Another “Karen” named Amy Cooper...

She's an awful person. I found that video so hard to watch. First, the way she screamed as though she was being attacked by an innocent person then the way she was choking her poor dog. She's a racist, animal abusing piece of filth or batshit crazy or both.

She needs to be charged with a crime.

What I don’t understand is -

Everyone is saying she’s only sorry because she got caught and I don’t disagree with that at all. I don’t believe she’s sorry or that her apology is sincere. She’s sorry because she got doxxed and her employer found out.

BUT, she’s a woman with a cell phone and a twitter account in 2020. She knew she was being recorded. How did she think this would end up? Why would you do that if you know you’re being recorded (not that it’s ok to do if you aren’t being recorded, but to do it when you know you are is another level of psycho)? That’s the weirdest part to me - she knew she was being recorded and STILL thought she was going to get away with it.

'That man'? For real? She doesn't know his name by now? Hell, he has the same last name that she does.  If you are truly sorry (and she isn't) apologize to Christian Cooper. Not just to 'that man'. 

She's a white woman. That power and privilege often leads us to believe we are invincible when we are not actively checking and investigating it. 

White supremacy's a helluva drug.

This could have turned out so tragically. It only needed a trigger happy cop to arrive on the scene and shoot first and ask questions later. 
She should be prosecuted a. for making a false allegation and b. for wasting police time. She's a psycho!

Reading this thread...nodding in agreement...feeling heat and pain take residence in my neck and shoulders.

The only way I made it through the video crimsoncat05 was to put my hand up and block the bottom portion of the video so I couldn't see what she was doing to her dog. That was horrific.

The racist performance she displayed is a whole other thing and is just fucking unacceptable. Like many have said, this was her gut/initial response to the situation, and she knew she was being recorded. Her character is trash. And it's 1000% on her that the world now knows that about her.

I know the rescue said they wouldn't comment further. I hope they re-home that baby. Apparently there are quite a few pics on her Insta of the dog after suffering multiple injuries.

And I hope she is fired from her job. She should have to go out and find a new one.

My gosh.

It's all so infuriating.

And she knew exactly what she was doing. "I will tell them an African American man threatened me."

Lying piece of shit. She deserves to be ruined. She didn't think twice about the implications of her actions. Now she will think about her actions forever.

"That man" has a name, you bigoted fucking twit.

I agree with you, artgirl1. She is only sorry she got caught.

I think, with time and lots of therapy and genuinely listening and learning from people of color, she could genuinely be remorseful. But I am also white, so who am I to say that an apology should be accepted here at any point. But 24 hours after it happened? Nope.

I think animal abuse charges, lying to police, and any charges be amplified to be a hate crime. She is only did this because he was of color. 

Wow. WTF is right. That woman is nuts. The whole thing was horrible but I too had a hard time watching her yanking that dog around by the collar instead of just clipping his leash on right away.

So, it’s on people of color, or to be more specific, Black people, to educate her and bring her around? I want to clarify and push back on this a little.

Nah. It’s on fellow white people to hold her accountable. And if she’s ready to learn (Narrator: she is not), there are many books and resources. So, yes, she should be listening to and learning from people of color, but not at their peril, with their free labor or time. She can buy the books and do her own internal work first. 

elaine your comment was the single most hurtful comment a pea had made to me here and I’m sure you remember the number of times my sanity was called into question or someone labeled me a bitter black woman.





It may look benign to someone else reading but nothing I’ve ever said here would warrant the police being less than polite to me. Not a single thing.

And we know what less than polite looks like for a Black woman. We have Sandra Bland, Chikesia Clemons, Dajerria Becton and now Breonna Taylor as examples.

No black citizen is deserving of the poor treatment we receive. If Amy can lie and scream about a black man harassing her without consequence you’d think I could make some snarky comments on a message board and still walk away alive. When you defend elaine you are condoning the racist thing she said to me and trust and believe if elaine Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling encounters a black woman like these Karen’s caught on tape she would behave in a way that wouldn’t at all surprise me but might surprise you.

I’ve asked Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling more than once both privately and publicly to stop engaging with me in a way that would make someone think we have no history and are BFF’s. That has never stopped her in the years since she said it. I don’t even have that expectation anymore. I will call out shit behavior no matter how loved the pea is especially when it was such a personal attack against me.


Polite treatment of black women by police:

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/05/us/texas-mckinney-pool-party-officer-lawsuit/index.html


youtu.be/a3eI5F-AUVw

www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/us/sandra-bland-video-brian-encinia.html


The June 2017 thread that started it all:

2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/62666/updated-police-speak-respectfully-drivers


Olan my post history won’t show me ever following Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling around to get a rise out of her. I usually make a choice not to engage with Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling because I think people like her live in the personal hell of their own karma and doings so why bother.

Today I thought it especially rich she come here acting like she is any better a woman than Amy Cooper. You aren’t Elaine-Wohlgemuth Shilling. Like I said above peas have said way more personal things but what you said really was a turning point as far as pea interactions go for me. I’ve never forgot it.

I never said it needed to be Black peoples free labor or time. I also never said Black People need to educate her. I said she needs to listen and learn. Which is something all of us could do more of. 

She needs to take it upon herself to do whatever work needs to be done. But I do think Black people can offer an insight that *I* as a white person could never because I have never been afraid to live because of my skin color. The bulk (and beginning) of the work starts with her - her wanting to do better, and be better.  And it starts with people calling her out on her bullshit (her bullshit actions and bullshit apology). It starts with her honestly realizing she is racist and wanting to do the internal work. 

Wow, she is a terrible person! I’m so glad he had video.