:24 GMT
I'm loving parts of this season and hating others.
I love that the alliances are fluid and some players that I thought would go a long way are gone already. I was more surprised that Dean was the initial target over Chelsea, but thought they were right to target a developing couple. It makes way more strategic sense IMHO to target someone you see as a longterm threat than someone like Karishma. I was a little more surprised that everyone was in on the vote than it was Chelsea that went home.
Oh, Noura. I died laughing when she was the one who sat out the challenge.
I'm completely bored with Rob & Sandra, so much that I wandered off to fold laundry during the IOI segment last night. I do enjoy watching them watching tribal council, but really don't think they are teaching anyone much about the game and would much rather get to know the current players better.
Looking forward to the shake up next week.
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Post by mich5481 on Oct 17, 2019 15:27:55 GMT
I'm a little surprised how Missy is decimating her own girls alliance by first getting rid of Vince and then Chelsea.
I think next week will be interesting, especially if Noura and Karishma wind up on the same tribe.
I think Noura was an idiot for not even thinking through the test - I'd at least hold out for an idol over a potential advantage.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 17, 2019 17:31:46 GMT
I think the whole Rob and Sandra thing is silly. I really don't think they are teaching them anything. It's just a bit. Them talking during the counsel is about the best thing. That's it. And I agree, a waste of time, vs learning about the players.
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Post by birukitty on Oct 19, 2019 1:55:12 GMT
Didn’t get around to posting last week but really agreed with you guys: I was appalled that everyone was ignoring Karisma when she cut herself, I was sad to see Vince go (thought that was the wrong move) and I find Karshma unpleasant and would like to see her go. Also, don’t believe she “cut herself to the bone”. Oh, and I’m starting to worry about separate reward challenges too. The first 3-5 episodes usually only have one challenge, but we’re getting to the point where we should now have reward challenges. They are my favorite so if Rob and Sandra’s presence replace them I will be very angry. I’m still sore about Survivor doing away with the auction.i LOVE the auction! Okay, so this week. Karishma continues to get on my nerves. Suck it up girl and start working to be part of the tribe. I liked it when someone asked about whether she might have an HII and Dean said “no way, she never leaves the campsite”. She just seems very lazy and self-pitying. Noura continues to annoy on the other tribe. I love how she came up with that big story about why she had to be the caller. Then she was so bad at it in their practice. The BEST part was when not only her tribe didn’t let her call, but they had her sit out! Awesome! Now they know she was lying when she said if she told them what the challenge was she HAD to be caller. Jason, who was the caller instead, did a great job and since he’d been on the outs earlier, it was a great way to get back into the tribe’s good graces. Even though Elizabeth’s tribe lost, I thought she did a good job too. Her tribemates were not good direction followers though. Okay, so the team I wanted to win lost. I was bummed. I didn’t agree with getting rid of Dean or especially Chelsea. I don’t understand why Missy wanted to keep Karishma. She says something about having Karishma in her pocket. I don’t think that’s true. Karishma is a baby and a loose cannon with no tribe loyalties. THEN, Missy proceeds to scold Karishma at TC. I agreed with what she said, but saying it to her was dumb. Let’s humiliate the person you think is in your pocket. I really like Missy a lot. She’s playing hard and has a good head on her shoulders but I think she’s a little too harsh and she’s going to alienate people. I don’t like her teaming up with that guy either. I wish she had stayed more true to the girls’ alliance and not voted out Chelsea. Second person to go home with an idol in their pocket. Yikes! The swap will be pretty interesting next week. I’m looking forward to seeing how the new dynamics work. Please keep Elaine and lifeguard lady safe. Agree with everything you said above Jackie and so glad to see you back after missing last week. I too am getting annoyed and do not like Karishma. I don't get her at all. You know you are disliked by your tribemates and on the outs so instead of sitting down constantly feeling sorry for yourself with a constant frown and unpleasant look on your face basically broadcasting to the rest of your tribe, "Stay away from me", why aren't you doing something to help yourself? Get off your butt and work towards at least establishing some kind of friendship with one person. Plaster a smile on your face, do a lot of camp work and act friendly towards everyone in your tribe. At the very least go and try to find an idol. But no, she's just sitting in the same spot and throwing herself the biggest pity party anyone has ever seen. If I were a member of that tribe I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. And it's not like she's so terrific in challenges either physically or in puzzles. To me she was the most logical vote. Breaking up what was starting to be a couple was important sure, but in my mind Karishma is a more dangerous player since she obviously has no loyalty to the tribe. Plus Chelsea was a better help in challenges. Personally I think they voted the wrong person out. I like Missy too. She's an amazing athlete and has a good head on her shoulders, but I think she is beginning to play too agressively and is not thinking things out clearly before jumping to choices. I hope the tribe swap will refocus her. The thing she said about Karishma being in her pocket was silly especially after then berating her in public at tribal. If you think someone is in your pocket great-you keep silent so you can build that power. Personally I don't think anyone has Karishma anywhere. Like Jackie mentioned she's a loose cannon. Do you all realize we didn't even have a reward challenge this week? It was just an immunity challenge. Ugh! I too am tired of what we are all missing because of the time the IOI is taking from our regular Survial. I find it boring and because I cannot stand Rob or Sandra and their overbloated egos this part of each week seems silly to me. I watch it and I am grateful that they are not on more than they are-but I do think this idea from the producers (and probably Jeff-he loves Rob and Sandra) is a fail. Maybe that's just me because of my dislike for these two people. I read a bit online last week about Jeff thinking this is a huge success-IOI and Rob and Sandra's part. Noura-she did such a terrible job trying to explain to her tribe how and why she had to be the caller at the next challenge. Then when they practiced they could all tell how horrible she would be at the challenge. Even Rob and Sandra would tell that after just meeting her and talking to her. I have to give big Kudos to her tribe for what they were able to accomplish by pulling the rug out from under her at the last minute when they insisted she sit out for the challenge! Boy was she surprised. I feel sorry for her but it amazes me how someone can be so unselfaware. Is that a word? My spell check all of a sudden stopped working last week so I don't know-it certainly doesn't look right but you all know what I mean. Other than the Rob and Sandra bit I too am really enjoying this season. I very much appreciate that we are having a very diverse, every day sort of crowd of folks competing without the typical blondes with fake big boobs and manufactured villians of the past. I hope this part continues-obviously not the Rob and Sandra part. I can't wait until next week when they have the tribe swap. I really, really hope Karishma gets voted out soon because when someone is like that I feel like they don't deserve to be there.
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Post by mnmloveli on Oct 23, 2019 1:41:51 GMT
Loving this season too ! Looking forward to tomorrow night’s episode.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 24, 2019 0:59:14 GMT
ok....SERIOUSLY??
are these people that dumb? not to vote Karishma out again? I don't get it. She sucks at everything,,,but they still keep her? so odd.
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Post by jackie on Oct 24, 2019 2:17:17 GMT
Okay, everyone can stop their bitchin’...lol, we’ve had our first separate reward challenge.
So, the tribe swap was a good one. I like to see a nice mix-up. The reward challenge was a toughie. I’ve seen that snake in the sand challenge before and it looks like torture! Who the hell decided to put Karishma in there for the physical part? Even if puzzles aren’t her strong suit, at least she won’t drag the whole tribe down like she did with the physical challenge.
So, the other tribe easily won. The contestants are finally getting some yummy food and drink. And while it all looked delicious, especially to people living off of small portions of boiled rice, when I heard Jeff say that it’s a “once in a lifetime reward” I had to laugh. Come on Jeff!
I felt very bad for Tom and Dean having to plead for their lives when Karishma is such a waste of space. And it seemed like she was really cocky. Like she knew she was safe because she trashed her old tribe so much that she just assumed the new tribe would welcome her in. And they did.
The immunity challenge was a good one. I always love a water challenge. Once again Karishma was dragging her tribe down. Did anyone else hear when Jeff called her out from dragging again how she yelled out “I am NOT Jeff!” Yes, you are and you really shouldn’t be wasting your energy arguing with the host. Gosh she annoys me. Once again they lose, but I was quite impressed at how close they made it. Thanks mostly to Dean.
Back at the beach it was hard to tell who they were going to vote out. I had a feeling they would be keeping Karishma and sadly, that’s what they did.
Like Cindy, I think their decision was so stupid. They already have the numbers advantage, so they can pick off anyone they like. They are losing challenges left and right so they need a strong tribe. Karishma is pure dead weight. I will never uderstand that decision.
A couple notes at TC: Until Sandra and Rob climbed into their hut I had forgotten about that twist! Thank God we were spared the trip to the island this time. Their commentary from their hut though, I do enjoy. What was with that insane bout of laughter from Noura? That woman is ODD!
Okay, can someone tell me what the preview for next week was? They didn’t show it here for some reason dammit!
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 24, 2019 2:41:33 GMT
Jackie I agree with everything you posted!!
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Post by finaledition on Oct 24, 2019 4:21:16 GMT
ok....SERIOUSLY?? are these people that dumb? not to vote Karishma out again? I don't get it. She sucks at everything,,,but they still keep her? so odd. Agree 100%. I think everyone is now so caught up in making the big play that they forgot that if you have an anchor on your team preventing you from winning challenges, vote them off than you can play strategically. Karishma makes my list of 10 players I’d never want to be stuck on an island with.
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Post by stampinchick on Oct 24, 2019 4:25:12 GMT
Karishma may be the deadest weight I've ever seen on any tribe. But after hearing her talk about her life tonight I feel sorry for her and I hope they show more of her talking about her family and marriage. I think her performance in challenges reflects what her life has been like - she's been told that she's worthless. And how sad to hear her say that the way her family thought of her up until her wedding day and the way they thought of her after she was married was so different. She has a lot of cultural baggage to deal with and while I hate to see her drag down an entire team, I hope she can get a boost of confidence somehow and go home willing to make changes even if it's culturally unacceptable.
I don't remember ever seeing that crawling challenge before. That was horrible!
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