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Post by amom23 on Oct 29, 2019 22:36:05 GMT
Senator Richard Burr Republican... ”If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school, their scholarships should be treated like income. I’ll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to “cash in” to income taxes.” Most if not all those on scholarships are awarded to poor or middle class kids from families that don’t have the money to send them to college. So this is an attack by a Republican Senator against the poor and middle class while supporting large tax cuts for the wealthy. Its things like this is why I quit voting for Republicans. As the mom of a college athlete this was such a win because scholarship money goes towards tuition, books, dorm room, etc. and doesn't cover costs of personal care items, clothing, transportation to go home as examples. For many kids playing their sport is a full time and practically year round job. They don't have the time to work. It's also against NCAA rules for adults like Booster Club members to give any money to a student athlete for any reason. So you have lower income student athlete's who can't afford toothpaste let alone a bus ticket to go home for Christmas.
Sen. Burr needs to wake up and educate himself!
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Post by dewryce on Oct 29, 2019 23:10:11 GMT
Senator Richard Burr Republican... ”If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school, their scholarships should be treated like income. I’ll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to “cash in” to income taxes.” Most if not all those on scholarships are awarded to poor or middle class kids from families that don’t have the money to send them to college. So this is an attack by a Republican Senator against the poor and middle class while supporting large tax cuts for the wealthy. Its things like this is why I quit voting for Republicans. As the mom of a college athlete this was such a win because scholarship money goes towards tuition, books, dorm room, etc. and doesn't cover costs of personal care items, clothing, transportation to go home as examples. For many kids playing their sport is a full time and practically year round job. They don't have the time to work. It's also against NCAA rules for adults like Booster Club members to give any money to a student athlete for any reason. So you have lower income student athlete's who can't afford toothpaste let alone a bus ticket to go home for Christmas.
Sen. Burr needs to wake up and educate himself!
So does he intend on taxing the scholarships of other students who make money/work while going to school? Or is he only planning on punishing the students that actually bring in money for the school? What is the difference?
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Post by Just T on Oct 29, 2019 23:36:07 GMT
As the mom of a college athlete this was such a win because scholarship money goes towards tuition, books, dorm room, etc. and doesn't cover costs of personal care items, clothing, transportation to go home as examples. For many kids playing their sport is a full time and practically year round job. They don't have the time to work. It's also against NCAA rules for adults like Booster Club members to give any money to a student athlete for any reason. So you have lower income student athlete's who can't afford toothpaste let alone a bus ticket to go home for Christmas.
Sen. Burr needs to wake up and educate himself!
So does he intend on taxing the scholarships of other students who make money/work while going to school? Or is he only planning on punishing the students that actually bring in money for the school? What is the difference? Yeah, really. I am also the mom of a former college athlete. My daughter played college basketball at a private college. She got two scholarships that together covered her tuition, but they didn't cover books or room and board. She did take out a few small loans, and we paid the rest. I don't see how she could have worked during college. One of her scholarships was athletic, but the other one was academic, and if she fell below a certain GPA for even one semester, she lost that scholarship. She worked full time as a lifeguard during summers and saved every dollar she could to have spending money throughout the school year.
And she went to a small college. She still had daily workouts during the off seasons. I really do not see how she could have worked, played basketball and kept up a high gpa. I am sure it is much more challenging at Division I schools, and if an athlete comes from a low income family I don't know how they do it. If they can earn some money from the school that is probably earning millions from them, then I think that is a good thing. And being taxed on their scholarship while the richest people and corporation in America get tax breaks makes me sick.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 30, 2019 0:57:00 GMT
So does he intend on taxing the scholarships of other students who make money/work while going to school? Or is he only planning on punishing the students that actually bring in money for the school? What is the difference? Yeah, really. I am also the mom of a former college athlete. My daughter played college basketball at a private college. She got two scholarships that together covered her tuition, but they didn't cover books or room and board. She did take out a few small loans, and we paid the rest. I don't see how she could have worked during college. One of her scholarships was athletic, but the other one was academic, and if she fell below a certain GPA for even one semester, she lost that scholarship. She worked full time as a lifeguard during summers and saved every dollar she could to have spending money throughout the school year.
And she went to a small college. She still had daily workouts during the off seasons. I really do not see how she could have worked, played basketball and kept up a high gpa. I am sure it is much more challenging at Division I schools, and if an athlete comes from a low income family I don't know how they do it. If they can earn some money from the school that is probably earning millions from them, then I think that is a good thing. And being taxed on their scholarship while the richest people and corporation in America get tax breaks makes me sick.
My understanding is that they are able to make money "off their likeness"-from endorsements, etc. Not from the school. Is that correct?
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Post by dewryce on Oct 30, 2019 1:01:15 GMT
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Post by Merge on Oct 30, 2019 1:07:09 GMT
I know this won't engender the same outrage as the potential for taxing student athletes, but I'll just throw out here that the vast majority of students who do work on campus in return for money are taxed on that income. Graduate TAs, undergrad assistants, student stage and equipment managers, work study students ... usually subject to state and local income tax. Only athletes have gotten around being taxed by calling their pay for play programs a "scholarship." In any other area, a scholarship is a tuition waiver awarded to attract a student who is likely to excel in an academic field of study. Sports are not an academic field of study. In my opinion, college athletes should be paid a wage for the work they do. Stop calling it a scholarship, because it isn't. Personally, I don't wish to see student athletes taxed on what they make, but if they're not taxed, I think other students doing jobs for the university should be tax-exempt as well. And if we're going to continue to tax the TAs and others, then I think it's only fair that the athletes are taxed as well. Athletes are not the only students working for the university yet still unable to afford the basics like food and toothpaste. (Signed, a former graduate TA who had no time to work during the school year because of school commitments, and had to sell her plasma to afford groceries. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) )
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 1:23:46 GMT
I think Burr wants to tax the funds the students are now receiving from their scholarship in addition to whatever money these kids get for their likeness etc.
I may be wrong, but that is the way I’m looking at it.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 30, 2019 1:48:12 GMT
I knew former Congressman Sean Duffy was against immigrants! A CNN executive on Tuesday defended new political commentator Sean Duffy after several of the network’s anchors and commentators criticized the former Republican congressman’s on-air remarks earlier that day as “anti-immigrant” and “appalling.”In an interview with POLITICO, CNN vice president Rebecca Kutler said the network “is out there reporting from all over the country and from all points of view” and that “having people who support the president’s policies is part of that.” ** On Tuesday’s “New Day,” Duffy suggested Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council official and decorated U.S. military veteran who testified that he believed Trump had undermined national security on the infamous Ukraine call, might be loyal to the Ukraine, a country he left with his family at age three. "It seems very clear that he is incredibly concerned about Ukrainian defense. I don't know that he's concerned about American policy,” said Duffy, who suggested Vindman has an “affinity” for his homeland of Ukraine.** “It’s an odd questioning of patriotism coming from Sean Duffy, the guy who spent part of his 20s on MTV’s 'The Real World' and ‘Real World/Road Rules Challenge’ while Alexander Vindman spent his on foreign deployments, including one to Iraq where he earned a Purple Heart after he was injured by a roadside bomb,” Keilar said. (Duffy appeared on Real World: Boston in 1997 and later on the reality competition show.) Also, CNN editor-at-large Chris Cillizza wrote in an online article how it’s “appalling” how some “Republicans are trying to do to discredit Vindman,” citing Duffy’s appearance on CNN and smears from Fox News hosts and guests. Regarding Duffy’s comments, Kutler pointed out that Berman, Toobin, and Keilar forcefully pushed back on air. “I think our air speaks for itself,” she said. ** www.politico.com/news/2019/10/29/cnn-sean-duffy-anti-immigrant-bigotry-061434
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Post by Merge on Oct 30, 2019 1:50:16 GMT
I think Burr wants to tax the funds the students are now receiving from their scholarship in addition to whatever money these kids get for their likeness etc. I may be wrong, but that is the way I’m looking at it. Yes, and what I'm saying is that all the other students who are receiving money from the university in exchange for a service are taxed on that money. Sports gets around it by calling it a "scholarship." But it isn't really a scholarship, because it has nothing to do with excellence in an academic field of study and requires the student recipient to perform a service for the university. In any other field, that's a job, not a scholarship. And if TAs and others are taxed on job income they receive from the university, why should athletes not be? (For the record, I don't think any of them should be taxed. Just pointing out that people seem much more likely to get outraged when athletes are the ones taking the hit.)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 30, 2019 1:56:44 GMT
'Misconception': John Yoo denies he accused White House Ukraine official of espionageby Mike Brest | October 29, 2019 01:20 PM John Yoo attempted to clear up a misunderstanding on Tuesday after he faced scrutiny for appearing to suggest the White House official who is testifying in front of House impeachment investigators was participating in "espionage." ** "I want to clear up a misconception of my remarks on the Laura Ingraham show last night," he told the Washington Examiner Tuesday. "I did not accuse Lt. Col. Vindman of committing the crime of espionage. I have tremendous respect for a decorated officer of the U.S. Army and a veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. What I was addressing was a report that Ukrainian officials had sought to contact Vindaman for advice on how to handle Rudy Giuliani acting as a presidential envoy." "I meant to say that this sounded like an espionage operation by the Ukrainians," he added. "I think it deliberately misconstrues my words to say that the separate issue of the phone call between the U.S. and Ukrainian president through the chain of command constitutes espionage by Vindaman, or that Vindaman is some kind of double agent." During a segment, Ingraham highlighted a portion of a New York Times report about Vindman's upcoming testimony. She pointed out that Vindman was born in Ukraine and that Ukrainian officials "sought advice from him about how to deal with" Giuliani.Yoo, 52, now a professor at the University of California, responded to Ingraham, saying, "I find that astounding. Some people might call that espionage."** The video is embedded at the end of the article. www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/misconception-john-yoo-denies-he-accused-white-house-ukraine-official-of-espionageYes, that is what he said. Loud and clear! With venum!!
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Post by dewryce on Oct 30, 2019 2:03:03 GMT
While not their field of study, athletic scholarships still allow a lot of students who wouldn’t otherwise be able to afford it to attend college and earn a degree. I don’t think they should be taxed on that money any more than someone who has earned that scholarship academically. You want to tax one type of scholarship? Then tax both. Personally, I don’t think any scholarships should be taxed.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 30, 2019 12:02:23 GMT
I think Burr wants to tax the funds the students are now receiving from their scholarship in addition to whatever money these kids get for their likeness etc. I may be wrong, but that is the way I’m looking at it. Yes, and what I'm saying is that all the other students who are receiving money from the university in exchange for a service are taxed on that money. Sports gets around it by calling it a "scholarship." But it isn't really a scholarship, because it has nothing to do with excellence in an academic field of study and requires the student recipient to perform a service for the university. In any other field, that's a job, not a scholarship. And if TAs and others are taxed on job income they receive from the university, why should athletes not be? (For the record, I don't think any of them should be taxed. Just pointing out that people seem much more likely to get outraged when athletes are the ones taking the hit.) My daughter was a graduate assistant who received her tuition plus a monthly stipend as compensation. The stipend was taxed, but the tuition scholarship was not.
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Post by Merge on Oct 30, 2019 12:46:01 GMT
While not their field of study, athletic scholarships still allow a lot of students who wouldn’t otherwise be able to afford it to attend college and earn a degree. I don’t think they should be taxed on that money any more than someone who has earned that scholarship academically. You want to tax one type of scholarship? Then tax both. Personally, I don’t think any scholarships should be taxed. ALL types of scholarships (along with work study, stipends and other types of aid) allow people to go to colleges they would not otherwise be able to afford. I agree that if one is taxed, they should all be taxed. Doing a little poking around online this morning, my takeaway is that universities often classify things creatively in order to avoid putting a tax burden on certain students. Athletes at most large universities, for example, receive services such as individualized tutoring, specific kinds of medical care, and even special housing that no one else receives. This is a huge benefit they receive completely tax-free over and above their tuition and room/board waivers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 13:20:23 GMT
Alec Baldwin: To defeat Donald Trump, start with next week's Virginia elections A Democratic wave will be read as an impeachment referendum, and could make a real difference in Virginians' lives and Washington's balance of power. For those of us who have functioned for nearly three years in sustained shock at the spectacle of the Trump presidency, the arrival — finally — of impeachment proceedings is satisfying news. Satisfying, because it has been terrifying to think about this president never being held accountable for the damage he’s doing to our country with his contempt for the Constitution, let alone another four years of this destruction and demoralization. If you’re worried about whether Senate Republicans will ever stand up to him, let me suggest one way to regain their attention: Use this year’s legislative elections in Virginia on Tuesday to send an unmistakable message that Americans are eager to put an end to the dishonest and dishonorable Trump era. Right now, Republican control of this formerly deep red state is hanging by a thread . Republicans hold bare majorities in both the upper and lower houses of the General Assembly. Two years ago, Democrats came one vote short of flipping the House of Delegates from red to blue, a sign of the coming Blue Wave that hit the U.S. House the following year. This year, the urge to finish the job is palpable among Virginia Democrats, whose field of diverse, youthful, progressive candidates is at least as strong as 2017’s and possibly even stronger. Abuse of power is enough: You don't have to break a law to be impeached. Trump's defenders need a better argument. It’s hard to overstate just how much is riding on Virginia’s elections and how they could influence the ultimate fortunes of Trump and Republicans. Virginia was always going to be the warmup act for the 2020 elections: an early gauge of Americans’ appetite to repudiate Trump and Trumpism. But with impeachment under way, the stakes are phenomenally higher. There’s just no way a big win for Democrats in Virginia won’t be read as a referendum on impeachment, and no way the opposite outcome won’t be read the opposite way. These things have a way of shaping the long-term electoral narrative. And it might do more than that. It could make a substantive difference in the 2020 political landscape, not to mention in the lives of Virginians. www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/30/trump-impeachment-send-2020-message-virginia-election-alec-baldwin-column/2497059001/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 13:33:35 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
”Robert Livingston, the ex-Republican congressman turned lobbyist, repeatedly told a foreign service officer assigned to the White House that Marie Yovanovitch, the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, should be fired because of her association with Democrats.”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 13:37:53 GMT
ABC News...
”State Department officials set to testify in Trump impeachment probe; say Mulvaney put 'informal' hold on Ukraine aid. abcn.ws/31UNw0x”
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 30, 2019 14:32:32 GMT
While not their field of study, athletic scholarships still allow a lot of students who wouldn’t otherwise be able to afford it to attend college and earn a degree. I don’t think they should be taxed on that money any more than someone who has earned that scholarship academically. You want to tax one type of scholarship? Then tax both. Personally, I don’t think any scholarships should be taxed. ALL types of scholarships (along with work study, stipends and other types of aid) allow people to go to colleges they would not otherwise be able to afford. I agree that if one is taxed, they should all be taxed. Doing a little poking around online this morning, my takeaway is that universities often classify things creatively in order to avoid putting a tax burden on certain students. Athletes at most large universities, for example, receive services such as individualized tutoring, specific kinds of medical care, and even special housing that no one else receives. This is a huge benefit they receive completely tax-free over and above their tuition and room/board waivers. All students at my university are entitled to free tutoring. However, athletes have to go to a special center to receive assistance from tutors who have been trained in what is acceptable under NCAA regulations. For example, the tutor can not provide the athlete with any materials they can keep—they can borrow supplies while in the center, but they can’t take them with them. Also, a tutor in one of the general centers may have copies of study materials that they give to nonathletes, but that would not be allowed for the athlete. Both types of tutors are paid exactly the same and are required to meet the same standards to be hired. As for housing, our athletes who live on campus are housed in regular student housing, but some sports like football and basketball require them to be on the same floor, primarily to make it easier to monitor behavior. They do have a “training table” for many of their meals because practice time definitely has them away from the residence hall durin major meal times. They also need to pay attention to nutritional needs when they are involved in intensive training. So I get what you are saying, but not every campus provides dramatically different services for athletes, and often, the differences are directly tied to the spot or NCAA rules.
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Post by Judy26 on Oct 30, 2019 15:37:36 GMT
NCAA rules are extremely restrictive and actually limit many of the college perks other students receive. My nephew is playing baseball at a D1 school. He could not live in the most centrally located dorm as he has to live with other team members. He is tested for drugs/ alcohol every 2 weeks. He can’t eat in the cafeteria for breakfast or dinner due to practice schedules. He must attend study table nightly or risk losing his scholarship. He has strict GPA requirements that must be met or he will be dropped from the team as per NCAA rules.
DH was a D2 coach at a state university. One of his athletes was from our hometown about an hour away from campus. The athlete’s mother had breast cancer and DH got the call that her death was eminent. DH Was not allowed to drive the student home to see his mother even though he was driving right past the hospital on his way home. It would have been considered a “perk” and DH could have lost his job.
All of this is to illustrate that the majority of athletic scholarships are not what is depicted by the elite D1 schools. Very few full rides are handed out and those that compete are held to a very high standard. And most scholarship student athletes will never make a penny through endorsements.
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Post by Merge on Oct 30, 2019 15:40:47 GMT
ALL types of scholarships (along with work study, stipends and other types of aid) allow people to go to colleges they would not otherwise be able to afford. I agree that if one is taxed, they should all be taxed. Doing a little poking around online this morning, my takeaway is that universities often classify things creatively in order to avoid putting a tax burden on certain students. Athletes at most large universities, for example, receive services such as individualized tutoring, specific kinds of medical care, and even special housing that no one else receives. This is a huge benefit they receive completely tax-free over and above their tuition and room/board waivers. All students at my university are entitled to free tutoring. However, athletes have to go to a special center to receive assistance from tutors who have been trained in what is acceptable under NCAA regulations. For example, the tutor can not provide the athlete with any materials they can keep—they can borrow supplies while in the center, but they can’t take them with them. Also, a tutor in one of the general centers may have copies of study materials that they give to nonathletes, but that would not be allowed for the athlete. Both types of tutors are paid exactly the same and are required to meet the same standards to be hired. As for housing, our athletes who live on campus are housed in regular student housing, but some sports like football and basketball require them to be on the same floor, primarily to make it easier to monitor behavior. They do have a “training table” for many of their meals because practice time definitely has them away from the residence hall durin major meal times. They also need to pay attention to nutritional needs when they are involved in intensive training. So I get what you are saying, but not every campus provides dramatically different services for athletes, and often, the differences are directly tied to the spot or NCAA rules. I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s particularly relevant - my point was that universities get creative in how they provide benefits to certain students to avoid them being taxed. However big or small the services, it doesn’t matter. You all are proving my first point, though, which is that people are much more likely to jump up to protect student athletes than other students who may be taxed on what they receive from the university. ☺️
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 16:20:38 GMT
Acyn Torabi..
”Brit Hume calls the President’s authoritarian behavior “bluster” and suggests the actions by Trump on the phone call with Ukraine was due to inexperience in foreign affairs”
Max Boot...
”Conservatives” who have spent a lifetime preaching personal responsibility always find some excuse for Trump’s misconduct.”
Its amazing how the Conservatives twist & turn to protect trump.
Even I a lowly retired commercial insurance broker know you don’t threaten a foreign country by withholding promised aid to get them to do something that will benefit you personally.
In trump’s big 🧠 what he did was acceptable because that is more then likely the way he ran his business.
What trump’s DNA lacks is integrity and ethics, among other characteristics. And you have conservatives falling all over themselves protecting the fool.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 17:12:11 GMT
Natasha Bertrand..
”NEW: Vindman was instructed not to debrief Trump on Zelensky's inauguration b/c Trump’s advisers were worried it might confuse him—Nunes ally Kash Patel had "misrepresented" himself as NSC's Ukraine expert, despite no relevant experience, Vindman testified”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 17:28:27 GMT
Chris Lu...
”Trump in Sept. 2018: "Our Steel Industry is the talk of the World"
May 2019: "In one year Tariffs have rebuilt our Steel Industry - it is booming!"
Reality: steelworkers are being laid off as prices drop and production is cut back. #TrumpEconomy”
MAGA for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 17:38:52 GMT
CNN...
”The number of uninsured children grew by more than 400,000 between 2016 and 2018, an unprecedented decline in health coverage for the youngest Americans, a new study has found”
Moscow Mitch...
“While Republican policies are producing results for American workers and families, Senate Democrats are still trying to resurrect failed Obama-era ideas. This week, their goal is to cut down on states’ abilities to work around the worst of Obamacare’s burdens.”
”Waivers from Obamacare regulations have already helped states bring down premiums and restore options for Americans. Both red states and blue states have used them. Senate Republicans support protections for pre-existing conditions and oppose Democrats' efforts to reduce choice.”
Yea those options include kicking 400,000 kids off insurance.
#MAGA
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 30, 2019 18:27:24 GMT
Nunes staff sure have been busy!! Too bad the people who should be watching aren't! This makes no sense, Patel does or does NOT work for the NSC?!? Or he did but was not a Ukraine expert?
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Post by hop2 on Oct 30, 2019 18:48:47 GMT
Chris Lu... ”Trump in Sept. 2018: "Our Steel Industry is the talk of the World" May 2019: "In one year Tariffs have rebuilt our Steel Industry - it is booming!" Reality: steelworkers are being laid off as prices drop and production is cut back. #TrumpEconomy” MAGA for sure. But as long as he keeps saying otherwise ‘they’ gobble it up as gospel truth. You get what you vote for - you vote for a con artist you get a con artist ( he’s long been labeled Don the Con in NYC for a reason ) But But But Hillary - she lied. Um yeah, ok. And which of his several thousand lies are ya’ll going to finally object to? And WHEN? Seriously? Benghazi >>>>>>> abandoning troops in Syria- on purpose - because you owe someone for letting you build a hotel in their country. AND THEN to top it off He thank Putin first and everybody else before thanking the military for what they did in Syria despite his own ineptness. I’m sorry any one who can’t see that he sold the US military out for a hotel are just being willfully stupid. Our military deserves so much more than that Emails the emails! Ok WhatsApp & unsecured phones. Talking about classified info at dinner in Mar A Lago. Whispering directly in Putins ear? This is so far beyond using a random server Some people are completely incapable of critical thinking. It’s beyond me. I had no idea how many willfully ignorant Americans there were. But as long as we ‘get’ it over on those ’Libtards’ It great! I can’t even anymore really
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Oct 30, 2019 19:13:19 GMT
All students at my university are entitled to free tutoring. However, athletes have to go to a special center to receive assistance from tutors who have been trained in what is acceptable under NCAA regulations. For example, the tutor can not provide the athlete with any materials they can keep—they can borrow supplies while in the center, but they can’t take them with them. Also, a tutor in one of the general centers may have copies of study materials that they give to nonathletes, but that would not be allowed for the athlete. Both types of tutors are paid exactly the same and are required to meet the same standards to be hired. As for housing, our athletes who live on campus are housed in regular student housing, but some sports like football and basketball require them to be on the same floor, primarily to make it easier to monitor behavior. They do have a “training table” for many of their meals because practice time definitely has them away from the residence hall durin major meal times. They also need to pay attention to nutritional needs when they are involved in intensive training. So I get what you are saying, but not every campus provides dramatically different services for athletes, and often, the differences are directly tied to the spot or NCAA rules. I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s particularly relevant - my point was that universities get creative in how they provide benefits to certain students to avoid them being taxed. However big or small the services, it doesn’t matter. You all are proving my first point, though, which is that people are much more likely to jump up to protect student athletes than other students who may be taxed on what they receive from the university. ☺️ First of all, I am not “protecting” athletes. ? ? ? And I wasn’t addressing the tuition tax issues at all. I’m just addressing the statement about athletes getting services that no one else does. Yes, it happens at some schools, but as I pointed out, not all. If athletes earn endorsement money, that will be taxed because it is payment for services rendered from a third party. That really shouldn’t have any impact on whether their tuition is taxable, but the reasoning behind the proposed bill seems to be that if they can get paid for endorsements, they should pay tax on tuition. The two are not related. Everyone thinks this is all about the big-time basketball and football players. No doubt they will see the biggest benefit. It will also benefit the dozen or so schools that are in the annual discussions for the playoffs in basketball or football and hurt those who aren’t (including my school). But on the flip side, there will be a benefit to the non-revenue sport athletes as well. I hadn’t considered this angle until it was pointed out on NPR this morning. Students in “minor” sports might not get paid to do traditional ad campaigns, but there is likely to be opportunity to earn “influencer” money on social media. Also, under the old rules, an NCAA tennis player could not get paid to do lessons but will be able to do so under the new rules. While this will probably be good for individual athletes, I think it will be disruptive overall to college sports. We will continue to pretend that these athletes are “amateurs” while allowing some to earn large sums as a result of their participation. That won’t go over well in locker rooms with those who can’t cash in. We will see the “skill” positions like QB, running back, receiver, linebacker, etc make bank, while the offense line gets far less, if anything at all, because their names are not being showcased. That creates a whole new dynamic at the college level.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 30, 2019 19:39:01 GMT
Merge To be fair, I would have objected if he wanted to tax any student’s scholarships, especially if he wasn’t planning on taxing all of them. It’s not an athlete vs non-athlete issue for me, and I suspect it is the same for a lot of people. It is among those I have talked to about this anyway. But it has been interesting reading about benefits and issues for students and student athletes!
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Post by hop2 on Oct 30, 2019 20:02:46 GMT
Merge To be fair, I would have objected if he wanted to tax any student’s scholarships, especially if he wasn’t planning on taxing all of them. It’s not an athlete vs non-athlete issue for me, and I suspect it is the same for a lot of people. It is among those I have talked to about this anyway. But it has been interesting reading about benefits and issues for students and student athletes! I have to provide a statement with my taxes about my child’s scholarship. ( the school verifies wether or not it’s taxable ) My students were not athletes. My students both worked to pay for what their scholarships did not pay for, their income was ‘taxed’ as was appropriate to their income level. ( not much ) My children receive ‘benefits’ ( I guess you could call them that ) for ‘free’ ( I’m sure the costs are funded by tuition ) from the university that are not taxed. Such as belonging to non academic music groups. Solar car, Baja ( while not directly from the college both are funded by the college although not equally ![:rolleyes:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Ui47LhQw2NqWVWNNqtfM.jpg) ) They had access to study groups and free tutoring, the vast media center which loans so much more than books. ( well one had a vast media center the other has a so so media center ) Free Gym memberships. Free fitness classes. ( yoga jazzercise etc ) free career counseling even after graduation. And free personal protection late at night ( just call ) And these are only the things I know about, I’m sure there’s more Are we really going to quibble over the small things institutions do & provide to help students become well rounded adult human beings? Start limiting these options & activities by taxing them and students will be less well rounded and imho might be less mentally healthy as well. And I’m no advocate for ‘spoiled’ student athletes or the win win win at any cost systems some of our universities might have coughcoughRutgerscoughcough Some universities have their priorities all wrong. Some ‘students’ have their priorities all wrong as well. That doesn’t mean the entire system needs to ‘pay’ for the ones who have it wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 21:57:38 GMT
Georgetown Law..
”LIVE NOW: Former President Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and #SupremeCourt Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg speaking at #GeorgetownLaw this evening for the second Annual Ruth Bader Ginsburg Lecture:”
This is one place trump will never be invited to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 22:06:29 GMT
NPR...
”EXCLUSIVE: White House aide Tim Morrison, a key figure in the ongoing impeachment inquiry who is scheduled to testify Thursday, is expected to step down from the National Security Council.”
🐁🐁🐁leaving the sinking 🛳
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