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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 14:14:53 GMT
CNN and MSNBC Two Guilani associates/clients arrest for campaign finance fraud.. Connected to efforts to dig up dirt on Biden in Ukraine $320,000 involved and in a segregated bank account .. unused Arrested leaving US at Aripart Airport Dulles In court today in Virginia... then on the NYC Parnas(?) and Furman(?) born in Russia and Congressman #1 mentioned in 21 page indictment. ETA: reading now Kukuskin arrested San Francisco Corriea Congressman #1 LOST his reelection in 2018. will be named soon! Sorry, I am not a typist!
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Post by lucyg on Oct 10, 2019 14:19:23 GMT
Who arrested them? Feds? Does Aripart mean airport? Thank you! I just got up, gotta get a kid out the door, you’re my first news for the day.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 14:22:55 GMT
Two Giuliani Ukraine associates arrested on campaign finance charges OCT. 10, 201901:52 Oct. 10, 2019, 9:50 AM EDT By Tom Winter and Allan Smith
Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas, two foreign-born donors who gave money to a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump, were arrested Wednesday night and face charges tied to campaign-finance violations, two law enforcement officials confirmed to NBC News.
The pair are expected to appear in federal court Thursday.
Fruman and Parnas worked with Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal attorney, Giuliani has previously said, as part of his dealings in Ukraine that involved efforts to encourage the nation to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
The Wall Street Journal was first to report on the arrests.
The Trump campaign declined to comment to NBC News. Giuliani and John Dowd, an attorney for the two men, did not immediately respond to a request for comment from NBC News.
This is a breaking news story, please check back for updates.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 14:25:31 GMT
Who arrested them? Feds? Does Aripart mean airport? Thank you! I just got up, gotta get a kid out the door, you’re my first news for the day. Yes, Yes, Hurry!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 14:28:31 GMT
READ: Indictment of two Giuliani contacts on Ukraine arrested for violating campaign finance rules Updated 10:23 AM ET, Thu October 10, 2019 Two associates of Rudy Giuliani who are linked to efforts in Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden were arrested for violating campaign finance rules.
Read the indictment:
cnn.com/2019/10/10/politics/read-indictment-giuliani-associates-arrested-campaign-finance/index.html
ETA: Congressman #1 is on Page 8 and lost his reelection 2018, will be named soon.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 14:39:28 GMT
(CNN)Two associates of Rudy Giuliani connected to efforts to dig up dirt in Ukraine on Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden were arrested Wednesday on criminal charges for violating campaign finance rules, according to a spokesman for the Southern District of New York. Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas were detained at Dulles Airport outside of Washington and are expected to appear in court in Virginia on Thursday. The investigation was conducted by federal prosecutors in New York. Parnas was Giuliani's fixer in Ukraine, introducing him to current and former officials as far back as 2018, according to CNN's reporting. They gave hundreds of thousands in donations to a Trump-allied super PAC, according to the Miami Herald. The Wall Street Journal first reported the arrests. America First Action, the super PAC, told CNN in a statement they have not used the donation made through by the men through the super PAC. "America First Action placed that contribution in a segregated bank account, it has not been used it for any purpose and the funds will remain in this segregated account until these matters are resolved," America First Action's spokeswoman Kelly Sadler said in a statement. "We take our legal obligations seriously and scrupulously comply with the law and any suggestion otherwise is false." This story is breaking and will be updated. www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/politics/guliani-client-arrested-campaign-finance/index.html
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 14:47:18 GMT
There are pics of these 2 men meeting with Don Jr. If I could find them, I'll post them.
What a mess. THIS is what Trump needs to win an election??? There's nothing on Biden. This is so sick. And he's once again involving foreign governments and his friends who have no security clearances. Desperate!!!!!
Can't wait until they catch them all and throw away the key.
I saw Tiller on from when he first left the administration and now it seems like he left because Trump was asking him to do illegal things. If I find that clip, I'll post it.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 10, 2019 15:00:22 GMT
FWIW, and that may not be much, Twitter is guessing the Congressman is Pete Sessions.
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Post by Gennifer on Oct 10, 2019 15:20:33 GMT
I’m shocked. /s
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 15:32:24 GMT
There are pics of these 2 men meeting with Don Jr. If I could find them, I'll post them. I think I saw one flash across the screen, I know not where...... He beard is unfortunately distinctive.
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Post by pilcas on Oct 10, 2019 15:36:19 GMT
I just read an article entitled “ What Happened to Rudy Giuliani?” He was our NYC mayor and was actually a decent one. Now he has turned into such a disgraceful excuse for a human being with his blatant lies and what not. I remember around the time of the presidential election he started saying how awful Hillary was as a senator that she didn’t even come to NYC following Sept. 11. Of course the papers started showing photos of the two of them touring ground zero. That’s not something you innocently forget, that’s a blatant lie and that’s all he does these days, lie for Trump and find excuses for him.
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Post by Gennifer on Oct 10, 2019 15:45:09 GMT
I just read an article entitled “ What Happened to Rudy Giuliani?” He was our NYC mayor and was actually a decent one. Now he has turned into such a disgraceful excuse for a human being with his blatant lies and what not. I remember around the time of the presidential election he started saying how awful Hillary was as a senator that she didn’t even come to NYC following Sept. 11. Of course the papers started showing photos of the two of them touring ground zero. That’s not something you innocently forget, that’s a blatant lie and that’s all he does these days, lie for Trump and find excuses for him. Kind of makes one wonder if he was really that decent when he was mayor, or if he was just more discreet. My thinking was along these lines when I read the first article about it this morning... did I just not pay enough attention, because I always thought he was a decent guy!
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Post by pilcas on Oct 10, 2019 16:03:53 GMT
I just read an article entitled “ What Happened to Rudy Giuliani?” He was our NYC mayor and was actually a decent one. Now he has turned into such a disgraceful excuse for a human being with his blatant lies and what not. I remember around the time of the presidential election he started saying how awful Hillary was as a senator that she didn’t even come to NYC following Sept. 11. Of course the papers started showing photos of the two of them touring ground zero. That’s not something you innocently forget, that’s a blatant lie and that’s all he does these days, lie for Trump and find excuses for him. Kind of makes one wonder if he was really that decent when he was mayor, or if he was just more discreet. My thinking was along these lines when I read the first article about it this morning... did I just not pay enough attention, because I always thought he was a decent guy! Let me just clarify my use of the word decent was not in reference to his character but rather that he did a good(decent) job as a major. But he did seem like an OK person.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 10, 2019 16:16:53 GMT
Nothing to see here but a couple of covfefe boys. Move along.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 16:17:19 GMT
I just read an article entitled “ What Happened to Rudy Giuliani?” He was our NYC mayor and was actually a decent one. Now he has turned into such a disgraceful excuse for a human being with his blatant lies and what not. I remember around the time of the presidential election he started saying how awful Hillary was as a senator that she didn’t even come to NYC following Sept. 11. Of course the papers started showing photos of the two of them touring ground zero. That’s not something you innocently forget, that’s a blatant lie and that’s all he does these days, lie for Trump and find excuses for him. I have to respectfully disagree about our NY Mayor Giuliani. He was detested from the beginning and only showed a glimmer of professionalism during 9/11. We NYERS were desperate for leaders who had our interests,so we had some hope for Rudy. Unfortunately his lies and unprofessionalism took over quickly. These days,however, seem to show a very different Rudy. P.S. I remember seeing pics/video of Sen. Clinton visiting the 9/11 site during that time period.
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Post by Merge on Oct 10, 2019 16:24:52 GMT
FWIW, and that may not be much, Twitter is guessing the Congressman is Pete Sessions. Several reliable news sources reporting that now. Not surprised! I think we'll eventually find several Texas legislators got money from Russia. I'd put money on Cornyn being one of them.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 10, 2019 16:26:14 GMT
Just wait for it....
Trump/Giuliani will start taking yo Twitter saying its all a part of unfair illegal arrests because “they” the bastard democrats don’t want people to know the truth about Biden and it’s been spearheaded by Hillary and Soros is funding it and a few Obama’s thrown in for good measure. 😆🙄😆🙄
Note: they were indicted because of campaign fraud—not for investigating Biden’s
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 16:30:28 GMT
The grinning quartet.....Oh wait I'm sure Trump never heard of them. Think they've got more to answer to than just campaign funds LINK
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 10, 2019 16:46:19 GMT
Interesting that they were boarding an international flight when the were scheduled to appear before congress in less than 24 hrs. And give trump a minute...he’ll be on Twitter saying he didn’t know these guys, that they were just coffee boys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 16:47:53 GMT
There are pics of these 2 men meeting with Don Jr. If I could find them, I'll post them. Parnas’ name appeared on an invitation as part of a host committee for an event featuring Donald Trump Jr. and benefiting DeSantis’ primary campaign. The July 18 fundraiser at the Alaqua Country Club in Longwood — a small town in Central Florida — was headlined by Trump Jr. and FOX News host Jeanine Pirro. link
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 10, 2019 16:54:04 GMT
Here’s the gist of the indictment:
“Two associates of President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani pushed a GOP congressman to seek the ouster of the US ambassador to Ukraine at the same time as the associates were helping to bankroll the congressman's campaign, according to a federal indictment and campaign finance records.
The indictment of Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, which was unsealed today, shows how they discussed with former Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas to seek Marie Yovanovitch’s ouster. Both were later accused of lying to investigators about illegal campaign contributions they made to Sessions.
The indictment alleges that a "Congressman-1" had been the beneficiary of approximately $3 million in independent expenditures by "Committee-1.”
CNN has identified the committee as America First Action, a pro-Trump super PAC. Global Energy Producers, a company created by Parnas and Fruman, donated $325,000 to the pro-Trump super PAC and are alleged to have concealed the true source of that money. The PAC said in a statement that they placed the money in a “segregated bank account” and have not used the funds.
Parnas and Fruman met with Sessions at a pro-Trump super PAC event in 2018.
Sessions is not named in the indictment, nor is he charged with the crime.
“At and around the same time, Parnas and Fruman committed to raising those funds for Congressman-1. Parnas met with Congressman-1 and sought Congressman-1’s assistance in causing the U.S. Government to remove or recall the then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine,” the indictment states. Sessions did not respond to phone calls and text messages seeking comment from CNN.
Some context: Fruman and Parnas were detained at Dulles airport outside of Washington last night and are expected to appear in court in Virginia on today. Both associates are connected to efforts to dig up dirt in Ukraine on Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. The case is being prosecuted by the Southern District of New York.” CNN
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 17:08:29 GMT
Kind of makes one wonder if he was really that decent when he was mayor, or if he was just more discreet. My thinking was along these lines when I read the first article about it this morning... did I just not pay enough attention, because I always thought he was a decent guy! Certainly not decent while openly having a girlfriend while still married with a younger son. Interesting that they were boarding an international flight when the were scheduled to appear before congress in less than 24 hrs. Somewhere I missed appearance in Congress.... They got another one in San Francisco.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 17:19:44 GMT
There is much more in the article, but Are these two citizens as is stated in all the articles and are they included in Pompeo's statement they are diplomats? ** The decision of Fruman and Parnas to not comply with committee requests came as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pushed back on impeachment efforts. Pompeo had signaled he would not allow diplomats to provide testimony, and on Monday a key witness was a no-show.George Kent, the deputy assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasia, did not show up for a deposition scheduled on Monday before the three House committees conducting the impeachment inquiry, the Washington Post reported, citing unidentified sources. Kent is a career diplomat who served as deputy chief of mission from 2015 to 2018 at the U.S. embassy in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital. Before that, Kent led anti-corruption efforts for the State Department in Europe. ** The two Soviet-born Ukrainians, now American citizens, acted as couriers for Giuliani, a prominent Trump surrogate and former New York Mayor, who had acknowledged he was seeking dirt in Ukraine on Biden and his son Hunter. Giuliani alleged, without proof, that Biden got his son a lucrative seat on the board of a Ukrainian energy firm called Burisma Holdings. ** www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/10/07/florida-businessmen-with-giuliani-ties-wont-comply-with-impeachment-inquiry/ALSO in the article...... "Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman will not respond to a Monday deadline for documents and do not plan to appear for depositions scheduled for Thursday and Friday, their attorney John Dowd told the Miami Herald. “No response planned,” Dowd, who helped defend Trump during part of the recently concluded Russia investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, said in email." Dowd who was in the WH and defended dt and now these 2 ?!?!?!?
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 10, 2019 17:34:34 GMT
This is all completely fascinating. Not surprising, but fascinating nonetheless.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 18:13:37 GMT
SDNY: Investigation NOT finished, took no questions! They expedited the arrests because Parnas and Fruman had ONE WAY tickets out of the country! Unnamed Russian funded them with about $325,000+/- to go to the PAC for straw donors...
Parnas and Fruman gave $$$ direct to Rep Pete Sessions $20,000 and he was beneficiary of 3 million spending someway connected to the removal of the Ambassador Marie Yuvanovich(?).....
Dowd(former in WH) was in court in VA defending them, as was Manafort's lawyer....
AG Barr had been told about this investigation.................... Huuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm = ONE WAY tickets?
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Post by Gennifer on Oct 10, 2019 18:19:04 GMT
Certainly not decent while openly having a girlfriend while still married with a younger son. Well, damn... what an ass. I guess I was pretty clueless. In my defense, I was about 20, and live on the other side of the country. I’m a bit wiser to politics in my old age.
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Post by casii on Oct 10, 2019 18:25:41 GMT
Great googly moogly. I really hope Eric Larson is taking notes for his the book he pretty much HAS to write. He can call it "In the Garden of Evil, Part Deux".
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 10, 2019 18:26:07 GMT
Certainly not decent while openly having a girlfriend while still married with a younger son. Well, damn... what an ass. I guess I was pretty clueless. In my defense, I was about 20, and live on the other side of the country. I’m a bit wiser to politics in my old age. NY politics, close to Chicago/Daley(?) politics in the past...... Big city mob bosses.............. Like, I had never heard of Sondland, but on the west coast he is big into hotels and other businesses etc.... BIG dt donor though as we are finding out! WSJ: Just in reporting Parnas and Fruman had lunch with Guiliani yesterday before going to Dulles!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 10, 2019 18:57:00 GMT
They really do need to arrest Giuliani.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 10, 2019 19:12:12 GMT
It will be delicious to find out that they had lunch with Giuliani, THEN bought the one way tickets out of the country.
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