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Post by Hayjaker on Oct 19, 2019 4:08:34 GMT
I’m quitting my current position to go to work for another agency.
The new job will allow for a December start date.
How much notice should I give?
I am thinking a month because my current position is one that requires specialized knowledge and I want to leave without leaving any holes.
Reasonable?
Should I wait to give 2 weeks notice?
This is hard!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 4:24:21 GMT
I’m quitting my current position to go to work for another agency. The new job will allow for a December start date. How much notice should I give? I am thinking a month because my current position is one that requires specialized knowledge and I want to leave without leaving any holes. Reasonable? Should I wait to give 2 weeks notice? This is hard! Just because you give a month's notice does not mean they will hurry to hire anyone before you leave. I'd only give advanced notice if I wanted to take a few weeks vacation before starting the new job. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 19, 2019 4:27:59 GMT
What is standard at your place of employment? Is there anything in company policy for giving notice?
If there is no written policy, can you afford it if they ask you to pack up your desk after your give notice?
Do you think that they will be satisfied to give you a full month while they hire a new person for your position?
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 19, 2019 4:31:30 GMT
I was just in this situation (wanting to leave current position) and talked with HR and they said that two weeks is customary, but not necessary if you are at-will (can be let go at any time) and could give a day notice if you wanted. HR said to give notice via email and sign your letter with a final depart date for documentation. I wound up not having to give my notice and instead was laid off for lack of funds. Worked out ok as now I can apply for unemployment. HR gave me two weeks notice and it seemed like the longest two weeks to finish knowing I would be leaving. I would go with the shortest amount of time possible. GL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 4:32:00 GMT
My husband would just let the person go as soon as they gave 2 weeks notice. He rarely had an employee do work up until their last day.
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Post by ~summer~ on Oct 19, 2019 4:47:43 GMT
A month
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Oct 19, 2019 4:55:47 GMT
I’ve done 2 weeks at a couple jobs and 1 month at a job. It depends on my position, the work environment (if I would feel uncomfortable continuing to work during that period) and the reason I was leaving.
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Post by Hayjaker on Oct 19, 2019 4:59:40 GMT
I am leaving on good terms. And I really want to tie things up so that the program can succeed as well as possible when I leave.
I hold a lot of information and knowledge. I hope I get the chance to at least catalogue it before I go.
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Post by busy on Oct 19, 2019 5:07:38 GMT
It really depends on the company, type of position, and reason for departure. Two weeks is the standard in many industries and types of roles, but it's also quite common to let people go immediately upon giving notice if they are going to a competitor. And sometimes, a month or so makes sense. What normally happens at your company?
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Post by hannahruth on Oct 19, 2019 5:08:44 GMT
I have always worked on the pay period - if you get paid weekly then one weeks notice. Fortnightly pay period then a fortnights notice. Etc
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Post by Hayjaker on Oct 19, 2019 5:09:10 GMT
Normally two weeks is standard.
But normally people in my role don’t leave? At least not in the past 10 years.
Reason for leaving is opportunity for personal advancement. PERS.
I’ve reached the ceiling with my current agency without getting a masters degree and at 49 I just don’t think the cost in time and dollars would pay off to get the degree.
My current agency is chaotic since we were taken over by another. Business practices don’t seem to have kept up with the growth.
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Post by Lexica on Oct 19, 2019 5:52:13 GMT
I would give two weeks. Then if at the end of that two weeks And your replacement just isn’t ready to step in, you could offer to stay an additional week. That still leaves you a week off between positions.
I gave 2 weeks between jobs and the company I was leaving kept dragging their feet in getting a replacement. I kept asking and told them I could really use the full two weeks to train, but they didn’t seem to feel any urgency. The came to me on my last day to say they had someone starting on Monday and could I please stay another week or two to train her. I felt very badly for the woman coming in, but my new job was starting that same Monday and I had to say no.
They were upset with me, which was very unfair. They knew there was a great deal of technical training that was specific to my job and they should have started the process of looking for a new hire immediately. I was upset that my coworkers were not going to get a continuance of the procedures that I had set up. I talked to my coworker friend a few months later and he said the woman was very frustrated that they wanted her to just slide in and take over with no support. She didn’t last two weeks and I don’t blame her. The department had to start over on a third woman who again, received no training since the woman that worked the two weeks told them on Friday that she wasn’t coming back on Monday because it was too stressful.
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Post by pherena on Oct 19, 2019 6:42:46 GMT
At least two weeks is standard in most industries. Have your things together, however, as your employer may wish you to leave sooner on learning the news! My DH, after devoting 32 years to an employer and its successor, was given 4 hours to get off the property when he was laid off last year. Bad behavior on the part of employers seems to be rampant in some industries, whether you decide to leave or they decide you should. Good luck in your new job and I hope it's everything you want it to be!
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Oct 19, 2019 6:49:12 GMT
I would give two weeks and let them know you’re available for one more if needed, then take a few weeks off before starting the new job (provided you can afford to). I can’t imagine they’ll find a replacement in time for you to train, even if you gave them a month, so 2-3 weeks will give you time to document everything you can.
Congrats on your new job!
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 19, 2019 7:30:46 GMT
At my company, the amount of notice you have to give is written into your contract. I have to give 5 weeks notice, which I think is a LOT. Then I found out that some people in my company have to give THIRTEEN weeks!!! Insane! I can't imagine too many employers would want to wait 13 weeks for you to start, if you change jobs.
In your situation, starting in December, I would give 3-4 weeks notice, which would still allow you to have several weeks off before you start your next job. Especially seeing that you probably won't get annual leave for a while.
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Post by bearmom on Oct 19, 2019 12:25:37 GMT
At my company: if you are hourly, 2 weeks is the standard. If you are salaried, 30 days is standard. If you leave with less notice, you are marked ineligible for rehire.
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Post by iowgirl on Oct 19, 2019 13:06:48 GMT
If there is no written policy, can you afford it if they ask you to pack up your desk after your give notice? Be prepared for this. It can be quite a shock sometimes, but it is not uncommon to be escorted out as soon as giving notice. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 19, 2019 13:42:14 GMT
If there is no written policy, can you afford it if they ask you to pack up your desk after your give notice? Be prepared for this. It can be quite a shock sometimes, but it is not uncommon to be escorted out as soon as giving notice.  I’ve had it happen to me too. At the end of the first week they told me not to come back. Luckily I was able to start immediately at my new job so I wasn’t short on pay. With the crappy way the managers let me go (along with some of the against policy crap they had pulled previous to that which caused me to want to jump ship in the first place), I wrote a scathing letter to corporate laying it all out and they had my former manager send me a check for that final week of pay! |
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Post by librarylady on Oct 19, 2019 13:45:36 GMT
I gave a month's notice when I had a job like yours--lots of little things to learn.
They did get someone hired within about 10 days so I had adequate time to train my replacement.
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Post by ToniW on Oct 19, 2019 13:50:53 GMT
I worked in a small office (1 f/t, another gal and I were p/t). I gave two months notice so they could hire someone if they wanted. They didn't, thinking they could do it without replacing me but guess what, they hired someone a few months after I left.
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Post by LisaDV on Oct 19, 2019 14:10:53 GMT
Congrats on the new job!
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Post by ~summer~ on Oct 19, 2019 18:09:24 GMT
Check with HR please. Something I learned this week - we have a company where I work that will not pay out your accrued vacation time if you give less than a two weeks' notice. We were all a little surprised at that but it's just a quirk with this particular company. that sounds illegal |
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Post by lisae on Oct 19, 2019 19:47:59 GMT
Are you taking any vacation before you leave? Where I worked, you could not take vacation time after giving notice. It was always a tell when someone suddenly took a week's vacation in January but no one blamed them for getting that time in before giving notice. Otherwise, I'd give as much notice as possible.
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Post by Hayjaker on Oct 20, 2019 2:23:11 GMT
I think I will give a month’s notice and will be prepared if they ask me to leave immediately. (They won’t)
I will continue to work with my current agency at the new agency.
I may even offer to serve as a consultant for my replacement on certain aspects. For a cost !$$
I want my program to succeed after I’m gone. I want it to grow after I’m gone.
I am just ready for a new opportunity!
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Post by littlemama on Oct 20, 2019 2:48:53 GMT
Check with HR please. Something I learned this week - we have a company where I work that will not pay out your accrued vacation time if you give less than a two weeks' notice. We were all a little surprised at that but it's just a quirk with this particular company. that sounds illegal Nope. Not illegal at all. PTO is not required by law. The employer can have whatever policy they would like regarding PTO payout upon end of employment, as long as that policy is applied equally. |
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Post by ~summer~ on Oct 20, 2019 3:01:14 GMT
Nope. Not illegal at all. PTO is not required by law. The employer can have whatever policy they would like regarding PTO payout upon end of employment, as long as that policy is applied equally. in California it is illegal |
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Post by pridemom on Oct 20, 2019 3:28:26 GMT
Nope. Not illegal at all. PTO is not required by law. The employer can have whatever policy they would like regarding PTO payout upon end of employment, as long as that policy is applied equally. Vacation time is not PTO. In my state, vacation time must be paid upon leaving a job, but PTO does not. |
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Post by anniefb on Oct 20, 2019 4:50:39 GMT
At my company, the amount of notice you have to give is written into your contract. I have to give 5 weeks notice, which I think is a LOT. Then I found out that some people in my company have to give THIRTEEN weeks!!! Insane! I can't imagine too many employers would want to wait 13 weeks for you to start, if you change jobs. In your situation, starting in December, I would give 3-4 weeks notice, which would still allow you to have several weeks off before you start your next job. Especially seeing that you probably won't get annual leave for a while. Same here. I have to give 6 weeks. |
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Post by littlemama on Oct 21, 2019 20:12:19 GMT
Nope. Not illegal at all. PTO is not required by law. The employer can have whatever policy they would like regarding PTO payout upon end of employment, as long as that policy is applied equally. Vacation time is not PTO. In my state, vacation time must be paid upon leaving a job, but PTO does not. Sorry, federally, there is no requirement. States can have their own separate rules.
(PTO refers to Paid Time Off which can encompass vacation, sick time, personal time, etc. I wasn't using the term to refer to anything in particular, just the broad category)
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 21, 2019 20:33:12 GMT
I wouldn't do more than 2 weeks.. I would be fearful that I would be let go earlier.
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I’ve had it happen to me too. At the end of the first week they told me not to come back. Luckily I was able to start immediately at my new job so I wasn’t short on pay. With the crappy way the managers let me go (along with some of the against policy crap they had pulled previous to that which caused me to want to jump ship in the first place), I wrote a scathing letter to corporate laying it all out and they had my former manager send me a check for that final week of pay!
