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Post by missysauter on Oct 20, 2014 19:29:49 GMT
I've looked and can't find the answer - how did the cruise ship find out about the passenger had worked in the lab in the hospital where the man died of Ebola?
Does the CDC have a list they are sharing? Did this person come forward on her own?
Just curious.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 19:36:38 GMT
No idea but I think it is terrible what they did to her and others that were on that ship. She didn't even have contact with him. Ridiculous. Teachers were told not to go to work because they were on the cruise. Seriously out of control.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:00:04 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids.
What I read said she came forward when she realized. She was aboard before the CDC issued monitoring requirements.
The cruise line was dumb in my opinion to divert the entire ship...why not just put her off and fly her home?
ETA: the thread title is kindof overkill. She's still symptom free at day 19.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 20, 2014 20:02:05 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids. What I read said she came forward when she realized. The cruise line was dumb in my opinion to divert the entire ship...why not just put her off and fly her home? Even if they did, the cruise would not have gone on as planned. Belize was refusing to let anyone from that ship to be let out.
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Post by Dictionary on Oct 20, 2014 20:05:34 GMT
I read the FBI or some sort of police tracked her down (the hospital realized she has been exposed) and then she volunteered to put herself in isolation. It's ironic but I told dh after the first nurse was diagnosed, it's just a matter of time before someone gets on one of these cruise ships..feeling poorly but not wanting to miss their cruise and they will be stuck out in the middle of the ocean somewhere. Then what..I suppose they could air lift but I hope these ships get wise and get prepared for something like this because it's fairly likely it could happen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:05:37 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids. What I read said she came forward when she realized. She was aboard before the CDC issued monitoring requirements. The cruise line was dumb in my opinion to divert the entire ship...why not just put her off and fly her home? And lab techs everywhere across the country are in contact with fluids with infectious diseases. They aren't stopping them. I stand by what I said. It is a huge overreaction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:06:21 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids. What I read said she came forward when she realized. She was aboard before the CDC issued monitoring requirements. The cruise line was dumb in my opinion to divert the entire ship...why not just put her off and fly her home? And lab techs everywhere across the country are in contact with fluids with infectious diseases. They aren't stopping them. I stand by what I said. It is a huge overreaction. I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:07:07 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids. What I read said she came forward when she realized. The cruise line was dumb in my opinion to divert the entire ship...why not just put her off and fly her home? Even if they did, the cruise would not have gone on as planned. Belize was refusing to let anyone from that ship to be let out. This is incorrect. Everyone else got off. They just wouldn't let her off.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 20, 2014 20:10:42 GMT
Even if they did, the cruise would not have gone on as planned. Belize was refusing to let anyone from that ship to be let out. This is incorrect. Everyone else got off. They just wouldn't let her off. Yes, but then I think Mexico wouldn't let the ship into port. The whole thing is pretty ridiculous.
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Post by Megan on Oct 20, 2014 20:19:38 GMT
Even if they did, the cruise would not have gone on as planned. Belize was refusing to let anyone from that ship to be let out. This is incorrect. Everyone else got off. They just wouldn't let her off. She wasn't allowed off in Belize. It was Mexico that didn't allow the ship to dock in Cozumel.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 20, 2014 20:20:10 GMT
Even if they did, the cruise would not have gone on as planned. Belize was refusing to let anyone from that ship to be let out. This is incorrect. Everyone else got off. They just wouldn't let her off. Oh, okay. That's not what I read. I read that they would not let anyone off.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 20, 2014 20:24:25 GMT
That may be the case, but THIS is where I got the infoPassengers aboard the cruise ship at the centre of an Ebola scare were in a panic after being refused to dock at either Mexico or Belize, with one claiming “it’s like a floating petri dish.”
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Post by mzza111 on Oct 20, 2014 20:27:25 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids. I haven't heard the details but isn't a better description "she's a lab tech who touched a vial containing his fluid"? She didn't have direct contact with is fluids, right? No snark intended, just a real question.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:38:04 GMT
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 20, 2014 20:38:52 GMT
Okay, that may be the case. Just stating what I read. I had not read any other articles or heard any further info on the news.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:44:03 GMT
A friend of a friend was on the cruise and stated the rest of the passengers got to get off at Belize City, but the Belize govt would not allow the lab tech off to be flown back to the US. And when they got close to Cozumel the Mexican navy escorted them back to International waters. Carnival has given them on board money and discounts on later cruises. Supposedly the Carnival employees were wonderful about it all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:48:26 GMT
She's a lab tech who had contact with his fluids. I haven't heard the details but isn't a better description "she's a lab tech who touched a vial containing his fluid"? She didn't have direct contact with is fluids, right? No snark intended, just a real question. you are absolutely correct and I thought better of the phrasing after posting but someone had already quoted my post and I feel odd about changing something after someone else quotes it. Lab techs all over "have contact" with all kinds of stuff, as someone else said. Contact isn't really "contact"...ya know.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Oct 20, 2014 23:49:37 GMT
I thought they landed a helicopter on the ship to test her and her test was negative.
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Post by gar on Oct 21, 2014 8:26:16 GMT
Passengers aboard the cruise ship at the centre of an Ebola scare were in a panic after being refused to dock at either Mexico or Belize, with one claiming “it’s like a floating petri dish.” Aren't all cruises like that? Not necessarily with Ebola obviously but there often seems to be some cruise or other where 90% of the passengers go down with V and D or something along those lines.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 21, 2014 13:13:27 GMT
Passengers aboard the cruise ship at the centre of an Ebola scare were in a panic after being refused to dock at either Mexico or Belize, with one claiming “it’s like a floating petri dish.” Aren't all cruises like that? Not necessarily with Ebola obviously but there often seems to be some cruise or other where 90% of the passengers go down with V and D or something along those lines. Pretty much. LOL
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Post by jamielynn on Oct 21, 2014 13:41:25 GMT
I heard the same about some countries not letting her/others off/out - and I can't say I blame them.
Did she end up de boarding and going home or staying after her test? How did she get home? I guess that wasn't a huge cause of concern at that point since her test was negative. How accurate are the tests? Why aren't they giving everyone they think was exposed said test?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 13:51:03 GMT
I heard the same about some countries not letting her/others off/out - and I can't say I blame them. Did she end up de boarding and going home or staying after her test? How did she get home? I guess that wasn't a huge cause of concern at that point since her test was negative. How accurate are the tests? Why aren't they giving everyone they think was exposed said test? Why do you think the countries shouldn't let her off? It makes no sense at all. And again Belize let everyone else off. And the tests are 100%. You either are infected or aren't. She was at the end of the 21 day incubation period anyway. She drove home. Why shouldn't she? Why aren't they testing others? Because it's pointless unless they are showing symptoms. I don't get the concern over this technician at all. Do you worry about all techs out there? They do this on a daily basis with highly contagious diseases.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Oct 21, 2014 14:00:27 GMT
I heard the same about some countries not letting her/others off/out - and I can't say I blame them. Did she end up de boarding and going home or staying after her test? How did she get home? I guess that wasn't a huge cause of concern at that point since her test was negative. How accurate are the tests? Why aren't they giving everyone they think was exposed said test? This is what this newspaper article said about how she got home: Cruise Ship
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Post by melissa on Oct 21, 2014 14:05:05 GMT
The issue was that the level of surveillance for her and anyone else changed as the situation developed while she was already on her vacation.
Her time from her theoretical exposure was coming to a close as the trip ended. She was already well past the usual 2-10 day time from for the development of symptoms. While the time from exposure to becoming contagious with symptoms goes out to about 20 days, the vast majority infected show symptoms in under 2 weeks.
I did not read that she had been tested. We've been told the results take 72 hrs to come back. It wouldn't make sense knowing that she was near the end of the 21 day period already.
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Post by jamielynn on Oct 21, 2014 14:42:17 GMT
I heard the same about some countries not letting her/others off/out - and I can't say I blame them. Did she end up de boarding and going home or staying after her test? How did she get home? I guess that wasn't a huge cause of concern at that point since her test was negative. How accurate are the tests? Why aren't they giving everyone they think was exposed said test? Why do you think the countries shouldn't let her off? It makes no sense at all. And again Belize let everyone else off. And the tests are 100%. You either are infected or aren't. She was at the end of the 21 day incubation period anyway. She drove home. Why shouldn't she? Why aren't they testing others? Because it's pointless unless they are showing symptoms. I don't get the concern over this technician at all. Do you worry about all techs out there? They do this on a daily basis with highly contagious diseases. When they felt she had potentially been exposed, and did not have test results - I felt the countries were smart to not allow her off. That is how this came to the U.S. once she was confirmed Ebola free - to me it is a non-issue but I do feel it is up to the country to determine what is best for their citizens health and safety.
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Post by annabella on Oct 21, 2014 15:23:25 GMT
What I want to know is will she be refunded for the cost of the cruise she missed by sitting in her cabin without ebola?
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Post by Nink on Oct 21, 2014 15:31:17 GMT
Passengers aboard the cruise ship at the centre of an Ebola scare were in a panic after being refused to dock at either Mexico or Belize, with one claiming “it’s like a floating petri dish.” Aren't all cruises like that? Not necessarily with Ebola obviously but there often seems to be some cruise or other where 90% of the passengers go down with V and D or something along those lines. This was pretty much my thought as well. If you're that worried about germs, then perhaps a cruise is not the vacation for you. (general you).
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Post by annabella on Oct 21, 2014 16:38:53 GMT
Why did this make the news? Seriously had it not, all of those passengers would have not had their vacations ruined because countries wouldn't let the ship dock.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 17:21:40 GMT
Why do you think the countries shouldn't let her off? It makes no sense at all. And again Belize let everyone else off. And the tests are 100%. You either are infected or aren't. She was at the end of the 21 day incubation period anyway. She drove home. Why shouldn't she? Why aren't they testing others? Because it's pointless unless they are showing symptoms. I don't get the concern over this technician at all. Do you worry about all techs out there? They do this on a daily basis with highly contagious diseases. When they felt she had potentially been exposed, and did not have test results - I felt the countries were smart to not allow her off. That is how this came to the U.S. once she was confirmed Ebola free - to me it is a non-issue but I do feel it is up to the country to determine what is best for their citizens health and safety. But she wasn't exposed to Duncan. And no this is not how it came here. Lab workers are handling specimens. They don't have contact with the patients. They deal with things like HIV, tuberculosis and other highly infectious diseases all the time. No one is stoping them from traveling.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 21, 2014 18:14:06 GMT
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