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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 27, 2019 18:20:15 GMT
I would be SHOCKED if we don't see his name on a presidential ballot in the coming decade. We will need to remind other of what he has done for the last years with Moscow Mitch!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2019 18:46:23 GMT
My BIL will do that shit—either make outrageous claims or try to instigate arguments.
I tell him that I am not his personal secretary, nor Wikipedia, nor any researcher at his disposal or when he’s trying to make claims or prove shit. Told him to learn to educate himself and bring the receipts to his argument.
I see it from him and other trumpers who expect you to do all the looking up to prove (disprove) their point.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 27, 2019 18:59:53 GMT
I’m sure a lot of “rumors” are true. But some may not be.
Did he bankrupt many if his businesses? YES. Proven fact.
Did he refuse to pay many contractors, service providers, vendors for work and/or goods? Yes, proven fact (and he’s still doing it. His 2016 campaign STILL owes $$$$$ to several police departments for security on his campaign trips).
Did his sexually assault women. YES. Their word is good enough.
Does he use the legal system/courts to bankrupt those suing him or get them to stop their suits? Yes. Proven repeatedly.
Does he bully people? Yes. Proven daily by his own hand.
Does he speak in word salad, jumbled, incoherent talk? You betcha, we see that too almost daily.
Has he circumvented the law and norms in his presidency—most definitely yes. That too we see happening in real time.
Does he lie. Absolutely yes. Proven daily.
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Post by jackietex on Sept 28, 2019 2:46:33 GMT
The thing is, Trump supporters refuse to believe anything that is not in his favor. Republicans are still saying that it was proven that there was "no collusion, no obstruction" and that there was no quid pro quo. It makes me wonder if they would believe Trump if he came out and admitted to these crimes himself.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2019 3:18:56 GMT
It makes me wonder if they would believe Trump if he came out and admitted to these crimes himself. Probably not. They would say he said it to make someone happy or some other strange thing. OR, he did it that way because those people interfered!
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 28, 2019 20:36:12 GMT
Also, I wonder what Trump and his die-hard followers will do if Fox turns on him? I mean, since Trump and his followers (at least the ones I know) think that Fox is the only station that reports REAL news rather than fake news. Should be interesting to see how they spin that one.
they will call Ryan a RINO and turn on him asap
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Post by dewryce on Sept 28, 2019 21:01:46 GMT
Does anyone else find this a sad statement on what our government has become:
"Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it,"
Really, he has more power to do something about Trump now that he is on the board of a tv station than he had when he was the Speaker of the House??
Also, I wonder what Trump and his die-hard followers will do if Fox turns on him? I mean, since Trump and his followers (at least the ones I know) think that Fox is the only station that reports REAL news rather than fake news. Should be interesting to see how they spin that one.
Some of them are already turning on Fox because of the comments by Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. They are turning to OAN.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2019 21:07:45 GMT
Paul Ryan embarrassed himself long ago. He didn't care enough about our country to stand up to a bully!
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 28, 2019 21:18:24 GMT
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Post by PLurker on Sept 28, 2019 22:17:57 GMT
Paul Ryan is a coward who is trying to make himself and his party look palatable when Trump is finally gone. make no mistake, his policy record as a congressperson was just as awful as anything Donald Trump has done as president, minus the criminal activities (as far as we know...). I would be SHOCKED if we don't see his name on a presidential ballot in the coming decade. Totally agree. I can't stand this guy. I think he's trying to lie low for now and distance himself a bit, wait for all of this to blow over, and then he'll rise again, ready to save us all. Coward is an excellent descriptive term for Paul Ryan. he's jumping ship just as he thinks it's about to go under. Coward. Are we supposed to forget he was an exuberant ass-kiss high ranking crew member of the same ship not too long ago? Please. I'm just glad he left Wisconsin, at least for now.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 28, 2019 23:30:22 GMT
go to snopes and type in Trump in the search box Why the heck didn't I think of that??? Thanks! I don't know what is going through DH's head. I still haven't told him I switched to the Democrat party three months ago because I don't want to listen to "I can't stand Trump either, he's a horrible person, but....." comments.
I think he is turning a lot of people. Seriously he has ruined the party. Luckily I know very few that still support him. I can't stand to listen to him then again I feel that way about most politicians. I think a lot of times he truly does misspeak but the constant bragging is so high school and annoying. I was so over that before the last election. He opens his mouth and I just want to say really have you learned nothing.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 28, 2019 23:34:49 GMT
Paul Ryan embarrassed himself long ago. He didn't care enough about our country to stand up to a bully!
Yes when he was falling all over himself to get a pen when Trump was signing stuff after he was sworn in - it was sickening. Seriously kissing up to him and I just didn't get it. I was never a fan of his but that just sealed the deal that he was a complete fake and out to get what he could.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 18:20:37 GMT
I am from New York. Everything that is told about trump through the 80’s is true. I second that!!! We could be here all day just discussing his lies and scams from the mid 1970's until he became President (& up until today, every day!!!!). His pattern of scamming people, suing them, not paying people who actually did work for him, hiring undocumented citizens to build his buildings (back in the day) & then not paying them bc he knew they couldn't come forward and demand payment; hiring undocumented workers for his golf courses & Vineyard (& God know where else), and then having them go to his person to obtain falsified ID for taxes... Not paying his taxes ; making backroom deals with gov't officials to evade the law (Trump 'Soho); his connections with criminal Russians; his endless affairs while he was married; his abuse of girls and women; his sexualization of his own daughter... This just barely scratches the surface.
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