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Post by J u l e e on Feb 18, 2020 20:32:12 GMT
It’s only $959 a ticket
June 20 - Allegiant Air departs Cincinnati 6:30 AM arrives Newark 9:00 AM - 14 hour 20 minute layover (put luggage in a locker and take the train into Manhattan for the afternoon)
June 20 - Openskies Air departs Newark 11:20 PM arrives Paris Orly 12:40 PM the next day on June 21 - 21 hour 5 min layover (unless you sleep in the airport, you will need a hotel room) (Go into Paris for the afternoon)
June 22 - Ryanair departs Paris Beauvais-Tille Airport 9:45 AM arrives Madrid 11:55
My daughter thinks it will be an adventure and will make our trip to Spain more interesting than just flying straight there. I’m up for it, but don’t want to be ridiculous about it either.
The other option is flying straight to Madrid (with a normal layover but I forget where) for about $1400 a ticket.
Be honest. Is that stupid or would you be game?
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Post by Montannie on Feb 18, 2020 20:35:16 GMT
I'd be exhausted.
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Post by sharlag on Feb 18, 2020 20:35:18 GMT
Does Paris have the same option to put your luggage in a locker? A combined $882 savings seems pretty persuasive.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 18, 2020 20:36:50 GMT
Be honest. Is that stupid or would you be game? Nope...no thanks.. |
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Post by mom on Feb 18, 2020 20:38:03 GMT
I would not like the 14 hr layover. By the time you get to Manhattan and where you want to go + then back in traffic + security + being 2 hours early for an international flight, I just dont think it would be worth it.
It would be a hard pass for me. I 'get' trying to cram as much as you can + bonus if you are saving some money, but even just thinking about all that in one day + traveling wears me out.
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 18, 2020 20:42:24 GMT
That sounds exhausting. I’d stay in Paris at least a day or two. There’s no rule that says you have to get on that last flight! Cheap Ryan Air flights are a dime a dozen. Just be aware of the luggage fees and the ticketing restrictions for non-EU passengers (must have a printed boarding pass or pay $$$).
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 18, 2020 20:45:18 GMT
No I wouldn’t.
And Allegiant air often gets cancelled and delayed and they don’t fly very often so it can really mess you up.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 18, 2020 20:50:04 GMT
Check the reviews on all three airlines!! Although late flights might not be a problem, one not going would be a serious issue!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 20:52:02 GMT
Openskies doesn't appear to be an actual airline. From what I googled, they ceased operating as an airline in 9/2018.  |
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 18, 2020 20:55:39 GMT
We’d get a hotel for the layover in Paris. We wouldn’t be going to Paris otherwise - our trip is to Spain, Portugal, and Morocco. The Paris part was just a bonus with the hacker fare.
I’m really not turned off by the exhausting part. And my 18 year old is always up for anything and never complains - she actually likes the travel part of trips as much as the trip.
But part of me just wants it to be easy.
But then part of me wants to tackle the adventure.
And then part of me doesn’t want to worry about canceled flights and taxis, etc.
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Post by janamke on Feb 18, 2020 20:59:53 GMT
I had no idea "hacker fares" were even a thing. It sounds wildly adventurous, why not try it?
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 18, 2020 21:01:59 GMT
Openskies doesn't appear to be an actual airline. From what I googled, they ceased operating as an airline in 9/2018. Well, that makes it difficult! My travel agent found that flight. She won’t book it (isn’t allowed to), but said I could if I wanted. I haven’t looked into it at all yet. I’m just waiting to get called back for my dentist appointment. I figured I’d have lots of replies by the time I got out. |
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Post by papersilly on Feb 18, 2020 21:03:27 GMT
no, but that's only because i'm a non-stop flight kind of girl. i hate airports as it is and layovers add to that general dislike. maybe if i was back in my 20's and money was tight or i was traveling with a new love and we had all the time in the world to get to know each other over layovers but not at this point in my life.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Feb 18, 2020 21:03:31 GMT
I would be one cranky bitch after all that. I would maybe be down for one of those long layovers but not both. Not to mention in Paris you will be jet lagged and smelly by the time you get there.
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Post by mustlovecats on Feb 18, 2020 21:03:36 GMT
Not me. This is entirely too many variables for me.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 18, 2020 21:18:18 GMT
can you do just the Paris part? We’re actually doing something similar next summer - but just one adventure lol. We arrive in afternoon and fly out the next morning. It was 500 cheaper per person and with 4 of us a no brainer to get a hotel. We thought it’d be fun. I think both would push me over though.
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Post by katlady on Feb 18, 2020 21:39:20 GMT
That would be a no for me. Too many long layovers and those are airlines I wouldn't be thrilled to fly with.
ETA - I would do a couple of days in Paris if I did try that itinerary.
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Post by janeinbama on Feb 18, 2020 21:45:06 GMT
Not worth going into NYC for me.. I would be too concerned about not getting back to Newark in a timely manner and then the entire trip falls apart. NYC is an easy hop from Cincy that you and her could do at any time.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 18, 2020 22:11:23 GMT
Traveling with an 18 year old would up my game. I'd do it. As long as I could have somewhere to sleep at night, it is an adventure.
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Post by Neisey on Feb 18, 2020 22:14:59 GMT
My 20 year old DD and I chose flights with long layovers when we were in Australia. It didn’t necessarily save us money but it did allow us to spend afternoons and evenings in Sydney and Brisbane which we otherwise probably would not have gone to. Our outbound flights were early morning so we left the Airbnb’s before heavy rush hour. We happily paid extra transportation costs and Airbnb so factor those into your “savings” of this cheaper flight. Have you been to Paris before? Is there a chance you would visit Paris on another trip in the next few years? If the answer is no then I would definitely do it. (Either on this deal or something similar)
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Post by elaine on Feb 18, 2020 22:19:37 GMT
It’s only $959 a ticket June 20 - Allegiant Air departs Cincinnati 6:30 AM arrives Newark 9:00 AM - 14 hour 20 minute layover (put luggage in a locker and take the train into Manhattan for the afternoon) June 20 - Openskies Air departs Newark 11:20 PM arrives Paris Orly 12:40 PM the next day on June 21 - 21 hour 5 min layover (unless you sleep in the airport, you will need a hotel room) (Go into Paris for the afternoon) June 22 - Ryanair departs Paris Beauvais-Tille Airport 9:45 AM arrives Madrid 11:55 My daughter thinks it will be an adventure and will make our trip to Spain more interesting than just flying straight there. I’m up for it, but don’t want to be ridiculous about it either. The other option is flying straight to Madrid (with a normal layover but I forget where) for about $1400 a ticket. Be honest. Is that stupid or would you be game? When are you flying? I priced tickets from Cincinnati to Madrid with only 1 stop on KLM for $969. 12 hours to get there, 18 hours to return. I would hate dealing with all those layovers with jet lag going on. I, personally, wouldn’t enjoy it. And what happens if it is raining the days you are having those brutal layovers? Will you want to get sopping wet and deal with packing wet clothes if you change? |
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 18, 2020 22:31:32 GMT
Openskies doesn't appear to be an actual airline. From what I googled, they ceased operating as an airline in 9/2018. Well, that makes it difficult! My travel agent found that flight. She won’t book it (isn’t allowed to), but said I could if I wanted. I haven’t looked into it at all yet. I’m just waiting to get called back for my dentist appointment. I figured I’d have lots of replies by the time I got out. Please update us with what you find out! |
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Post by artgirl1 on Feb 18, 2020 22:32:28 GMT
I would never fly into Newark to get into Manhattan. In the best of circumstances, you would get into Manhattan around noon, and need to leave by 4-5 to get back to Newark in time for the International flight at 11 pm. Seems like a waist of time and energy.
Take a direct flight to Paris, then stay 2 days or so, then take the high speed train to Spain.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 18, 2020 22:33:01 GMT
All air travel is torture. Long/extra layovers and no-name airlines = more than the usual torture. BUT at 18, I would have thought it sounded like a grand adventure.  (Of course, when I was 18, there was no TSA, no security lines, no hassles.) |
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Post by scorpeao on Feb 18, 2020 22:35:10 GMT
60 minutes did an expose on Allegiant Air a few years ago. If the ticket was free I wouldn't fly them.
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Post by peaname on Feb 18, 2020 22:39:50 GMT
If I was in my twenties? Sure. Now, no way
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Post by ~summer~ on Feb 18, 2020 22:41:45 GMT
Allegiant Airline flies to a bunch of small cities - in a single day they will have one plane that goes like OAKLAND to Eugene to Jackson Hole etc. but if the plane gets delayed or has engine problems in Oakland there will be a ripple affect and they have no other planes coming in. And they usually only fly like twice per week into a certain city. It’s not like Southwest Airlines which will have like 100 flights a day so you just hop on the next one. Like I said the potential for a delay that could mess up your whole trip is there...
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 18, 2020 22:42:01 GMT
It’s only $959 a ticket June 20 - Allegiant Air departs Cincinnati 6:30 AM arrives Newark 9:00 AM - 14 hour 20 minute layover (put luggage in a locker and take the train into Manhattan for the afternoon) June 20 - Openskies Air departs Newark 11:20 PM arrives Paris Orly 12:40 PM the next day on June 21 - 21 hour 5 min layover (unless you sleep in the airport, you will need a hotel room) (Go into Paris for the afternoon) June 22 - Ryanair departs Paris Beauvais-Tille Airport 9:45 AM arrives Madrid 11:55 My daughter thinks it will be an adventure and will make our trip to Spain more interesting than just flying straight there. I’m up for it, but don’t want to be ridiculous about it either. The other option is flying straight to Madrid (with a normal layover but I forget where) for about $1400 a ticket. Be honest. Is that stupid or would you be game? When are you flying? I priced tickets from Cincinnati to Madrid with only 1 stop on KLM for $969. 12 hours to get there, 18 hours to return. I would hate dealing with all those layovers with jet lag going on. I, personally, wouldn’t enjoy it. And what happens if it is raining the days you are having those brutal layovers? Will you want to get sopping wet and deal with packing wet clothes if you change? , this was the other flight she quoted for me that she could book - what dates did you use to find that fare you quoted? June 20 - KLM departs Cincinnati 2:10 PM arrives JFK 4:28 PM (3 hour 1 minute layover) KLM departs JFK 7:29 PM arrives Madrid 9:15 AM the next day on June 21 July 4 - KLM departs Madrid 10:15 AM arrives JFK 12:25 PM (4 hour 5 minute layover) KLM depart JFK 4:30 PM arrives Atlanta 7:13 PM (1 hour 16 minute layover) KLM departs Atlanta 8:29 PM arrives Cincinnati 9:55 PM $1322 per person without baggage fees and possible seat assignment fees |
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 18, 2020 22:46:54 GMT
I’m reading all these replies to Quinn because I really want her to think about it. We’re up and down. We laughed at the one cranky bitch comment, and ewww-ed at the smelly comment. We didn’t care about it being rainy.
I’m leaning away from the adventurous layover in Paris. We don’t really want to visit Paris on this trip, it just seemed like fun. But the uncertainty with Allegiant is making me lean toward going straight to Madrid.
I’m feeling practical. I’m officially old.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Feb 18, 2020 22:49:52 GMT
I suggest you go online and read as many reviews as you can on Allegiant. I personally won't fly them, or any other low cost carrier, especially for international trips with a limited time for travel. Also, Openskies airlines ceased operations in Sept. 2018. I would be very wary of any website that is showing itineraries that include them.
Google Flights is showing a ticket from Cincinnati to Madrid on Delta/KLM for $1,261 round trip. Total flight time over is 13 hrs. 5 min, including a 3 hr layover in JFK. You gain an extra day in Madrid that you won't have if you do those long layovers.
You need to decide what it more important, a vacation which maximizes your time in Spain, or hitting as many cities as you can in a week. The later option would be a very tiring trip with multiple plane changes and long layovers. Also keep in mind that with every plane change/layover, you introduce more opportunity for problems and delays to occur.
ETA: I see now that you've added the return date. The price I found was for a June 27 return, same flight you mentioned in your last report. There are flights that are a little less if you are flexible on your travel dates.
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