quiltz
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Post by quiltz on Jun 2, 2020 17:42:49 GMT
of the protests in the United States. ctv.ca www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-s-long-silence-pm-pauses-avoids-trump-s-name-in-reaction-to-protests-1.4965372OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not speak for 20 seconds when asked to comment on U.S. President Donald Trump's handling of protesters in the United States, ultimately avoiding even saying Trump’s name in his eventual response. During a press conference on the front steps of Rideau Cottage on Tuesday, Trudeau was asked for his thoughts on Trump's call for military action against protesters across the U.S. Rather than offer an immediate answer, the question was met with silence. After a few seconds, Trudeau opened his mouth slightly, but did not speak. His silence continued for more than 20 seconds. Finally, Trudeau spoke. "We all watch in horror and consternation what’s going on in the United States," he said. "It is a time to pull people together, but it is a time to listen, it is a time to learn what injustices continue despite progress over years and decades. But it is a time for us as Canadians to recognize that we too have our challenges, that black Canadians and racialized Canadians face discrimination as a lived reality every single day." He went on to speak about the systemic discrimination racialized Canadians face within Canada, but he did not directly speak about Trump’s position on protesters or even mention the president by name. Trudeau wasn't the only one in government to be pushed for a comment on Trump's recent call for crackdowns on protesters. When Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland was pressed on the issue during a press conference Tuesday, she too refused to directly mention Trump in her response. "As a Canadian politician, as a Canadian leader, my focus is on Canada and it is on being very clear within our government and with Canadians that this is not a problem to which we are immune. It is a problem here in Canada, and it is our job today to listen to Canadians, to listen to black Canadians, and it’s time for us to act," she said. When asked whether she and Trudeau were avoiding direct criticism of Trump for fear of blowback from the United States, Freeland said her real concern lies with "Canadian complacency." "I think that it's really, really important for us to set our own house in order and for us to really be aware of the pain that anti-black racism causes here in our own country, of the reality that we do have systemic discrimination here in Canada, and I think that we as Canadians, all of us, need to take this very traumatic moment for many people in the world as an opportunity to look at what we are doing in Canada and to work hard to do better," Freeland replied. As protests spurred by the police-involved death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, demonstrations have been taking place in Canadian cities including Ottawa, Toronto and Montreal, in solidarity with those decrying anti-black racism in the United States, as well as to protest police-involved deaths in Canada. In Toronto, protesters have also been demanding answers in the death of 29-year-old Regis Korchinski-Paquet, who fell from her apartment balcony while police were present. Speaking Monday, Trudeau said he had a message for young black Canadians. "I hear you when you say that you are anxious and angry. When you say that this brings back painful experiences of racism that you've faced. I want you to know that I am listening, and that your government will always stand with you," Trudeau said.
"Together, we will keep taking meaningful action to fight racism and discrimination in every form. The status quo – where people face violence because of the colour of their skin – is unacceptable."
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 2, 2020 17:45:33 GMT
God, what I wouldn’t give to live in Canada or have a leader like they do. Don’t they want to annex Washington state? We will be good and worthy, I promise!!!
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Post by PLurker on Jun 2, 2020 17:52:35 GMT
God, what I wouldn’t give to live in Canada or have a leader like they do. Don’t they want to annex Washington state? We will be good and worthy, I promise!!! Wisconsin is also an easy access annex... (and then, like dominoes they would all fall northward)
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Post by ashley on Jun 2, 2020 17:55:46 GMT
My goodness I do love my country.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 17:59:05 GMT
What is a "racialized Canadian"?
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 2, 2020 18:00:22 GMT
🇨🇦
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 2, 2020 18:02:50 GMT
OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not speak for 20 seconds when asked to comment on U.S. President Donald Trump's handling of protesters in the United States, ultimately avoiding even saying Trump’s name in his eventual response. During a press conference on the front steps of Rideau Cottage on Tuesday, Trudeau was asked for his thoughts on Trump's call for military action against protesters across the U.S. Rather than offer an immediate answer, the question was met with silence. After a few seconds, Trudeau opened his mouth slightly, but did not speak. His silence continued for more than 20 seconds. Finally, Trudeau spoke. "We all watch in horror and consternation what’s going on in the United States," he said. a lot of us are watching in horror and consternation here, too, for what's become of our country. I can just imagine the things that were flashing thru his mind in trying to formulate an answer to that question, knowing his every move and word is being scrutinized for the news.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 2, 2020 18:14:48 GMT
Shun trump
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Post by sam9 on Jun 2, 2020 18:16:31 GMT
What is a "racialized Canadian"? A racialized person? A visible minority? Someone who is first "seen" for what race, religion, creed he belongs to?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 18:56:27 GMT
What is a "racialized Canadian"? A racialized person? A visible minority? Someone who is first "seen" for what race, religion, creed he belongs to? I asked because I had not heard the word racialized being used to describe a person before. So why the attitude? I’m getting really sick of people jumping on others for no reason than just to be rude.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 2, 2020 19:04:55 GMT
A racialized person? A visible minority? Someone who is first "seen" for what race, religion, creed he belongs to? I asked because I had not heard the word racialized being used to describe a person before. So why the attitude? I’m getting really sick of people jumping on others for no reason than just to be rude. I use question marks a lot. This is new to me but I understand it. #canadian
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 2, 2020 19:11:22 GMT
I do not think that Trudeau is hero-worship-worthy, but I really do wish that we had a president here who could say those words.
I saw someone on Twitter say that being Canada is like living upstairs from a meth lab right now.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 19:21:16 GMT
I asked because I had not heard the word racialized being used to describe a person before. So why the attitude? I’m getting really sick of people jumping on others for no reason than just to be rude. I use question marks a lot. This is new to me but I understand it. #canadian In some instances I see using question marks as asking a legitimate question, as in "I'm not sure, this could be a possibility." But in most situations I take it as "Duh, are you that stupid?" That is how I took the response to my question.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 2, 2020 19:25:09 GMT
I use question marks a lot. This is new to me but I understand it. #canadian In some instances I see using question marks as asking a legitimate question, as in "I'm not sure, this could be a possibility." But in most situations I take it as "Duh, are you that stupid?" That is how I took the response to my question. Please don’t read it like it was a duh you are stupid comment. It’s new to us too but I can feel it.
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Post by sam9 on Jun 2, 2020 19:36:02 GMT
A racialized person? A visible minority? Someone who is first "seen" for what race, religion, creed he belongs to? I asked because I had not heard the word racialized being used to describe a person before. So why the attitude? I’m getting really sick of people jumping on others for no reason than just to be rude. Sorry, but I was really thinking you were asking a question and I was thinking of possible answers for you. If you weren’t looking for an answer, then I don’t get your comment. I’m thinking you jumped down my throat pretty quickly. Edited to add: he said it in conversation and not in a rehearsed speech so maybe it does sound like strange terminology.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 19:45:02 GMT
I asked because I had not heard the word racialized being used to describe a person before. So why the attitude? I’m getting really sick of people jumping on others for no reason than just to be rude. Sorry, but I was really thinking you were asking a question and I was thinking of possible answers for you. If you weren’t looking for an answer, then I don’t get your comment. I’m thinking you jumped down my throat pretty quickly. Edited to add: he said it in conversation and not in a rehearsed speech so maybe it does sound like strange terminology. I WAS asking a question. I took your use of question marks as “duh? Why don’t you know that?”
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Post by sleepingbooty on Jun 2, 2020 19:54:35 GMT
*scatters zen vibes in the thread* Racialism was actually a particular way of thinking that people's ethnic backgrounds determined their capacities and characteristics. Thanks to progress in science, we know nowadays that population genetics do not determine such qualities and traits. 'Racialised' in this context means that someone is singled out first and foremost because of their ethnic background such as a Black person being singled out for traffic stops, say. Trudeau was speaking correctly albeit using a term that isn't very widespread nowadays.
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Olan
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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2020 20:07:44 GMT
Sorry, but I was really thinking you were asking a question and I was thinking of possible answers for you. If you weren’t looking for an answer, then I don’t get your comment. I’m thinking you jumped down my throat pretty quickly. Edited to add: he said it in conversation and not in a rehearsed speech so maybe it does sound like strange terminology. I WAS asking a question. I took your use of question marks as “duh? Why don’t you know that?” And now could be a great opportunity to say “Hey thanks for answering my question. Sorry I read your response wrong.” No?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 20:08:22 GMT
Sorry, but I was really thinking you were asking a question and I was thinking of possible answers for you. If you weren’t looking for an answer, then I don’t get your comment. I’m thinking you jumped down my throat pretty quickly. Edited to add: he said it in conversation and not in a rehearsed speech so maybe it does sound like strange terminology. I WAS asking a question. I took your use of question marks as “duh? Why don’t you know that?” ETA that I am sorry if I took it in a way that was not intended.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 20:09:27 GMT
I WAS asking a question. I took your use of question marks as “duh? Why don’t you know that?” And now could be a great opportunity to say “Hey thanks for answering my question. Sorry I read your response wrong.” No? I think you are the last person to tell someone to apologize. But I did just add an apology while you were posting.
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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2020 20:15:16 GMT
And now could be a great opportunity to say “Hey thanks for answering my question. Sorry I read your response wrong.” No? I think you are the last person to tell someone to apologize. But I did just add an apology while you were posting. Am I the last person because you believe I’m someone who never apologizes or you just mad? And yes I did see my response may have prompted an apology though anyone else “watching” should also see your reluctance and how long it took. You were just talking about kindness you know.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 2, 2020 20:32:02 GMT
I think you are the last person to tell someone to apologize. But I did just add an apology while you were posting. Am I the last person because you believe I’m someone who never apologizes or you just mad? And yes I did see my response may have prompted an apology though anyone else “watching” should also see your reluctance and how long it took. You were just talking about kindness you know. Don’t flatter yourself. My edit to add the apology had nothing to do with your post. I didn’t even see your post until after I posted it. I posted on the other thread that I could have taken it differently than it was intended, then came to this post to edit. If I want to quote or edit I have to switch from my laptop to my phone because I have problems with my web browser.
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Post by flanz on Jun 2, 2020 20:32:36 GMT
What is a "racialized Canadian"? A racialized person? A visible minority? Someone who is first "seen" for what race, religion, creed he belongs to? I'm another who had never heard that term, but I like your description. Rings true.
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Post by flanz on Jun 2, 2020 20:34:38 GMT
I use question marks a lot. This is new to me but I understand it. #canadian In some instances I see using question marks as asking a legitimate question, as in "I'm not sure, this could be a possibility." But in most situations I take it as "Duh, are you that stupid?" That is how I took the response to my question. I highly value respectful dialogue and despise rudeness. I didn't read her response as rude. (((HUGS))) One thing I've heard a lot in my UU congregation is the need to "assume good intentions."
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on Jun 2, 2020 21:40:28 GMT
I read this and nodded and moved on. But, later I saw the video and it was so much better than reading the words. The pause seemed to go on forever. Stacy
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 2, 2020 22:06:50 GMT
In some instances I see using question marks as asking a legitimate question, as in "I'm not sure, this could be a possibility." But in most situations I take it as "Duh, are you that stupid?" That is how I took the response to my question. I highly value respectful dialogue and despise rudeness. I didn't read her response as rude. (((HUGS))) One thing I've heard a lot in my UU congregation is the need to "assume good intentions." I think everyone is a little on edge these days...especially given what 2020 has brought us all so far.
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Post by quiltz on Jun 3, 2020 4:32:51 GMT
Stephen Colbert did a great job of incorporating the clip of Mr. Trudeau in his monologue tonight!
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Post by pjaye on Jun 3, 2020 11:48:59 GMT
I generally like Trudeau, but wasn't impressed with his response here The other world leaders need to start saying what they think and publicly standing up against the orange menace, it's chicken shit to keep staying silent in the wake of all that he has done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 13:11:33 GMT
I generally like Trudeau, but wasn't impressed with his response here The other world leaders need to start saying what they think and publicly standing up against the orange menace, it's chicken shit to keep staying silent in the wake of all that he has done. and bring themselves down to his level ?- no thanks. Silence is golden when dealing with Trump, nothing annoys him more than being ignored. There are ways and means for them to subtly voice their disapproval and many of them have if you listen to them carefully rather than to have a twitter spat with someone of such low intelligence as Trump.
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Post by psiluvu on Jun 3, 2020 13:19:56 GMT
He used to be a drama teacher, IMO that was pure drama meant to make sure the press didn't ask him yet again about his black face stunt.
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