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Post by librarylady on Jun 27, 2020 0:33:45 GMT
So WHY does my niece have a sling surgery for stress incontinence scheduled for Tuesday?
(in Dallas, one of the cities mentioned for having no surgery)
I would not consider this emergency/required surgery.
(Why is it my concern? Because I said, "Yes I will take you to the hospital" ---before I learned she has to be at the hospital at 5 AM. --which means I shall have to roll out of bed around 3:15 in order to get her there in time. I said yes when no one knew what time the surgery would be scheduled.)
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Post by peano on Jun 27, 2020 1:15:14 GMT
Maybe she was already on the schedule before the governor's decree, and it applied only to surgeries from that point on?
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 27, 2020 1:38:24 GMT
I’m sure she considers it if not an emergency at least something very important that she doesn’t want to have put off.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 27, 2020 1:42:26 GMT
Remember you may not be able to go into the hospital.
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Post by paperamy on Jun 27, 2020 2:58:44 GMT
Surgeries are usually scheduled early in the morning, pandemic or no pandemic.
If it wasn’t in a pandemic, and she asked you to drive her...would you still be complaining about the early hour?
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 27, 2020 5:14:33 GMT
So WHY does my niece have a sling surgery for stress incontinence scheduled for Tuesday? If the orders came down late today, I'd expect the hospital is scrambling to confirm what they can do. She may not get notified until Monday that her surgery is canceled. The early hour does suck, but it sounds like she is scheduled for the first surgery of the day which is always a good thing IMHO. |
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Post by katiekaty on Jun 27, 2020 20:14:13 GMT
There is conditions attached to the no elective surgeries ban. Hospitals and other facilities can still do surgeries as long as a certain percentage of beds, staffing, supplies are maintained for COVID rearming/ access and it doesn’t require needs from public resources for PPE.
Your nieces surgery may not be emergency but is deemed necessary. You will most likely just drop her off, leave your number to called when she’s ready for pick and they will give you discharge instructions over the phone. You go pick her up and she will be wheeled out to the car. Not much to it. Bring masks because you and her will need them at the hospital. Her surgery won’t be long and recovery should about an hour. Time enough to go get breakfast and read a book!
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Post by librarylady on Jun 27, 2020 20:24:28 GMT
Surgeries are usually scheduled early in the morning, pandemic or no pandemic. If it wasn’t in a pandemic, and she asked you to drive her...would you still be complaining about the early hour? Yes, because I'd still have to get up at 3:30.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 27, 2020 20:26:03 GMT
Remember you may not be able to go into the hospital. Yes. Have my bag of books etc. to take.
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Post by Merge on Jun 27, 2020 23:19:49 GMT
So here in Houston, Abbott appears to have made a deal with the Texas Medical Center for there to be a big loophole in the no elective surgeries rule in exchange for the hospital executives doing a 180 in reporting their ICUs being at capacity. Elective surgeries are very profitable. They also took away the markers in their website that indicated each phase of state reopening on the graphs showing the upward curve of cases, presumably because it made Abbott look bad. And as of right now, they’ve stopped their website reporting of cases and hospital capacity entirely. It has all the markings of a very dirty deal. I’m sure something similar happened in Dallas.
I’m waiting to hear if my scheduled hysterectomy will go forward in July. And then I have to decide ethically if it’s the right thing to do right now. There are medical and quality of life reasons for my surgery, and if I canceled it they’d likely just fill the slot with another elective surgery, but still. I hope to hear from the surgeon on Monday.
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 28, 2020 0:07:38 GMT
So here in Houston, Abbott appears to have made a deal with the Texas Medical Center for there to be a big loophole in the no elective surgeries rule in exchange for the hospital executives doing a 180 in reporting their ICUs being at capacity. Elective surgeries are very profitable. They also took away the markers in their website that indicated each phase of state reopening on the graphs showing the upward curve of cases, presumably because it made Abbott look bad. And as of right now, they’ve stopped their website reporting of cases and hospital capacity entirely. It has all the markings of a very dirty deal. I’m sure something similar happened in Dallas. I’m waiting to hear if my scheduled hysterectomy will go forward in July. And then I have to decide ethically if it’s the right thing to do right now. There are medical and quality of life reasons for my surgery, and if I canceled it they’d likely just fill the slot with another elective surgery, but still. I hope to hear from the surgeon on Monday.  I’d be SO upset with these shenanigans. Especially having an elective surgery scheduled, and having to make this decision now myself. I feel your dilemma. My dad was scheduled for a hip replacement on March 31st. It was long overdue, the joint was down to bone - and was exceedingly painful - so very good reasons not to prolong it. Due to Covid, they halted elective surgeries in Australia on April 1st. Initially my dad was going to be that last one on the 31st before they shut down. But they assessed their PPE stocks on March 29th, and decided to halt them, then and there. Thankfully, they came back after they flattened the curve, and obtained a ton more PPE, and he was able to have the first day they were back. I get that they’re profitable, but do they have enough PPE to continue with them and deal with the current surge? This seems like what they should be considering firstly. And you shouldn’t be the one who has to make this call for yourself, because they won’t. 😐 I agree, it smacks of shadiness. |
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Post by Merge on Jun 28, 2020 0:15:45 GMT
So here in Houston, Abbott appears to have made a deal with the Texas Medical Center for there to be a big loophole in the no elective surgeries rule in exchange for the hospital executives doing a 180 in reporting their ICUs being at capacity. Elective surgeries are very profitable. They also took away the markers in their website that indicated each phase of state reopening on the graphs showing the upward curve of cases, presumably because it made Abbott look bad. And as of right now, they’ve stopped their website reporting of cases and hospital capacity entirely. It has all the markings of a very dirty deal. I’m sure something similar happened in Dallas. I’m waiting to hear if my scheduled hysterectomy will go forward in July. And then I have to decide ethically if it’s the right thing to do right now. There are medical and quality of life reasons for my surgery, and if I canceled it they’d likely just fill the slot with another elective surgery, but still. I hope to hear from the surgeon on Monday. I’d be SO upset with these shenanigans. Especially having an elective surgery scheduled, and having to make this decision now myself. I feel your dilemma. My dad was scheduled for a hip replacement on March 31st. It was long overdue, the joint was down to bone - and was exceedingly painful - so very good reasons not to prolong it. Due to Covid, they halted elective surgeries in Australia on April 1st. Initially my dad was going to be that last one on the 31st before they shut down. But they assessed their PPE stocks on March 29th, and decided to halt them, then and there. Thankfully, they came back after they flattened the curve, and obtained a ton more PPE, and he was able to have the first day they were back. I get that they’re profitable, but do they have enough PPE to continue with them and deal with the current surge? This seems like what they should be considering firstly. And you shouldn’t be the one who has to make this call for yourself, because they won’t. 😐 I agree, it smacks of shadiness. I'll be asking my surgeon about the PPE situation. The hospital I'm supposed to have surgery in - The Woman's Hospital of Texas - is not actually part of TMC, and I don't believe they're treating COVID patients (though it's possible they have patients in for other things who test positive). |
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 28, 2020 0:32:20 GMT
I’d be SO upset with these shenanigans. Especially having an elective surgery scheduled, and having to make this decision now myself. I feel your dilemma. My dad was scheduled for a hip replacement on March 31st. It was long overdue, the joint was down to bone - and was exceedingly painful - so very good reasons not to prolong it. Due to Covid, they halted elective surgeries in Australia on April 1st. Initially my dad was going to be that last one on the 31st before they shut down. But they assessed their PPE stocks on March 29th, and decided to halt them, then and there. Thankfully, they came back after they flattened the curve, and obtained a ton more PPE, and he was able to have the first day they were back. I get that they’re profitable, but do they have enough PPE to continue with them and deal with the current surge? This seems like what they should be considering firstly. And you shouldn’t be the one who has to make this call for yourself, because they won’t. 😐 I agree, it smacks of shadiness. I'll be asking my surgeon about the PPE situation. The hospital I'm supposed to have surgery in - The Woman's Hospital of Texas - is not actually part of TMC, and I don't believe they're treating COVID patients (though it's possible they have patients in for other things who test positive). Yes, that would be my primary ethical concern, potentially depriving a doc/nurse somewhere down the track of vital PPE for Covid patients. My dad was ok with the delay, because ethically he didn’t want to be responsible for that, like you - even though he was on strong painkillers (that didn’t help), to get through the delay. I’d have that conversation with them first before making a decision, definitely. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 28, 2020 0:35:35 GMT
So WHY does my niece have a sling surgery for stress incontinence scheduled for Tuesday?
(in Dallas, one of the cities mentioned for having no surgery)
I would not consider this emergency/required surgery.
(Why is it my concern? Because I said, "Yes I will take you to the hospital" ---before I learned she has to be at the hospital at 5 AM. --which means I shall have to roll out of bed around 3:15 in order to get her there in time. I said yes when no one knew what time the surgery would be scheduled.)
Like I said above, my dads was postponed two days before he was due for surgery. After they checked their PPE stocks. They are likely checking on that in hospitals there, right now. It may still not go ahead. |
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 28, 2020 1:46:43 GMT
I'm in the DFW area and my mom is having elective surgery on Wednesday. I keep wondering it if it going to get cancelled
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 3:48:04 GMT
One of best friends is a family MD in a large regional practice. She has taken four (4) pay cuts since COVID started due to a vast majority of surgeries not being performed because surgeries are the money makers for hospitals. From a business perspective - no matter how crappy it sounds - hospitals have to keep things moving at some point so they can pay their front line doctors and nurses who are on the battle lines.
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Post by zookeeper on Jun 28, 2020 12:15:42 GMT
I'm in the DFW area and my mom is having elective surgery on Wednesday. The are only canceled in Dallas County. My dh's hospital is in Collin County and they have not stopped elective procedures. |
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Post by gracieplusthree on Aug 2, 2020 2:28:24 GMT
I just had a hysterectomy Tuesday and had major fears it would be cancelled but it wasn't. They did do a temp check upon arrival(outside actually) and gave me a mask..It was scheduled as day surgery but she kept me a night since I'm on blood thinner and have some heart issues. No one was allowed in with me initially, my daughter dropped me off at the door. I could have had one guest the following day,but my daughter was my ride and she's preggo so had no interest in coming in, so picked me up at the door..
The pre-op room was fairly full with other patients, but many of them may have gone home same day.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 2, 2020 2:49:21 GMT
Remember you may not be able to go into the hospital. Yes. Have my bag of books etc. to take.
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Post by grammanisi on Aug 2, 2020 2:59:04 GMT
My granddaughter's boyfriend had shoulder surgery, yesterday. He was quarantined for a week and had his temp taken before he could enter the hospital. No one could go in with him.
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Post by jubejubes on Aug 2, 2020 3:02:27 GMT
My grandfather's boyfriend had shoulder surgery, yesterday. He was quarantined for a week and had his temp taken before he could enter the hospital. No one could go in with him. Bold is mine. I thought that your dad passed away, so is His DAD still alive? Hopefully a type. |
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Post by grammanisi on Aug 2, 2020 14:56:21 GMT
My grandfather's boyfriend had shoulder surgery, yesterday. He was quarantined for a week and had his temp taken before he could enter the hospital. No one could go in with him. Bold is mine. I thought that your dad passed away, so is His DAD still alive? Hopefully a type. I fixed it. Granddaughter's boyfriend! |
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Post by Belle on Aug 2, 2020 15:18:32 GMT
I just had a hysterectomy Tuesday and had major fears it would be cancelled but it wasn't. They did do a temp check upon arrival(outside actually) and gave me a mask..It was scheduled as day surgery but she kept me a night since I'm on blood thinner and have some heart issues. No one was allowed in with me initially, my daughter dropped me off at the door. I could have had one guest the following day,but my daughter was my ride and she's preggo so had no interest in coming in, so picked me up at the door.. The pre-op room was fairly full with other patients, but many of them may have gone home same day. I hope your recovery is going well. It is interesting to see how different things are across the country. Here in Seattle, many place are dong a temp check on the sidewalk just to get into a hair salon. For surgery, many places (not sure if all?) are requiring Covid tests a couple of days before, then you have to self quarantine at home until your surgery. A good friend had a procedure 2 weeks ago and she asked what would happen if the Covid test was positive, would she not be able to get her procedure done. She was told they would still do the procedure but just take extra cautions. |
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I’d be SO upset with these shenanigans. Especially having an elective surgery scheduled, and having to make this decision now myself. 
