gsquaredmom
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 4, 2020 1:43:20 GMT
I was out walking my dog late afternoon. Our park facilities were closed and the skate park padlocked. They have signs posted saying that you should call the police if you see people violating the closure. There were two teens in the padlocked skate park, so they must have climbed the fence. They were staying toward the back so they could not easily be seen.
When I got home 15 minutes later, I called the police non-emergency line and he knew nothing about the closure and signage. I explained and he told me to call 911. So, I called 911 and talked to a really rude woman who did not want to hear about it. I explained the signs, that it’s padlocked, etc, and she eventually said she would send a car.
So, I tried to do my civic duty to flatten the curve and was met with rudeness. I emailed the park district to let them know about all of it. It was a reply to an email THEY had sent to people in the community to tell us about the closures and the need to call the police if we saw people violating the closed areas. It will be interesting to see if anyone responds.
Would you have called?
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Post by Merge on Apr 4, 2020 2:19:42 GMT
I'm sorry that happened to you. It's not about you; everyone is stressed right now. I would have called, too.
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gsquaredmom
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 4, 2020 2:28:17 GMT
I'm sorry that happened to you. It's not about you; everyone is stressed right now. I would have called, too. True. They just sounded so disinterested. I am in Trump territory so maybe they think it’s overblown. Or maybe they get eleventy billion calls a day. I’m glad you would have called. I am in Illinois close to Chicago and really want this to not become New York.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 4, 2020 3:41:59 GMT
I would have called too. My brother is the guardian for his deceased SO’s teenage grandson who keeps repeatedly sneaking out to play soccer or ride bikes with his friends, and my brother is just beside himself frustrated because this kid just.won’t.listen.
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Post by lovestocreate on Apr 4, 2020 6:41:23 GMT
I would not have called. I know of two brothers and their dad who went to the local skate park today. They were the only ones there. 911 is for emergencies, not dudes skating.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 4, 2020 6:50:08 GMT
I would not have called. I know of two brothers and their dad who went to the local skate park today. They were the only ones there. 911 is for emergencies, not dudes skating.She didn’t call 911 until someone from the listed non-emergency line told her to. OP, I would have called as well. If 2 kids get away with it today, half a dozen will be there tomorrow...
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Post by lovestocreate on Apr 4, 2020 6:55:01 GMT
I would not have called. I know of two brothers and their dad who went to the local skate park today. They were the only ones there. 911 is for emergencies, not dudes skating.She didn’t call 911 until someone from the listed non-emergency line told her to. OP, I would have called as well. If 2 kids get away with it today, half a dozen will be there tomorrow... I know, I read. I still would have not called 911. It was truly not an emergency.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 4, 2020 7:09:46 GMT
She didn’t call 911 until someone from the listed non-emergency line told her to. OP, I would have called as well. If 2 kids get away with it today, half a dozen will be there tomorrow... I know, I read. I still would have not called 911. It was truly not an emergency. Then the other police department employee shouldn’t have told her to call them, she had no way of knowing that wasn’t the expected departmental procedure.
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Post by sunshinestate on Apr 4, 2020 8:09:01 GMT
OP, you did the right thing.
We live across the street from a nice little park that is now closed for most activities. The parking lot is gated & locked. The tennis, basketball & tennis courts (and playground) are all cordoned off with caution tape and the nets have all been removed. Yesterday, 6 guys in 3 or 4 vehicles drove onto and parked their cars on the grass of the park. Then they tore down the caution tape surrounding the volleyball court, put their own net up and proceeded to play volleyball. We called the city and they told us to call the sheriff's office. We called the non-emergency number of the sheriff's office. It took awhile, but the police did come and escorted the men out of the park and then the police had to put the caution tape back up. People are also tearing the caution tape off the exercise equipment (chin-up bars, etc.) and using the equipment. Ick. I just don't get it. It's infuriating.
And, lovestocreate, rules and laws apply to everyone. Shame on that dad if the skate park was closed (maybe that's why no one else was there?) and he took his sons there anyway! Way to teach them integrity and responsibility. They're going to grow up to be just like the asshats on the volleyball court.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 4, 2020 11:56:52 GMT
I've given up. I swear. Gonna let Darwin sort it all out.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Apr 4, 2020 12:05:57 GMT
I would have called, and I would have lodged a complaint about the unhelpful woman.
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Post by Dallie on Apr 4, 2020 12:28:10 GMT
I would not have called here because they have already told us they will not come out unless there is an altercation involving a gun.
I think a lot of places that is the de facto rule, but they aren't telling you that.
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Post by jess on Apr 4, 2020 12:33:13 GMT
I've given up. I swear. Gonna let Darwin sort it all out. Sadly a lot of people doing everything right will be taken out along with the asshats doing the wrong thing.
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 4, 2020 12:41:08 GMT
The thing is, in a lot of towns police officers are not really responding to things that aren't actual crimes right now. They have to minimize contact at this time.
So, while you did what you were supposed to, they really can't respond to that. The people were being assholes, not committing a crime.
I understand your annoyance and frustration, but there's not much we can do.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 4, 2020 13:33:42 GMT
The thing is, in a lot of towns police officers are not really responding to things that aren't actual crimes right now. They have to minimize contact at this time. So, while you did what you were supposed to, they really can't respond to that. The people were being assholes, not committing a crime. I understand your annoyance and frustration, but there's not much we can do. Then they should take down the signs and not ask people to call. Crime is relatively low here. They pull people over for throwing a gun wrapper out the window. Stealing toilet paper is the most recent crime I read about. Don’t post the sign if you don’t want people to call. Don’t send out a community email if you don’t want people to call. This is the last resort before they completely close the entire parks. They have playgrounds and skate parks locked up or crime-taped. If people won’t stay out, they will close the parks completely. Most people have been good about social distancing on the paths and grass without the congregating spots of playgrounds, benches, etc. I don’t want to lose the parks for walking.
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 4, 2020 13:37:34 GMT
The thing is, in a lot of towns police officers are not really responding to things that aren't actual crimes right now. They have to minimize contact at this time. So, while you did what you were supposed to, they really can't respond to that. The people were being assholes, not committing a crime. I understand your annoyance and frustration, but there's not much we can do. Then they should take down the signs and not ask people to call. Crime is relatively low here. They pull people over for throwing a gun wrapper out the window. Stealing toilet paper is the most recent crime I read about. Don’t post the sign if you don’t want people to call. Don’t send out a community email if you don’t want people to call. This is the last resort before they completely close the entire parks. They have playgrounds and skate parks locked up or crime-taped. If people won’t stay out, they will close the parks completely. Most people have been good about social distancing on the paths and grass without the congregating spots of playgrounds, benches, etc. I don’t want to lose the parks for walking. I know. It's frustrating. The person you dealt with was clearly having a bad time. You tried!
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Post by Dalai Mama on Apr 4, 2020 13:40:05 GMT
Am I the only one that would have just talked to the teens? A quick, "Guys, the cops are cracking down on people in the parks right now and it would suck to self-isolate in a jail cell"?
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Post by amom23 on Apr 4, 2020 13:42:07 GMT
I am fairly sure I wouldn't have bothered to call.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 4, 2020 14:02:05 GMT
The MOST I would have done was responded to the email that told me to notify them. Here's why. People on this board are getting to be like Big Brother, in the name of stopping the virus. But this is a fine line, not carved in concrete like many on here justify. People can live their lives without being reported. They could be brothers who live in the same house and they are not hurting anyone. They could be homeless or live in an abusive neglectful home and just went where they wouldn't bother anyone. Not everyone is tucked in safe and sound in a nice house with TP and food. Yes, there are signs. So what? If you would report them without the quarantine then you do you.
But I am not ready to start reporting my neighbors to the police. No way, no how. This was not an emergency and I don't care who told me to call 911. You knew it wasn't a 911 emergency. So you do the right thing yourself and let others do them.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 4, 2020 14:11:51 GMT
Am I the only one that would have just talked to the teens? A quick, "Guys, the cops are cracking down on people in the parks right now and it would suck to self-isolate in a jail cell"? I teach at the local high school. One of the drawbacks to living in the town you teach in is that one has to be careful about what you say and do where. My property was vandalized several years ago, I believe by students in my behavior special ed class but could not prove it. So, while my instinct is to just go have a quick conversation, I don’t feel I can.
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Post by maryland on Apr 4, 2020 17:34:33 GMT
I know, I read. I still would have not called 911. It was truly not an emergency. Then the other police department employee shouldn’t have told her to call them, she had no way of knowing that wasn’t the expected departmental procedure. I agree! And yes, it says in her post that they were asked to call the police if they see people violating the closure, so she did what was asked. If they really don't want people to call the police, they should take down that sign. Or maybe I am misunderstanding the original post?
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Post by lovestocreate on Apr 4, 2020 17:42:33 GMT
OP, you did the right thing. We live across the street from a nice little park that is now closed for most activities. The parking lot is gated & locked. The tennis, basketball & tennis courts (and playground) are all cordoned off with caution tape and the nets have all been removed. Yesterday, 6 guys in 3 or 4 vehicles drove onto and parked their cars on the grass of the park. Then they tore down the caution tape surrounding the volleyball court, put their own net up and proceeded to play volleyball. We called the city and they told us to call the sheriff's office. We called the non-emergency number of the sheriff's office. It took awhile, but the police did come and escorted the men out of the park and then the police had to put the caution tape back up. People are also tearing the caution tape off the exercise equipment (chin-up bars, etc.) and using the equipment. Ick. I just don't get it. It's infuriating. And, lovestocreate, rules and laws apply to everyone. Shame on that dad if the skate park was closed (maybe that's why no one else was there?) and he took his sons there anyway! Way to teach them integrity and responsibility. They're going to grow up to be just like the asshats on the volleyball court. The area was not closed and has no restrictions on it. These people are the farthest thing from "asshats". The only thing off limits in our community is actual play structures such as slides, swings, etc.
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Post by sunshinestate on Apr 4, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
OP, you did the right thing. We live across the street from a nice little park that is now closed for most activities. The parking lot is gated & locked. The tennis, basketball & tennis courts (and playground) are all cordoned off with caution tape and the nets have all been removed. Yesterday, 6 guys in 3 or 4 vehicles drove onto and parked their cars on the grass of the park. Then they tore down the caution tape surrounding the volleyball court, put their own net up and proceeded to play volleyball. We called the city and they told us to call the sheriff's office. We called the non-emergency number of the sheriff's office. It took awhile, but the police did come and escorted the men out of the park and then the police had to put the caution tape back up. People are also tearing the caution tape off the exercise equipment (chin-up bars, etc.) and using the equipment. Ick. I just don't get it. It's infuriating. And, lovestocreate, rules and laws apply to everyone. Shame on that dad if the skate park was closed (maybe that's why no one else was there?) and he took his sons there anyway! Way to teach them integrity and responsibility. They're going to grow up to be just like the asshats on the volleyball court. The area was not closed and has no restrictions on it. These people are the farthest thing from "asshats". The only thing off limits in our community is actual play structures such as slides, swings, etc. o.k. I guess I missed your point then. We were talking about kids breaking into an area that was closed and padlocked with signage stating to call the police to report any violations.
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Post by carhoch on Apr 4, 2020 19:45:46 GMT
Maybe does kids are brothers and live together, I would never have called 911 for that .
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Post by gsquaredmom on Apr 4, 2020 21:12:22 GMT
The area was not closed and has no restrictions on it. These people are the farthest thing from "asshats". The only thing off limits in our community is actual play structures such as slides, swings, etc. o.k. I guess I missed your point then. We were talking about kids breaking into an area that was closed and padlocked with signage stating to call the police to report any violations. Yes. This skatepark has a six foot, padlocked fence with signs saying it is closed and if we see people in there to call the police. It is within the bounds of the open park. They had to climb the fence to trespass on the closed property. What if they broke into the public library? ETA. I looked on my walk today. It’s a heavy duty 8 or 10 foot fence. They were not in there today.
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Post by Dallie on Apr 4, 2020 21:23:43 GMT
Am I the only one that would have just talked to the teens? A quick, "Guys, the cops are cracking down on people in the parks right now and it would suck to self-isolate in a jail cell"? I would not have bothered because at best, they would have laughed in my face. (They know damn well they are not going to spend time in a jail cell for that. If the cops did come, they would get to!d to scram and that would be the end of it. Big whoop.) At worst... Who knows what those kids co uld do? Not willing to find out.
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Post by seaexplore on Apr 4, 2020 21:29:16 GMT
I've given up. I swear. Gonna let Darwin sort it all out. I tell myself that all the time these days...”natural selection at work”
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Post by cycworker on Apr 4, 2020 22:08:21 GMT
I would not have called, for all the reasons listed. I may have tried to talk to the kids.
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Post by susancinpa on Apr 5, 2020 1:40:52 GMT
No way would I be saying anything to anyone during this time. We just had a news report this week of someone pulling a gun & shooting at someone in their car at a convenience store. The person being shot at had told the shooter to cover his mouth because he coughed & wasn't covering his mouth. Not worth confronting anyone.
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Post by pierkiss on Apr 5, 2020 1:51:08 GMT
I've given up. I swear. Gonna let Darwin sort it all out. This is where I mostly am now too. I’m tired of policing other people, and giving advice for them to ignore it and laugh at me for being so stupid to be worried about a virus. I’m done.
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