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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 14:35:33 GMT
"A Southern California man who tested positive for coronavirus after attending a party expressed his fear and regret a day before he died. Thomas Macias, 51, went to a barbecue last month near his community in Lake Elsinore, about 70 miles from Los Angeles. Shortly after the party, he started feeling sick. On June 20, he posted a poignant message on Facebook to warn his loved ones about the risks of the virus, his family said. "I went out a couple of weeks ago ... because of my stupidity I put my mom and sisters and my family's health in jeopardy," he wrote. "This has been a very painful experience. This is no joke. If you have to go out, wear a mask, and practice social distancing. ... Hopefully with God's help, I'll be able to survive this.... A friend who was at the party reached out to Macias to say he had coronavirus, and he was aware of the diagnosis when he attended the gathering but didn't think he could infect anyone because he had no symptoms, Lopez said. "Our understanding is that a gentleman had called him and said 'hey I was at the party, I knew I was positive. I didn't tell anybody,'" Lopez said. "I think the gentleman was regretting not telling everybody, and he was calling people who were at the party to recommend they get tested." Macias was upset but blamed himself for the error in judgment, even using his Facebook post to warn friends about the dangers of the virus. About a dozen people who attended the party tested positive, Lopez said. " He never made it. He died a day after that post." www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/california-thomas-macias-coronavirus/index.htmlLook, I get it. He misses his friends. I miss my friends. You probably miss your friends. But how many ways can we be told THIS AIN'T OVER! ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE CAN PASS THE VIRUS. FFS AT LEAST WEAR A MASK. Or, just hope for the best and pray to God to reverse physics, chemistry and biology so you can go to a party and magically not be affected by the laws of nature. |
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Post by pancakes on Jul 2, 2020 14:38:22 GMT
I saw this  It makes me even more worried about going to run errands. Like, I know I'm not hanging out with them, mask off, at a party, but I have no doubt there are people with COVID roaming around not caring who they infect. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 2, 2020 14:39:26 GMT
Can't wait to go back to school in person with 1100 people.
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Post by ashley on Jul 2, 2020 14:46:37 GMT
Tragic Everyone at that party was stupid to be there but how incredibly selfish of the attendee who knew he was positive! Such ignorance! |
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Post by Merge on Jul 2, 2020 14:49:54 GMT
Can't wait to go back to school in person with 1100 people. Oh come on now, you should be totally willing to risk your life for the economy. Do it for the children! |
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Post by gar on Jul 2, 2020 14:53:38 GMT
A friend who was at the party reached out to Macias to say he had coronavirus, and he was aware of the diagnosis when he attended the gathering but didn't think he could infect anyone because he had no symptoms, Really - how it is possible not to know that you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus? The number of people who cold legitimately claim that must be minuscule. He'll have to live with that regret for the rest of his life but equally the guy himself paid dearly for going to the party. |
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Post by Just T on Jul 2, 2020 14:53:51 GMT
I am soooo nervous about a party I am supposed to go to this weekend.
My sister's first grandchild is turning 1. Her son and his wife and baby are here (in MO) from Utah, and she is having an outdoor party. I have never met the baby, and I really want to go. But UGH. Thankfully, it's going to be outdoors at her house. She lives in the country, lots of space, etc, but I also know that this part of my family are huge Trump supporters, I doubt anyone will be wearing a mask. She has said she will cancel it if the weather doesn't permit an outdoor gathering, but I still am nervous!
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 2, 2020 14:59:29 GMT
I think we need a campaign to actually explain “asymptomatic” because it seems pretty clear many people don’t understand what it means and why it’s problematic in spreading Covid-19.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 2, 2020 15:05:15 GMT
And this is why DS and I continue to self quarantine. Exactly this. Tons of family are going to Hampton Beach in NH this weekend. Several cousins invited us. No thank you. I need to do what I feel is right for myself and DS. BFF said "come over for a cookout this weekend". No thank you. I'll be home, working on projects I need/want to get done. Do I want to go to Hampton? Yes I do. Would I like to go to the cookout? Absolutely. But I don't feel those things are worth taking a risk no matter how small.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Jul 2, 2020 15:06:17 GMT
I think we need a campaign to actually explain “asymptomatic” because it seems pretty clear many people don’t understand what it means and why it’s problematic in spreading Covid-19. I wish they'd started off calling it "presymptomatic" because while a few never develop symptoms, it much more accurately portrays the problem. |
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 2, 2020 15:09:42 GMT
A friend who was at the party reached out to Macias to say he had coronavirus, and he was aware of the diagnosis when he attended the gathering but didn't think he could infect anyone because he had no symptoms, Really - how it is possible not to know that you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus? The number of people who cold legitimately claim that must be minuscule. He'll have to live with that regret for the rest of his life but equally the guy himself paid dearly for going to the party. It’s so sad, but we are collectively clearly a lot less informed then we need to be. We need to stop focusing on “asymptomatic” and start talking about contagious. Ugh. |
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Post by craftykitten on Jul 2, 2020 15:10:23 GMT
And this is why I'm staying away from people. I don't trust them to do the right thing. Its one thing to be asymptomatic and not realise you have it, its another thing entirely to have it confirmed and still carry on as normal.
How tragic for those affected.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 2, 2020 15:11:40 GMT
Really - how it is possible not to know that you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus? The number of people who cold legitimately claim that must be minuscule. I’m shocked every single day by the things people still believe, both in regards to COVID and other things, as well. It has to be willful ignorance, which is shameful. |
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Post by ashley on Jul 2, 2020 15:14:39 GMT
Really - how it is possible not to know that you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus? The number of people who cold legitimately claim that must be minuscule. I’m shocked every single day by the things people still believe, both in regards to COVID and other things, as well. It has to be willful ignorance, which is shameful. right? Masks don’t help. It’s just a flu. Children can’t spread it. My fun life is worth more than yours. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 15:14:42 GMT
I think we need a campaign to actually explain “asymptomatic” because it seems pretty clear many people don’t understand what it means and why it’s problematic in spreading Covid-19. This!!!!!! I think that the answer is due to conflicting information coming from government and even lack of information coming out. It's been handled so horribly! DH & I both have family who are going to go out this weekend. They're all in NY and they've informed and safe for months. Seems like they're even letting their guard down a bit. DH's son is going to an outdoor barbecue with 2 other couples. Great, they're keeping it small, staying outdoors. But unless they do stay distanced, even outdoors, and unless they remain masked the whole time (don't know how you do that while you're drinking and eating???), and if they don't go inside the house to use the bathroom, it could be safe. Not worth it!!!!! My stupid ex just told DD that he's going on his friend's new boat this weekend (just a few people). He's got heart issues. I can't imagine a boat being safe in the least -- even a yacht is too tight to escape sneezes, etc. Even my 85 year old mom is beginning to want to "go back to normal", go to restaurants, stores, etc... It's very scary!!!! I get scared every time I have to go food shopping!! FL is out of control. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 15:16:09 GMT
Really - how it is possible not to know that you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus? The number of people who cold legitimately claim that must be minuscule. I’m shocked every single day by the things people still believe, both in regards to COVID and other things, as well. It has to be willful ignorance, which is shameful. It's "beliefs are more important than data/evidence/science/studies/". If they "believe it' - it's true. Period. "I believe it's a hoax." "I believe it's not a big deal." "I believe it only affects old people." "I believe masks don't do anything." |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 2, 2020 15:24:59 GMT
I’ve had a few different people tel me within the last week that asymptomatic people can’t spread the virus. Ugh.
ETA that the more I hear, the more selective we are about what activities we are participating in. For example, last weekend my extended family had a graduation party and a bridal shower in Iowa. We were thinking about going because we haven’t seen family since Christmas. My mom was only going to the shower if it was outside and safety measures were taken. There were going to be 10 people there. The graduation was on the other side of the family. But last week my cousin (mon of graduate) posted pics that the Dd went to two different proms (small towns, but still). I did not feel comfortable going to that. We ended up staying here and my sister came to visit instead. But her kids were sniffling the whole time and making mer nervous. She said it was allergies, but....we had a great time but if we were exposed was it worth it?
My mom texted Sunday and said that my cousin woke up the day of the shower and had a fever. So, she and her kids didn’t go to the shower. Later she tested positive. I’m glad that she got symptoms before going to the shower and not after. That would have put my mom and all of my aunts at risk.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 2, 2020 15:30:51 GMT
I’ve had a few different people tel me within the last week that asymptomatic people can’t spread the virus. Ugh. Unfortunately the headline of asymptomatic spread being rare from the WHO in early June has perpetuated even though the comment was immediately walked back. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jul 2, 2020 15:41:42 GMT
I had just read a different article about this man. This stood out:
(USA Today)
It’s astonishing to me that so many people seem to have viewed restriction lifting as a signal that life is now less risky than it was three months ago. It’s the same risk; we’re just more individually responsible for behavioral precautions now that we’ve done been sprung.
I suppose we can lump these people (who think like this unfortunate man did) in with people who believe pre/asymptomatic people are no-or-less contagious.
But how can people not be consuming every bit of information they can about how this virus is transmitted?
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 2, 2020 15:44:40 GMT
I’ve had a few different people tel me within the last week that asymptomatic people can’t spread the virus. Ugh. Unfortunately the headline of asymptomatic spread being rare from the WHO in early June has perpetuated even though the comment was immediately walked back. some of the crap people spout is definitely the headlines that show up on fb and other places. I know they write them hoping people will click to read more, but often that isn't the case and people just spout the headlines |
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 2, 2020 15:53:32 GMT
Can't wait to go back to school in person with 1100 people. Oh come on now, you should be totally willing to risk your life for the economy. Do it for the children! Yeah, and the parents who need to work. (i’m sooooo not ready for it on 8/7) |
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 2, 2020 15:54:41 GMT
I am soooo nervous about a party I am supposed to go to this weekend. My sister's first grandchild is turning 1. Her son and his wife and baby are here (in MO) from Utah, and she is having an outdoor party. I have never met the baby, and I really want to go. But UGH. Thankfully, it's going to be outdoors at her house. She lives in the country, lots of space, etc, but I also know that this part of my family are huge Trump supporters, I doubt anyone will be wearing a mask. She has said she will cancel it if the weather doesn't permit an outdoor gathering, but I still am nervous! I would not go. Claim migraine or something. |
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Post by Coffee Mom on Jul 2, 2020 16:36:37 GMT
The amount of ignorance and self entitlement that has been exposed since this whole thing started has been infuriating. That poor man.. I am so glad he was able to share his story before he passed. He may be saving lives.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 2, 2020 16:43:40 GMT
So I was just at the store. I needed to run out and figured if I ran out on my "lunch" hour it'd be less crazy than tomorrow. A mom with 2 kids (maybe 8-9) was in line before me, talking to the guy in line behind me. They're going to Lake George, the virus is only an issue in the southern states plus they'll be outside and that's fine even w/out masks. Guy behind me was saying the same thing. He's going to a friend's lake house for the 4th, there's a HUGE party every year and this year they have more people than ever coming. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. I guarantee we're going to see spikes EVERYWHERE after the holiday  |
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 2, 2020 16:53:28 GMT
I’m shocked every single day by the things people still believe, both in regards to COVID and other things, as well. It has to be willful ignorance, which is shameful. right? Masks don’t help. It’s just a flu. Children can’t spread it. My fun life is worth more than yours. And I’d rather die then live SIP. And I am not old and I don’t have underlying conditions, I will be fine. |
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Post by peabay on Jul 2, 2020 16:55:04 GMT
I saw this It makes me even more worried about going to run errands. Like, I know I'm not hanging out with them, mask off, at a party, but I have no doubt there are people with COVID roaming around not caring who they infect. You shouldn't worry about running errands if you are taking the proper precautions - wear your mask, maintain social distance. Don't let anyone without a mask talk to you. I won't speak to people without a mask. Plain and simple. Even if I'm wearing one. But...I'm in CT with one of the lowest transmission rates in the country. If I was in one of the more "toxic" states right now? No - I wouldn't go out. I didn't in all of March and April in CT. Had everything delivered. Maybe ran in and out of a grocery store every 2 weeks. |
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 2, 2020 16:58:00 GMT
I saw this  It makes me even more worried about going to run errands. Like, I know I'm not hanging out with them, mask off, at a party, but I have no doubt there are people with COVID roaming around not caring who they infect. And I'm even more worried because I've been back to work for a couple weeks now, and proper mask wearing and social distancing are nearly nonexistent. And disinfecting? Fucking joke. An employee half ass wipes a cart handle with a wadded up used paper towel & a squirt of hand sanitizer. High touch surfaces being cleaned? Nope. That's a fucking lie. Hell, even the bathroom is only cleaned once a day, and that is just surface filth cleaning. No real disinfecting. It does not matter if a store plays a message over the loud speaker about how they are keeping the customers safe and healthy. It is all a fucking lie that they are not held accountable to. They don't care if you catch COVID19 in their store as long as you are handing over the last of your unemployment and stimulus bucks on the way to your grave. |
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Post by theroadlesstraveledp on Jul 2, 2020 17:09:07 GMT
This is so very sad. I know several people that have tested positive and are battling it right now.
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Post by katlady on Jul 2, 2020 17:10:20 GMT
I am hoping for a serious case of June/July Gloom weather in my area this weekend so that there won't be as many July 4th partiers!
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Post by fiddlesticks on Jul 2, 2020 17:16:35 GMT
It is really so scary to think of the selfishness that we continue to see. A friend and I were Facetiming the other day about it. Both of us are turning into the "mean moms" because we won't let either of our kids go do things. Her DS is 15 and struggling way more than my DD who is 11 but it sucks for them both. DD is back to dance and the studio is taking great precautions. I work there one day a week and am the one doing all the sanitizing between classes. But then a group of them pile in a car after class to all go swimming at someone's house. My DD looks at me with a very pre-teen look for a second because she wants to go. Then she remembers her Nana who, if she got Covid, would not survive. The studio owner is freaking out because she is trying to do the right thing in the right way to keep her business running but then they are all hanging out with god knows who. Thank goodness we already homeschooled before this whole thing and I don't have to worry about school.
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