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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 19:02:54 GMT
Do you think she’s been in New Hampshire all this time? I find it incredible that it’s taken this long to find Her. It’s not as if it hasn’t had much publicity.
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Post by kernriver on Jul 2, 2020 19:07:23 GMT
I still can’t wrap my head around a woman being involved in this type of shit. I guess I can expect to be thoroughly appalled as the fact about her involvement are further revealed. Yuck.
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 2, 2020 19:10:44 GMT
I still can’t wrap my head around a woman being involved in this type of shit. I guess I can expect to be thoroughly appalled as the fact about her involvement are further revealed. Yuck. You’d be even more appalled if you knew there are at least five other women involved in this trafficking.
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Post by gar on Jul 2, 2020 19:34:02 GMT
Do you think she’s been in New Hampshire all this time? I find it incredible that it’s taken this long to find Her. It’s not as if it hasn’t had much publicity. I heard she’s been there, being watched, for a while but not necessarily all the time.
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Post by kernriver on Jul 2, 2020 19:37:27 GMT
I still can’t wrap my head around a woman being involved in this type of shit. I guess I can expect to be thoroughly appalled as the fact about her involvement are further revealed. Yuck. You’d be even more appalled if you knew there are at least five other women involved in this trafficking. Yep. Astounded. Appalled. Wow.
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Jul 2, 2020 19:38:16 GMT
I was late to watching the documentary, but I kept thinking, "how is she not in prison?" Glad to hear this.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 2, 2020 19:41:24 GMT
Heavy speculation on the interwebs that she's already made a deal based on the unit of SDNY that is investigating/charging her.
It's not the sex trafficking unit. It's the public corruption unit.
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Post by gillyp on Jul 2, 2020 19:55:50 GMT
Heavy speculation on the interwebs that she's already made a deal based on the unit of SDNY that is investigating/charging her. It's not the sex trafficking unit. It's the public corruption unit. That wouldn’t surprise me at all. In fact nothing with regard to a deal would surprise me.
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Post by sabrinae on Jul 2, 2020 20:24:17 GMT
You’d be even more appalled if you knew there are at least five other women involved in this trafficking. Yep. Astounded. Appalled. Wow. I will further astound you — it’s not uncommon for women to be involved in this kind of abuse as enablers, recruiters and as abusers themselves. From women recruiting other girls/women to be abused and trafficked, to acting as “Madames” , to women allowing or enabling abuses of their children at the hands of “boyfriends”.
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 2, 2020 21:34:56 GMT
Do you think she’s been in New Hampshire all this time? I find it incredible that it’s taken this long to find Her. It’s not as if it hasn’t had much publicity. The FBI knew where she was but Geoffrey Berman (who was fired by Trump) had to wait until SDNY had a watertight case. According to Audrey Strauss (Berman’s temporary replacement), the US Customs and Border Protection records show Maxwell was on at least 15 international flights in the last 3 years-to the UK, Japan, and Qatar. So they knew all along where she was. What puzzles me is why Maxwell kept coming back to the US. And why did she buy the NH property in December 2019? Why stay in the US when you knew SDNY was building a case against you?
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Post by Dallie on Jul 2, 2020 22:04:50 GMT
Do you think she’s been in New Hampshire all this time? I find it incredible that it’s taken this long to find Her. It’s not as if it hasn’t had much publicity. The FBI knew where she was but Geoffrey Berman (who was fired by Trump) had to wait until SDNY had a watertight case. According to Audrey Strauss (Berman’s temporary replacement), the US Customs and Border Protection records show Maxwell was on at least 15 international flights in the last 3 years-to the UK, Japan, and Qatar. So they knew all along where she was. What puzzles me is why Maxwell kept coming back to the US. And why did she buy the NH property in December 2019? Why stay in the US when you knew SDNY was building a case against you? She thought she was untouchable.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 2, 2020 23:59:58 GMT
You’d be even more appalled if you knew there are at least five other women involved in this trafficking. I will further astound you — it’s not uncommon for women to be involved in this kind of abuse as enablers, recruiters and as abusers themselves. From women recruiting other girls/women to be abused and trafficked, to acting as “Madames” , to women allowing or enabling abuses of their children at the hands of “boyfriends”. So true!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 3, 2020 0:01:36 GMT
What puzzles me is why Maxwell kept coming back to the US. And why did she buy the NH property in December 2019? Why stay in the US when you knew SDNY was building a case against you? She thought she was invincible!
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Post by anniefb on Jul 3, 2020 1:44:17 GMT
About time. I can't believe it took this long.
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Post by vspindler on Jul 3, 2020 2:50:40 GMT
Do you think she’s been in New Hampshire all this time? I find it incredible that it’s taken this long to find Her. It’s not as if it hasn’t had much publicity. The FBI knew where she was but Geoffrey Berman (who was fired by Trump) had to wait until SDNY had a watertight case. According to Audrey Strauss (Berman’s temporary replacement), the US Customs and Border Protection records show Maxwell was on at least 15 international flights in the last 3 years-to the UK, Japan, and Qatar. So they knew all along where she was. What puzzles me is why Maxwell kept coming back to the US. And why did she buy the NH property in December 2019? Why stay in the US when you knew SDNY was building a case against you? I heard a theory that she is actually cooperating.
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Post by mom on Jul 3, 2020 3:25:35 GMT
The FBI knew where she was but Geoffrey Berman (who was fired by Trump) had to wait until SDNY had a watertight case. According to Audrey Strauss (Berman’s temporary replacement), the US Customs and Border Protection records show Maxwell was on at least 15 international flights in the last 3 years-to the UK, Japan, and Qatar. So they knew all along where she was. What puzzles me is why Maxwell kept coming back to the US. And why did she buy the NH property in December 2019? Why stay in the US when you knew SDNY was building a case against you? I heard a theory that she is actually cooperating. I fully expect that this is what is happening.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 3, 2020 6:28:03 GMT
Epstein didn't kill himself. I keep seeing this and I'm still undecided. It feel like they allowed him to commit suicide. No more 24 hour watch.
I will further astound you — it’s not uncommon for women to be involved in this kind of abuse as enablers, recruiters and as abusers themselves. From women recruiting other girls/women to be abused and trafficked, to acting as “Madames” , to women allowing or enabling abuses of their children at the hands of “boyfriends”. Sometimes they start out as the abused victim, but then they "age out". I know this is not the case for Ghislaine.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 3, 2020 11:58:31 GMT
I still can’t wrap my head around a woman being involved in this type of shit. I guess I can expect to be thoroughly appalled as the fact about her involvement are further revealed. Yuck. I can. Because money. Buckets and buckets of money. People are corrupt able assholes. Men and women.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 3, 2020 14:06:59 GMT
It's about time, how she can look at herself in a mirror is beyond me. I think there's a percentage of people (always have and always will be) who lack the semblance of a "conscious" that the rest of us embrace and adhere to. And that subset of people are titillated by their own actions and others' responses to it. Perverted for sure, but simply a truth of 'some' human behavior.
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 3, 2020 15:16:40 GMT
The FBI knew where she was but Geoffrey Berman (who was fired by Trump) had to wait until SDNY had a watertight case. According to Audrey Strauss (Berman’s temporary replacement), the US Customs and Border Protection records show Maxwell was on at least 15 international flights in the last 3 years-to the UK, Japan, and Qatar. So they knew all along where she was. What puzzles me is why Maxwell kept coming back to the US. And why did she buy the NH property in December 2019? Why stay in the US when you knew SDNY was building a case against you? I heard a theory that she is actually cooperating. No doubt. I don’t see any other way for Maxwell to reduce potential sentence. The SDNY has solid evidence on all counts on the indictment. Per Strauss’ detention memo: “As the facts set forth in the Indictment make plain, the evidence in this case is strong. Multiple victims have provided detailed, credible, and corroborated information against the defendant. The victims are backed up by contemporaneous documents, records, witness testimony, and other evidence. For example, flight records, diary entries, business records, and other evidence corroborate the victims’ account of events.”
But this is Audrey Strauss of SDNY, not Alex Acosta circa 2008 of Southern District of Florida; there won’t be a sweetheart deal here like Acosta gave Epstein. Maxwell will not only have to plead guilty, she will have to name all the other co-conspirators, all the participants, detail all of the crimes, testify against all of them. There’ll be forfeiture of assets and there won’t be any agreement to immunize all other individuals involved. And there’ll be prison time as in REAL incarceration, not the kind of quasi-incarceration for 18 months that was given to Epstein.
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Post by kernriver on Jul 3, 2020 21:01:43 GMT
How do you pronounce her name? I keep calling her Jizz-lane, and even though that is appropriate (!) I suspect it isn’t right.
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Post by pierogi on Jul 3, 2020 21:08:48 GMT
Like “Kee-LEN.”
Pronounced with a hard G. Her mother was French, and it’s not an uncommon name in French-speaking countries.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 21:25:51 GMT
Like “Kee-LEN.” Pronounced with a hard G. Her mother was French, and it’s not an uncommon name in French-speaking countries. The G is like in Geese. Geh-lane. That is how they've said it here way before all this happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 0:54:23 GMT
Been watching these podcasts. I was so focused on the sex-trafficking and rapes of young girls. I had NO idea how much else is involved. You'll learn about the Russian-mob stuff Trump, Epstein and Maxwell were into for years. I'm in shock. I cannot believe that this evil idiot has been running our Country! www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkOiNZr8D8A
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 1:51:24 GMT
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Post by grammanisi on Jul 4, 2020 1:53:25 GMT
I wonder if she will also be “committing suicide” while in jail. I hope she rots. I'd be willing to bet that happens. The powers that be will not leave witnesses. My husband and I have been saying this same thing all day.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jul 4, 2020 7:27:05 GMT
It’s ghee len.
I hope she’s naming names.
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Post by gar on Jul 4, 2020 7:39:19 GMT
It’s ghee len. I hope she’s naming names. I think it's Ghee-lane, or maybe dead woman walking...
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Post by gillyp on Jul 4, 2020 7:55:37 GMT
I know this would violate all sorts of rights but the curious me would love there to be a camera where she is held, the type naturalists put in bird nests or similar to watch eggs hatching, that the public can log into. I would love to see the conditions she is held in and the treatment from the guards and just what she’s getting up to. Whenever I see her name a little voice in my head says Follow the money and the cynic in me does not believe she is being treated like a regular prisoner.
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Post by gar on Jul 4, 2020 8:04:54 GMT
I know this would violate all sorts of rights but the curious me would love there to be a camera where she is held, the type naturalists put in bird nests or similar to watch eggs hatching, that the public can log into. I'd log into that!
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