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Post by tinydogmafia on Jul 20, 2020 15:22:14 GMT
I cannot stand him or his wife. However, he needs immediate help for his mania. I read somewhere that he won't take medications for his Bipolar Disorder. His wife needs to step in ASAP before he has a psychotic break. I don't say that callously, as I also have Bipolar Disorder. I understand the highs and lows, but I also know I must take my meds in order to function normally. I feel bad for KK in regard to what he said yesterday about her unborn child. I'm glad her daughter is still too young to understand what was said. But someday she will.
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Post by shevy on Jul 20, 2020 17:03:41 GMT
I think it's a case of he's too rich to have someone tell him he needs to take his meds. He will just fire them and hire someone who will encourage not taking them. I think this happens to many people who gain wealth quickly and aren't used to it. I think it happened with Michael Jackson also.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 20, 2020 17:05:30 GMT
I think it's a case of he's too rich to have someone tell him he needs to take his meds. He will just fire them and hire someone who will encourage not taking them. I think this happens to many people who gain wealth quickly and aren't used to it. I think it happened with Michael Jackson also. See also: the current president
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 20, 2020 17:13:40 GMT
Well that was...uh...something.
Where is Kim? She needs to get her husband help. Now.
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Post by shevy on Jul 20, 2020 17:17:55 GMT
Well that was...uh...something. Where is Kim? She needs to get her husband help. Now. She's tried several times. However, you can't make someone seek help, they have to want to do it. Unless he's a physical danger to himself or physical danger to others and they can get a judge to mandate treatment, nothing will happen.
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Post by peasquared on Jul 21, 2020 0:05:08 GMT
He has been spiraling since his mom passed away. It is a really sad thing to see.
That said, NO! NO! NO! We do not need another incompetent man in the WH.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jul 21, 2020 4:04:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 4:14:50 GMT
No sympathy for Kim. All sympathy for those children they brought into that mess.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 21, 2020 4:26:39 GMT
I think after his crazy Twitter babble tonight we don’t have to worry about Kanye for Pres 2020 anymore. I thought the exact same thing about your current president before the last election...
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jul 21, 2020 4:55:36 GMT
I think after his crazy Twitter babble tonight we don’t have to worry about Kanye for Pres 2020 anymore. I thought the exact same thing about your current president before the last election... Dammit pjaye 🤦🏻♀️ I was trying to be optimistic.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Jul 21, 2020 6:08:36 GMT
Ok, am I the only one who didn’t know there were four kids? That was a surprise to me. I lost track after the first two (North and Saint) and vaguely remembered another pregnancy, but Chicago and Psalm are news to me. Those names aren’t familiar at all.
Kim is not someone I typically have sympathy for, but knowing how mental health care is in our country, I can’t say I envy her right now. She is essentially helpless if he doesn’t want treatment. She can talk to doctors and bring doctors to him wherever he is vacationing in a fancy home, but until he is an immediate danger to himself or others or is unable to care for his basic needs, he has to voluntarily agree to treatment. Again, not a huge Kardashian sympathizer, but this has to be hard—trying to help her husband while trying to protect her four babies, especially with the public eye and news media watching.
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Post by grammanisi on Jul 22, 2020 1:36:42 GMT
He seems to think the movie, Get Out, is about him. Does that mean he thinks the Kardashian women have hypnotized him?😁
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 22, 2020 12:17:19 GMT
No sympathy for Kim. All sympathy for those children they brought into that mess. I have sympathy for anybody who is a mom of 4 who has a husband that is very clearly battling mental illness. Seems as if she’s trying to help behind the scenes (per his tweets) but he won’t accept the help. Say what you will about the Kardashian family, they are a very close family and have proven to be very protective of their own inner circle. I can’t imagine the stuff people are saying to her right now about her husband. Take the ‘celebrity’ out of it - replace it with any ‘normal’ family and everybody here would be super sympathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 14:30:37 GMT
He seems to think the movie, Get Out, is about him. Does that mean he thinks the Kardashian women have hypnotized him?😁 Well they have destroyed many a man's life....
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Post by shevy on Jul 22, 2020 15:10:53 GMT
Now he's saying on Twitter that he has been trying to divorce Kim for a while. He really does seem to be going through a mental health crisis.
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Post by MissBianca on Jul 22, 2020 15:16:13 GMT
Ok, am I the only one who didn’t know there were four kids? That was a surprise to me. I lost track after the first two (North and Saint) and vaguely remembered another pregnancy, but Chicago and Psalm are news to me. Those names aren’t familiar at all. Kim is not someone I typically have sympathy for, but knowing how mental health care is in our country, I can’t say I envy her right now. She is essentially helpless if he doesn’t want treatment. She can talk to doctors and bring doctors to him wherever he is vacationing in a fancy home, but until he is an immediate danger to himself or others or is unable to care for his basic needs, he has to voluntarily agree to treatment. Again, not a huge Kardashian sympathizer, but this has to be hard—trying to help her husband while trying to protect her four babies, especially with the public eye and news media watching. I think the last 2 were born via a surrogate and they kept it pretty quiet til the end. According to my friends who follow entertainment news more than me, said Kim and the kids are in some other state. I’m assuming she saw this coming and is trying to keep the kids safe from him. My friends also said she’s going to law school, I wonder if that’s so she can figure out how to untangle herself and the kids from him.
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Post by peabay on Jul 22, 2020 15:25:02 GMT
It's really sad. He's manic and delusional and it's playing out for the world to see. I feel very sorry for him and while I am anti-all things Kardashian, I feel very sorry for his wife too.
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Post by janeliz on Jul 22, 2020 15:28:20 GMT
I feel for any person who is married to someone who struggles with mental health issues. That said, I’ve never seen a group of women (all of the sisters) with worse taste in men. It’s really quite striking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 15:38:30 GMT
Now he's saying on Twitter that he has been trying to divorce Kim for a while. He really does seem to be going through a mental health crisis. "“I been trying to get divorced since Kim met with Meek at the Warldolf [sic] for ‘prison reform,'” West wrote on Twitter early Wednesday. West apparently was referring to a criminal justice summit attended by Kardashian and rapper Meek Mill in November 2018. “Meek is my man and was respectful,” he added. “That’s my dog Kim was out of line.” In the series of missives, West then referred to Jenner, his mother-in-law, as “Kris Jong-Un” and said that the Kardashians were attempting to force him into psychiatric treatment. Kim Kardashian and Kanye WestReuters “They tried to fly in with 2 doctors to 51/50 me,” West said, referring to the California welfare code that says people who may be a danger to themselves can be placed in an involuntary hold. “Kriss and Kim put out a statement without my approval … that’s not what a wife should do White supremacy.”" pagesix.com/2020/07/22/kanye-west-tweets-hes-trying-to-divorce-kim-kardashian/Maybe Kim's marriage can serve as a cautionary tale on the dangers of using your celebrity to marry celebrity to make more celebrity to make more money. It's not always a cake walk. Who you marry and have kids w/isn't just a show. It's for keeps.
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 22, 2020 16:51:46 GMT
He seems to think the movie, Get Out, is about him. Does that mean he thinks the Kardashian women have hypnotized him?😁 Well they have destroyed many a man's life.... What men's lives have they destroyed?
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 22, 2020 16:56:29 GMT
Now he's saying on Twitter that he has been trying to divorce Kim for a while. He really does seem to be going through a mental health crisis. "“I been trying to get divorced since Kim met with Meek at the Warldolf [sic] for ‘prison reform,'” West wrote on Twitter early Wednesday. West apparently was referring to a criminal justice summit attended by Kardashian and rapper Meek Mill in November 2018. “Meek is my man and was respectful,” he added. “That’s my dog Kim was out of line.” In the series of missives, West then referred to Jenner, his mother-in-law, as “Kris Jong-Un” and said that the Kardashians were attempting to force him into psychiatric treatment. Kim Kardashian and Kanye WestReuters “They tried to fly in with 2 doctors to 51/50 me,” West said, referring to the California welfare code that says people who may be a danger to themselves can be placed in an involuntary hold. “Kriss and Kim put out a statement without my approval … that’s not what a wife should do White supremacy.”" pagesix.com/2020/07/22/kanye-west-tweets-hes-trying-to-divorce-kim-kardashian/Maybe Kim's marriage can serve as a cautionary tale on the dangers of using your celebrity to marry celebrity to make more celebrity to make more money. It's not always a cake walk. Who you marry and have kids w/isn't just a show. It's for keeps. Didn't Kim have a marriage that lasted less than a month? If she was just doing this for celebrity and for 'show' you don't think she would have bailed out of this mess long ago? LOL Here's what she said today: "As many of you know, Kanye has bi-polar disorder," she began. "Anyone who has this or has a loved one in their life who does, knows how incredibly complicated and painful it is to understand. I've never spoken publicly about how this has affected us at home because I am very protective of our children and Kanye's right to privacy when it comes to his health. But today, I feel like I should comment on it because of the stigma and misconceptions about mental health." "Those that understand mental illness or even compulsive behavior know that the family is powerless unless the member is a minor," she said. "People who are unaware or far removed from this experience can be judgmental and not understand that the individual themselves have to engage in the process of getting help no matter how hard family and friends try." "I understand Kanye is subject to criticism because he is a public figure and his actions at time can cause strong opinions and emotions," she continued. "He is a brilliant but complicated person who on top of being an artist and a black man, who experienced the painful loss of his mother, and has to deal with the pressure and isolation that is heightened by his bi-polar disorder. Those who are close with Kanye know his heart and understand his words sometimes do not align with his intentions." "Living with bi-polar disorder does not diminish or invalidate his dreams and his creative ideas, no matter how big or unobtainable they may feel to some. That is part of his genius and as we have all witnessed, many of his dreams have come true," she wrote. "We as a society talk about giving grace to the issue of mental health as a whole, however we should also give it to the individuals who are living with it in times when they need it the most. I kindly ask that the media and public give us the compassion and empathy that is needed so that we can get through this. Thank you for those who have expressed concern for Kanye's well-being and for your understanding."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 17:35:56 GMT
"“I been trying to get divorced since Kim met with Meek at the Warldolf [sic] for ‘prison reform,'” West wrote on Twitter early Wednesday. West apparently was referring to a criminal justice summit attended by Kardashian and rapper Meek Mill in November 2018. “Meek is my man and was respectful,” he added. “That’s my dog Kim was out of line.” In the series of missives, West then referred to Jenner, his mother-in-law, as “Kris Jong-Un” and said that the Kardashians were attempting to force him into psychiatric treatment. Kim Kardashian and Kanye WestReuters “They tried to fly in with 2 doctors to 51/50 me,” West said, referring to the California welfare code that says people who may be a danger to themselves can be placed in an involuntary hold. “Kriss and Kim put out a statement without my approval … that’s not what a wife should do White supremacy.”" pagesix.com/2020/07/22/kanye-west-tweets-hes-trying-to-divorce-kim-kardashian/Maybe Kim's marriage can serve as a cautionary tale on the dangers of using your celebrity to marry celebrity to make more celebrity to make more money. It's not always a cake walk. Who you marry and have kids w/isn't just a show. It's for keeps. Didn't Kim have a marriage that lasted less than a month? If she was just doing this for celebrity and for 'show' you don't think she would have bailed out of this mess long ago? LOL Here's what she said today: "As many of you know, Kanye has bi-polar disorder," she began. "Anyone who has this or has a loved one in their life who does, knows how incredibly complicated and painful it is to understand. I've never spoken publicly about how this has affected us at home because I am very protective of our children and Kanye's right to privacy when it comes to his health. But today, I feel like I should comment on it because of the stigma and misconceptions about mental health." "Those that understand mental illness or even compulsive behavior know that the family is powerless unless the member is a minor," she said. "People who are unaware or far removed from this experience can be judgmental and not understand that the individual themselves have to engage in the process of getting help no matter how hard family and friends try." "I understand Kanye is subject to criticism because he is a public figure and his actions at time can cause strong opinions and emotions," she continued. "He is a brilliant but complicated person who on top of being an artist and a black man, who experienced the painful loss of his mother, and has to deal with the pressure and isolation that is heightened by his bi-polar disorder. Those who are close with Kanye know his heart and understand his words sometimes do not align with his intentions." "Living with bi-polar disorder does not diminish or invalidate his dreams and his creative ideas, no matter how big or unobtainable they may feel to some. That is part of his genius and as we have all witnessed, many of his dreams have come true," she wrote. "We as a society talk about giving grace to the issue of mental health as a whole, however we should also give it to the individuals who are living with it in times when they need it the most. I kindly ask that the media and public give us the compassion and empathy that is needed so that we can get through this. Thank you for those who have expressed concern for Kanye's well-being and for your understanding." It gets tougher to leave after you add 1....2.....3......4...... kids to the mix.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 17:51:18 GMT
Kanye tweeted about never letting Kim let their kids be in Playboy - I'm not sure why he thought she would let their kids be in Playboy.
Does he mean he doesn't want them in there as minors? Totally agree w/the sentiment - wouldn't want my kids in Playboy either. But neither Kanye nor Kim nor you nor I get to control what our kids do as adults.
Interesting how these guys all don't want their kids to be in Playboy but they don't mind the nude pics and the sex tapes and the raunchy videos - as long as it's other people's kids. All those people in those pics/videos are SOMEBODY'S kids.
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Post by scrapcat on Jul 22, 2020 18:53:30 GMT
Not a fan of, but not necessarily anti Kim or Kanye, but def can empathize with the statement released by Kim about having a family member with mental health issues.
Until you've been in the situation, I probably would have passed more judgment previously as well...but have since had this experience with family and it is truly heartbreaking. There is nothing you can force a non-minor to do, unless you eventually call the police and 5150. Which the situation needs to be pretty clear for. I would imagine trying to do this with someone (famous/celebrity) who has the amount of money and resources that he does (private planes, multiple residences, etc) would be even more difficult.
It's actually a good example of how money, power and influence or celebrity is not immune to mental illness. Would be nice if they could somehow make a positive out of it about awareness and shine a light. Just another public health crisis to add to the ever growing list.
I think it's sad and I do feel for the family.
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Post by sasha on Jul 22, 2020 20:51:15 GMT
The statement put out by Kim was really the best possible statement.
But there's a part of me that wouldn't mind it if the Kardashian/Jenner family take a big hit and we see less and less of them.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 22, 2020 21:22:18 GMT
i'm not a fan of the kardashians by any stretch, and i can't believe i'm saying this,but i do agree with part of a recent statement kim made. she said that unless the person is a minor, there is not much she can do to force him to get help. he has to agree to get help.
i think if i were in her position, i would refocus my efforts on protecting my kids from the mania. they are minors and they need a stable parent.
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Post by Laurie on Jul 23, 2020 0:22:30 GMT
He seems to think the movie, Get Out, is about him. Does that mean he thinks the Kardashian women have hypnotized him?😁 Well they have destroyed many a man's life.... I’m not a Kardashian fan but this comment really bothers me. The men are all innocent and we are blaming the women? Lamar didn’t ruin his life by his drug use and desire for prostitutes? We are pinning that on his wife/ex wife?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 16:05:28 GMT
Sorry that bothers you. IMHO Kris has manipulated her kids and their SO's for maximum ratings and revenues. Disick goes to rehab...leaked. Lamar issues made part of the reality show. Kanye keeps the names in the media . Rob and Chyna - clearly dysfunctional couple - hey let's get them a show! Bruce/Caitlyn said she is not a nice person. She does not have to shine a light on her family when they are spiraling but she does for the ratings and almighty dollar.
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 23, 2020 18:30:25 GMT
Kanye tweeted about never letting Kim let their kids be in Playboy - I'm not sure why he thought she would let their kids be in Playboy. Does he mean he doesn't want them in there as minors? Totally agree w/the sentiment - wouldn't want my kids in Playboy either. But neither Kanye nor Kim nor you nor I get to control what our kids do as adults. Interesting how these guys all don't want their kids to be in Playboy but they don't mind the nude pics and the sex tapes and the raunchy videos - as long as it's other people's kids. All those people in those pics/videos are SOMEBODY'S kids. I think this was said b/c he's blaming Kris for Kim being in Playboy (if she was?) and that original sex tape getting leaked...essentially implying she pimped her out. He's defending Kim in a warbled way as being a good / better mom to their kids than Kris is/was. I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 0:05:00 GMT
Kanye tweeted about never letting Kim let their kids be in Playboy - I'm not sure why he thought she would let their kids be in Playboy. Does he mean he doesn't want them in there as minors? Totally agree w/the sentiment - wouldn't want my kids in Playboy either. But neither Kanye nor Kim nor you nor I get to control what our kids do as adults. Interesting how these guys all don't want their kids to be in Playboy but they don't mind the nude pics and the sex tapes and the raunchy videos - as long as it's other people's kids. All those people in those pics/videos are SOMEBODY'S kids. I think this was said b/c he's blaming Kris for Kim being in Playboy (if she was?) and that original sex tape getting leaked...essentially implying she pimped her out. He's defending Kim in a warbled way as being a good / better mom to their kids than Kris is/was. I think. Yeah, it felt like a smack-down to both Kris and Kim to me. But I believe Kim was an adult when she made her fortune on her sexy persona. So, not sure how Kris could/would have stopped her. In any case, it fries me when men who have not issue w/raunch, suddenly "get religion" when it comes to their kids. All kids are somebodies kids. There is a philosophy called the Veil of Ignorance: "It asks a decision-maker to make a choice about a social or moral issue and assumes that they have enough information to know the consequences of their possible decisions for everyone but would not know, or would not take into account, which person they are. The theory contends that not knowing one's ultimate position in society would lead to the creation of a just system, as the decision-maker would not want to make decisions which benefit a certain group at the expense of another, because the decision-maker could theoretically end up in either group." I wish we had to make decisions for life based on the Veil of Ignorance as it's so easy to make decisions for me/mine vs you/yours. But if we had to make decisions where we weren't sure which group we'd be in in the outcome, we'd make a more just world.
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