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Post by lisae on Jul 8, 2020 23:17:05 GMT
"The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November Election," Trump said, Why? Once again it is all about him and whether he thinks something will impact his election. A few months ago he dumped all this on the states to decide. Now he wants to determine what states do. And he cares about no one - absolutely no one - but himself.
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Post by Merge on Jul 8, 2020 23:18:33 GMT
No snark at all with this question. If there are, I'd like to know who. By name. What Democrat is purposefully keeping kids out of fulltime school, just out of spite for the president? In other words, destroying children's education and family income just so he is not re-elected? Democrats that know the risk is low with covid-19, and they are objecting not for safety, but solely political gain? Names please. I don't feel the need to share their names, but I know a few friends from my volunteer work with Moms Demand Action who are planning to homeschool this fall. Not tele-school, but full out homeschooling. They're already forming a resource group to pool said resources and shared knowledge.
It's not for political gain. It's purely to protect themselves and others including the teachers/staff who are often in the high risk groups.
This will sound ... well, bad. But I wish there was some way to convince them to do the bare minimum on distance learning in addition to their homeschooling, so they can be counted as enrolled. Schools lose funding for every child that disenrolls. Teachers and staff will lose their jobs as a result. (I mean, assuming the families plan to go back to regular school when this is over.)
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Post by lisae on Jul 8, 2020 23:19:49 GMT
No snark at all with this question. If there are, I'd like to know who. By name. What Democrat is purposefully keeping kids out of fulltime school, just out of spite for the president? In other words, destroying children's education and family income just so he is not re-elected? Democrats that know the risk is low with covid-19, and they are objecting not for safety, but solely political gain? Names please. I don't feel the need to share their names, but I know a few friends from my volunteer work with Moms Demand Action who are planning to homeschool this fall. Not tele-school, but full out homeschooling. They're already forming a resource group to pool said resources and shared knowledge.
It's not for political gain. It's purely to protect themselves and others including the teachers/staff who are often in the high risk groups.
A friend's granddaughter is going to be homeschooled. Her other grandmother is doing it. She homeschooled one of her own children at the same grade and everyone in the family is on board with the idea from what I can tell. The child was sick a lot when she was younger. My friend and I think it is an excellent idea. The family leans Republican. It is what is best for the child and the work schedules of the parents.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 8, 2020 23:41:46 GMT
I don't feel the need to share their names, but I know a few friends from my volunteer work with Moms Demand Action who are planning to homeschool this fall. Not tele-school, but full out homeschooling. They're already forming a resource group to pool said resources and shared knowledge.
It's not for political gain. It's purely to protect themselves and others including the teachers/staff who are often in the high risk groups.
This will sound ... well, bad. But I wish there was some way to convince them to do the bare minimum on distance learning in addition to their homeschooling, so they can be counted as enrolled. Schools lose funding for every child that disenrolls. Teachers and staff will lose their jobs as a result. (I mean, assuming the families plan to go back to regular school when this is over.) Our district did a really lousy job with online learning. My high-schooler had two of their six classes shut down in March without the teacher ever returning to teach at all. My middle-schooler had some teachers who just posted assignments, and some who did a better job, but none of it was great. I hesitate to post this, but I found him sitting in a bathtub, fully clothed and crying, toward the end, because he could not figure out what was going on in one of the classes but had a big project to do, and couldn't get the teacher to return his emails. I don't want to homeschool, at all, but if my district is online-only, there is a good chance I will pull two of my kids and homeschool them. I couldn't get my preschooler to use Zoom -- she'd hide in a corner and refused to talk -- and my about-to-be-freshman has developed major issues around this format (the other three school-aged kids are better with it and I'd enroll them). I absolutely don't want teachers to lose their jobs (and I get that teachers were doing this on the fly in the spring and that many of them were dealing with their own kids, so don't blame them), but the only thing worse than my homeschooling is no schooling *with assignments from a third party.*
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 8, 2020 23:57:49 GMT
I WANT to teach in person. I HATED teaching one. It sucked.
But my classroom is tiny as I am a sped teacher. There is no way to distance. My district will not mandate masks.
The week before we shut down, I had two extremely sick kids in my class. One tested positive for influenza, the other didn't get tested.
I could see the second they adapted into my room they didn't feel were, but both told me their parents wouldn't let them stay home. Both were and t home (on different days) due to fevers when I sent them to the nurses office. I have both kids after lunch which meant they were contaminating the school and their classmates all morning.
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Post by inkedup on Jul 9, 2020 5:27:45 GMT
No snark at all with this question. If there are, I'd like to know who. By name. What Democrat is purposefully keeping kids out of fulltime school, just out of spite for the president? In other words, destroying children's education and family income just so he is not re-elected? Democrats that know the risk is low with covid-19, and they are objecting not for safety, but solely political gain? Names please. I don't feel the need to share their names, but I know a few friends from my volunteer work with Moms Demand Action who are planning to homeschool this fall. Not tele-school, but full out homeschooling. They're already forming a resource group to pool said resources and shared knowledge.
It's not for political gain. It's purely to protect themselves and others including the teachers/staff who are often in the high risk groups.
I homeschooled my son for kindergarten and then we sent him to public school last year for first grade. My husband and I felt that he needed more socialization than we could give him. We decided to enroll in our district's virtual program after receiving information about what returning next year will look like. I will return to homeschooling if we are not happy with the first trimester of virtual learning. I love my son's school, but temperature checks and face masks and the rest are just too much for my 7 year old to worry about. I think those measures are necessary if we are going to open schools, but I'm grateful my family has the privilege of opting out. I have spoken with the parents of a couple of my son's friends and we will be doing something similar to what your friends are doing. Right now, we are pooling resources, skills and spaces to fill the gaps in virtual learning, with many of us open to a homeschool co-op.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Jul 9, 2020 5:39:28 GMT
I have walked two miles, done a 30-minute vinyasa flow and 10 minutes of meditation, and I'm still pissed off about this. I must be doing something wrong. I worked my ass off for 8+ hours today preparing meals for our district’s summer feeding program, which I have been doing since school ended in May. I am more tired now from doing this work than I have been in the 20 years I have been in Food Service. I truly hope trump chokes on the next fast food item he eats. I have never in my life been as enraged at a human being (and such a poor excuse for one) as I have been him. I hate to think of what my blood pressure is right now. I need yoga and meditation! I’d walk, but I’m too tired.... I want to take a few seconds and say thank you. Thank you for caring about kids and caring enough to work your ass off for them. You’re doing much more than many people who are elected to care for people and ensure people (especially kids) have what they need to survive and thrive. I mean it when I say—Thank You.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Jul 9, 2020 5:40:11 GMT
It’s the evil teacher unions. According to Tucker.
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Post by monklady123 on Jul 9, 2020 8:36:53 GMT
I don't know why he thinks schools were ever closed. We kept teaching. We kept feeding kids. We kept doing our FUCKING JOBS in the middle of a global pandemic by scraping resources together as best we could. There aren't enough words to describe the curses I place on him, that ghoul Betsy DeVos, and the rest of his sycophants. For the same reason (he's an idiot....that's the reason) he was so intent on getting churches opened by Easter. Remember when he said "America needs all the prayers it can get"...as if we can't pray outside of a church building. And no understanding that churches are still at work, just not inside a building.
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Post by sueg on Jul 9, 2020 11:41:50 GMT
Trump argued that countries including Germany, Denmark and Norway have reopened schools "with no problems. It's hardly comparing apples with apples to use these as examples. Denmarkhas had a total of under 13000 cases, currently reporting around 10-15 new cases a day. Norway has had under 9000 cases, and a similar number of new cases to Denmark. With numbers so low, then schools can open. Germany is a bit different. We are still recording 300-400 new cases a day, and schools are not fully opened. Students are attending every second week, and only for essential subjects, not the full school day. Just today, I heard of a school here needing to be closed for a few days, due to a case in the school community, so I wouldn't say we've had 'no problems' opening schools.
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Post by pyccku on Jul 9, 2020 13:10:05 GMT
My husband and I both teach in districts in the hardest hit zip code in AZ - which happens to be the state with the highest increase in cases IN THE WORLD.
He has been receiving emails over the summer about the deaths of district workers. There have been several already. This is with school being out. Many workers are working from home, and obviously teachers and students aren't coming in.
I received notification today that the registrar from a sister school - 2 miles away from my school and our rival - died. Again, they are not in session but a few employees are coming in once in a while, staggering work so they don't have too many people on campus at any given time. She was 42.
Our superintendent is admitting that we will not be on campus for "weeks, if not months." My husband attended an online meeting yesterday that was about the safety precautions and cleaning routines being put in place, but about halfway through the meeting, admin admitted that it was probably best to focus on how to teach online effectively, and plan for the entire first quarter to be online.
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Post by Really Red on Jul 9, 2020 14:17:37 GMT
Every word/name I can think of would offend someone. Fucking piece of shit doesn't come close. To borrow a phrase from my grandmother: "He's diarrhea. He doesn't have the fortitude to be a piece of shit." I love your grandmother! What a great phrase!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 9, 2020 19:08:17 GMT
Idiot. He has no legal authority to cut funding to schools. Oh but that has been changed, but he has to be reelected first!!! Kayleigh McEnany: When Trump said he wanted to ‘cut off’ school funding he meant he wants to increase itPublished 20 hours ago on July 8, 2020By Sarah K. Burris During the Wednesday White House press briefing, press secretary Kayleigh McEnany argued that President Donald Trump believes that the reason students must return to school regardless of the risk of COVID-19 killing their families, teachers, and administration, is because children need the lunches in schools. Schools should not follow the Center for Disease Control guidelines because some students depend on those lunches and can’t bring food from home, she told the press. The problem with the claim from the White House, however, is that those are the very programs they tried to cut from the budget. In a 2017 budget proposal, Trump’s plan for SNAP would have abandoned “nearly 1 million low-income students” who had access to free school lunches. The White House wanted to limit the number of children getting the benefits. A government analysis estimated 982,000 students would lose that qualification if the Trump plan passes. “Why would he want to take funding away from schools?” one reporter asked. McEnany explained that Trump wants to “support schools” with more funding, but he won’t implement that unless he gets a second term. It’s a strange claim because not seven hours previously, Trump threatened to take funds away from schools if they followed CDC guidelines and stalled reopening in the fall. When Trump said he wanted to “cut off” funding, he meant he wanted to increase it, she explained.She claimed that Trump wants to “substantially bump up money for education” in the next coronavirus relief package, but she didn’t provide any specifics. She also adds, “this money should go to students,” though it’s unclear how that would work. ** www.rawstory.com/2020/07/kayleigh-mcenany-when-trump-said-he-wanted-to-cut-off-school-funding-he-meant-he-wants-to-increase-it/There is a video with the article! BTW: our school district sent the busses out on their regular routes and delivered BAGS of food to the students and their families!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 9, 2020 19:51:10 GMT
It hasn't been formally announced in my county, but I do know how we are sending the kids back. It's a hybrid approach. Group A and Group B. Group A goes Monday and Tuesday, schools are closed Wednesday, Group B goes Thursday and Friday and schools are cleaned over the weekend. Our school district did such a crappy job of distance learning that they got an earful from the parents. Maryland has done a really good job of locking stuff down early and keeping it locked down. We were one of the first to go into lockdown and my county has been really slow to reopen. It's not ideal but it has to be done. Our school district had a lot of summer classes to offer students who were struggling or behind but they had NOTHING to offer students that take primarily AP courses. Our superintendent said those kids are fine. My son learned absolutely NOTHING since the lockdown. All he did was busy work and the some of the classes he is taking this coming year do not really lend themselves to distance learning. A few do but some like AP Chemistry need to be in person because of labs.
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 9, 2020 20:28:15 GMT
I don't know why he thinks schools were ever closed. We kept teaching. We kept feeding kids. We kept doing our FUCKING JOBS in the middle of a global pandemic by scraping resources together as best we could. There aren't enough words to describe the curses I place on him, that ghoul Betsy DeVos, and the rest of his sycophants. AND WE TURNED A FREIGHTER ON A FREAKING DIME! My god, we were up and running, online, in 48 hours, even though NONE of us had EVER done something like that before! I swear to you, remote teaching was WAY more difficult, time consuming, and stressful than face-to-face teaching. He and his crew of Covidiots can SUCK IT.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 9, 2020 20:31:52 GMT
I don't know why he thinks schools were ever closed. We kept teaching. We kept feeding kids. We kept doing our FUCKING JOBS in the middle of a global pandemic by scraping resources together as best we could. There aren't enough words to describe the curses I place on him, that ghoul Betsy DeVos, and the rest of his sycophants. AND WE TURNED A FREIGHTER ON A FREAKING DIME! My god, we were up and running, online, in 48 hours, even though NONE of us had EVER done something like that before! I swear to you, remote teaching was WAY more difficult, time consuming, and stressful than face-to-face teaching. He and his crew of Covidiots can SUCK IT.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 9, 2020 20:53:32 GMT
Our district has been supplying free lunch and breakfast pickups, no qualifying required, since March. Just in reference to Trump’s sudden concern about school kids going hungry.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 9, 2020 21:10:20 GMT
It hasn't been formally announced in my county, but I do know how we are sending the kids back. It's a hybrid approach. Group A and Group B. Group A goes Monday and Tuesday, schools are closed Wednesday, Group B goes Thursday and Friday and schools are cleaned over the weekend. Our school district did such a crappy job of distance learning that they got an earful from the parents. Maryland has done a really good job of locking stuff down early and keeping it locked down. We were one of the first to go into lockdown and my county has been really slow to reopen. It's not ideal but it has to be done. Our school district had a lot of summer classes to offer students who were struggling or behind but they had NOTHING to offer students that take primarily AP courses. Our superintendent said those kids are fine. My son learned absolutely NOTHING since the lockdown. All he did was busy work and the some of the classes he is taking this coming year do not really lend themselves to distance learning. A few do but some like AP Chemistry need to be in person because of labs. Just out of curiosity, have you heard from your friend at Walter Reed lately? Does she still say COVID is just like the flu and everyone is over-reacting?
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 9, 2020 21:15:10 GMT
Our district has been supplying free lunch and breakfast pickups, no qualifying required, since March. Just in reference to Trump’s sudden concern about school kids going hungry. Mine too.
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Post by pyccku on Jul 9, 2020 22:05:27 GMT
My district just announced that we will be doing full remote learning through the first quarter - so October at the earliest.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 9, 2020 22:11:22 GMT
It hasn't been formally announced in my county, but I do know how we are sending the kids back. It's a hybrid approach. Group A and Group B. Group A goes Monday and Tuesday, schools are closed Wednesday, Group B goes Thursday and Friday and schools are cleaned over the weekend. Our school district did such a crappy job of distance learning that they got an earful from the parents. Maryland has done a really good job of locking stuff down early and keeping it locked down. We were one of the first to go into lockdown and my county has been really slow to reopen. It's not ideal but it has to be done. Our school district had a lot of summer classes to offer students who were struggling or behind but they had NOTHING to offer students that take primarily AP courses. Our superintendent said those kids are fine. My son learned absolutely NOTHING since the lockdown. All he did was busy work and the some of the classes he is taking this coming year do not really lend themselves to distance learning. A few do but some like AP Chemistry need to be in person because of labs. Our state has told us we can’t do this approach. All campuses must be open to all students every day. Because it’s not about school safety, it’s about the economy.
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Post by prapea on Jul 9, 2020 22:30:14 GMT
May be I should start “praying for him” to.....
And seriously, we are now going to say, let’s all just go out and spread the virus because we will do it once school opens anyways?
D-bag and Devos....yes, these two are absolutely the right people I will listen to right now to tell me how to put my kid’s life and his teacher’s life in danger.
Let him cry foul all he wants. What can we as people do to make him hear our voice on this specific situation? Call local senators and governor’s offices? Or did they unhook their phone lines already? Thank
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 9, 2020 22:52:22 GMT
Idiot. He has no legal authority to cut funding to schools. Oh but that has been changed, but he has to be reelected first!!! Kayleigh McEnany: When Trump said he wanted to ‘cut off’ school funding he meant he wants to increase itPublished 20 hours ago on July 8, 2020By Sarah K. Burris During the Wednesday White House press briefing, press secretary Kayleigh McEnany argued that President Donald Trump believes that the reason students must return to school regardless of the risk of COVID-19 killing their families, teachers, and administration, is because children need the lunches in schools. Schools should not follow the Center for Disease Control guidelines because some students depend on those lunches and can’t bring food from home, she told the press. The problem with the claim from the White House, however, is that those are the very programs they tried to cut from the budget. In a 2017 budget proposal, Trump’s plan for SNAP would have abandoned “nearly 1 million low-income students” who had access to free school lunches. The White House wanted to limit the number of children getting the benefits. A government analysis estimated 982,000 students would lose that qualification if the Trump plan passes. “Why would he want to take funding away from schools?” one reporter asked. McEnany explained that Trump wants to “support schools” with more funding, but he won’t implement that unless he gets a second term. It’s a strange claim because not seven hours previously, Trump threatened to take funds away from schools if they followed CDC guidelines and stalled reopening in the fall. When Trump said he wanted to “cut off” funding, he meant he wanted to increase it, she explained.She claimed that Trump wants to “substantially bump up money for education” in the next coronavirus relief package, but she didn’t provide any specifics. She also adds, “this money should go to students,” though it’s unclear how that would work. ** www.rawstory.com/2020/07/kayleigh-mcenany-when-trump-said-he-wanted-to-cut-off-school-funding-he-meant-he-wants-to-increase-it/There is a video with the article! BTW: our school district sent the busses out on their regular routes and delivered BAGS of food to the students and their families! Lol! Only in Trumpland does “cut off” mean “increase.” Since when did Spanky care about children going hungry? Let me just add to the linked article that the plan was to cut broad-based categorical eligibility for SNAP that provides children in low-income families automatic qualification for free or reduced-price school meals. The point of it was to put another roadblock in front of low-income families and the hell with their children who go to public schools. Everybody knows by now that every single time Republican presidents give huge tax breaks to the wealthiest in this country, we have to pay for the decrease in revenue to the treasury via cuts to social welfare. These imbeciles in the WH and his mouthpiece must think we’re equally imbecilic. They can bastardize the English language all they want. People still know how to read.
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