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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2019 2:33:39 GMT
CNN.. ”CNN BREAKING ---> Giuliani associate PARNAS willing to tell Congress that Rep NUNES met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on BIDEN @chriscuomo and @vickypjward will break it down shortly on CNN - @cuomoprimetime” Vicky Ward has had very good info all along!! Ex-Ukrainian official Prosecutor Shokin, the same corrupt prosecutor that Europe and IMF, US etc, that Biden had the letter that Shokin had to be fired!! Need to remember the Nunes' aides's name Derrick Harvey!! And there is documentation of him going to Europe in December 2018. www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/new-details-in-lev-parnas-reported-effort-to-help-devin-nunes-73939525929
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2019 3:53:02 GMT
MSNBC: Austin Evers, Executive Director of American Oversight.org is getting State Dept documents about Ukraine legally ... FOIA, over 100 documents. Court ordered them delivered by midnight tonight! They have other law suits in the works so there will be more documents as the days pass! Emails between Guillani and Pompeo, documents that Schiff and Committee have not been allowed to see and Pompeo has refused to release. They show a clear trail from Guillani direct to the WH, dt's personal assistant Madelyn Westerhouse They can be downloaded from the American Oversight.org website. Site is down right now.............. 10:57 pm ET I would say they are overwhelmed. www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/state-dept-releases-docs-that-show-how-giuliani-s-smear-campaign-against-yovanovitch-reached-pompeo-73941061530
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Post by dizzycheermom on Nov 23, 2019 7:08:03 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson 38 mins · November 22, 2019 (Friday) Today began with evidence that impeachment is getting to Trump. He launched an epic 53-minute tirade this morning on a phone call to Fox and Friends, in which he ranted against Marie Yovanovitch for not hanging up his portrait in the embassy (her lawyers promptly said this was untrue), and said that he fired FBI Director James Comey to protect himself (a crime, by the way). The hosts were clearly uncomfortable, but they couldn’t get a word in edgewise. Then things got quiet enough that I took it easy, then spent a couple of hours cooking an elaborate dinner, and then settled in early to write an informative letter over here on how media uses data to sell political ads. But it was not to be. I opened up Twitter just as news broke that Lev Parnas, the recently indicted political operative, is willing to testify before Congress to say that he helped Republican Congressman Devin Nunes meet with the corrupt former Ukraine prosecutor Victor Shokin in Austria last December. The purpose of their meeting: to talk about smearing the Bidens. Shokin is the prosecutor Biden helped to oust, and Nunes is currently the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee. You all are going to have to wait for that piece on media, money, and politics. Tonight, I'd better unpack this news. First off, remember that Parnas is an untrustworthy reporter: he is himself under indictment, is mad that Trump has pretended not to know him, and is undoubtedly eager to cut a deal. But that eagerness cuts both ways. If he is trying to make a deal, he would likely not claim something that he couldn’t prove. We’ll see. Anyway, the story, dropped by CNN, is this: Lev Parnas was an associate of Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani…. Wait. We have another breaking story. Tonight, a little after 10:30, the State Department released documents under the Freedom of Information Act, after being sued for them. The documents suggest that Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani worked with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and the Oval Office, to smear our own US Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch. Oh, lordy. OK. That implicates Pompeo in the Ukraine scandal, but since Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland and Russia expert Fiona Hill had already both implicated him in their testimony, it is not as big as the original story I was unrolling. So, back to it: … Lev Parnas is an American citizen who was born in Ukraine in 1972, when it was part of the USSR, and he has worked with Giuliani on Ukraine matters. He and his associate Igor Fruman were arrested in October as they were trying to flee the country to travel to Vienna, Austria, likely to meet with Ukrainian oligarch Dymytro Firtash. Firtash is believed to be involved with Russian organized crime, and was once a partner of Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager. Parnas and Fruman were arrested as they tried to leave the United States because they have been charged with funneling money from Russian oligarchs to American political figures (including House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy). They are currently under house arrest. Through his lawyer, Parnas says he is willing to testify that after the Republicans lost control of the House of Representatives last year, Devin Nunes traveled to Vienna to meet with dismissed Ukraine prosecutor Victor Shokin. He timed it during the congressional recess so he would not have to report it to his Democratic colleagues. About that time, according to Parnas, he and Nunes began to work together, and Parnas put Nunes in touch with Ukrainians who could help him smear Biden. We already knew that Parnas and Shokin were working with Giuliani to do the same thing, starting in about November 2018 (again, right after the Republicans lost the midterm elections), because Giuliani said so on national TV (!). Their efforts are the origin of the rumor that Joe Biden got Shokin fired to keep him from investigating Hunter Biden (there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of either of the Bidens). The story they were pushing was that it was Ukraine rather than Russia that hacked the 2016 election, and that Burisma and the Bidens were corrupt and must be investigated. That should sound familiar. But it gets worse. Parnas alleges that he and Nunes, or Nunes’s proxy, met several times a week in the Trump Hotel, along with Giuliani, and John Solomon, former reporter for The Hill, who pushed anti-Yovanovitch stories and whose reporting is now under review. Also included were married attorneys Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing, the Trump defenders who are often on Fox News Channel programs. They represent Firtash, who needs American lawyers because he is wanted in America for bribery and racketeering. He is currently in Vienna, Austria—where an awful lot of things seem to happen-- challenging his extradition (although, honestly, I can’t believe he doesn’t have better lawyers than these two, and is simply employing them as a way to have inroads with Trump). Also at those meetings was Derek Harvey, who works for Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee, and who, according to Parnas, was understood to be Nunes’s agent. This is the first time a member of Congress has been implicated in the Ukraine scandal. But Nunes has been hovering on the edges. At the very beginning of Trump’s term, he appeared to be working with the White House when, as chair of the House Intelligence Committee, he took directly to Trump what he said was evidence the Obama administration was spying on the Trump campaign. Those days were more innocent than these (which is saying something); he was forced to give a public apology for cutting ranking member Adam Schiff out of access to the information he claimed to have. His blurring of lines with the White House continues. When Trump blurted out a few weeks ago that he had no idea who Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was even though Vindman was on the National Security Council, Trump was apparently confused because he believed that the Ukraine expert on the National Security Council was not Vindman but rather Kashyap Patel (known as Kash), a Nunes staffer who joined the White House in February and had no Ukraine experience at all. Patel had been muscling Vindman out of meetings and talking to Trump about Ukraine in Vindman’s place, seemingly with Nunes’s backing. The story that Nunes might have been working to push disinformation to affect the 2016 election is terribly troubling, especially because Nunes is the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee. For the first two years of Trump’s presidency, he was the chairman. His finger is on the pulse of our national security. Nunes refused to comment on this CNN story. (Or, rather, he commented: “I don't talk to you in this lifetime or the next lifetime,” to a CNN reporter. “At any time…. On any question.”) Giuliani refused to comment. DiGenova and Victoria Toensing refused to comment. Harvey refused to comment. Solomon confirmed that the meetings happened, and said he was only there as a journalist to report a story. If this story is true, it troubles me on another level, too. You all know I think Trump’s effort to win an election by poisoning the media with a smear against the Bidens was simply a replay of what happened in 2016. If so… why did Nunes have the same instinct?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 15:30:34 GMT
Recent events have shown us that we can’t trust the government anymore than we can billionaires, the Silicon 6 and whoever else is on your hit list. At the end of the day we the people have to decide the difference between fact and fiction and act accordingly. No excuses.I don't have a "hit list" PLENTY of excuses. You just refuse to see them and/or be empathetic to them.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2019 15:56:39 GMT
But it gets worse. Parnas alleges that he and Nunes, or Nunes’s proxy, met several times a week in the Trump Hotel, along with Giuliani, and John Solomon, former reporter for The Hill, who pushed anti-Yovanovitch stories and whose reporting is now under review. Also included were married attorneys Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing, the Trump defenders who are often on Fox News Channel programs. They represent Firtash, who needs American lawyers because he is wanted in America for bribery and racketeering. He is currently in Vienna, Austria—where an awful lot of things seem to happen-- challenging his extradition (although, honestly, I can’t believe he doesn’t have better lawyers than these two, and is simply employing them as a way to have inroads with Trump). Also at those meetings was Derek Harvey, who works for Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee, and who, according to Parnas, was understood to be Nunes’s agent. And her son Brady Toensing was hired to work in the DOJ just this past June as a senior counsel in its Office of Legal Policy. www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/brady-toensing-justice-department/The team was also considered to join Sekulow, as part of dts legal team in 2018! www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/politics/digenova-role-trump-legal-team/index.html
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Post by lucyg on Nov 23, 2019 16:33:48 GMT
OMG, Rudy really is losing his mind. He misspelled counsel (in the sense of independent counsel). If anyone on this planet should know how to correctly spell counsel, it’s the guy who was a successful U.S. attorney for many years. Not only is his tweet despicable due to content, but to me it’s another sign of dementia setting in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 17:44:48 GMT
Recent events have shown us that we can’t trust the government anymore than we can billionaires, the Silicon 6 and whoever else is on your hit list. At the end of the day we the people have to decide the difference between fact and fiction and act accordingly. No excuses.I don't have a "hit list" PLENTY of excuses. You just refuse to see them and/or be empathetic to them. 1. I do believe you have a hit list and that is anyone with money. You are very clear on that IMO 2. From the very beginning of this back and forth I have been talking about people who vote. Specifically this: “ Instead of allowing the Silicon Six decide the fate of the world, let the ELECTED representatives, voted by the WILL OF THE PEOPLE in every democracy in the world, have AT LEAST SOME SAY."
3. I don’t have a problem with the government stepping in when needed to help those who need it. But I do have a problem with the government becoming all things to all people. And if we have reached a point that we have to rely on the government telling us what is true and what is false information because the masses are to lazy to do their due diligence then we have become too dependent on the government. It’s not healthy for the people or the country to become too dependent on the government. Something you refuse to see. i mean who ever thought we would end up with that shit show happening in DC now. Serious question, do you or can you trust anything that comes out of the trump administration?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 18:51:33 GMT
linktrump ”Adam Schiff will be compelled to testify should the Democrats decide, despite the fact that my presidential conversations were totally appropriate (perfect), to go forward with the Impeachment Hoax. Polls have now turned very strongly against Impeachment!”
FiveThirtyEight tracks the polls almost on a daily basis and they do an average. Today. 46.3% support the impeachment proceedings. 45.6% don’t support the impeachment proceedings Breakdown of who supports it by party. Democrats 80.3% Independents. 41% Republicans. 12.2% Hardly turned very strongly against it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 18:58:42 GMT
Leave it to trump to find a specific poll to try and make his point.
”Joe Concha, The Hill: “In Emerson College Poll, Impeachment among independents, 49% Oppose, 34% Support. You see why Pelosi is reluctant to go in with this. Dems have to go home and explain why they haven’t done something on Opioid crisis, drug prices, USMCA, the Border, etc.”
The average poll shows that 41% of independents support the impeachment.
As to the Democrats going home and explain why something hasn’t been done about things.
Really, trump is confused yet again. How many bills have the “do nothing” Democrats passed that are sitting Moscow Mitch’s desk? Isn’t it over 200?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 19:05:00 GMT
And yet another example of trump #MAGA
MSNBC
”BREAKING: US Navy Sec. Richard Spencer has strongly considered resigning over President Trump's handling of the case of a SEAL accused of murder; has told the White House that a tweet is not an official order.”
”Sec. Spencer responded Thursday by telling the White House that a tweet is not an official order and if the president is ordering the Navy to end the Trident Review Board of Gallagher, he needs to do so in writing, officials say.”
”Four officials familiar with Sec. Spencer’s thinking say he will resign if President Trump signs a written order to end the Navy probe. He conveyed those feelings to Pentagon leaders on Thursday.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2019 19:08:46 GMT
Really, trump is confused yet again. How many bills have the “do nothing” Democrats passed that are sitting Moscow Mitch’s desk? Isn’t it over 200? We know. I just wish that they would talk about it far more often than any of them do!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 19:11:34 GMT
Evan McMullin
“Giuliani and Republican leadership messaging over the last couple of days signals that Trump and his allies are escalating their use of disinformation as a political tool, an authoritarian strategy to prevent the public from ascertaining truth and holding them accountable.”
And we are suppose to trust this government to provide the American People with accurate information.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2019 19:39:28 GMT
And yet another example of trump #MAGA MSNBC ”BREAKING: US Navy Sec. Richard Spencer has strongly considered resigning over President Trump's handling of the case of a SEAL accused of murder; has told the White House that a tweet is not an official order.” ”Sec. Spencer responded Thursday by telling the White House that a tweet is not an official order and if the president is ordering the Navy to end the Trident Review Board of Gallagher, he needs to do so in writing, officials say.” ”Four officials familiar with Sec. Spencer’s thinking say he will resign if President Trump signs a written order to end the Navy probe. He conveyed those feelings to Pentagon leaders on Thursday.” dt will more than likely sign the paperwork. It is all about him and he has to win at all costs! Me me me me - win win win win!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 19:58:22 GMT
Evan McMullin
“We worry about renewed foreign disinformation in 2020 and we should, but Trump and his allies have clearly learned how to do it themselves. There are essentially no checks on their ability to spew massive amounts of disinformation throughout the country if they do it themselves.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 20:10:28 GMT
Reuters..
”On Iraq visit, Pence reassures Kurds and discusses protests with prime minister”
Like the Kurds are going to believe anything the US says.
#MAGA
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 23, 2019 21:39:17 GMT
Reuters.. ”On Iraq visit, Pence reassures Kurds and discusses protests with prime minister” Like the Kurds are going to believe anything the US says. #MAGA He also said something to the effect that 'we' do not forget those who have supported us as he mentioned the Kurds. Oh really!?!?! We sure left them hanging in Syria/Turkey and in fact the Kurds have turned to Russia for help!! We did a great job with that!! NOT!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 21:52:37 GMT
I don't have a "hit list" PLENTY of excuses. You just refuse to see them and/or be empathetic to them. 1. I do believe you have a hit list and that is anyone with money. You are very clear on that IMO I do not have a "hit list". Please stop using that terminology. It is offensive. I do want billionaires to have to pay more taxes. That <> "hit list". Geezus chreezus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 0:12:12 GMT
1. I do believe you have a hit list and that is anyone with money. You are very clear on that IMO I do not have a "hit list". Please stop using that terminology. It is offensive. I do want billionaires to have to pay more taxes. That <> "hit list". Geezus chreezus. And I find it just as offensive when you imply I have no empathy toward people because I see something a bit different then you do.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 0:27:59 GMT
I do not have a "hit list". Please stop using that terminology. It is offensive. I do want billionaires to have to pay more taxes. That <> "hit list". Geezus chreezus. And I find it just as offensive when you imply I have no empathy toward people because I see something a bit different then you do. "No excuses" were your words. "No excuses" is the antithesis of empathy, imo. "Hit List" is terrorist speak. Especially since even a brief read of my posts would show that I abhor violence and especially gun violence. False equivalence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 0:55:45 GMT
This could be huge...
How a Facebook Employee Helped Trump Win—But Switched Sides for 2020 James Barnes is now focused on using digital-ad strategies to try to get Trump out of office
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 1:35:25 GMT
Devin Nunes
“CNN Parrots a Farcical Conspiracy Theory About Devin Nunes and Ukraine”
This is rich coming from the guy who on national tv at the impeachment hearings push the Russian generated conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine and the DNC that mettled in the 2016 elections. This in spite of what the intelligence community and a Senate Report said.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Nov 24, 2019 2:14:31 GMT
And yet another example of trump #MAGA MSNBC ”BREAKING: US Navy Sec. Richard Spencer has strongly considered resigning over President Trump's handling of the case of a SEAL accused of murder; has told the White House that a tweet is not an official order.” ”Sec. Spencer responded Thursday by telling the White House that a tweet is not an official order and if the president is ordering the Navy to end the Trident Review Board of Gallagher, he needs to do so in writing, officials say.” ”Four officials familiar with Sec. Spencer’s thinking say he will resign if President Trump signs a written order to end the Navy probe. He conveyed those feelings to Pentagon leaders on Thursday.” dt will more than likely sign the paperwork. It is all about him and he has to win at all costs! Me me me me - win win win win! It will play right into Trump's hands if senior military officials step down and are replaced with yes-men. Yay for a military led by yes-men appointed by a narcissist who panders to global dictators. Thanks to the Republicans, Trump is going to get away with a slap on the wrist (impeachment, perhaps, but not removal). No real repercussions for his appalling behavior, which means it will continue and, undoubtedly, worsen and become bolder. Because why not? Who's stopping him? He only cares what the Republicans and his people say, and they're all supporting him by finding excuses to dismiss the process of impeachment while conveniently ignoring the behavior that inspired the articles of impeachment in the first place.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 24, 2019 2:25:38 GMT
He only cares what the Republicans and his people say, and they're all supporting him by finding excuses to dismiss the process of impeachment while conveniently ignoring the behavior that inspired the articles of impeachment in the first place. Amazingly if they are afraid of him now what do they think their lives will be like or worth if he gets a second term, which I do believe may well destroy democracy with his lawlessness! Have they not seen all those who have backed away from him and how he tries to discredit them and tries to destroy them.. Famous quote, "I hardly know him/her!"
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 24, 2019 2:54:54 GMT
THIS is one of the big problems right now....... Two weeks of public testimony has revealed new, damaging details of the Trump administration’s dealings with Ukraine, but witnesses who come before Congress and the American people have had to pay a price. Witnesses have endured harassment, threats and attacks on their personal character as they are suddenly thrust into public view. Those who’ve given testimony have described such incidents in both closed and open hearings during the impeachment inquiry detailing their experiences related to the Ukraine scandal. President Trump himself has tweeted negatively about some of the witnesses, calling them “Never Trumpers,” knocking the quality of their service and questioning their loyalty. ** more at link: thehill.com/homenews/house/471703-impeachment-witnesses-come-under-threats-harassment
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 24, 2019 4:07:20 GMT
Biden reveals info about 4 women he could consider as VP. No Name though. Biden did not say any specific names, but he said multiple people are qualified, including “the former assistant attorney general who got fired," referring to former Attorney General Sally Yates; "the woman who should have been the governor of Georgia," referring to Stacey Abrams; and "the two senators from the state of New Hampshire," referring to U.S. Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D) and Maggie Hassan (D). ** more at link: thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471810-biden-reveals-four-women-he-could-pick-as-his-running-mate
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