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Post by freecharlie on Jun 30, 2020 5:25:11 GMT
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 30, 2020 8:56:15 GMT
Absolutely.
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Post by Olan on Jun 30, 2020 11:17:39 GMT
Another powerful read: I have rape-colored skin. My light-brown-blackness is a living testament to the rules, the practices, the causes of the Old South. If there are those who want to remember the legacy of the Confederacy, if they want monuments, well, then, my body is a monument. My skin is a monument. Dead Confederates are honored all over this country — with cartoonish private statues, solemn public monuments and even in the names of United States Army bases. It fortifies and heartens me to witness the protests against this practice and the growing clamor from serious, nonpartisan public servants to redress it. But there are still those — like President Trump and the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell — who cannot understand the difference between rewriting and reframing the past. I say it is not a matter of “airbrushing” history, but of adding a new perspective. I am a black, Southern woman, and of my immediate white male ancestors, all of them were rapists. My very existence is a relic of slavery and Jim Crow. According to the rule of hypodescent (the social and legal practice of assigning a genetically mixed-race person to the race with less social power) I am the daughter of two black people, the granddaughter of four black people, the great-granddaughter of eight black people. Go back one more generation and it gets less straightforward, and more sinister. As far as family history has always told, and as modern DNA testing has allowed me to confirm, I am the descendant of black women who were domestic servants and white men who raped their help. It is an extraordinary truth of my life that I am biologically more than half white, and yet I have no white people in my genealogy in living memory. No. Voluntary. Whiteness. I am more than half white, and none of it was consensual. White Southern men — my ancestors — took what they wanted from women they did not love, over whom they had extraordinary power, and then failed to claim their children. What is a monument but a standing memory? An artifact to make tangible the truth of the past. My body and blood are a tangible truth of the South and its past. The black people I come from were owned by the white people I come from. The white people I come from fought and died for their Lost Cause. And I ask you now, who dares to tell me to celebrate them? Who dares to ask me to accept their mounted pedestals? You cannot dismiss me as someone who doesn’t understand. You cannot say it wasn’t my family members who fought and died. My blackness does not put me on the other side of anything. It puts me squarely at the heart of the debate. I don’t just come from the South. I come from Confederates. I’ve got rebel-gray blue blood coursing my veins. My great-grandfather Will was raised with the knowledge that Edmund Pettus was his father. Pettus, the storied Confederate general, the grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, the man for whom Selma’s Bloody Sunday Bridge is named. So I am not an outsider who makes these demands. I am a great-great-granddaughter. And here I’m called to say that there is much about the South that is precious to me. I do my best teaching and writing here. There is, however, a peculiar model of Southern pride that must now, at long last, be reckoned with. This is not an ignorant pride but a defiant one. It is a pride that says, “Our history is rich, our causes are justified, our ancestors lie beyond reproach.” It is a pining for greatness, if you will, a wish again for a certain kind of American memory. A monument-worthy memory. But here’s the thing: Our ancestors don’t deserve your unconditional pride. Yes, I am proud of every one of my black ancestors who survived slavery. They earned that pride, by any decent person’s reckoning. But I am not proud of the white ancestors whom I know, by virtue of my very existence, to be bad actors. Among the apologists for the Southern cause and for its monuments, there are those who dismiss the hardships of the past. They imagine a world of benevolent masters, and speak with misty eyes of gentility and honor and the land. They deny plantation rape, or explain it away, or question the degree of frequency with which it occurred. To those people it is my privilege to say, I am proof. I am proof that whatever else the South might have been, or might believe itself to be, it was and is a space whose prosperity and sense of romance and nostalgia were built upon the grievous exploitation of black life. The dream version of the Old South never existed. Any manufactured monument to that time in that place tells half a truth at best. The ideas and ideals it purports to honor are not real. To those who have embraced these delusions: Now is the time to re-examine your position. Either you have been blind to a truth that my body’s story forces you to see, or you really do mean to honor the oppressors at the expense of the oppressed, and you must at last acknowledge your emotional investment in a legacy of hate. Either way, I say the monuments of stone and metal, the monuments of cloth and wood, all the man-made monuments, must come down. I defy any sentimental Southerner to defend our ancestors to me. I am quite literally made of the reasons to strip them of their laurels. www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/opinion/confederate-monuments-racism.amp.html
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Post by hop2 on Jun 30, 2020 11:53:07 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jun 30, 2020 12:37:44 GMT
youtu.be/e0QlggplBFoLate 80’s Golden Girl episode. Wonder what can be said about the historians/educated people who could have thwarted the idiots before 2020. Like superheroes almost.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:01:16 GMT
youtu.be/e0QlggplBFoLate 80’s Golden Girl episode. Wonder what can be said about the historians/educated people who could have thwarted the idiots before 2020. Like superheroes almost. 32 freaking years ago. And here we still are. Thank you, Olan, for the reminder of how much we could have accomplished if we'd been serious and seriously paying attention all these decades. I vow to never let this shit go again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:08:00 GMT
"In 1936, the two were interviewed in Mulberry, Florida, by Pearl Randolph as part of the Negro Writers Unit. The goal was to collect as many firsthand accounts as possible from those who were formerly enslaved. Now permanently housed in the Library of Congress, Louisa’s recollection of her wedding night is something out of a horror story: “Master Jim called me and Sam ter him and ordered Sam to pull off his shirt—that was all the McClain niggers wore—and he said to me: Nor[nickname of Louisa], ‘do you think you can stand this big nigger?’ He had that old bull whip flung acrost his shoulder and Lawd, that man could hit so hard! So I jes said ‘yassure, I guess so,’ and tried to hide my face so I couldn’t see Sam’s nakedness, but he made me look at him anyhow. Well, he told us what we must git busy and do in his presence, and we had to do it. After that we were considered man and wife.” Jim McClain’s cruelness was not specific to the Everetts. He did this as a businessman and for his own sick pleasure. The Everetts also recalled that Jim McClain would often force those he’d enslaved to have sex in his presence to assure they bred healthy offspring. Other times, he would invite friends to watch them have forced intercourse, allowing his friends to rape young women as their husbands or lovers watched, unable to save them. " - from above Yet we have peas who would prefer slave-owner-manager Robert E. Lee as president over Biden. And that is the sickness in America.apnews.com/afs:Content:9009420680
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:15:14 GMT
ps - donated to Truthout. That was a difficult but necessary read.
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Post by gryroagain on Jun 30, 2020 15:00:41 GMT
Olan that was beautifully poignant, and I just wanted to say I learn a lot from reading your posts over the years and this one was no different. Thank you.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 30, 2020 15:11:40 GMT
Wait, he says 'anti-Confederate' like it's a bad thing? Graham is a self loathing, disgusting, boot licking, unpatriotic Trump lackey. I wish the whole lot of them could be tried for treason.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 30, 2020 15:28:25 GMT
Wait, he says 'anti-Confederate' like it's a bad thing? Graham is a self loathing, disgusting, boot licking, unpatriotic Trump lackey. I wish the whole lot of them could be tried for treason. I’m not sure Graham says that exact phrase. That’s the headline. But Graham does say that people against the confederate flag are all socialists and anti American
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Post by fiddlesticks on Jun 30, 2020 15:53:11 GMT
Wow. Thank you for sharing.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 30, 2020 16:14:16 GMT
I have rape-colored skin. The power of this sentence stopped me in my tracks.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 30, 2020 16:26:44 GMT
oh, man... I feel nauseous. Nauseated. whatever. absolutely sickening. ETA: Honest to God, I hate the fact that we are NOT taught the *real* history of our nation. My history schooling in the 1970s and 1980s (in small-town northern Illinois) was no more than names, dates, and a few facts in passing about Ulysses Grant (because he lived in the area before he became President), and a few names/dates related to Indian battles. (which is a whole 'nother false history narrative that we've been sold, considering that we TOOK this land- via massacres, bad faith deals and lies, etc. from the people who lived here for millenia...) from the first linked article: " The idea that one can “pick the good parts” of Southern history to be prideful in is privileged. It means you can happily ignore the legacy of that flag because the history it represents never hurt you or your family. The flag is heavily embraced by many White people because it centers privilege, the White race, and power." yup. I think this is what a lot of people do (or at least have done, in the past) with history in general- ignore the bad parts, and only think about the 'romanticized' parts that show the 'teller' in a good light. And Olan , thank you very much for that post. VERY moving.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 30, 2020 16:29:10 GMT
I have come to think that way too many of us white people have coddled racists for years under the guise of civility. I think that while the racism has always been there and glaring, we let people get away with saying “heritage not hate” and so forth—we knew better, but for the sake of getting along with other white people, we were polite and non confrontational.
No more.
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Post by MaryMary on Jun 30, 2020 16:32:51 GMT
Devastating.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 30, 2020 17:37:27 GMT
Thank you for this thread, and Olan thank you for that NYT piece. This post and the way it examines language is a must read:
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Post by janeliz on Jun 30, 2020 17:44:31 GMT
Thank you for sharing that post, SockMonkey. I’ve often thought about how horrified we would all be if we went to someone’s home and they said “Back in the 1800’s, my great, great, great Uncle kept some men, women and children captive here and tortured them for several years.” We certainly wouldn’t admire the beautiful home and have parties there. Yet we did that for so many years with plantation homes in the south.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 30, 2020 17:46:07 GMT
Thank you for sharing that post, SockMonkey . I’ve often thought about how horrified we would all be if we went to someone’s home and they said “Back in the 1800’s, my great, great, great Uncle kept some men, women and children captive here and tortured them for several years.” We certainly wouldn’t admire the beautiful home and have parties there. Yet we did that for so many years with plantation homes in the south. We're still doing that... and hosting weddings there and such.
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Post by msliz on Jun 30, 2020 18:11:30 GMT
Thank you to all of you who shared articles
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Post by FrozenPea on Jun 30, 2020 18:24:08 GMT
Thank you for posting this.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 30, 2020 18:29:48 GMT
Thank you for sharing that post, SockMonkey . I’ve often thought about how horrified we would all be if we went to someone’s home and they said “Back in the 1800’s, my great, great, great Uncle kept some men, women and children captive here and tortured them for several years.” We certainly wouldn’t admire the beautiful home and have parties there. Yet we did that for so many years with plantation homes in the south. We're still doing that... and hosting weddings there and such. We are still doing that when affluent people glue the architectural symbolism of plantations on their mcmansions
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