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Post by 950nancy on Nov 19, 2019 0:36:55 GMT
I feel like I need a cheat sheet, or cliff note explanations to even read this thread. I have always been interested in what we call certain generations (for my job). I was thrilled to find out that I wasn't a Boomer by the new age bracket- it used to be 1965 was the cut off. Now it is 1964. (Boomer is a title given to kids born post WW2.) Cliff Notes: Every generation gets blamed for things and they don't like it. Many previous generations like to make the newer generation feel like they had it harder. Some is accurate, some not. I do always chuckle at some of my old students posting on FB about how the kids in the 90's had it so much more difficult than kids today. It is only a matter of time before the 2010 kids start doing the same! |
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Post by Sorrel on Nov 19, 2019 1:09:31 GMT
The Colorado pension is only good if you never had a job where you paid SS. I’ve been contributing to PERA here in Colorado for 10 years. Before that I worked in the private sector. I will never get a full pension because I won’t have enough PERA years by the time I retire. But apparently because I was stupid enough to spend half my career in the public sector and half in the private, the Windfall Elimination Provision will take 40% of my social security benefit. If my husband dies before me, it will do the same to my spouse benefit. Nice. That isn't true for me. I had 6 years of working for SS prior to my teaching job. I was able to buy 4 of those years and add them to my years of service as a teacher. I also started my teaching career at 22, so retiring was much easier at a younger age. My husband did the same thing, but he was able to buy 6 years of service. ETA: I don't get 100% of my pension with 32 years of service. I would have to have 40 years of service to get that, and anyone who has been in the classroom lately knows that 40 years is doable, but very rare. I get 80% and work part-time at a job where I am paid per hour what I received as a teacher with a master's degree, 70 additional credit hours, and 28 years of service. Kind of crazy. I’ve had 19 years of private sector and it’s just terrible they could take almost half. Was it expensive to buy years? |
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 19, 2019 1:28:29 GMT
That isn't true for me. I had 6 years of working for SS prior to my teaching job. I was able to buy 4 of those years and add them to my years of service as a teacher. I also started my teaching career at 22, so retiring was much easier at a younger age. My husband did the same thing, but he was able to buy 6 years of service. ETA: I don't get 100% of my pension with 32 years of service. I would have to have 40 years of service to get that, and anyone who has been in the classroom lately knows that 40 years is doable, but very rare. I get 80% and work part-time at a job where I am paid per hour what I received as a teacher with a master's degree, 70 additional credit hours, and 28 years of service. Kind of crazy. I’ve had 19 years of private sector and it’s just terrible they could take almost half. Was it expensive to buy years? We bought back in 2002. It was so much less expensive then (and my paycheck was pretty dismal even thought I had put in 15 years already). It was 77K for 10 years. At the time that was a ton of money and it all had to come out of our paychecks- not savings or a gift. We put every cent of our paychecks into that and lived off of very minimal savings and some money my dad had left me. We also had two little kids at the time. Looking back, it seems crazy, but thankfully it has paid off. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 19, 2019 1:40:41 GMT
I do not care for OK Boomer, and anymore I find it pointless to engage with Trump supporters.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 19, 2019 1:43:40 GMT
Considering that the last discussion I witnessed on this topic was full of people explaining that it’s the attitude, not the age, all the while complaining about how Boomers have destroyed the world for younger generations ... I am unimpressed. It’s kind of like how fat people are the last group you can still safely mock ... you can also lump a quarter of the population together for all the fun insults, and if they complain, you can respond OKAY BOOMER. And laugh and laugh. Nice. Completely agree, Lucy. From my perspective, I have been supportive of younger people. I mentor several of them at work, and we get along fine. As an older person, you often find that people begin to treat you differently. I’ve gotten used to “hon” and “dear,” which I was seldom called before my mid-fifties. And now I find myself lumped in with others my age who have a completely different view of the world than I do. It feels condescending and dismissive. 🤷♀️ That may not be the intent, but that is how it comes across. |
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Post by Sorrel on Nov 19, 2019 3:49:25 GMT
I’ve had 19 years of private sector and it’s just terrible they could take almost half. Was it expensive to buy years? We bought back in 2002. It was so much less expensive then (and my paycheck was pretty dismal even thought I had put in 15 years already). It was 77K for 10 years. At the time that was a ton of money and it all had to come out of our paychecks- not savings or a gift. We put every cent of our paychecks into that and lived off of very minimal savings and some money my dad had left me. We also had two little kids at the time. Looking back, it seems crazy, but thankfully it has paid off. Interesting. I will look into that. I’m 48, and I don’t think I can work until I’m 65 in the schools. |
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Post by luckyexwife on Nov 19, 2019 3:51:33 GMT
I feel like I need a cheat sheet, or cliff note explanations to even read this thread. I have always been interested in what we call certain generations (for my job). I was thrilled to find out that I wasn't a Boomer by the new age bracket- it used to be 1965 was the cut off. Now it is 1964. (Boomer is a title given to kids born post WW2.) Cliff Notes: Every generation gets blamed for things and they don't like it. Many previous generations like to make the newer generation feel like they had it harder. Some is accurate, some not. I do always chuckle at some of my old students posting on FB about how the kids in the 90's had it so much more difficult than kids today. It is only a matter of time before the 2010 kids start doing the same! I agree, and I always found it interesting that each generation blames the next one for all the problems and issues. My comment was just referring to the fact that I don't know the up-to-date current insults, and I need to figure it all out before I can understand this thread! |
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Post by Jen in NCal on Nov 19, 2019 4:54:47 GMT
I didn't see any reference to how Trump used it but I thought "OK, Boomer" was the written (typed?) version of the middle finger and an eye roll. Kind of like calling someone Grandpa when they talk about the old days. "OK, Grandpa, whatever."
Is Trump saying that when, for example, Pelosi says something, he will respond with "OK, Trumper, whatever"?
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Post by hop2 on Nov 19, 2019 5:24:15 GMT
Millennials have been taking it on the chin for awhile (they are whiney, lazy, etc) that I am not surprised by it. Neither is okay. Both sets add value to the world. #OKTrumper is unnecessary too. There will be one for liberals before tomorrow. It doesn’t help just keeps the divide going. Hon, they've been using liberal as a pejorative for the past thirty-plus years. Bring it on. #OKLiberal? Yep, and proud of it. Move on. I'm honestly floored by the complete inability of an entire generation to laugh at themselves in this case. I guess I go back to Mr. Bennett in P&P: "For what do we live, but to make sport for our neighbours, and laugh at them in our turn?" I don't get the outrage. Boomers are apparently the only generation that is to be immune from any pointed humor? Well, okLiberal is better than ‘Libtard’ which I hate. IMO these generational labels do nothing positive. While I get the desire to try to ‘label’ People according to shared experiences that may or may not have shaped them, in practice it comes off as trite & divisive, not to mention inaccurate. Every one is different - and no ‘generation’ can be the same as any before them because society is constantly changing. Many of those changes are for the better but those don’t seem to get brought out in conversation as much. It’s also a matter of perception. When one generation is raised by another they react to what they feel ‘went wrong’ I’m pretty sure I’ve said this before you can choose to think ‘millennials’ are lazy, special, snowflakes, who can’t stay in one job for long, job hopping blah blah blah OR you can choose to see that millennials watched the generation before them ( or maybe their grandparents? ) loyally work long hard decades many times for a single employer then get screwed out of pensions/retirement right at retirement time. When that didn’t work out so great because the employers weren’t exactly loyal in return why would the next generation lather rinse repeat? Why wouldn’t they seek to change things up? Many of the things/ behaviors that are labeled as ‘bad’ for newer generations are actually subconscious reactions to what didn’t work out the best for a previous generation. And those who it didn’t work out for react with bitterness rather than respect when pointing out the reactive generational behavioral change. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Nov 19, 2019 13:48:30 GMT
GenX: Whatever. We're at work, paying for social security we'll never receive. So we'll say what we want and you can keep ignoring us like always. I said the other day - You know you're Gen X when your parents call you Millennials and your Gen-Z kids call you Boomers. Me, I'm just sitting in the corner drinking. ETA - I find 'Okay Boomer' hilarious. If you bitch about 'kids these days', think climate change is a grand conspiracy, complain about not being able to say 'Merry Christmas' any more, and claim that everything was so much better when every school day started with the Lord's Prayer - chances are 'okay boomer' applies. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 14:04:59 GMT
GenX: Whatever. We're at work, paying for social security we'll never receive. So we'll say what we want and you can keep ignoring us like always. I said the other day - You know you're Gen X when your parents call you Millennials and your Gen-Z kids call you Boomers. Me, I'm just sitting in the corner drinking. ETA - I find 'Okay Boomer' hilarious. If you bitch about 'kids these days', think climate change is a grand conspiracy, complain about not being able to say 'Merry Christmas' any more, and claim that everything was so much better when every school day started with the Lord's Prayer - chances are 'okay boomer' applies.I bet #OKTrumper would apply even more.  |
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Post by Merge on Nov 19, 2019 14:23:55 GMT
GenX: Whatever. We're at work, paying for social security we'll never receive. So we'll say what we want and you can keep ignoring us like always. I said the other day - You know you're Gen X when your parents call you Millennials and your Gen-Z kids call you Boomers. Me, I'm just sitting in the corner drinking. ETA - I find 'Okay Boomer' hilarious. If you bitch about 'kids these days', think climate change is a grand conspiracy, complain about not being able to say 'Merry Christmas' any more, and claim that everything was so much better when every school day started with the Lord's Prayer - chances are 'okay boomer' applies. Or if you sit there collecting my social security payments and cheering trillions spent on foreign wars in the name of “security” and defending the right of billionaires to pay less in taxes, while simultaneously railing that we can’t afford healthcare, higher education or renewable energy to benefit the younger generations. OK, Boomer. (And there are GenX and Millennial folks who fall into all those categories except collecting social security). |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Nov 19, 2019 15:08:49 GMT
I said the other day - You know you're Gen X when your parents call you Millennials and your Gen-Z kids call you Boomers. Me, I'm just sitting in the corner drinking. ETA - I find 'Okay Boomer' hilarious. If you bitch about 'kids these days', think climate change is a grand conspiracy, complain about not being able to say 'Merry Christmas' any more, and claim that everything was so much better when every school day started with the Lord's Prayer - chances are 'okay boomer' applies.I bet #OKTrumper would apply even more. Except most of my boomer friends are Canadian.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 15:39:02 GMT
I bet #OKTrumper would apply even more. Except most of my boomer friends are Canadian. I bet they still eat up Trump w a big greedy spoon. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Nov 19, 2019 16:54:39 GMT
Except most of my boomer friends are Canadian. I bet they still eat up Trump w a big greedy spoon. Yeah, that's not really a thing here - we're culturally disposed to hate politicians the second we vote for them. |
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Nov 19, 2019 17:28:39 GMT
It comes down to this: Is there ever a time to call someone a name or call them out is a snarky way or not?
Possible Answers:
A. Yes, if I don't like something/someone or their behavior or their statements, I can call them whatever I want and they can call me whatever they want.
B. Yes, if I don't like something/someone or their behavior or their statements, I can call them whatever I want, but they cannot call me anything not nice.
C. Yes, but there are rules. If they call me/my "people" something derogatory FIRST or are REALLY REALLY mean, I can fire back at them.
D. No, if they go low about me or my people, I must always go high.
I try really hard to do "D", but I am sometimes a "C." I haven't seriously called someone a boomer, but I completely understand and have been tempted to when someone with a boomer attitude called other generations snowflakes or Tide Pod eaters, etc...
I know it gets fuzzier when we are talking about choices vs. non-choices. But, assuming OK, Boomer is about what you say and not your age, there isn't a difference between OK Trumper and Ok Boomer and Ok, Snowflake and OK Tide Pod Eater and OK Libtard and OK Cheeto Worshiper...
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Post by sassyangel on Nov 19, 2019 17:49:40 GMT
Just adding this I just saw on Buzzfeed to the liberal insults collection. This asshat used Democrat as an insult. 😂  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 18:48:17 GMT
I said the other day - You know you're Gen X when your parents call you Millennials and your Gen-Z kids call you Boomers. Me, I'm just sitting in the corner drinking. ETA - I find 'Okay Boomer' hilarious. If you bitch about 'kids these days', think climate change is a grand conspiracy, complain about not being able to say 'Merry Christmas' any more, and claim that everything was so much better when every school day started with the Lord's Prayer - chances are 'okay boomer' applies. Or if you sit there collecting my social security payments and cheering trillions spent on foreign wars in the name of “security” and defending the right of billionaires to pay less in taxes, while simultaneously railing that we can’t afford healthcare, higher education or renewable energy to benefit the younger generations. OK, Boomer. (And there are GenX and Millennial folks who fall into all those categories except collecting social security). You do know your hostile attacks against folks who decide to retire and collect Social Security are misguided don’t you? Your beef is with the elected politicians who have known for years changes needed to be made to Social Security to keep it viable but have done nothing. Not with the people who decide to retire ,for a number of reason, and collect Social Security. You don’t like the way things are going with Social Security, then you had better get cracking and work to elect politicians that will make the hard decisions even if it means they are voted out of office afterwards. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 19, 2019 23:34:56 GMT
Or if you sit there collecting my social security payments and cheering trillions spent on foreign wars in the name of “security” and defending the right of billionaires to pay less in taxes, while simultaneously railing that we can’t afford healthcare, higher education or renewable energy to benefit the younger generations. OK, Boomer. (And there are GenX and Millennial folks who fall into all those categories except collecting social security). You do know your hostile attacks against folks who decide to retire and collect Social Security are misguided don’t you? Your beef is with the elected politicians who have known for years changes needed to be made to Social Security to keep it viable but have done nothing. Not with the people who decide to retire ,for a number of reason, and collect Social Security. You don’t like the way things are going with Social Security, then you had better get cracking and work to elect politicians that will make the hard decisions even if it means they are voted out of office afterwards. I wrote out a long, angry reply, but you know what? It's not worth it. I'll just say that this attitude is exactly why this meme was created. OK, Boomer. You're not going to help, so we're moving on without you. |
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