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Post by dewryce on Mar 31, 2020 6:07:31 GMT
I think I do both. I am very visual, with pictures in my mind but I also incorporate words—sometimes as part of the visual. This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. Is this similar to a photographic memory?
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Post by anniefb on Mar 31, 2020 7:51:54 GMT
Full sentences for me.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Mar 31, 2020 8:50:49 GMT
I’ve always thought in full sentences, even hearing the words spoken in my head. However, I’ve found recently when I’m speaking out loud to others, and I can’t pull the word I want out of the top of my head quickly, it helps to visualize the item or activity. For instance, if I’m trying to say we’re going to the ______ , and I want to say pet store, but the words are not coming quick enough, if I envision said store, I’m able to say it.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Mar 31, 2020 9:01:39 GMT
I chose sentences, but sometimes it's just phrases or words.
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Post by BSnyder on Mar 31, 2020 9:05:16 GMT
I think I do both. I am very visual, with pictures in my mind but I also incorporate words—sometimes as part of the visual. This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. Yes, if I physically write something down, I can see it! This skill got me through higher education with very little studying. But, I think I still associate words with those thoughts. I am usually a big note taker; it helps me remember. But the volume of notes I take makes it difficult to stay organized. Using the iPad with an Apple Pencil in a notebook app, has bridged the gap for me. I can visualize my notes in my head, but actually find them in the physical world, too. Typing does not allow me to access visual memory like writing does.
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Post by theshyone on Mar 31, 2020 9:07:37 GMT
I lost my ability to visualize when I endured a brain injury due to lack of oxygen.. at the same time I had to relearn English too, so certainly not in complete sentences. I grapple with grasping words when both speaking and while typing. Especially words that are the same but different like for four fore their they’re English is a hard language. I’ll go to say fork but pink comes out of my mouth, I also have impaired filters on things that are appropriate or inappropriate so things often fall out of my mouth that shouldn’t. Thinking is hard, it’s difficult, but I can’t describe how I do it. Interesting enough in my life pre brain injury I visualized everything in numbers, everything equated to numbers, everything I said, everything I saw, everything I wrote. I have only ever met one other person that thought this way and she was literally a rocket scientist You have been through so much - its hard for me to imagine. How long did it take for you to relearn everything after your injury? Although I think in sentences, I visualize in shorthand that I learned in high school. Cindy It’s been 8.5 years and I’m still learning things. I had cardiac arrests and oxygenated blood didn’t reach my brain for an undetermined amount of time. I went from a wheel chair, to a walker, to a cane, to terrible balance in about July- May so ten months maybe. Neuro therapy, physical therapy, occupational therapy, rehab, cardiac rehab, I had for years. Some things I may never regain, I still can’t stand and close my eyes without falling. I still cannot tie a bow. I lost my mathematical abilities. I can’t read without a guide to track my eyes. But some tasks I learned years ago are still known, I can do them, but I couldn’t tell you how I know them. I miss my memories I lost. It’s weird to have lost huge chunks of my life and my kids lives. But I miss my grasp of math and English the most. I took both for granted.
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Post by Really Red on Mar 31, 2020 11:02:03 GMT
I lost my ability to visualize when I endured a brain injury due to lack of oxygen.. at the same time I had to relearn English too, so certainly not in complete sentences. I grapple with grasping words when both speaking and while typing. Especially words that are the same but different like for four fore their they’re English is a hard language. I’ll go to say fork but pink comes out of my mouth, I also have impaired filters on things that are appropriate or inappropriate so things often fall out of my mouth that shouldn’t. Thinking is hard, it’s difficult, but I can’t describe how I do it. Interesting enough in my life pre brain injury I visualized everything in numbers, everything equated to numbers, everything I said, everything I saw, everything I wrote. I have only ever met one other person that thought this way and she was literally a rocket scientist OMG. I think everything in numbers. Okay - I might think "I want a glass of water" but pretty much every single thing I do, I do in numbers - where I walk, where I go, how much work I do, when I clean, etc. FWIW, I am not a rocket scientist, but I am also amazed that people do NOT think in numbers. I clicked Other for that reason.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Mar 31, 2020 11:45:12 GMT
My brain thinks in all sorts of ways. I think that it's hard wired to connect in a bunch of different ways because I suffered a lot of abuse as a child. Parts of my memory are definitely affected. So I think that my brain learned to connect images, smells, music, and other ways of cementing a memory.
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Post by artbabe on Mar 31, 2020 11:56:28 GMT
I think in words, usually.
Which is weird because I would describe myself as a visual person. If you want to explain anything to me, give me directions, etc., I do much better if you draw it out for me, or show me a picture. I have a hard time if you just tell me directions. I think that is because I have ADHD and I can't keep my mind on what you are saying. When I was in college I was really good at visualizing my notes in my head, though. I am also really good at identifying paintings. I have an art history degree and I was amazing at recognizing and remembering things about paintings.
I teach about 500 kids a year and there are so many names and so many different spellings of the names. I remember those by seeing the word spelled out in my head. I'm usually really good at remembering how each Kayden, Kaden, Caden, Cayden, and Caydn belong to which kid. And yes, I have all of those spellings in my classes right now. Weirdly enough, though, I have awful facial recognition. After a child has been out of my class for a few years I have a really hard time recognizing them and putting a face to a name. It is really embarrassing sometimes, as I'm desperately searching in my head to figure out who is the person talking to me at the grocery store.
I do have some mental difficulties sometimes. I remember very little from my childhood. Sometimes I'll tell the kids that they can go to the bathroom and forget that I told them that. I'll say or write the wrong word, or have a hard time finding the right verb tense for a sentence. That is embarrassing, too, especially when the kids point it out to me. I'm pretty sure that is because of all of the medications I take for my bipolar disorder. The problem recognizing faces might be from the meds, too.
I'm rambling all over the place here, aren't I?
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Post by gsquaredmom on Mar 31, 2020 15:35:30 GMT
I think I do both. I am very visual, with pictures in my mind but I also incorporate words—sometimes as part of the visual. This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. Yes! Me too!
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Post by gsquaredmom on Mar 31, 2020 15:36:52 GMT
This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. That ability would come in handy. Jealous. Cindy Yes, it does. It was a long time before I realized not everyone saw pictures and maps in their head!
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Post by sabrinae on Mar 31, 2020 15:39:06 GMT
I think I do both. I am very visual, with pictures in my mind but I also incorporate words—sometimes as part of the visual. This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. I did this as well. I could literally read my notes in my mind quite often. It’s nice to see someone else who does it. Everyone I told that too thought I was crazy.
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Post by elaine on Mar 31, 2020 15:40:18 GMT
This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. Is this similar to a photographic memory? It is somewhat similar to eidetic (photographic) memory, except in my case, it isn’t 100%. My older son’s memory is closer to true eidetic than mine - I would have done even better in school if I had his memory. 😀
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Post by elaine on Mar 31, 2020 15:45:29 GMT
This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. That ability would come in handy. Jealous. Cindy It certainly did come in handy. I did do well in college and grad school because of it, and actually enjoyed school.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 31, 2020 15:48:43 GMT
The other day I read about the different ways that people think. I think in full sentences (think "I want a glass of water"). Apparently some people think visually (think this by visualizing a glass of water). I'm wondering how many people think in sentences, visually, or another way. I'd love to know how you think, especially if it is another way. Cindy I saw an article somewhere not long ago (probably here) about this very thing, and talked with my DH about it. I am very much a WORDS person- I think in words, full sentences, and I sort of hear a running commentary in my head all day long. When I told my DH about the story, he was absolutely dumbfounded... he just could NOT get it through his head that some people are NOT visual, like he is ... he was like 'are you sure? you think in words? really??' lol!! I think in words, usually.
Which is weird because I would describe myself as a visual person. If you want to explain anything to me, give me directions, etc., I do much better if you draw it out for me, or show me a picture. I have a hard time if you just tell me directions. I think that is because I have ADHD and I can't keep my mind on what you are saying. When I was in college I was really good at visualizing my notes in my head, though. I am also really good at identifying paintings. I have an art history degree and I was amazing at recognizing and remembering things about paintings. ^^^ this is me, too! I was originally going to write 'I think in words but I'm a visual person' but then I didn't, because I couldn't explain it. But what I bolded is exactly how my mind works. I have VERY vivid, detailed dreams, and they're in color, too... And as far as memories: most of my DH's memories are triggered mainly by music and songs, but my strongest memory triggers are scents and smells. Our brains are SO very fascinating, aren't they?!?
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Post by elaine on Mar 31, 2020 16:01:11 GMT
I think in words, usually. Which is weird because I would describe myself as a visual person. If you want to explain anything to me, give me directions, etc., I do much better if you draw it out for me, or show me a picture. I have a hard time if you just tell me directions. I think that is because I have ADHD and I can't keep my mind on what you are saying. When I was in college I was really good at visualizing my notes in my head, though. I am also really good at identifying paintings. I have an art history degree and I was amazing at recognizing and remembering things about paintings. I teach about 500 kids a year and there are so many names and so many different spellings of the names. I remember those by seeing the word spelled out in my head. I'm usually really good at remembering how each Kayden, Kaden, Caden, Cayden, and Caydn belong to which kid. And yes, I have all of those spellings in my classes right now. Weirdly enough, though, I have awful facial recognition. After a child has been out of my class for a few years I have a really hard time recognizing them and putting a face to a name. It is really embarrassing sometimes, as I'm desperately searching in my head to figure out who is the person talking to me at the grocery store. I do have some mental difficulties sometimes. I remember very little from my childhood. Sometimes I'll tell the kids that they can go to the bathroom and forget that I told them that. I'll say or write the wrong word, or have a hard time finding the right verb tense for a sentence. That is embarrassing, too, especially when the kids point it out to me. I'm pretty sure that is because of all of the medications I take for my bipolar disorder. The problem recognizing faces might be from the meds, too. I'm rambling all over the place here, aren't I? I also need a map, rather than verbal directions. When reading research, I quickly turn to the graphs - it is much easier for me to get a grasp on the results by looking at a visual representation of the data. All my research papers have TONS of graphs.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Mar 31, 2020 16:23:18 GMT
I also see words so that I can read them in my mind's eye. I can picture books that I've read, and if I'm looking for a particular passage, I know exactly where on the page I read it. If you asked me what time the chip shop's opening hours are, I see the sign on the door and can read the times. I suppose that makes me a visual person rather than auditory.
But the thread from earlier this year had me stumped, because I don't have a running commentary going through my head, ever. It took a while to realise that what I have going through my head is music, always, awake or asleep. So I am auditory after all, but music not words.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Mar 31, 2020 16:35:59 GMT
This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. I did this as well. I could literally read my notes in my mind quite often. It’s nice to see someone else who does it. Everyone I told that too thought I was crazy. Yes! They looked at me skeptically because they just could not relate.
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 19:43:54 GMT
I’ve always thought in full sentences, even hearing the words spoken in my head. However, I’ve found recently when I’m speaking out loud to others, and I can’t pull the word I want out of the top of my head quickly, it helps to visualize the item or activity. For instance, if I’m trying to say we’re going to the ______ , and I want to say pet store, but the words are not coming quick enough, if I envision said store, I’m able to say it. I'm the same - except when I can't think of a word I usually can visualize the first letter of that word. Example: "That was ... on purpose -but I can't think of the word I want to say, it starts with an i." It was the word intentional. Does that make sense? Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 19:45:57 GMT
This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. Yes, if I physically write something down, I can see it! This skill got me through higher education with very little studying. But, I think I still associate words with those thoughts. I am usually a big note taker; it helps me remember. But the volume of notes I take makes it difficult to stay organized. Using the iPad with an Apple Pencil in a notebook app, has bridged the gap for me. I can visualize my notes in my head, but actually find them in the physical world, too. Typing does not allow me to access visual memory like writing does. I do that too. I take lots of notes - just writing something down solidifies it in my memory. Finding the notes later is hard. Cindy
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Post by adoette on Mar 31, 2020 19:46:19 GMT
I think in full conversations. Sometimes with other people in my head. I get really mad when the real life versions of people do not follow my mental script.
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:01:37 GMT
You have been through so much - its hard for me to imagine. How long did it take for you to relearn everything after your injury? Although I think in sentences, I visualize in shorthand that I learned in high school. Cindy It’s been 8.5 years and I’m still learning things. I had cardiac arrests and oxygenated blood didn’t reach my brain for an undetermined amount of time. I went from a wheel chair, to a walker, to a cane, to terrible balance in about July- May so ten months maybe. Neuro therapy, physical therapy, occupational therapy, rehab, cardiac rehab, I had for years. Some things I may never regain, I still can’t stand and close my eyes without falling. I still cannot tie a bow. I lost my mathematical abilities. I can’t read without a guide to track my eyes. But some tasks I learned years ago are still known, I can do them, but I couldn’t tell you how I know them. I miss my memories I lost. It’s weird to have lost huge chunks of my life and my kids lives. But I miss my grasp of math and English the most. I took both for granted. The brain is amazing. I'm sure it was a grueling 10 months of physical therapy for you, and 8.5 years of relearning everything - but you've made a remarkable recovery judging by the paragraph written above. It breaks my heart that you had to go through that and that you lost precious memories. Were you a scrapbooker before your health crisis? You are amazing and an inspiration for your kids and all of us. Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:04:59 GMT
I lost my ability to visualize when I endured a brain injury due to lack of oxygen.. at the same time I had to relearn English too, so certainly not in complete sentences. I grapple with grasping words when both speaking and while typing. Especially words that are the same but different like for four fore their they’re English is a hard language. I’ll go to say fork but pink comes out of my mouth, I also have impaired filters on things that are appropriate or inappropriate so things often fall out of my mouth that shouldn’t. Thinking is hard, it’s difficult, but I can’t describe how I do it. Interesting enough in my life pre brain injury I visualized everything in numbers, everything equated to numbers, everything I said, everything I saw, everything I wrote. I have only ever met one other person that thought this way and she was literally a rocket scientist OMG. I think everything in numbers. Okay - I might think "I want a glass of water" but pretty much every single thing I do, I do in numbers - where I walk, where I go, how much work I do, when I clean, etc. FWIW, I am not a rocket scientist, but I am also amazed that people do NOT think in numbers. I clicked Other for that reason. Wow - I would love to hear more about how thinking in numbers works. I do a lot of counting. I count how many slats are in the blinds, or how many steps I've taken - because it is hard for my mind to be quiet. Is that what you mean? Or is getting water a 99 in your mind? Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:20:49 GMT
I think in words, usually. Which is weird because I would describe myself as a visual person. If you want to explain anything to me, give me directions, etc., I do much better if you draw it out for me, or show me a picture. I have a hard time if you just tell me directions. I think that is because I have ADHD and I can't keep my mind on what you are saying. When I was in college I was really good at visualizing my notes in my head, though. I am also really good at identifying paintings. I have an art history degree and I was amazing at recognizing and remembering things about paintings. I teach about 500 kids a year and there are so many names and so many different spellings of the names. I remember those by seeing the word spelled out in my head. I'm usually really good at remembering how each Kayden, Kaden, Caden, Cayden, and Caydn belong to which kid. And yes, I have all of those spellings in my classes right now. Weirdly enough, though, I have awful facial recognition. After a child has been out of my class for a few years I have a really hard time recognizing them and putting a face to a name. It is really embarrassing sometimes, as I'm desperately searching in my head to figure out who is the person talking to me at the grocery store. I do have some mental difficulties sometimes. I remember very little from my childhood. Sometimes I'll tell the kids that they can go to the bathroom and forget that I told them that. I'll say or write the wrong word, or have a hard time finding the right verb tense for a sentence. That is embarrassing, too, especially when the kids point it out to me. I'm pretty sure that is because of all of the medications I take for my bipolar disorder. The problem recognizing faces might be from the meds, too. I'm rambling all over the place here, aren't I? 1. No, you aren't rambling. I am just so darn happy to be discussing something besides COVID-19 - and I love learning about other people and how their mind works. 2. I believe thinking in sentences is a whole different ball game from being a visual learner. I'm a visual learner too. And if I ask someone for directions it needs to be written down because the whole time they are speaking - my brain is saying "I'm not going to be able to remember this" - and I don't. Thats one bad thing about thinking in sentences - the brain never shuts up. 3. My memory is stellar when its something I care about. Thats probably why you are so good at recognizing paintings. 4. It is so embarrassing running into a student at the grocery store and not remembering their names. I have to picture them in their seat in class and then I can remember them. After a few years they all blur together. 5. You forgot you sent someone to the restroom because you were thinking about the 20 things you had to do at that moment - Billy needs more help - Susie needs to work with a partner - Johnny threw up - the phone is ringing - where did I put those tests? - the bathroom thing was a blip on your radar. Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:25:30 GMT
This. In college and grad school, when studying for and taking tests, I visualized and could see my notes in my mind and find my answers that way. I could also see the chalk board and/or any handouts in my head. Yes! Me too! Ya'll are lucky. Thats how it should work. Nowadays we rely on anchor charts with notes on them for our students to see all the time. The goal is that they will look at it long enough that they will be able to visualize them during test taking - when the charts are removed. I've reprimanded kids during testing for turning around in their seat and staring off into space - thinking they were talking to someone or cheating - when they were actually just staring at the wall where the anchor chart used to hang so they could remember what it said. Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:31:08 GMT
The other day I read about the different ways that people think. I think in full sentences (think "I want a glass of water"). Apparently some people think visually (think this by visualizing a glass of water). I'm wondering how many people think in sentences, visually, or another way. I'd love to know how you think, especially if it is another way. Cindy I saw an article somewhere not long ago (probably here) about this very thing, and talked with my DH about it. I am very much a WORDS person- I think in words, full sentences, and I sort of hear a running commentary in my head all day long. When I told my DH about the story, he was absolutely dumbfounded... he just could NOT get it through his head that some people are NOT visual, like he is ... he was like 'are you sure? you think in words? really??' lol!! I think in words, usually.
Which is weird because I would describe myself as a visual person. If you want to explain anything to me, give me directions, etc., I do much better if you draw it out for me, or show me a picture. I have a hard time if you just tell me directions. I think that is because I have ADHD and I can't keep my mind on what you are saying. When I was in college I was really good at visualizing my notes in my head, though. I am also really good at identifying paintings. I have an art history degree and I was amazing at recognizing and remembering things about paintings. ^^^ this is me, too! I was originally going to write 'I think in words but I'm a visual person' but then I didn't, because I couldn't explain it. But what I bolded is exactly how my mind works. I have VERY vivid, detailed dreams, and they're in color, too... And as far as memories: most of my DH's memories are triggered mainly by music and songs, but my strongest memory triggers are scents and smells. Our brains are SO very fascinating, aren't they?!? It is very fascinating. Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:45:23 GMT
I also see words so that I can read them in my mind's eye. I can picture books that I've read, and if I'm looking for a particular passage, I know exactly where on the page I read it. If you asked me what time the chip shop's opening hours are, I see the sign on the door and can read the times. I suppose that makes me a visual person rather than auditory. But the thread from earlier this year had me stumped, because I don't have a running commentary going through my head, ever. It took a while to realise that what I have going through my head is music, always, awake or asleep. So I am auditory after all, but music not words. Wow - you just blew my mind. If I heard music in my head all the time - I would go nuts. Of course, I'm not an expert by any means, but I think the type of learner you are (visual, auditory, reading/writing, and kinesthetic) is unrelated to how a person experiences thoughts (visualization, in sentences, in numbers). If your thoughts are music based only, how does that work? All day you are hearing your favorite song in your head - like an ear worm? Or when you have a thought like, "I need to fix dinner" is it like a song in your head? Do you write music or play a musical instrument? Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:48:31 GMT
I think in full conversations. Sometimes with other people in my head. I get really mad when the real life versions of people do not follow my mental script. I can totally relate to that. Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 20:55:32 GMT
Are you saying that they visualize the water but the words aren’t also going through their head? How interesting, I can’t even imagine that. I’m trying but apparently my (loud, opinionated, snarky) inner voice likes to talk a lot and refuses to shut up. I’d love for someone that thinks visually to describe it. My grandson is a visual thinker and we have had this conversation. It is difficult for him to explain as he doesn't know any better or any other way. He has very poor reading and writing skills. Look as something and he can pick it apart and tell you how it was made/assembled in no time. I've noticed that many of my gifted students tend to struggle with writing. Now that I think about it - it could be because they visualize their thoughts so putting full sentences together is difficult for them. Cindy
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Post by cindytred on Mar 31, 2020 21:01:10 GMT
totally auditory for me - my brain doesn't think in images at all - not while thinking, not while dreaming, not at all - I simply can't visualise an image in my head. Very interesting. I had a dream last night that I was in a church and there were newborn kittens everywhere inside the church. There was one kitten that looked like a spider with 8 legs. I could see it in my dream and I can still see it in my mind. Cindy
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