RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jul 11, 2020 23:04:39 GMT
I just want to say.... If someone (someone, meaning anyone) posts about whatever topic, seeking advice or asking what to do.....and many, many, many, many, many members of this board offer advice, suggestions, constructive criticism, ideas, guidance, feedback, etc... and what is said, is not what someone want to hear.......that is not bullying. That is simply someone only wanting to hear, what they want to hear. Yes... and I think there are ways of saying things that are kinder than some of the ways that people choose sometimes... The bullying part is how things are delivered, not only what is said. Especially when it sets the precedent for a pile-on.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 11, 2020 23:43:27 GMT
The bullying part is how things are delivered That's ridiculous, since when is bullying defined as "how something is delivered" The word you may be looking for is rude - but being rude or unpleasant or unkind to someone is not the same as bullying. Nor is saying something that others happen to agree with. That word actually had a definition, yet everyone seems to be tossing into every sentence to define anything that is said that someone may not like.
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jul 11, 2020 23:48:44 GMT
The bullying part is how things are delivered That's ridiculous, since when is bullying defined as "how something is delivered" The word you may be looking for is rude - but being rude or unpleasant or unkind to someone is not the same as bullying. Nor is saying something that others happen to agree with. That word actually had a definition, yet everyone seems to be tossing into every sentence to define anything that is said that someone may not like. "noun, plural bul·lies. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people. Archaic. a man hired to do violence. Obsolete. a pimp; procurer. Obsolete. good friend; good fellow. verb (used with object), bul·lied, bul·ly·ing. to act the bully toward; intimidate; domineer. verb (used without object), bul·lied, bul·ly·ing. to be loudly arrogant and overbearing."
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Post by pjaye on Jul 11, 2020 23:50:46 GMT
If you aren't enjoying this thread - then you definitely haven't earned those panties yet. This is the shit we live for.Who’s we? The people who got this thread to 19 pages (so far) and the people responsible for the almost 20.000 views. This place no matter where it's hosted has always thrived on drama like this, People would get pissed off if there was a 20 pager on the old board and it got deleted by admin for they had a chance to read it, then there would be threads asking about what was on the deleted thread. Even the people who post about how bad it is, that no-one would miss them, how it used to be better/worse in the good old days - like moths to a flame. Everyone who comes back to comment , everyone who starts posting The Hoff or jello. That's who.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 11, 2020 23:57:07 GMT
noun, plural bul·lies. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people That's the definition of A bully, not bullying. But anyway, "smaller and weaker" are physical characteristics - no sees that in an online forum, so no-one can be bullied as a result of that. No-one is "weak' here - no-one has any power over anyone else, it's a level playing field. So if it's two quarrelsome people having a go at each other - which is most commonly the case here, then it isn't bullying. (by that definition)
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Post by scrappintoee on Jul 12, 2020 0:22:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 2:13:21 GMT
The people who got this thread to 19 pages (so far) and the people responsible for the almost 20.000 views. This place no matter where it's hosted has always thrived on drama like this, People would get pissed off if there was a 20 pager on the old board and it got deleted by admin for they had a chance to read it, then there would be threads asking about what was on the deleted thread. Even the people who post about how bad it is, that no-one would miss them, how it used to be better/worse in the good old days - like moths to a flame. Everyone who comes back to comment , everyone who starts posting The Hoff or jello. That's who. You’re making huge assumptions when you say “we” as in everybody who posts and reads threads like this thrive on the drama. There is no question some people do like threads that go south and in some cases hurry it along. But I’m getting the impression a fair amount of folks are getting a bit tired of all the drama. IMO
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 12, 2020 3:15:59 GMT
I’m not trying to invalidate anyone’s view- I just am truly surprised given everything I listed where Peas are supportive and helpful that some folk come away feeling only the negatives. I could be wrong, but my guess is that these are trump supporters. They might not join in the threads but they see the number of Trump threads and feel picked on or negativity.
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luckyjune
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 12, 2020 3:31:07 GMT
I had forgotten How good a nineteen page thread feels. Home sweet pea home
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Post by birukitty on Jul 12, 2020 7:33:36 GMT
The bullying part is how things are delivered That's ridiculous, since when is bullying defined as "how something is delivered" The word you may be looking for is rude - but being rude or unpleasant or unkind to someone is not the same as bullying. Nor is saying something that others happen to agree with. That word actually had a definition, yet everyone seems to be tossing into every sentence to define anything that is said that someone may not like. Ah Pjaye, just look in the mirror. You are a bully. Plain and simple. A recent thread about a Pea (can't remember who it was) the other day who posted her happiness about soon getting a St.Bernard puppy had you posting over and over bullying her in nasty remarks. Didn't your mother never teach you the golden rules? If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Treat others as you wish them to treat you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know your excuses. I've heard them all before. You've bullied me in the past. That's why I have you on ignore. I'll bet anything you were a "mean girl" in high school. Haven't grown up much mentally since then, have you? I expect you'll come back at me swinging away with your nasty remarks but I'm keeping you on ignore so I'll just be "I can't hear you" and go on my merry way.
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Post by birukitty on Jul 12, 2020 7:40:31 GMT
For the rest of this thread, yes I have noticed a few, very few thank goodness unkind remarks consistently no matter who is posting or what they are posting about. For me it's been 2 Peas and I've put both on ignore. That ignore button is a God send. It means you don't have to read or listen to that person's opinion at all.
In a group this large we are going to have a few people who are bullies. It's inevitable. Just like we have wonderful compassionate Peas who are amazing and lots in between. I think it's best to call them out on their behavior so we stick up for each other and not let them just get away with it-and I am deeply ashamed of myself that I didn't do that for the Pea who posted about her new St.Bernard puppy. Then we can put those bullies on ignore and literally ignore them. This is my plan from here on out. I hope some of you will join me.
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jul 12, 2020 9:18:23 GMT
noun, plural bul·lies. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people That's the definition of A bully, not bullying. But anyway, "smaller and weaker" are physical characteristics - no sees that in an online forum, so no-one can be bullied as a result of that. No-one is "weak' here - no-one has any power over anyone else, it's a level playing field. So if it's two quarrelsome people having a go at each other - which is most commonly the case here, then it isn't bullying. (by that definition) "Smaller" is a physical characteristic, yes. But "weaker" doesn't have to be. If one person in a message board argument has stronger articulation skills, uses stronger language and has more confidence than the other, that person can come over as intimidating and domineering. You omitted the rest of the definition I quoted: verb (used with object), bul·lied, bul·ly·ing. to act the bully toward; intimidate; domineer. verb (used without object), bul·lied, bul·ly·ing. to be loudly arrogant and overbearing. The words I have made bold are just as relevant to bullying on message boards as they are to bullying IRL. And I stick to my original opinion, that the difference is absolutely in the delivery.
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Post by pjaye on Jul 12, 2020 11:45:56 GMT
Ah Pjaye, just look in the mirror. You are a bully. Plain and simple. A recent thread about a Pea (can't remember who it was) the other day who posted her happiness about soon getting a St.Bernard puppy had you posting over and over bullying her in nasty remarks. Didn't your mother never teach you the golden rules? If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all And you call yourself an animal lover? that's what I hate most - people who claim to have a certain set of morals/values and then when someone clearly breaches them, then are are too chicken shit to stand up and say something, they just sit there quietly and let whatever abuse continue to happen. Did you read that thread?? She got a pitbull without thinking and it ripped apart her other dog...now she's again making a rash decision and get a giant breed with two existing (INTACT) small female dogs. And you are more OK with that than someone telling her she's being irresponsible? My mother taught me some golden rules, and it our house it was to stand up for and speak up for what you believe in, and not stand by silently and watch cruelty. Those rules take some courage, your rule is about cowardice, I know which one I'm happy with. That's why I have you on ignore. You're doing a pretty shit job of "ignoring" me based on how many of my recent posts you seem to have read. You do realize the purpose of that feature is NOT to read what the person on ignore says? Do you think that bothers me? I'm good with people I have no respect for ignoring me. And seeing as you aren't reading this, there will be no need to reply.
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Post by quinlove on Jul 12, 2020 12:09:20 GMT
I think it's time for me to turn off notifications for this thread.... guess my "big girl panties" haven't arrived yet. If you aren't enjoying this thread - then you definitely haven't earned those panties yet. This is the shit we live for. Truer words have never been spoken here. 🤗
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Post by anonaname on Dec 14, 2021 1:30:37 GMT
noun, plural bul·lies. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people That's the definition of A bully, not bullying. But anyway, "smaller and weaker" are physical characteristics - no sees that in an online forum, so no-one can be bullied as a result of that. No-one is "weak' here - no-one has any power over anyone else, it's a level playing field. So if it's two quarrelsome people having a go at each other - which is most commonly the case here, then it isn't bullying. (by that definition) Here's a definition for you: Bullying is an ongoing and deliberate misuse of power in relationships through repeated verbal, physical and/or social behaviour that intends to cause physical, social and/or psychological harm. It can involve an individual or a group misusing their power, or perceived power, over one or more persons who feel unable to stop it from happening.
Bullying can happen in person or online, via various digital platforms and devices and it can be obvious (overt) or hidden (covert). Bullying behaviour is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time (for example, through sharing of digital records). Bullying of any form or for any reason can have immediate, medium and long-term effects on those involved, including bystanders. Single incidents and conflict or fights between equals, whether in person or online, are not defined as bullying. What bullying is not single episodes of social rejection or dislike single episode acts of nastiness or spite random acts of aggression or intimidation mutual arguments, disagreements or fights. These actions can cause great distress. However, they do not fit the definition of bullying and they’re not examples of bullying unless someone is deliberately and repeatedly doing them. www.ncab.org.au/bullying-advice/bullying-for-parents/definition-of-bullying/I know this thread is almost 2 years old but I don't care. It's still relevant because actually bullying on this board persists. This isn't about "big girl panties" either. I've seen the pile-ons. It's a recreational activity for "the peas". You won't change but at least have the integrity to be honest about it.
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Post by muggins on Dec 14, 2021 2:32:47 GMT
No one is forced to participate in this largely unmoderated board. There are thousands of other online forums and groups better suited to those who are unhappy with the conversations here. And, if we’re defining bullying, I would add that repeatedly voting for candidates whose platform seeks to ensure certain members of our society are denied equal rights and access to resources is a form of covert bullying. But, I’m not going to get into a pissing match with anyone today, because I have more important things to do. ETA - pulling up this thread from 2 years ago to chastise those of us who called out Rainbow /rainbow for her blatant hypocrisy is really fucking lame.
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Post by silverlining on Dec 14, 2021 4:33:12 GMT
Why respond now to a post from 18 months ago?
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Post by Skellinton on Dec 14, 2021 4:38:40 GMT
Why respond now to a post from 18 months ago? To stir things up.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 14, 2021 16:32:26 GMT
Why respond now to a post from 18 months ago? Just look at her history. She’s only here for one thing. Typical “old conservative pea” returns with an alter ID
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Post by anonaname on Dec 14, 2021 19:24:05 GMT
Why respond now to a post from 18 months ago? And yet you did respond.
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Post by anonaname on Dec 14, 2021 19:25:01 GMT
Why respond now to a post from 18 months ago? Just look at her history. She’s only here for one thing. Typical “old conservative pea” returns with an alter ID Just a straight up, old-time Republican.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 14, 2021 19:37:19 GMT
Just look at her history. She’s only here for one thing. Typical “old conservative pea” returns with an alter ID Just a straight up, old-time Republican. Exactly.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Dec 14, 2021 19:38:14 GMT
Why respond now to a post from 18 months ago? And yet you did respond. To a post not even a day old. You didn’t do the thing you thought you were doing…
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Post by anonaname on Dec 14, 2021 19:40:57 GMT
To a post not even a day old. You didn’t do the thing you thought you were doing… And here you are responding as well.
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Post by huskergal on Dec 14, 2021 19:45:25 GMT
Not compared to the original NSBR board back at TwoPeas. This one is pretty tame.
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Post by anonaname on Dec 14, 2021 19:57:29 GMT
Not compared to the original NSBR board back at TwoPeas. This one is pretty tame. Only because those who disagree with you have been driven out over the years. I remember when there was a more even balance of both sides.
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Post by MichyM on Dec 14, 2021 20:02:37 GMT
Not compared to the original NSBR board back at TwoPeas. This one is pretty tame. Only because those who disagree with you have been driven out over the years. I remember when there was a more even balance of both sides. Giggle. Nope, not even close. No one has been "driven out." Nice try tho.
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Post by anonaname on Dec 14, 2021 20:04:03 GMT
Only because those who disagree with you have been driven out over the years. I remember when there was a more even balance of both sides. Giggle. Nope, not even close. No one has been "driven out." Nice try tho. You don't have to agree for it to be so. I watched it happen. Your gaslighting isn't going to change truth.
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Post by inkedup on Dec 14, 2021 20:04:35 GMT
To a post not even a day old. You didn’t do the thing you thought you were doing… And here you are responding as well. You do realize this is the message board version of "I know you are, but what am I?", right? 😂😂 The bat phone rang and you felt the need to rush in, dictionary ablaze, to white knight for your old pal, rainbow. She asked for support for her grandson out of one side of her mouth and then used the other to spout rhetoric that's contributed to his mental state. The right's talent for playing victim while victimizing others is impressive.
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