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Post by artgirl1 on Mar 30, 2020 0:22:39 GMT
Is there any choice they can make that will not earn them criticism from someone? The best summary of their situation. Unless one of them is on this board asking for advise, who are we to judge.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 30, 2020 0:30:57 GMT
Fly private, "what a waste of taxpayer money" even if they pay for it themselves To be fair, I think the actual criticism was of them going on about environmental issues, about saving the planet etc AND then flying by private jet...and all the fossil fuels that uses. Which I think is an entirely fair and relevant point. Don't tell everyone else what to do and then very publicly do the exact opposite yourselves.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 30, 2020 0:32:32 GMT
Unless one of them is on this board asking for advise, who are we to judge. here we go - yes lets shut down the discussion of all topics unless the people involved are members here...what a fucking stupid comment.
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Post by freebird on Mar 30, 2020 0:39:27 GMT
I think it's a case of having their cake and eating it too. They want to live in Canada or the US. Fine by me. They don't want to be Royal? Ok. But you have to pick one or the other. You either live like Royalty and remain Royal, or you live like a commoner and foot your own bills. Beyonce and Jayz don't have security paid for by the government, why should H&M?
You wanted to be free? you're free.
I also think it's SO STUPID they claim they wanted to keep their child safe and then leave probably the most protection he'll ever have and move into the public eye? You think you're just going to pop into the piggly wiggly and no one's going to bother you now?
that's not how this works.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 30, 2020 0:41:31 GMT
You think you're just going to pop into the piggly wiggly and no one's going to bother you now?
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Post by lucyg on Mar 30, 2020 0:46:19 GMT
I think it's a case of having their cake and eating it too. They want to live in Canada or the US. Fine by me. They don't want to be Royal? Ok. But you have to pick one or the other. You either live like Royalty and remain Royal, or you live like a commoner and foot your own bills. Beyonce and Jayz don't have security paid for by the government, why should H&M? You wanted to be free? you're free. I also think it's SO STUPID they claim they wanted to keep their child safe and then leave probably the most protection he'll ever have and move into the public eye? You think you're just going to pop into the piggly wiggly and no one's going to bother you now? that's not how this works. Do we have some reason to believe they actually asked for U.S.-paid security? Because I thought it was just more Trump nonsense.
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Post by Jessica on Mar 30, 2020 0:59:13 GMT
Do we have some reason to believe they actually asked for U.S.-paid security? Because I thought it was just more Trump nonsense. Same.
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Post by mom on Mar 30, 2020 1:06:09 GMT
I think it's a case of having their cake and eating it too. They want to live in Canada or the US. Fine by me. They don't want to be Royal? Ok. But you have to pick one or the other. You either live like Royalty and remain Royal, or you live like a commoner and foot your own bills. Beyonce and Jayz don't have security paid for by the government, why should H&M? You wanted to be free? you're free. I also think it's SO STUPID they claim they wanted to keep their child safe and then leave probably the most protection he'll ever have and move into the public eye? You think you're just going to pop into the piggly wiggly and no one's going to bother you now? that's not how this works. Do we have some reason to believe they actually asked for U.S.-paid security? Because I thought it was just more Trump nonsense. The reason people think they are wanting the US to pay this because 1) they asked the UK & Canada to foot the bill already and 2) if Harry was still Royal the US would pay for him while he was in our country. All of this has been speculated for awhile now online, well before Trump tweeted.
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Post by used2scrap on Mar 30, 2020 1:06:21 GMT
I thought the borders between the US & Canada were closed ? Stay with your first choice; we’re closed. I don't have much of an opinion on this topic other that this ... she is a US Citizen. She is allowed to come home and bring her family. And start paying taxes.
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Post by pjaye on Mar 30, 2020 1:06:30 GMT
Do we have some reason to believe they actually asked for U.S.-paid security? Because I thought it was just more Trump nonsense I'm pretty sure they didn't and the follow up tweet says they have said they didn't ask. Just Trump with nothing to do except tweet about them and his "ratings" and comparing them to a The Bachelor final...beyond belief really.
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Post by muggins on Mar 30, 2020 1:15:02 GMT
Canada paid for Harry and Meghan’s security because it’s part of the commonwealth and they retain their royal’ status until Tuesday. I very much doubt they have asked the US to pay for their security whilst in the US. It’s just 45 being an asshole as usual.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Mar 30, 2020 1:24:10 GMT
I think it's a case of having their cake and eating it too. They want to live in Canada or the US. Fine by me. They don't want to be Royal? Ok. But you have to pick one or the other. You either live like Royalty and remain Royal, or you live like a commoner and foot your own bills. Beyonce and Jayz don't have security paid for by the government, why should H&M? You wanted to be free? you're free. I also think it's SO STUPID they claim they wanted to keep their child safe and then leave probably the most protection he'll ever have and move into the public eye? You think you're just going to pop into the piggly wiggly and no one's going to bother you now? that's not how this works. Do we have some reason to believe they actually asked for U.S.-paid security? Because I thought it was just more Trump nonsense. I was just about to ask the same thing. Additionally, if they hang out in the US long enough no one is going to really care much about them. I think their choice to leave “royal” life was smart. The UK paparazzi are insane.
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Post by M~ on Mar 30, 2020 2:07:17 GMT
So if Harry’s reason to leave the UK was to protect his son from the media and its attacks-ostensibly- it would make sense UNTIL they moved to LA- you know- the celebrity capital of the world. Then they’re “saddened and shocked” they couldn’t keep their royal titles. Eye roll.
I used to like Meghan Markle but the more I see what they do I dislike her more. She had a fairy tale wedding- but then she dips out on responsibility. It seems to me she wanted all of the perks of being a royal (I mean who wouldn’t ) but none of the work associated with it. I’ve read reports that she found practically every rule stupid or ridiculous-from the dress code to curtsying to traditional things that royals have to do. I mean, didn’t you understand who you were marrying? It’s not like she’s seeking a really low key lifestyle.
I read they left for LA the day before the borders closed.
as for DT- his brain is the size of a pea so I expect nothing less
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 30, 2020 4:01:06 GMT
Did she renounce her US citizenship? Thought she had to?
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Post by Laurie on Mar 30, 2020 4:19:55 GMT
I think it's a case of having their cake and eating it too. They want to live in Canada or the US. Fine by me. They don't want to be Royal? Ok. But you have to pick one or the other. You either live like Royalty and remain Royal, or you live like a commoner and foot your own bills. Beyonce and Jayz don't have security paid for by the government, why should H&M? You wanted to be free? you're free. I also think it's SO STUPID they claim they wanted to keep their child safe and then leave probably the most protection he'll ever have and move into the public eye? You think you're just going to pop into the piggly wiggly and no one's going to bother you now? that's not how this works. Can I just say thank you for reminding me about piggly wiggly stores. 😂 We haven’t had one since I was in middle school.
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Post by Skellinton on Mar 30, 2020 4:49:17 GMT
Do we have some reason to believe they actually asked for U.S.-paid security? Because I thought it was just more Trump nonsense. I was just about to ask the same thing. Additionally, if they hang out in the US long enough no one is going to really care much about them. I think their choice to leave “royal” life was smart. The UK paparazzi are insane. I doubt that no one is going to care about them here. Paparazzi are insane in the LA area too. I don’t think they will have a moments peace.
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Post by Enna on Mar 30, 2020 5:56:22 GMT
Moving to LA isn't what you do when you want to escape paparazzi and media attention. I think they want to make money and leaving royal life allows them to that. I just hope I don't hear them complaining about media anymore.
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Post by joelise on Mar 30, 2020 8:38:40 GMT
I haven’t seen/heard any negativity towards them regarding not returning to the UK. In fact since we’ve been “locked” in our homes for what feels like an eternity, I think we’d all be up in arms if they were allowed to travel back here!
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Post by gar on Mar 30, 2020 8:45:41 GMT
Moving to LA isn't what you do when you want to escape paparazzi and media attention. I think they want to make money and leaving royal life allows them to that. I just hope I don't hear them complaining about media anymore. I imagine that's why a lot of people seem to think that this is mostly Meghan's choice more than Harry's. I can imagine that she thought life as a Royal would just be more of 'being a celebrity' and she was used to that and presumably enjoyed it. It didn't work out that way - her role would have been to support Harry, she wasn't the star of the show - so maybe she misses the spotlight (on her terms) hence where they're now living. It appears a complete contradiction to what they apparently craved so lets see how it works out
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Post by wellway on Mar 30, 2020 9:07:16 GMT
If it wasn't for the tweet and this thread I won't have known they had moved.
Moving to a media savvy, celebrity filled, publicity driven place seems at odds with their stated desires.
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Post by worldwanderer75 on Mar 30, 2020 9:09:17 GMT
I like Harry and Megan and despise Trump. But I think *maybe* they were making a quick decision based on the state of the world right now. Maybe they quickly moved before the borders closed because they think the US is better equipped to deal with COVID than Canada. Maybe she wanted to be closer to her mom. Honestly, I'm trying REALLY HARD not to be too harsh a judge during these unusual times. Most of us are making decisions with very little data and just doing the best we can. Also, there are plenty of celebs that live in LA who are able to protect their families/kids from the spotlight. Who knows their motivation or reasons for their timing. As others have said, they can't really win no matter what they do. Also I live thousands of miles from my family in another country and my kids do just fine and have great relationships with their cousins. We prioritize time with family when we're in the same geographic location and spent lots of time doing facetime, texting and Marco Polo when we're not. Archie will be fine.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 30, 2020 9:15:59 GMT
What happened to “stay the fuck home”? I guess if you’re M&H you relocate during a global pandemic because it’s convenient. For two people who claim to want to “build their brand” they are stupid to optics. It’s a never ending gaffe fest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 10:33:03 GMT
I can’t comment on whether they should be here or not. If as we’re told Charles only has mild symptoms I doubt he would expect them to come back here for that reason. I guess no longer being front line royals they have no obligation to support us as a nation. Harry’s family? I guess that depends on what sort of terms they left and we have no idea obviously how much contact they’ve had. I'll try to find the article and post the link. It suggested they were getting a bit of backlash in the UK...? Here it isSorry, this made me laugh "We are stunned and horrified. The country is going through a traumatic event at the moment. They have a beautiful cottage in Windsor where they could have based themselves," a source close to the royal family told The Sun.I don't think anyone could interpret that as having a "bit of backlash in the UK." It hasn't made that much of a "headline" news here. We have far more important things to be getting on with at the moment. As for the title of your post - I think Trump also has far more important things on his mind than to comment on the Sussex's decision to move to America especially when there was no indication that they had requested anyone (as far as I know) to pay or provide them with security detail. As the President of a country,( any country for that matter), he should know that a country would only be obliged to provide security for someone representing the head of state from another country. In the case of the Sussex's, they are not in the US representing the Queen as the head of state of the UK. They're not in that position any more. Personally, I don't think they should have moved anywhere at this present time but that is more from the safety of anyone's health not just theirs.
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 30, 2020 18:10:41 GMT
I don't have much of an opinion on this topic other that this ... she is a US Citizen. She is allowed to come home and bring her family. And start paying taxes. To be fair, she was probably still paying taxes. Just because you don't live in the US, you still have to pay taxes to the US on your income. Unless your renounce. Which she didn't.
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Post by tracylynn on Mar 30, 2020 18:12:24 GMT
Did she renounce her US citizenship? Thought she had to? No. She didn't have to, nor did she. She was no a British citizen either.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 30, 2020 18:34:02 GMT
On a day when 363 Americans lost their lives to a global pandemic - among many issues the country is facing related to said pandemic, and that’s what he’s tweeting about?
Seems about right. 😒🙄
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 18:40:37 GMT
My guess is that they are leaking info to stay relevant.
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Post by Peal on Mar 30, 2020 18:47:46 GMT
Moving to LA isn't what you do when you want to escape paparazzi and media attention. I think they want to make money and leaving royal life allows them to that. I just hope I don't hear them complaining about media anymore. It is what you do if you want to resurrect an acting career. Which is what I think this is about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 18:48:59 GMT
Moving to LA isn't what you do when you want to escape paparazzi and media attention. I think they want to make money and leaving royal life allows them to that. I just hope I don't hear them complaining about media anymore. It is what you do if you want to resurrect an acting career. Which is what I think this is about. Exactly. I am so over celebrities and influencers right now.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 30, 2020 20:12:11 GMT
To be fair, she was probably still paying taxes. Just because you don't live in the US, you still have to pay taxes to the US on your income. Unless your renounce. Which she didn't. my DD doesn’t live here but filed taxes
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