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Post by lucyg on Mar 25, 2020 1:35:12 GMT
I read today that Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University is welcoming students back to the dorms this week. 🤦♀️ Yes! I was going to start a thread, but didn't know how to post a link. Crazy!
Our district said they are still giving them off for Easter break because they had people call the school and say they had planned get togethers and travel to visit relatives. I thought we would still be social distancing at that point. I would rather do it a bit longer just to be safe. I will not feel comfortable seeing relatives and being in crowds so soon. Maybe I am just being too careful?
NO! You are not. Listen to the doctors, not the Republicans.
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Post by maryland on Mar 25, 2020 1:41:23 GMT
Yes! I was going to start a thread, but didn't know how to post a link. Crazy!
Our district said they are still giving them off for Easter break because they had people call the school and say they had planned get togethers and travel to visit relatives. I thought we would still be social distancing at that point. I would rather do it a bit longer just to be safe. I will not feel comfortable seeing relatives and being in crowds so soon. Maybe I am just being too careful?
NO! You are not. Listen to the doctors, not the Republicans. Thank you!
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Post by katlaw on Mar 25, 2020 2:22:24 GMT
I have no idea who the writer of that blog is and I acknowledge that he is an Epidemiologist but he's misinformed about the initial intention of our Government. Sir Patrick Vallance our Government's Chief Scientific Advisor at the time when the first few cases of the virus hit the UK when they were putting a plan in place on how to deal with it said, that at some point in the future, social distancing would inevitably be needed. He was then asked the question - Wouldn't clamping down too hard on the population through tight social distancing see it return in the future. To this he answered that the plan at that time was to delay the peak so as to not overwhelm the National Health Service to enable them cope with it but not to suppress it completely. He then went on to explain that some,in the meantime would be infected, but as the vast majority of people would only get a mild form of the virus then that would build a kind of herd immunity BUT two thirds of the population would need to be infected by it for that to happen and that wasn't their plan. In no way is that advocating herd immunity in the way the writer of that blog is suggesting and at no point did the CSO suggest it. Thanks for clarifying that. I do not know where he got his information. It is good we have such a large community, to be able to get the facts from people on scene
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Post by LiLi on Mar 25, 2020 2:24:13 GMT
I've never suggested that Trump gives a fuck about anyone and actually stated that in my post. I'm stating that some here are so anxious to bash Trump that their comments sound utterly callous to the millions of people who are out of work right now. ETA and in no way am I suggesting that some magic is going to happen on April 12th and he's doing nothing but dreaming - I'm saying there are many, many people who are stressed and anxious and it's beyond those with medical conditions who the peas seem to have no trouble empathizing with - empathizing with those who have economic impact for some reason is bringing a surprising lack of compassion. We are having a HUGE economic impact, our income is tied in with events as you can imagine, it's DEAD. The amount of bills and food we need will quickly add up to more than we have left due to a unusual show down in our business for the holidays. We finally caught up and our business was FINALLY in the positive and now this. We're tapped out. We also have a daughter with a heart issue and my brother has bad asthma. I STILL would rather put lives in front of money (economy).
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Post by edie3 on Mar 25, 2020 2:29:28 GMT
Darn it, this means I have to lose weight for my beach trip the following weekend.
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Post by Merge on Mar 25, 2020 2:31:47 GMT
Darn it, this means I have to lose weight for my beach trip the following weekend. No way, the Covid 15 will be a badge of honor at that point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 2:39:04 GMT
I have no idea who the writer of that blog is and I acknowledge that he is an Epidemiologist but he's misinformed about the initial intention of our Government. Sir Patrick Vallance our Government's Chief Scientific Advisor at the time when the first few cases of the virus hit the UK when they were putting a plan in place on how to deal with it said, that at some point in the future, social distancing would inevitably be needed. He was then asked the question - Wouldn't clamping down too hard on the population through tight social distancing see it return in the future. To this he answered that the plan at that time was to delay the peak so as to not overwhelm the National Health Service to enable them cope with it but not to suppress it completely. He then went on to explain that some,in the meantime would be infected, but as the vast majority of people would only get a mild form of the virus then that would build a kind of herd immunity BUT two thirds of the population would need to be infected by it for that to happen and that wasn't their plan. In no way is that advocating herd immunity in the way the writer of that blog is suggesting and at no point did the CSO suggest it. Thanks for clarifying that. I do not know where he got his information. It is good we have such a large community, to be able to get the facts from people on scene He's not the only one that took it all out of context. Some of the media here did the same thing but it really wasn't what he actually said if they had listened more carefully.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 25, 2020 2:47:38 GMT
He’s just bored of all this. It’s interfering with his executive time. Resents having to do these press conferences every day. Wants to get back to golfing and forget about all of it. Wants to hold more rallies, which he gets off on like the rest of us get off on other things. I thought he put Pence in charge to take the heat for any problems in managing the pandemic, but because he can't go to MAL, any of his golf courses or hold rallies with states limiting these activities, he is stuck in the WH. What's a bored prez going to do except wander around spewing his own theories based on instinct and gut feelings. Suddenly he is at the podium every damn day. I'm not sure he is resenting it as much as the briefings fill a void in his life right now.
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Post by Jili on Mar 25, 2020 2:50:52 GMT
He’s just bored of all this. It’s interfering with his executive time. Resents having to do these press conferences every day. Wants to get back to golfing and forget about all of it. Wants to hold more rallies, which he gets off on like the rest of us get off on other things. I thought he put Pence in charge to take the heat for any problems in managing the pandemic, but because he can't go to MAL, any of his golf courses or hold rallies with states limiting these activities, he is stuck in the WH. What's a bored prez going to do except wander around spewing his own theories based on instinct and gut feelings. Suddenly he is at the podium every damn day. I'm not sure he is resenting it as much as the briefings fill a void in his life right now. I see your point. These briefings are a bit like a rally for him. He has to restrain a bit though, and that must be so tiring for him. 🙄 He really is like a small child.
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Post by edie3 on Mar 25, 2020 2:59:32 GMT
No way, the Covid 15 will be a badge of honor at that point. along with my gray roots!
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Post by lucyg on Mar 25, 2020 3:40:56 GMT
My family is taking a financial hit from this mess, but it’s okay ... we will dust ourselves off when it’s over and rebuild. A damaged economy can be fixed with time and good management. Dead people can’t rebuild. Dead doctors can’t heal sick people. A traumatized population may not be capable of finding its way back to a healthy, productive society. The health and welfare of the population, meeting people’s basic needs while we’re in the middle of this crisis, is more important than keeping the stock market at an artificially-high level. Keeping people alive is more important than keeping people rich. The Democrats want to feed people and make sure they have health care. They want to enforce shelter-in-place to keep people alive. The Republicans want to take half a trillion dollars of taxpayer money and give it to Trump cronies with no accountability. They want to eliminate the measures public health experts are recommending, in order to keep business hopping. (Spoiler alert: it won’t be hopping when half the population is sick or dying.) I can’t believe you’re defending this crap. What exactly did I defend? I said don't post oblivious to the fact that there are those who are stressed and worried about the economic impact - surely that's not too much to ask that people not be heartless bitches, but okay then? I don’t think anyone is oblivious to the economic impact, we’re just focused on the health threats at the moment. It seems like your post struck many of us the same way, based on the responses. But I’m sorry if I overreacted. I know you have a good heart and soul. ETA Darcy Collins, did you delete your response? Honestly, I’m sorry. I’ll delete this post if you want me to.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 25, 2020 3:44:22 GMT
What exactly did I defend? I said don't post oblivious to the fact that there are those who are stressed and worried about the economic impact - surely that's not too much to ask that people not be heartless bitches, but okay then? I don’t think anyone is oblivious to the economic impact, we’re just focused on the health threats at the moment. It seems like your post struck many of us the same way, based on the responses. But I’m sorry if I overreacted. I know you have a good heart and soul. I deleted my post as I regretted it - I have a ton of family who are really hurting. It's not easier that I don't have the same economic stress. It bothers me a lot that people seem to be oblivious that there are a lot of people in a whole lot of pain. I get the fact that people want to criticize Trump, I'm not defending him - I'm saying in your rush to say he's an idiot, realize that you can frame it in ways that isn't totally missing the pain people are feeling - and if it's easier, at least 90% of my family are Californians who've never dreamed of voting for a Republican.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 25, 2020 4:05:10 GMT
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Post by LiLi on Mar 25, 2020 4:06:39 GMT
I don’t think anyone is oblivious to the economic impact, we’re just focused on the health threats at the moment. It seems like your post struck many of us the same way, based on the responses. But I’m sorry if I overreacted. I know you have a good heart and soul. I deleted my post as I regretted it - I have a ton of family who are really hurting. It's not easier that I don't have the same economic stress. It bothers me a lot that people seem to be oblivious that there are a lot of people in a whole lot of pain. I get the fact that people want to criticize Trump, I'm not defending him - I'm saying in your rush to say he's an idiot, realize that you can frame it in ways that isn't totally missing the pain people are feeling - and if it's easier, at least 90% of my family are Californians who've never dreamed of voting for a Republican. I am not meaning this as an attack. Just raw feelings. If *you* put *your* money issues in front of *other's* health and LIFE concerns, it IS wrong and callous. Chances are, they can and will get help with those economic issues. Unlike the dead people. (full disclosure, I saw your other post)
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 25, 2020 4:07:02 GMT
I don’t think anyone is oblivious to the economic impact, we’re just focused on the health threats at the moment. It seems like your post struck many of us the same way, based on the responses. But I’m sorry if I overreacted. I know you have a good heart and soul. I deleted my post as I regretted it - I have a ton of family who are really hurting. It's not easier that I don't have the same economic stress. It bothers me a lot that people seem to be oblivious that there are a lot of people in a whole lot of pain. I get the fact that people want to criticize Trump, I'm not defending him - I'm saying in your rush to say he's an idiot, realize that you can frame it in ways that isn't totally missing the pain people are feeling - and if it's easier, at least 90% of my family are Californians who've never dreamed of voting for a Republican. I’m really sorry things are awful for your family. Sincerely. I get the anxiety and frustration of not being able to do anything about it, that it makes you feel. I’m barely sleeping these days, so I understand. I’m trying to direct my anger where I feel it belongs, but I did not mean to be harsh to you in my response at all. I apologize if I came off that way. I certainly didn’t mean to take out my aggravations with this administration on others. For me, it doesn’t have to be either or. You can have compassion for people who are without jobs now and worried about how to pay their bills, or have the stress of employees depending on them with no business coming in, and do what you can to do your bit to help at a local level - and still find this particular posed strategy of the President reprehensible and short sighted.
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Post by Legacy Girl on Mar 25, 2020 4:22:08 GMT
Thankful every day for Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and the director of the Ohio Department of Health, Dr. Amy Acton.
DeWine gets it. His quote for today was as follows: ““Every single day I think about those of you who are unemployed. I think about the small businesses. I know that each day that goes by that you don’t have income is very, very tough. And I fully understand that,” DeWine said."The truth is that protecting people and protecting the economy are not mutually exclusive. In fact, one depends on the other. We save our economy by first saving lives. And we have to do it in that order.”
Could not agree more!
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Post by lesserknownpea on Mar 25, 2020 8:08:26 GMT
Thankful every day for Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and the director of the Ohio Department of Health, Dr. Amy Acton. DeWine gets it. His quote for today was as follows: ““Every single day I think about those of you who are unemployed. I think about the small businesses. I know that each day that goes by that you don’t have income is very, very tough. And I fully understand that,” DeWine said. "The truth is that protecting people and protecting the economy are not mutually exclusive. In fact, one depends on the other. We save our economy by first saving lives. And we have to do it in that order.”Could not agree more! *love*
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 25, 2020 13:16:17 GMT
I deleted my post as I regretted it - I have a ton of family who are really hurting. It's not easier that I don't have the same economic stress. It bothers me a lot that people seem to be oblivious that there are a lot of people in a whole lot of pain. I get the fact that people want to criticize Trump, I'm not defending him - I'm saying in your rush to say he's an idiot, realize that you can frame it in ways that isn't totally missing the pain people are feeling - and if it's easier, at least 90% of my family are Californians who've never dreamed of voting for a Republican. I’m really sorry things are awful for your family. Sincerely. I get the anxiety and frustration of not being able to do anything about it, that it makes you feel. I’m barely sleeping these days, so I understand. I’m trying to direct my anger where I feel it belongs, but I did not mean to be harsh to you in my response at all. I apologize if I came off that way. I certainly didn’t mean to take out my aggravations with this administration on others. For me, it doesn’t have to be either or. You can have compassion for people who are without jobs now and worried about how to pay their bills, or have the stress of employees depending on them with no business coming in, and do what you can to do your bit to help at a local level - and still find this particular posed strategy of the President reprehensible and short sighted. I agree completely. My 70+ year old father is diabetic - I know the stress of worrying about someone in a high risk category. And I'll also reiterate, that I never suggested that this "policy" was anything other than asinine. I was specifically suggesting (albeit inelegantly) that some posters were being very cavalier about discussing economic issues and it rubbed me the wrong day - which I'm sure was exacerbated after some tough phone calls yesterday. Thanks for the offer lucyg - don't worry about it.
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Post by wezee on Mar 25, 2020 14:21:06 GMT
He said He hoped it would be under control.
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Post by gar on Mar 25, 2020 14:25:25 GMT
He said He hoped it would be under control. About zero chance of that unfortunately. Even saying that seems ridiculous in the face of the growing numbers.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 25, 2020 16:21:42 GMT
I thought he put Pence in charge to take the heat for any problems in managing the pandemic, but because he can't go to MAL, any of his golf courses or hold rallies with states limiting these activities, he is stuck in the WH. He Is upset that Pence and team are getting better press then has, so he took over. He is also using the briefings as mini daily pep rallies!! Rah RAh.......
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 25, 2020 16:22:31 GMT
Won't be over if people keep going to his properties with Covid-19! Over the last couple of weeks, the places Trump owns seem to have become a hotbed for people from all over the world who subsequently test positive for COVID-19. According to the Los Angeles Times, two weeks ago a 70th birthday party in a “disco style” was thrown at the Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles in Rancho Palos Verdes, California. The event took place in an upstairs ballroom at the golf club and celebrated the birthday of the former mayor of Rancho Palos Verdes, Susan Brooks. After the celebration, she and three other guests tested positive for COVID-19. In total, five people from Brooks’ birthday bash have tested positive for COVID-19, while 11 others say they have been feeling ill but have not yet been tested. The party took place on March 8. Brooks—a fixture of the Southern California political scene—and her daughter say they asked Los Angeles County supervisor (and friend of the family) Janice Hahn about whether or not they should still have the party. She reportedly felt that in the period of time before shelter in place orders were given, as long as no guests who were feeling ill came to the party, everything would be fine. www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/24/1930724/--At-least-5-people-have-tested-positive-for-COVID-19-after-attending-disco-party-on-Trump-property?detail=emaildkre
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 25, 2020 16:26:43 GMT
They just evacuated the assisted living/nursing home literally around the corner from me. over 20+ positive. It really is a shame because it has always had the BEST reputation. It is small facility.
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Post by wellway on Mar 25, 2020 16:34:48 GMT
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