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Post by Peamac on Oct 22, 2014 15:57:55 GMT
And FTR they can have any views they want I don't care. But when you start trying to push your religious views on me I have a big problem. I'm prolife per my religion (all life not just the unborn) but I don't try to force that on others. How are they trying to push their religious views on you? The show is about what their family life is like, and why it is that way. Those are the questions the producers ask them to answer on camera. Like the Peas (well, Refupeas now) say, "If you don't like it, turn it off. No one's making you watch the show." The people I know who have met the Duggars in person have all said that they are as kind and sweet as they are shown on tv. And I agree with a previous poster that Kody Brown is the one that gives me the creeps!  |
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Post by padresfan619 on Oct 22, 2014 16:27:28 GMT
They talked about the NIKE thing on their own tv show. The boys just put their heads down to avert their eyes. Once they were watching their parents on an episode of The View and one of the girls kept her hand over the tv where there was an "immodestly dressed" woman.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:30:17 GMT
And FTR they can have any views they want I don't care. But when you start trying to push your religious views on me I have a big problem. I'm prolife per my religion (all life not just the unborn) but I don't try to force that on others. How are they trying to push their religious views on you? The show is about what their family life is like, and why it is that way. Those are the questions the producers ask them to answer on camera. Like the Peas (well, Refupeas now) say, "If you don't like it, turn it off. No one's making you watch the show." The people I know who have met the Duggars in person have all said that they are as kind and sweet as they are shown on tv. And I agree with a previous poster that Kody Brown is the one that gives me the creeps! Because they are involved in politics and trying to get gay marriage outlawed, birth controls banned, overturn roe vs wade, comparing transsexuals to pedophile, have christian principals put into law. That is forcing it on others. Josh is an executive director with the Family Research Council which is a known hate group. It isn't about the show. I could care less about that. |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 22, 2014 16:30:43 GMT
They talked about the NIKE thing on their own tv show. The boys just put their heads down to avert their eyes. Once they were watching their parents on an episode of The View and one of the girls kept her hand over the tv where there was an "immodestly dressed" woman. That is beyond stupid. But then again, considering the source I'm not surprised that they use this kind of tactic. What else do they do, flip magazines over like that one chick did in a thread way back when?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:32:01 GMT
@scrappower, where did you hear the NIKE thing? Are the guys supposed to avert their eyes when they year the word or how does having the codeword work? It has been in their shows and books. It is so they look at their shoes aka nikes |
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Post by jjpswife on Oct 22, 2014 16:37:34 GMT
Oh, good grief! That's really ridiculous.
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Post by billstergirl on Oct 22, 2014 16:48:15 GMT
I do find Jim Bob to be a little creepy in that opening segment when he kisses Michelle. I just think it is a little much. But I will say that I am completely sucked in and will watch the show when I get the chance. What drives me crazy though is those stinkin side hugs! I understand that they don't want the daughters full on hugging their boyfriend/ fiancé but they do it to everyone. The episode I watched last night showed Josh coming home and he gave Jill a side hug. Once they got to the Duggar house everyone came out to greet them and it was side hugs for everyone. I kind of expected the guys to do that handshake/hug/2 pats on the back thing that guys sometimes do but nope, they all stuck to the rule.
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Post by auntkelly on Oct 22, 2014 16:58:27 GMT
None of the Duggars give me the creeps, and I think it's because I have known a lot of families similar to the Duggars (although none of them had 18 kids).
I grew up in a small town in the 60s-70s in the middle of the Bible Belt and I knew a number of families who lived a lifestyle very similar to the Duggars. I never thought much about it. They were always nice people and never tried to force their views on anyone. There were several people in my high school class who grew up in this type of family and when they became adults they chose a very different lifestyle. Their families might have been disappointed, but as far as I know, none of them were shunned or disinherited, although I'm sure it happens in some families.
I've seen a few episodes of the Duggars, but not many. I think they are a nice family, but I get bored with the show after a few minutes. I will never understand why any family wants to be on reality tv. There is just not enough money in the world to convince me to put my family on reality tv.
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Post by whopea on Oct 22, 2014 17:11:43 GMT
I watched a full episode for the first time a few weeks ago. After watching it and seeing the grand house that they live in, the custom made furniture, new Apple laptops for each of the children, custom tour bus etc., etc. All I kept thinking was that I would like to see the network profile a regular quiverfull family that lives in a regular house with regular furniture and a van to haul eight children 11 and under in like an extended family member of mine. Definitely not for me, and I try to be open-minded about the beliefs of those in this movement. But I too cannot stand the misogyny and control. I don't know everything about the Duggars, but in the episodes I've caught, this "grand house" they live in was built in part by them. I think it took nearly 3 years to build because they did much of the labor themselves. The kitchen equipment was bought used at a flea market. Much of the furniture was bought second hand. Despite the fact that I think Jim Bob is kind of creepy, I think he's a smart investor. They often quote something like, buy used save the difference. IIRC they are totally debt free. I would much rather see a family live frugally as the Duggar's do then see Kate + 8 who used her show proceeds to get a new body, new house and many material goods. I think it's amazing that the Duggars stay true to their values even after earning money through fame on a television series. |
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Post by denda on Oct 22, 2014 17:46:37 GMT
No, they don't creep me out. I love watching their show.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Oct 22, 2014 17:49:02 GMT
Both Michelle and Jim Bob just seem.... a bit too happy...? It's freaking me out! Cause you KNOW those kind of people have a very ugly side when they get angry  According to what I read, in their religious beliefs, it is a sin to be anything other than happy. |
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Post by Peamac on Oct 22, 2014 19:28:04 GMT
How are they trying to push their religious views on you? The show is about what their family life is like, and why it is that way. Those are the questions the producers ask them to answer on camera. Like the Peas (well, Refupeas now) say, "If you don't like it, turn it off. No one's making you watch the show." The people I know who have met the Duggars in person have all said that they are as kind and sweet as they are shown on tv. And I agree with a previous poster that Kody Brown is the one that gives me the creeps! Because they are involved in politics and trying to get gay marriage outlawed, birth controls banned, overturn roe vs wade, comparing transsexuals to pedophile, have christian principals put into law. That is forcing it on others. Josh is an executive director with the Family Research Council which is a known hate group. It isn't about the show. I could care less about that. Ah- thanks for clarifying. I was thinking only of what the show is about (the topic of the OP), not their politics. |
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Post by brina on Oct 22, 2014 20:10:34 GMT
Yes they do. But I don't have any tolerance for misogyny. And with the political garbage they are pulling lately I just want to barf. They are on a family faith and freedom tour right now talking about how gay marriage is the downfall of society. SMH Let me preface this by saying I have never seen the show, although I am well aware of who they are. But where do you get misogyny from? I think they would argue that there is nothing more important or worthy of respect than a woman's role as a wife and mother, and that there is no job more powerful than raising children. To me, it is the lack of choice. I am a stay at home mother. This is a choice I made. My husband supports that choice. I went to college and grad school before having babies. Had I chosen to work outside the home my husband would have supported that choice as well. The Duggar women are denied the chance to get an education at a real school. They are denied the right to choose a career that interests them. The girls are required to help out in the house - cooking, cleaning, clearing and washing dishes, caring for younger siblings, laundry etc. The boys are not expected to do any of this. Sounds a lot like misogyny to me. |
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Post by rainangel on Oct 22, 2014 20:10:52 GMT
Both Michelle and Jim Bob just seem.... a bit too happy...? It's freaking me out! Cause you KNOW those kind of people have a very ugly side when they get angry According to what I read, in their religious beliefs, it is a sin to be anything other than happy. So their religion makes it a sin to bottle up all your feelings other than happy? That sounds healthy... If there are children in this religion being abused, at least they are not allowed to waste time being all sad and stuff, just put on a happy face and it'll be alright  Yeah....NO  Religion can be a good thing for a lot of people, but this is just plain unhealthy... |
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Post by jlynnbarth on Oct 22, 2014 22:08:26 GMT
Michelle is a licensed Real Estate Agent and the 2 oldest girls are training to be Midwives. The next oldest daughter is a trained Photographer and all 3 of them also take jobs playing their Harp and Violins. So they do work outside the home. Home Schooling wasn't a choice (as it isn't for many children once the parent makes that decision), but the girls can study anything they want once they have their GEDs. It is their choice. Now once they are married, who knows what choice they will make as far as working goes. We haven't seen that far into their lives yet. (I got that info off of Michelle's Blog and have seen it in action on the show.) Their life style is not one I would chose for myself, but I won't judge them for their choices. Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz.  |
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Post by Peamac on Oct 22, 2014 22:25:48 GMT
Both Michelle and Jim Bob just seem.... a bit too happy...? It's freaking me out! Cause you KNOW those kind of people have a very ugly side when they get angry According to what I read, in their religious beliefs, it is a sin to be anything other than happy. I'm curious where "their religion" says this. The Bible certainly doesn't. |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 22, 2014 23:22:58 GMT
Michelle is a licensed Real Estate Agent and the 2 oldest girls are training to be Midwives. The next oldest daughter is a trained Photographer and all 3 of them also take jobs playing their Harp and Violins. So they do work outside the home. Home Schooling wasn't a choice (as it isn't for many children once the parent makes that decision), but the girls can study anything they want once they have their GEDs. It is their choice. Now once they are married, who knows what choice they will make as far as working goes. We haven't seen that far into their lives yet. (I got that info off of Michelle's Blog and have seen it in action on the show.) Their life style is not one I would chose for myself, but I won't judge them for their choices. Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz. Really? Has their home schooling prepared them for college if that's what they choose? Will their parents encourage them to explore their skills and interests? Were they raised to believe they could do anything if they work for it, or do they think the home and child rearing are their sole responsibility? Are they even allowed to make their own choices in whom to marry, or does Daddy decide for them? Religious beliefs or not, their choice or not, I think it's a reprehensible way to raise children. They might as well be living in Saudi Arabia for all the real freedom those girls have. |
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Post by Judy26 on Oct 22, 2014 23:55:56 GMT
On a side note, can I just say that I find the term "quiverful" just all kinds of icky?!!?
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Post by 950nancy on Oct 23, 2014 0:06:45 GMT
I have seen bits and pieces here and there, but I am not a fan of what I have seen. I dunno, when the newly married ladies are giving marriage advice to the world, it seems a bit over the top. I would wait until I had a few years under my belt. I feel like the spin off families are going a bit Kardashian with being famous for kind of lame (in my opinion) reasons. I think they are going to over promote themselves and burn out. Maybe not, they have a big following. They just aren't my thing.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Oct 23, 2014 2:19:11 GMT
Lucyg, i don't know, I'm just sharing what I read on her blog. Like I said, I am not going to judge because I don't live it. To each their own as far as I am concerned. |
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Post by Sassenach on Oct 23, 2014 2:43:20 GMT
I choose not to watch the show (because from the little of it that I have seen) I find the misogony to be disgusting, especially in this day and age. It's just another way for "Jim Bob" to have complete control over his wife and family.
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Post by jackietex on Oct 23, 2014 5:33:01 GMT
I've watched the show for years and read one of their books. I feel like I've been watching a different show the most of the board. My lifestyle is pretty different from theirs, although I'm definitely conservative. I don't think any of them are creepy, although I usually reserve that word for Halloween decorations or perverts. IMO, Jim Bob looks clumsy and uncomfortable when he's kissing his wife on television. I do believe the family is very traditional in their views on men and women's roles in the home, and probably society. I believe if any of their children wanted to go to college, they would allowed and they would be prepared. What I've seen of their homeschooling over the years, they are as educated (at least) as the average kid in public high school. I have never seen any evidence of the level of control over the younger generation's lives that I see mentioned here time after time, it seems like a lot of assumptions to me. And many times I have seen the Duggars say something along the lines of, "This is what we believe we are called by God to do." I don't think I have ever heard them say, "This is how everyone should live and believe." Yes, they have their political beliefs and they work to see those things realized, but that's part of living in a democratic society.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 13:22:15 GMT
I've watched the show for years and read one of their books. I feel like I've been watching a different show the most of the board. My lifestyle is pretty different from theirs, although I'm definitely conservative. I don't think any of them are creepy, although I usually reserve that word for Halloween decorations or perverts. IMO, Jim Bob looks clumsy and uncomfortable when he's kissing his wife on television. I do believe the family is very traditional in their views on men and women's roles in the home, and probably society. I believe if any of their children wanted to go to college, they would allowed and they would be prepared. What I've seen of their homeschooling over the years, they are as educated (at least) as the average kid in public high school. I have never seen any evidence of the level of control over the younger generation's lives that I see mentioned here time after time, it seems like a lot of assumptions to me. And many times I have seen the Duggars say something along the lines of, "This is what we believe we are called by God to do." I don't think I have ever heard them say, "This is how everyone should live and believe." Yes, they have their political beliefs and they work to see those things realized, but that's part of living in a democratic society. When you try to legislate your religious views yes you are forcing them on others. I'm not christian and neither are millions of others. We don't need or want laws based on one religion. I would never try to do that with my religious beliefs. I don't understand why others feel they should. In fact it goes against why this country was founded. |
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