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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 12:54:39 GMT
If trump’s call to the President of Ukraine was “perfect” why is he doing this? What is he hiding?
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”BREAKING: An attorney for Ambassador Gordon Sondland says the State Department has directed Sondland not to appear for his scheduled interview before a joint House committee taking depositions in the impeachment probe of President Trump.”
“The Latest: Lawyer says Sondland barred from House panel”
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on envoy Gordon Sondland’s scheduled testimony on Capitol Hill (all times local):
8:25 a.m.
An attorney for Ambassador Gordon Sondland says the State Department has directed Sondland not to appear for his scheduled interview before a joint House committee taking depositions in the impeachment probe of President Donald Trump.
Sondland is wrapped up in the congressional impeachment inquiry and had previously agreed to appear voluntarily Tuesday to answer the committee’s questions in a closed session.
Sondland attorney Robert Luskin says that as the sitting U.S. ambassador to the European Union and an employee of the State Department, Sondland is required to follow the department’s direction. No reason for the direction was cited, he said.
Luskin says Sondland “is profoundly disappointed that he will not be able to testify.”
Luskin says Sondland “believes strongly that he acted at all times in the best interests of the United States.”
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An envoy wrapped up in a congressional impeachment inquiry was a late convert to President Donald Trump, initially supporting another candidate in the Republican primary and once refusing to participate in a fundraiser on his behalf.
But Gordon Sondland nonetheless donated $1 million to Trump’s election effort and ultimately scored a plum post as U.S. ambassador to the European Union.
Now, a whistleblower’s complaint and text messages released by another envoy portray Sondland as a potentially important witness to allegations the Republican president sought to dig up dirt on rival Joe Biden in the name of foreign policy.
On Tuesday, Sondland is scheduled to head to Capitol Hill to face questions about the episode.
Until last week, Sondland was far better known in his home state of Washington than in the nation’s capital.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 12:58:09 GMT
David Axelrod...
”The WH can’t afford to allow Sondland’s testimony because he can connect the dots between suspended military aid for Ukraine and @realdonaldtrump pressure on Zelensky for @joebiden probe. They would rather court an obstruction count in impeachment articles.”
Can we have “No drama Obama” back. Please.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 8, 2019 13:21:59 GMT
Luskin says Sondland “is profoundly disappointed that he will not be able to testify.” Luskin says Sondland “believes strongly that he acted at all times in the best interests of the United States.” Then get some balls and testify. He is worried about his reputation? dt will take him down. He will be remembered for NOT standing up and doing what is right. He does not need this job ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 13:27:46 GMT
MSNBC...
”Sen. Murphy: "FYI the State Department doesn’t keep these people under lock and key. Gordon Sondland is an adult - he can obey the law and testify if he wants. We shouldn’t let him or anyone else get away with blaming their violation of the law on Pompeo."
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 8, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
MSNBC... ”Sen. Murphy: "FYI the State Department doesn’t keep these people under lock and key. Gordon Sondland is an adult - he can obey the law and testify if he wants. We shouldn’t let him or anyone else get away with blaming their violation of the law on Pompeo." For some reason I don't think he received a subpoena, but I bet he will get one soon. dt does this, because he can. No one is stopping him, for now not even the democrats!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 14:06:03 GMT
trump...
”I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public....”
”to see. Importantly, Ambassador Sondland’s tweet, which few report, stated, “I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind.” That says it ALL!”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 14:08:50 GMT
Neera Tanden..
”Sondland refusing to testify right after it’s revealed that he talked to Trump before his shush text basically is a giant sign he’s an additional witness to the quid pro quo.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 8, 2019 14:11:52 GMT
trump... ”I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public....””to see. Importantly, Ambassador Sondland’s tweet, which few report, stated, “I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind.” That says it ALL!” Well then fine, he can testify in PUBLIC for all to see that he can say what he wants to say! Not sure what he means about " where Republican's right have been taken away"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 14:12:02 GMT
Adam Klasfeld..
”Sondland is the one who told Bill Taylor to switch to the phone after the latter texted that it was “crazy” to withhold security assistance to Ukraine to help Trump’s presidential campaign.
Trump apparently made sure Sondland didn’t testify about that call.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 8, 2019 14:13:18 GMT
Neera Tanden.. ”Sondland refusing to testify right after it’s revealed that he talked to Trump before his shush text basically is a giant sign he’s an additional witness to the quid pro quo.” Of course!! Took him 5 hours to respond to Bill Taylor and now we know why!!!!
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Post by quinlove on Oct 8, 2019 14:20:27 GMT
To answer the thread question - he’s doing it because he’s guilty. Of this and much more. Lock Him Up !
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 8, 2019 14:35:37 GMT
trump... ”I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public....””to see. Importantly, Ambassador Sondland’s tweet, which few report, stated, “I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind.” That says it ALL!” Well then fine, he can testify in PUBLIC for all to see that he can say what he wants to say! Not sure what he means about " where Republican's right have been taken away" Their whole strategy is to convince their supporters that they should be fearful of Democrats. In the email Trump sent out to supporters yesterday, he said that the investigation is a COUP, the "do nothing Democrats" should be focusing on building up our country instead of wasting everyone's time and energy on this BS Impeachment Scam, etc." "They are willing to hurt the country , with only the 2020 election in mind. It's disgusting!" "Their goal has always been to silence YOU (with my name then inserted). They want to steal your vote and your voice. Ultimately, they want to STEAL THIS ELECTION!" Later..."The left wants to take away your vote, your freedoms, your second amendment, your religion, military, border wall, and your God give rights as a citizen of the United States of America."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 19:58:34 GMT
If trump’s call to the President of Ukraine was “perfect” why is he doing this? but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public When, among other things, you have people like Adam Schiff creating a parody of what Trump said in order to create the impression that he actually said those twisted words, you're not dealing with rational, truthful people, so you will not get the truth from this. I hope they do impeach his ass, then we can hold a trial in the senate and call Comey, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Simpson, Brazile, Holder, Lynch, Steele, Hillary, Brennan, McCabe, Clapper, Obama, etc... all to testify, under oath and reveal the corruption from both sides.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 20:55:12 GMT
If trump’s call to the President of Ukraine was “perfect” why is he doing this? but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public When, among other things, you have people like Adam Schiff creating a parody of what Trump said in order to create the impression that he actually said those twisted words, you're not dealing with rational, truthful people, so you will not get the truth from this. I hope they do impeach his ass, then we can hold a trial in the senate and call Comey, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Simpson, Brazile, Holder, Lynch, Steele, Hillary, Brennan, McCabe, Clapper, Obama, etc... all to testify, under oath and reveal the corruption from both sides. First. Are you Gia? I don’t know, but I would like to believe if Gia decided to come back to the board she would be upfront about it and not a sneak. Second, if trump has nothing to hide, he should be forthcoming and allow the various individuals to testify regardless of how Schiff presented trump’s comments. The important thing for trump is to prove he has done nothing wrong nor does he have anything to hide. But I have to say, I posted part of trump’s transcript on the catch all thread and it does sound like something a mafia boss would say. As to your little rant, careful you are sounding a lot like the nut sitting in the White House with his outbursts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 21:08:07 GMT
When, among other things, you have people like Adam Schiff creating a parody of what Trump said in order to create the impression that he actually said those twisted words, you're not dealing with rational, truthful people, so you will not get the truth from this. I hope they do impeach his ass, then we can hold a trial in the senate and call Comey, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Simpson, Brazile, Holder, Lynch, Steele, Hillary, Brennan, McCabe, Clapper, Obama, etc... all to testify, under oath and reveal the corruption from both sides. First. Are you Gia? I don’t know, but I would like to believe if Gia decided to come back to the board she would be upfront about it and not a sneak. Second, if trump has nothing to hide, he should be forthcoming and allow the various individuals to testify regardless of how Schiff presented trump’s comments. The important thing for trump is to prove he has done nothing wrong nor does he have anything to hide. But I have to say, I posted part of trump’s transcript on the catch all thread and it does sound like something a mafia boss would say. As to your little rant, careful you are sounding a lot like the nut sitting in the White House with his outbursts. I am lovetherain and the reason I left and came back is personal and does not make me a sneak, no matter who I was before. He can have nothing to hide and still not get a fair hearing as shown by such things as the lies coming from Schiff and the changes made to the policies of whistle blower complaints just to fit this situation, which the ICIG admitted to in its press release on Monday — directly impacted its treatment of the anti-Trump complaint filed in August.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 21:30:49 GMT
First. Are you Gia? I don’t know, but I would like to believe if Gia decided to come back to the board she would be upfront about it and not a sneak. Second, if trump has nothing to hide, he should be forthcoming and allow the various individuals to testify regardless of how Schiff presented trump’s comments. The important thing for trump is to prove he has done nothing wrong nor does he have anything to hide. But I have to say, I posted part of trump’s transcript on the catch all thread and it does sound like something a mafia boss would say. As to your little rant, careful you are sounding a lot like the nut sitting in the White House with his outbursts. I am lovetherain and the reason I left and came back is personal and does not make me a sneak, no matter who I was before. He can have nothing to hide and still not get a fair hearing as shown by such things as the lies coming from Schiff and the changes made to the policies of whistle blower complaints just to fit this situation, which the ICIG admitted to in its press release on Monday — directly impacted its treatment of the anti-Trump complaint filed in August. 1. I didn’t ask why you left or why you came back because I really don’t care. I don’t care that you have a new name. I just think someone is being less than honest if they leave the board and then come back and hide they had previously been on the board. 2. Well we won’t know will he because he has pretty much stonewalled every effort to get to the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 21:36:31 GMT
I am lovetherain and the reason I left and came back is personal and does not make me a sneak, no matter who I was before. He can have nothing to hide and still not get a fair hearing as shown by such things as the lies coming from Schiff and the changes made to the policies of whistle blower complaints just to fit this situation, which the ICIG admitted to in its press release on Monday — directly impacted its treatment of the anti-Trump complaint filed in August. 1. I didn’t ask why you left or why you came back because I really don’t care. I don’t care that you have a new name. I just think someone is being less than honest if they leave the board and then come back and hide they had previously been on the board. 2. Well we won’t know will he because he has pretty much stonewalled every effort to get to the truth. 1. There are honest reasons for not saying who I was before. 2. Impeach him and we'll all get to the truth. All of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 21:52:45 GMT
1. I didn’t ask why you left or why you came back because I really don’t care. I don’t care that you have a new name. I just think someone is being less than honest if they leave the board and then come back and hide they had previously been on the board. 2. Well we won’t know will he because he has pretty much stonewalled every effort to get to the truth. 1. There are honest reasons for not saying who I was before. 2. Impeach him and we'll all get to the truth. All of it. Chris Lu.. “ Trump WH Counsel to U.S. House: "Your inquiry lacks any legitimate constitutional foundation"Article I of U.S. Constitution:"The House of Representatives ...shall have the sole Power of Impeachment"
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Post by lucyg on Oct 8, 2019 21:56:42 GMT
First. Are you Gia? I don’t know, but I would like to believe if Gia decided to come back to the board she would be upfront about it and not a sneak. Second, if trump has nothing to hide, he should be forthcoming and allow the various individuals to testify regardless of how Schiff presented trump’s comments. The important thing for trump is to prove he has done nothing wrong nor does he have anything to hide. But I have to say, I posted part of trump’s transcript on the catch all thread and it does sound like something a mafia boss would say. As to your little rant, careful you are sounding a lot like the nut sitting in the White House with his outbursts. I am lovetherain and the reason I left and came back is personal and does not make me a sneak, no matter who I was before. He can have nothing to hide and still not get a fair hearing as shown by such things as the lies coming from Schiff and the changes made to the policies of whistle blower complaints just to fit this situation, which the ICIG admitted to in its press release on Monday — directly impacted its treatment of the anti-Trump complaint filed in August. If this press release is the one you’re referring to (issued on Monday last week), it admits no such thing. Please read it yourself, rather than listening to your biased right-wing media sources. And Adam Schiff had no intention of trying to make anyone think his made-up conversation was the real thing. It was parody, it was obviously parody, and regular, thinking people understood it was parody. Again, if you only listen to right-wing media, you only get a slanted version of the news. Or maybe you just love giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt, while always denying it to Democrats. What do we call that again? Oh, yeah! Hypocrisy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:07:29 GMT
I am lovetherain and the reason I left and came back is personal and does not make me a sneak, no matter who I was before. He can have nothing to hide and still not get a fair hearing as shown by such things as the lies coming from Schiff and the changes made to the policies of whistle blower complaints just to fit this situation, which the ICIG admitted to in its press release on Monday — directly impacted its treatment of the anti-Trump complaint filed in August. If this press release is the one you’re referring to (issued on Monday last week), it admits no such thing. Please read it yourself, rather than listening to your biased right-wing media sources. And Adam Schiff had no intention of trying to make anyone think his made-up conversation was the real thing. It was parody, it was obviously parody, and regular, thinking people understood it was parody. Again, if you only listen to right-wing media, you only get a slanted version of the news. Or maybe you just love giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt, while always denying it to Democrats. What do we call that again? Oh, yeah! Hypocrisy! If there was anything in the phone call transcript to read and make his point, Schiff wouldn't have to make up words from Trump and call them a "parody. He would just read Trump's words and make his point. What was the point in that? I thought it supposed to be serious, not open mic night.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 8, 2019 22:17:43 GMT
If this press release is the one you’re referring to (issued on Monday last week), it admits no such thing. Please read it yourself, rather than listening to your biased right-wing media sources. And Adam Schiff had no intention of trying to make anyone think his made-up conversation was the real thing. It was parody, it was obviously parody, and regular, thinking people understood it was parody. Again, if you only listen to right-wing media, you only get a slanted version of the news. Or maybe you just love giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt, while always denying it to Democrats. What do we call that again? Oh, yeah! Hypocrisy! If there was anything in the phone call transcript to read and make his point, Schiff wouldn't have to make up words from Trump and call them a "parody. He would just read Trump's words and make his point. What was the point in that? I thought it supposed to be serious, not open mic night. But it’s okay for Trump to “joke around” by publicly asking hostile nations to interfere in our elections, right? And there was enough just in the phone call summary supplied by the White House to impeach him. “I need a favor from you, though ...” Let alone what gets uncovered by the follow-up investigation, should the WH quit blocking their people from testifying and trying to claim the House doesn’t have the right to impeach him. Four more years of this crap, and we WILL be a dictatorship. Not a fake one like you people tried to pin on Obama, but a real one, where they lock up political opponents and unfriendly journalists.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:35:57 GMT
I am lovetherain and the reason I left and came back is personal and does not make me a sneak, no matter who I was before. He can have nothing to hide and still not get a fair hearing as shown by such things as the lies coming from Schiff and the changes made to the policies of whistle blower complaints just to fit this situation, which the ICIG admitted to in its press release on Monday — directly impacted its treatment of the anti-Trump complaint filed in August. If this press release is the one you’re referring to (issued on Monday last week), it admits no such thing. Please read it yourself, rather than listening to your biased right-wing media sources. And Adam Schiff had no intention of trying to make anyone think his made-up conversation was the real thing. It was parody, it was obviously parody, and regular, thinking people understood it was parody. Again, if you only listen to right-wing media, you only get a slanted version of the news. Or maybe you just love giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt, while always denying it to Democrats. What do we call that again? Oh, yeah! Hypocrisy! And btw, I don't ALWAYS give Republicans the benefit of the doubt or ALWAYS deny it to the Democrats. So no hypocrisy there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:42:46 GMT
If there was anything in the phone call transcript to read and make his point, Schiff wouldn't have to make up words from Trump and call them a "parody. He would just read Trump's words and make his point. What was the point in that? I thought it supposed to be serious, not open mic night. But it’s okay for Trump to “joke around” by publicly asking hostile nations to interfere in our elections, right? And there was enough just in the phone call summary supplied by the White House to impeach him. “I need a favor from you, though ...” Let alone what gets uncovered by the follow-up investigation, should the WH quit blocking their people from testifying and trying to claim the House doesn’t have the right to impeach him. Four more years of this crap, and we WILL be a dictatorship. Not a fake one like you people tried to pin on Obama, but a real one, where they lock up political opponents and unfriendly journalists. Was Trump claiming to be joking? I don't think he did. Asking for help in uncovering criminal behavior is not an impeachable offense, it's his damn job. And do you think that just because someone is running for office that makes them above the law?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 8, 2019 22:43:02 GMT
Bring it on Lindsey!! Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Tuesday resumed his role as President Donald Trump’s staunchest defender, and he has now revealed his plan to distract the country from House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry: Unleash Rudy Giuliani.Giuliani, who has been widely ridiculed for his string of bizarre cable news appearances in which he has ranted incoherently about assorted conspiracy theories, has claimed to have uncovered massive corruption involving former Vice President Joe Biden, although he has presented precisely zero evidence to back up his claims. In a Tuesday morning tweet, Graham said he would invite Giuliani to talk with the Senate about his purported “findings” of his investigation into the Bidens. “Given the House of Representatives’ behavior, it is time for the Senate to inquire about corruption and other improprieties involving Ukraine,” Graham wrote. “Therefore I will offer to Mr. Giuliani the opportunity to come before the Senate Judiciary Committee to inform the committee of his concerns.”Graham’s announcement was met with instant derision, as many of his followers pointed out that Giuliani’s demented cable news appearances have sapped him of any credibility he might have once enjoyed. ** www.rawstory.com/2019/10/flying-monkey-lindsey-graham-buried-in-ridicule-after-inviting-rudy-giuliani-to-rant-about-biden-in-the-senate/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1677&recip_id=304309&list_id=1
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Post by papersilly on Oct 8, 2019 22:50:33 GMT
like Adam Schiff said, let's just add this to the list of constitutional obstruction charges.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:51:19 GMT
Bring it on Lindsey!! Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) on Tuesday resumed his role as President Donald Trump’s staunchest defender, and he has now revealed his plan to distract the country from House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry: Unleash Rudy Giuliani.Giuliani, who has been widely ridiculed for his string of bizarre cable news appearances in which he has ranted incoherently about assorted conspiracy theories, has claimed to have uncovered massive corruption involving former Vice President Joe Biden, although he has presented precisely zero evidence to back up his claims. In a Tuesday morning tweet, Graham said he would invite Giuliani to talk with the Senate about his purported “findings” of his investigation into the Bidens. “Given the House of Representatives’ behavior, it is time for the Senate to inquire about corruption and other improprieties involving Ukraine,” Graham wrote. “Therefore I will offer to Mr. Giuliani the opportunity to come before the Senate Judiciary Committee to inform the committee of his concerns.”Graham’s announcement was met with instant derision, as many of his followers pointed out that Giuliani’s demented cable news appearances have sapped him of any credibility he might have once enjoyed. ** www.rawstory.com/2019/10/flying-monkey-lindsey-graham-buried-in-ridicule-after-inviting-rudy-giuliani-to-rant-about-biden-in-the-senate/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1677&recip_id=304309&list_id=1Raw Story, just short of extreme in the media bias fact check scale graphic... "Overall, we rate Raw Story Left Biased based on story selection that favors the left and Mixed for factual reporting due to half-true, false and unproven claims, as well as promotion of mild pseudoscience misinformation."
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Post by elaine on Oct 8, 2019 23:04:31 GMT
If this press release is the one you’re referring to (issued on Monday last week), it admits no such thing. Please read it yourself, rather than listening to your biased right-wing media sources. And Adam Schiff had no intention of trying to make anyone think his made-up conversation was the real thing. It was parody, it was obviously parody, and regular, thinking people understood it was parody. Again, if you only listen to right-wing media, you only get a slanted version of the news. Or maybe you just love giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt, while always denying it to Democrats. What do we call that again? Oh, yeah! Hypocrisy! And btw, I don't ALWAYS give Republicans the benefit of the doubt or ALWAYS deny it to the Democrats. So no hypocrisy there. Bwahahahaha! Complete and total bullshit. Since you have no history here on the board under a name that you claim, all we have to judge your comments on is what you have posted under this name. Which bears NO evidence to this fictional claim. You want “credit” and for people to believe what you claim about yourself? Take the time to contribute to the community. I haven’t seen you on any of the health issues threads, for example. Or relationships with family members. Or divorce issues. Or parenting issues. You are a 1-trick pony troll that doesn’t deserve the bandwidth I spent to type this out.
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Post by Merge on Oct 8, 2019 23:09:12 GMT
Apparently it's my turn to remind everyone here not to engage. Just walk away, folks.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 8, 2019 23:21:27 GMT
Rudy's possible appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee is being discussed on TV. I think it is a great idea, because he would have to answer questions from all members, not just Lindsey, to include Harris, Klobuchar, Booker!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 23:21:42 GMT
And btw, I don't ALWAYS give Republicans the benefit of the doubt or ALWAYS deny it to the Democrats. So no hypocrisy there. Bwahahahaha! Complete and total bullshit. Since you have no history here on the board under a name that you claim, all we have to judge your comments on is what you have posted under this name. Which bears NO evidence to this fictional claim. You want “credit” and for people to believe what you claim about yourself? Take the time to contribute to the community. I haven’t seen you on any of the health issues threads, for example. Or relationships with family members. Or divorce issues. Or parenting issues. You are a 1-trick pony troll that doesn’t deserve the bandwidth I spent to type this out. Apparently it's my turn to remind everyone here not to engage. Just walk away, folks. Bravo! No contribution to the discussion? Just vilify anyone with an opposing viewpoint, that'll prove you're right and they're wrong. I do participate in other places, but funny you don't hold people that your thoughts align with to the same standard. There are people you agree with that don't participate in nonpolitical threads and I don't see you telling them that, so your double standard is meaningless.
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