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Post by elaine on May 31, 2020 21:46:47 GMT
Obviously the board is (for all intents and purposes) unmoderated (totally up to admin and I respect that decision). While I understand that apparently it is not known who is harassing @leowife , I’d like to see the screen name of the person who posted elaine ’s personal info. I think most of us would. I’ll admit to being extra sensitive to what’s going on due to personal circumstances. If admin isn’t going to boot folks off for bad behavior, we, at the very least, need to shun them. If I were to post here the screen name of the person who tracked down and then posted my personal information on the board, I would be told by several members 1) to stop playing the victim and 2) to check my white privilege, take a step back, and reconsider tone policing another member on the board. If you really want to know who did it to me, it is all covered in the Amy Cooper thread, much as I loathe to drag that thread up as it turned into a bash-me thread. The person did it to me a year or so ago. She definitely was not banned for doing so - I have no idea if she received a warning from admin or not. Apparently, posting personal identifying information is not a ban-able offense here, so no point in wishing for it, even though it isn’t unreasonable to expect it.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2020 21:48:53 GMT
I agree with lainey. Any organization or group will die without the addition of new members. Now, could new members be vetted? Probably, but IMO that would be a waste of time. Personally I don't think shutting down to new members will help at all. The rat(s) is/are clearly already here. Well then i think unfortunately we are going to see more and more people not posting and leaving due to many reasons. Not feeling safe, not wanting to share their experiences and lives, and I don't blame them. I've been on many groups where a core number of people have kept a group going, and this group is much bigger. Again. How many more members have we actually had since this group was formed after 2Ps shut down? Let's get rid of the rats. and I don't mean people that don't agree with whatever the issue is..or are mean, or whatever. I'm talking the people that threaten, and do stuff like this.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2020 21:50:48 GMT
You guys keep saying BAN them. how? this is an open board. You can NOT BAN someone. They will just join back up with a different screen name and different email.
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Post by elaine on May 31, 2020 21:55:45 GMT
You guys keep saying BAN them. how? this is an open board. You can NOT BAN someone. They will just join back up with a different screen name and different email. She didn’t even have to come back with a different screen name. That, to me, would have been at least something and indicated more than an email in her pm inbox that was easy to ignore. FWIW, I think that the group of peas who left and/or were banned and came back under different I.d.’s are not likely to be the ones sending hate mail to @leowife. They are definitely not my favorite group of posters, so I am not defending them lightly, and I don’t think that this is their handiwork at all. They are mostly conservative/ultra-conservative peas who wouldn’t be harassing a police officer’s wife.
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Post by christine58 on May 31, 2020 21:56:40 GMT
Not necessarily...the hate Email could have been sent by anyone who searched for the Card thread...BUT if someone posted her address here or someplace else then yes..it was from someone on that list The person sending the hateful email said they had her physical address and would send people to hurt her and her family. Hence the tie to the cmas card address list. But that person could be lying also to just cause her more pain. It's all disgusting
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Post by MichyM on May 31, 2020 21:56:56 GMT
Obviously the board is (for all intents and purposes) unmoderated (totally up to admin and I respect that decision). While I understand that apparently it is not known who is harassing @leowife , I’d like to see the screen name of the person who posted elaine ’s personal info. I think most of us would. I’ll admit to being extra sensitive to what’s going on due to personal circumstances. If admin isn’t going to boot folks off for bad behavior, we, at the very least, need to shun them. If I were to post here the screen name of the person who tracked down and then posted my personal information on the board, I would be told by several members 1) to stop playing the victim and 2) to check my white privilege, take a step back, and reconsider tone policing another member on the board. If you really want to know who did it to me, it is all covered in the Amy Cooper thread, much as I loathe to drag that thread up as it turned into a bash-me thread. The person did it to me a year or so ago. She definitely was not banned for doing so - I have no idea if she received a warning from admin or not. Apparently, posting personal identifying information is not a ban-able offense here, so no point in wishing for it, even though it isn’t unreasonable to expect it. Elaine, I walked away from reading that thread for a variety of reasons. That said, I was PMed with the name of the person who posted your personal info. It was Olan. I'm so disappointed. I will never be able to think of her in anything but a negative way from here out. Normally I'd move someone to the "mute" list in an instance like this. However I don't think that would be effective. IMO she needs to be publically shunned by as many of us as are interested in trying to keep this a "safe" place to be. Blows me away that someone would go to all the effort to find out personal info about users here, and then post it. To what end? #Obsessive
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 22:04:10 GMT
Hi ladies, because y'all have been my family for close to god, 15 years...well an extended crazy family;)...I felt the want to explain. Instead of sending out a million PM'S....thank you for them, It was appreciated and loved today.
So yesterday late evening I got a message in the holiday card swap email. The sender stated a bunch of Anti LEO sentiments and ended with that they are going to post my address and are sending someone to come stomp on my neck till I'm dead. The kicker is the sender referenced something that google maps has of the front of my house. That is why I believe it is someone who was involoved in the swap nd have my address or man they hold a grudge and kept the email add but the second one doesn't make sense because of the detail reference. So, who knows... The email add is only posted for a bit for corrections to or questions for the swap. I'm 99% sure it's always removed after the holidays. Years ago, you would email everything to be added to the swap but a couple of years ago a wonderful Pea started a Google form. The way the swap works, you fill out the Google doc, we email the first draft to all, gather corrections and then send the final one out. Then you hit the road running. LET ME BE CLEAR WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. THE PERSON THAT DID THIS IS A COWARD AND IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THIS GROUP. Please do not let this deter you from joining the swap. It is a joyful event and I refuse to let a coward ruin it for me.
As I was reading the first lovely email, the second one came through threatening my kids, still not even going to post the hatefulness from that one. The email has been cross-referenced from previous card swaps to no avail. They have been forwarded to cyber crimes and they will do what they do. This is not the first time that someone feels it's ok to be hateful because of my husbands job and I'm not stupid enough to think it will be the last. I know that everyone is hot and upset over everything and y'all have the right to be, just as we are. But for now I'm stepping back, not going away, and as a sweet Pea put it letting y'all vent, speak and discuss without me. Change needs to happen, is happening and if anything comes from this senseless death let it be change! Ladies go nd start new threads, post some joy and be nice to each other as much as you can. Be blunt if need also;) Enjoy your Sunday.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on May 31, 2020 22:04:18 GMT
You guys keep saying BAN them. how? this is an open board. You can NOT BAN someone. They will just join back up with a different screen name and different email. You absolutely can ban someone from a pro boards forum.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on May 31, 2020 22:06:46 GMT
I've had Olan blocked for quite some time now and this just reaffirms how right that decision was.
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Post by kokomo on May 31, 2020 22:08:52 GMT
Wow, first I have heard of this . What a horrible cowardly move. Please know this is only one person and the rest of us wish you the best
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Post by hockeyfan06 on May 31, 2020 22:09:14 GMT
I am shocked that so many people are shocked by behavior like this. The sad and depressing truth is there's just a portion of people in the world that are not good people. It's bound to rear its ugly head from time to time. I have to say I'm shocked because I expect this on Reddit not a former scrapbooking site. But you are right spongemom, this is bound to happen. I come from a legal/police service background and I'm sorry to hear this has happened to leowife. No one deserves that. They should be ashamed.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 31, 2020 22:12:01 GMT
Just to clarify as there seems to be many who weren't aware. The person who contacted Mrs. Tyler's work was limapea/limapea2 and I can't even remember the various incarnations. I do not believe she has returned - and do believe she was banned. If someone knows of a current version, please let me know - I'd like to block them.
ETA and I will state emphatically - anyone who thinks to contact or "out" anyone in real life based on a message board should absolutely be banned.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 31, 2020 22:13:46 GMT
@leowife Only now discovering what has happened to you and wanted to express my support. Different opinions on hot topics should not lead to someone threatening you, your family and your identity/address. That's a line that is never ok to cross. You deserve to live feeling safe.
It's sad that the Christmas card swap trust circle was abused in such a vile manner, too. That's taking the Grinch to a whole other level of negativity and hate.
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Post by elaine on May 31, 2020 22:16:16 GMT
@leowife Only now discovering what has happened to you and wanted to express my support. Different opinions on hot topics should not lead to someone threatening you, your family and your identity/address. That's a line that is never ok to cross. You deserve to live feeling safe. It's sad that the Christmas card swap trust circle was abused in such a vile manner, too. That's taking the Grinch to a whole other level of negativity and hate.
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 31, 2020 22:23:26 GMT
Wow, first I have heard of this . What a horrible cowardly move. Please know this is only one person and the rest of us wish you the best Sadly too many on this board have developed mob think. They attack those that don’t think like them. Relentlessly.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2020 22:23:45 GMT
You absolutely can ban someone from a pro boards forum. How? if they can use a different email address, and this is an open group?
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Post by KikiPea on May 31, 2020 22:31:47 GMT
If I were to post here the screen name of the person who tracked down and then posted my personal information on the board, I would be told by several members 1) to stop playing the victim and 2) to check my white privilege, take a step back, and reconsider tone policing another member on the board. If you really want to know who did it to me, it is all covered in the Amy Cooper thread, much as I loathe to drag that thread up as it turned into a bash-me thread. The person did it to me a year or so ago. She definitely was not banned for doing so - I have no idea if she received a warning from admin or not. Apparently, posting personal identifying information is not a ban-able offense here, so no point in wishing for it, even though it isn’t unreasonable to expect it. Elaine, I walked away from reading that thread for a variety of reasons. That said, I was PMed with the name of the person who posted your personal info. It was Olan. I'm so disappointed. I will never be able to think of her in anything but a negative way from here out. Normally I'd move someone to the "mute" list in an instance like this. However I don't think that would be effective. IMO she needs to be publically shunned by as many of us as are interested in trying to keep this a "safe" place to be. Blows me away that someone would go to all the effort to find out personal info about users here, and then post it. To what end? #Obsessive I'm not at all surprized. I have had her on block for quite some time.
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Post by sassyangel on May 31, 2020 22:38:56 GMT
You absolutely can ban someone from a pro boards forum. How? if they can use a different email address, and this is an open group? They have lots of options. You can ban, by username, by email address or by IP address. The only way of circumventing is by changing email address. And IP address ban would require a change of IP address (which can be done, but is harder to get around)
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 31, 2020 22:45:16 GMT
It's very easy to change email address. I think I have like 3 emails for various reasons. IP address, does that just mean a different internet connection? like I can use a different one at work, or another families members home connection, or a library?
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Post by sassyangel on May 31, 2020 22:56:43 GMT
It's very easy to change email address. I think I have like 3 emails for various reasons. IP address, does that just mean a different internet connection? like I can use a different one at work, or another families members home connection, or a library? There are ways around it. So admins have to be really on top of it (I am not saying ours is not at all) ban all different IPS attached to a user name and global email, but it can be done. You just have to be a bit vigilant. I think doxing anyone should be a bannable offense. Also taking personal advantage of something where people trust you with personal info (like the Christmas card list) should be bannable too, if it’s discovered that’s what happened.
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Post by refugeepea on May 31, 2020 23:05:15 GMT
We had someone who refused to participate last year because someone (maybe two?) sent them hate mail instead of a holiday card. I’m guessing it’s the same person(s). Hold on. Someone posted Elaine's address, etc on this board? Either I missed it or forgot it completely. Holy cow. Another pea posted Lauren's personal information (not address) and was not banned either. Still posting a person's first and last name is not right. The person did it to me a year or so ago. She definitely was not banned for doing so - I have no idea if she received a warning from admin or not. Apparently, posting personal identifying information is not a ban-able offense here, so no point in wishing for it, even though it isn’t unreasonable to expect it.
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Post by peabay on May 31, 2020 23:05:52 GMT
Jesus Christ. That is so far over the line it's ridiculous. Get a grip, get off the internet, get into therapy. You need it.
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Post by zookeeper on May 31, 2020 23:06:51 GMT
To whomever the pea(s) is/are that sent leowife hate mail using the card exchange list, you should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously, ashamed. This makes me so sad. I am so sorry @leowife
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Post by Sue on May 31, 2020 23:12:18 GMT
I'm so sorry that the ugliness found in the world has crept into our pea world and made you their target, @leowife. It's incomprehensible to me that this kind of evil exists here among our family of peas. You are a valued member of this board and I hope you'll actively be back among us soon. Sending my best to you and to your LEO husband. Stay safe.
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on May 31, 2020 23:12:59 GMT
@leowife, I'm so sorry that you're having to experience bullying and hate mail.
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Post by Sharon on May 31, 2020 23:13:58 GMT
If I were to post here the screen name of the person who tracked down and then posted my personal information on the board, I would be told by several members 1) to stop playing the victim and 2) to check my white privilege, take a step back, and reconsider tone policing another member on the board. If you really want to know who did it to me, it is all covered in the Amy Cooper thread, much as I loathe to drag that thread up as it turned into a bash-me thread. The person did it to me a year or so ago. She definitely was not banned for doing so - I have no idea if she received a warning from admin or not. Apparently, posting personal identifying information is not a ban-able offense here, so no point in wishing for it, even though it isn’t unreasonable to expect it. Elaine, I walked away from reading that thread for a variety of reasons. That said, I was PMed with the name of the person who posted your personal info. It was Olan. I'm so disappointed. I will never be able to think of her in anything but a negative way from here out. Normally I'd move someone to the "mute" list in an instance like this. However I don't think that would be effective. IMO she needs to be publically shunned by as many of us as are interested in trying to keep this a "safe" place to be. Blows me away that someone would go to all the effort to find out personal info about users here, and then post it. To what end? #Obsessive I also hope that Elaine's personal information has been deleted!
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Post by mom on May 31, 2020 23:16:11 GMT
If I were to post here the screen name of the person who tracked down and then posted my personal information on the board, I would be told by several members 1) to stop playing the victim and 2) to check my white privilege, take a step back, and reconsider tone policing another member on the board. If you really want to know who did it to me, it is all covered in the Amy Cooper thread, much as I loathe to drag that thread up as it turned into a bash-me thread. The person did it to me a year or so ago. She definitely was not banned for doing so - I have no idea if she received a warning from admin or not. Apparently, posting personal identifying information is not a ban-able offense here, so no point in wishing for it, even though it isn’t unreasonable to expect it. Elaine, I walked away from reading that thread for a variety of reasons. That said, I was PMed with the name of the person who posted your personal info. It was Olan. I'm so disappointed. I will never be able to think of her in anything but a negative way from here out. Normally I'd move someone to the "mute" list in an instance like this. However I don't think that would be effective. IMO she needs to be publically shunned by as many of us as are interested in trying to keep this a "safe" place to be. Blows me away that someone would go to all the effort to find out personal info about users here, and then post it. To what end? #Obsessive I went outside for awhile, but yes. It was Olan. I do not know what consequences she had (though, I suspect none) but I do know she has several 'names on this board. But anytime someone calls her out on the bullshit she has done, they get called racist and then have to endure an attack on the board.
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Post by mom on May 31, 2020 23:18:31 GMT
You guys keep saying BAN them. how? this is an open board. You can NOT BAN someone. They will just join back up with a different screen name and different email. She didn’t even have to come back with a different screen name. That, to me, would have been at least something and indicated more than an email in her pm inbox that was easy to ignore. FWIW, I think that the group of peas who left and/or were banned and came back under different I.d.’s are not likely to be the ones sending hate mail to @leowife . They are definitely not my favorite group of posters, so I am not defending them lightly, and I don’t think that this is their handiwork at all. They are mostly conservative/ultra-conservative peas who wouldn’t be harassing a police officer’s wife. I agree. I don't think those who are known to have multiple accounts here (cough, Lauren, cough) are the culprit. But I will be honest, looking down the list that I have from the Christmas swap, I am not sure I would suspect any of them so what do I know?
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Post by Anita on May 31, 2020 23:20:47 GMT
What a lowlife POS. I hope this person is outed and blocked permanently.
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Post by julieb on May 31, 2020 23:25:24 GMT
Wow. That is low. Where is the post office stamp from? I'm a Mom Detective. It was an email/s not a physical piece of mail. I guess I'm not a very good detective.
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