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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 21:05:59 GMT
Ian Bassin...
“Worth remembering that before Trump took office there was zero serious doubt that Congress could subpoena Trump's tax returns. All four courts to consider it so far have agreed.
That there's even a question what SCOTUS will do shows you just how far we've fallen in 4 years.”
The fact that getting to look at trump’s tax returns requires a decision from the Supreme Court should scare us all.
Why should we care about seeing trump’s tax returns? Because he is hiding something. The question is what. trump is a very vain man so it could be something as minor as he is not as wealthy as he would lead you to believe. Or he could be hiding information of past wrongdoings on his part. Something that could leave him vulnerable to blackmail. Say by Russia.
Congress is tasked with oversight. I mean in the course of doing oversight the Republicans held 8 separate hearings on Benghazi. And after the first 2 the 6 additional hearing did not unearth any additional information then what was revealed in the first two hearings. President Obama didn’t stop anyone from appearing before any of the 8 hearings. Hillary Clinton testified in the first hearing and agreed to testify for the 8th hearing. Her only requirement was it be a public hearing. She sat there for 11 hours and answered every question. And some of those questions were pretty stupid.
And now we have an administration that is literally thumbing their nose at Congress when they try and do any oversight. And Republicans in Congress are complicated in this nose thumbing by trump.
Are some of the hearings done under the guise of oversight a royal pain in the keister? Absolutely. But you show up. And if there is nothing to hide then why go to the lengths the trump administration is going to stop the release of information, information that Congress in their roll of oversight has the right to know?
A President shouldn’t throw up the roadblocks that trump is doing when Congress tries to get information. That is not what a transparent country does.
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Post by kajo1982 on Jul 6, 2020 21:55:46 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate?
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Post by katybee on Jul 6, 2020 22:05:01 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? You didn’t hear? They did. In 2008. And when that wasn’t good enough, they released the long form. In 2011. But that (clearly) is still not enough proof for some people. www.slideshare.net/whitehouse/birth-certificatelongformAlso—he hasn’t been president for over 3.5 years now. Just saying... |
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 6, 2020 22:05:38 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? Except that Obama released it to shut people up...did you forget that part? |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 6, 2020 22:07:58 GMT
the fact that our checks and balances have failed is horrific.
However, I think almost anybody else that isn't in his inner circle would uphold out customs, traditions and laws and nit put the shit he has.
At least, I hope...
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 6, 2020 22:10:12 GMT
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 6, 2020 22:37:11 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? Obama released his birth certificate. |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 6, 2020 22:48:27 GMT
just want to reemphasize: racist bastards. We have never required presidential candidates to prove that they are natural-born citizens of the country. We took them at their word. When there was a potential candidate (John McCain) born in questionable circumstances (not that the circumstances were actually “questionable,” but there was question about whether he was qualified to be considered a natural-born citizen), Congress scrambled to pass a law establishing his eligibility. But suddenly when we have a black president, he needs to prove his citizenship? Yes, his father was born overseas. But Donald Trump's mother was foreign-born, and I don’t recall a single solitary person in this country ever demanding he prove his citizenship. And then when the State of Hawaii does produce his birth certificate, at his request, the bigots claim it’s been faked. And here we are almost 10 years later, and a pea can still try to claim he never proved his citizenship. Not because she’s a racist (I assume) but because that was so many people’s takeaway from that mess. The whole thing was so revolting and it was what turned me against Donald Trump to begin with. Unforgivable racist behavior. kajo1982 (apologies, this was not aimed at you in particular, but you’re the one who brought it up) |
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 6, 2020 23:10:54 GMT
just want to reemphasize: racist bastards. We have never required presidential candidates to prove that they are natural-born citizens of the country. We took them at their word. When there was a potential candidate (John McCain) born in questionable circumstances (not that the circumstances were actually “questionable,” but there was question about whether he was qualified to be considered a natural-born citizen), Congress scrambled to pass a law establishing his eligibility. But suddenly when we have a black president, he needs to prove his citizenship? Yes, his father was born overseas. But Donald Trump's mother was foreign-born, and I don’t recall a single solitary person in this country ever demanding he prove his citizenship. And then when the State of Hawaii does produce his birth certificate, at his request, the bigots claim it’s been faked. And here we are almost 10 years later, and a pea can still try to claim he never proved his citizenship. Not because she’s a racist (I assume) but because that was so many people’s takeaway from that mess. The whole thing was so revolting and it was what turned me against Donald Trump to begin with. Unforgivable racist behavior. kajo1982 (apologies, this was not aimed at you in particular, but you’re the one who brought it up) Slow clap!!!!! 👏 👏 👏 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 23:18:04 GMT
To everyone interested in a much deeper peek into the lives of Epstein, Maxwell and even Trump, PLEASE listen to these podcasts. Finally we have a deeper explanation for things. I admit that I was swept away over just knowing about Trump & Epstein being (supposed) rapists, pedophiles, sex traffickers, having sex trafficking rings & "modeling" agencies, drug empires, mafia (here and in Russia, etc.) ties, money launderers, etc. I had no idea as to what they were really doing beyond that. It's bad. There are many, many podcasts by Narativ Live (Zev Shalev, along with LincolnsBible,Eric Garner, and Epstein's former business partner who wound up doing 18 years in jail!!). The link I'm posting is the beginning of their Epstein podcasts from well over a year ago. Very informative: narativ.org/2020/06/07/crime-of-the-century/ |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 6, 2020 23:25:47 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? they did, I saw it. It looks *just* like mine Except for my name, the town & the state, and yet that birth certificate was still unacceptable and ridiculed for not having enough information. No matter that that form of birth certificate was common place in those years, that some of us have used very similar birth certificate as ID all our lives. But since he was a black man his birth certificate that was released is not acceptable. Why not? mine has always been accepted? |
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Post by rodeomom on Jul 6, 2020 23:58:20 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? It makes me both mad and sad that there are still people out there who still believe this. How is it that you don't know that he did release his birth certificate? Which he did not have to do. Not meaning this to be snarky. Were you really young in 2008? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 7, 2020 0:20:10 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? No matter that that form of birth certificate was common place in those years, that some of us have used very similar birth certificate as ID all our lives. But since he was a black man his birth certificate that was released is not acceptable. Why not? mine has always been accepted? My original BC was hand written, it did have a seal. Parents were not listed. It had been folded: therefore a bit damaged. It was good enough for me to get my original DL and Marriage certificate. DS's was typed with no parents listed. When NJ started the 6 points to get/renew a DL, I had to order a new BC online from New York state, rather expensive in my mind! Up until then I never knew my BC was not good enough! |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 7, 2020 2:44:16 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? No matter that that form of birth certificate was common place in those years, that some of us have used very similar birth certificate as ID all our lives. But since he was a black man his birth certificate that was released is not acceptable. Why not? mine has always been accepted? My original BC was hand written, it did have a seal. Parents were not listed. It had been folded: therefore a bit damaged. It was good enough for me to get my original DL and Marriage certificate. DS's was typed with no parents listed. When NJ started the 6 points to get/renew a DL, I had to order a new BC online from New York state, rather expensive in my mind! Up until then I never knew my BC was not good enough! I had my passport by the time they decided my NJ birth certificate wasn’t good enough lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 3:35:34 GMT
Here is another example why there must be transparency in our government and another person of some power that could be blackmail.
Roger Allen..
”Justice Kennedy retired abruptly. Was Deutsche Bank involved? Brett Kavanaugh’s $92,000 country club fees were paid, his $200,000 credit card debt was paid, his $1.2 million mortgage was paid. What were the quid pro quos? Follow the money.“
The Senate Democrats , in writing, asked Kavanaugh who paid those debts all of a sudden. He provided them with a bullshit answer that the Republicans accepted and since the Democrats were in the minority..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 7, 2020 4:47:26 GMT
The Senate Democrats , in writing, asked Kavanaugh who paid those debts all of a sudden. He provided them with a bullshit answer that the Republicans accepted and since the Democrats were in the minority.. So many things, it is hard to remember them all! |
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Post by stittsygirl on Jul 7, 2020 5:30:58 GMT
My husband works as a military contractor. He must keep a top secret security clearance for his job, so our financials (among other things) have to be in order. If it looked like my husband could be easily recruited to work covertly for a foreign government out of financial desperation they’d pull his clearance and he’d lose his job.
It absolutely pisses me off that the president and other members of the government, the judiciary, and his family that work in the White House aren’t required to pass the same level of financial (and moral) scrutiny 😡😡😡 . One of just the hundreds of things that angers me about this administration.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 20:36:29 GMT
ABC News...
“NEW: Deutsche Bank maintained its relationship with disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein despite multiple “suspicious transactions” and “red flags” that could have been related to his alleged sex trafficking operation, New York officials say.”
Deutsche Bank is where trump has or had a lot of loans with. I’m wondering if there were “suspicious transactions” and “red flags” connected with trump’s loans that were ignored. And no, I’m not suggesting it there were that they had anything to do with sex trafficking.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 7, 2020 20:38:16 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? It was released a long time ago. Maybe not on Fox, though. |
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Post by inkedup on Jul 7, 2020 20:42:12 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? The fact that this is an issue tells me which side you support. |
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Post by purplebee on Jul 7, 2020 22:51:12 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? Wow, I can’t believe anyone except trump is still beating this dead horse. |
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Post by casii on Jul 8, 2020 0:24:06 GMT
Not supporting either side but how is it any different than the Democrats and not releasing Obama’s birth certificate? Wow, I can’t believe anyone except trump is still beating this dead horse. Increasingly, Fox News is too liberal for Trump supporters as he pushes OAN or QAnon conspiracy BS. Times are bizarro indeed. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2020 2:30:50 GMT
Deutsche Bank is where trump has or had a lot of loans with. I’m wondering if there were “suspicious transactions” and “red flags” connected with trump’s loans that were ignored. Numerous loans, some he defaulted on and they gave him more again and again! I think there are still some outstanding ones. I also thin gk that there were warnings by Bank employees that someone chose to ignore! |
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