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Post by librarylady on Jul 9, 2020 14:16:50 GMT
If this comes true, USA as we know it is over--that is my prediction. |
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Post by gar on Jul 9, 2020 14:26:36 GMT
If he does win it’s hard to imagine the long term outcome any differently.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 9, 2020 14:31:13 GMT
Then we will be finished as a country.
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 9, 2020 14:45:57 GMT
I’m sorry, but it’s bunk. I don’t know how you can use primary modelling to predict results when Trump was the only Republican candidate in the primaries! So of course he was going to win the Republican primary in New Hampshire, and every Republican primary thereafter. Sigh. (In any case, yes…vote.)
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Post by pyccku on Jul 9, 2020 15:55:52 GMT
Yeah...he won the republican primary with 100% vote, considering he was the only person on the ballot AND many states didn't even hold a republican primary!
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Post by susancinpa on Jul 9, 2020 16:07:44 GMT
What worries me much, much more is the hardcore support I see for him on a daily basis. I am surrounded by it locally and people I know personally constantly posting on facebook.
I am seeing the same political atmosphere locally as four years ago, only the support for him feels even stronger this time.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 9, 2020 16:16:58 GMT
I am not planning on him winning. I just can't. In my life, some of the people who voted for him will not vote for him again, and I don't know anyone who didn't vote for him that would change their vote. I know I am just one little experience, but man, can you screw up over and over and still win? (Please, no one answer that.) I think this was just someone giving their opinion and everyone jumping on it... like normal.
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Post by rodeomom on Jul 9, 2020 16:31:32 GMT
What worries me much, much more is the hardcore support I see for him on a daily basis. I am surrounded by it locally and people I know personally constantly posting on facebook. I am seeing the same political atmosphere locally as four years ago, only the support for him feels even stronger this time. Yes! I think Oklahoma's support for him is as strong as ever. I don't know anyone who voted for trump who is not going to vote for him again. I think it very likely he will win a 2nd term. |
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Post by supersoda on Jul 9, 2020 16:54:32 GMT
I'm very concerned about how much time there is between now and November. Memories are short, people are lazy. Dems might be motivated right now, but will they still be able to bring out the crowds come November? The thing about those trump supporters is that they vote.
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Post by my.unquiet.mind on Jul 9, 2020 16:56:38 GMT
I worry that with all the violence, division and unrest that’s currently inundating our country, we may not even make it to November...and that’s only 4 months away.
I can’t even fathom what would become of us if Trump is re-elected for a 2nd term.
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Post by pinklady on Jul 9, 2020 19:14:04 GMT
Yeah, I’m not convinced he will lose. The American people have proven time and time again just how stupid they really are.
Wasnt Hilary a shoe in until election night?
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jul 9, 2020 19:29:49 GMT
I don't believe he will win and this is why:
He won the electoral college but not the popular vote because so many dems figured Hillary was going to win and so they didn't go and vote. That isn't going to happen again.
There are plenty of Republican's who not only won't vote for Biden they won't vote for Trump either so they don't even count.
There is a lot of money being thrown at Biden by Republican's right now.
The grassroots movements haven't really stalled yet. There is still a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes and as it gets closer, there will be more movement.
There hasn't been a pandemic in the last 6 election cycles and we have never had a president that is so fucking stupid and honestly, people won't forget when we have over 200,000 people dead by November 1. So this guy can claim he has correctly guessed but he has never had to guess when everything has been so up in the air.
I don't know one single republican voter, who voted in 2016 for Trump, that is going to vote for him again. Every one of them has said they are done with him.
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Post by katybee on Jul 9, 2020 19:40:44 GMT
Yeah....I think he’s gonna win. Whether he cheats, or Russia interferes, or democrats just become complacent, I think he will win.  |
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Post by mama2three on Jul 9, 2020 19:47:53 GMT
I’m concerned the the current administration will make it more and more difficult for people to vote and to vote safely in these COVID times , particularly in the more democrat jurisdictions. We saw this already during certain primaries.
If DT is re-elected, the USA is doomed. We’re already more than halfway down that path in <4 years. Should have moved to Canada when that was still an option.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 9, 2020 19:50:58 GMT
This isn't true. The Los Angeles Times poll forecast the Trump win.
I like this type of story because they fuel the fire and remind us not to be complacent. Keep fighting for every vote until November.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 9, 2020 19:51:59 GMT
I’m worried that he will win, too. Russian interference and voter suppression could be really problematic. I do think that anyone who voted against him in 2016 will vote against him again. As long as all of those voters show up as well as republicans who are planning to vote against him, there is hope. I think it will all come down to who turns up and that depends on the pandemic.
eta- He might not have been my first choice, but Biden is a lot more likable than Hillary, I think.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 9, 2020 19:55:37 GMT
He’s wrong.
This is all so unprecedented and so freakin far from anything “predictable” that it’s laughable he thinks he can rely on his previous models. We’re in a global pandemic, people are DYING because of him, we’re in the beginning of an economic crash akin to the Great Depression, and our clown of a president may actually be held accountable in NYC after today’s Supreme Court decision.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Jul 9, 2020 20:12:15 GMT
The thing about those trump supporters is that they vote. I’m concerned the the current administration will make it more and more difficult for people to vote and to vote safely in these COVID times , particularly in the more democrat jurisdictions. We saw this already during certain primaries. Yup and yup. |
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Post by papersilly on Jul 9, 2020 20:25:53 GMT
if i'm not mistaken, this prediction was made BEFORE Covid, BLM protests, Russian bounty killing of soldiers, etc. i think his chances were great before all that happened.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 9, 2020 20:32:30 GMT
Seriously, I just want to throw up.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 9, 2020 20:34:04 GMT
I dont know any diehard, rusted on supporter that has changed their mind about him, though. I never expected them to. He’s desperately doing everything he can to appeal to them, and of course they’re lapping up.
He didn’t just win on the strength of them though, and he knows it. Those are the ones you should be listening to or those who are going to vote this time, not the ones who were never going to vote any other way, anyway. That’s where this election will be won or lost.
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Post by inkedup on Jul 9, 2020 20:39:35 GMT
We were certain Trump would lose last time. There is nothing he won't do to stay in power and there is nothing his followers will not accept.
I fully expect him to win. Because 2020.
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Post by susancinpa on Jul 9, 2020 20:51:19 GMT
if i'm not mistaken, this prediction was made BEFORE Covid, BLM protests, Russian bounty killing of soldiers, etc. i think his chances were great before all that happened. Unfortunately I'm in an area that COVID & BLM are amping up his supporters and fueling open hatred of our Governor and all Democrats. They are blaming our Governor for shutting down the state. Not a peep about the Russian bounty or anything else that should be concerning everyone. The other thing I see here is people stand behind the party. They just see the "R" or "D", not what the party or candidate is doing/stands for or how it has changed. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 9, 2020 20:51:55 GMT
if i'm not mistaken, this prediction was made BEFORE Covid, BLM protests, Russian bounty killing of soldiers, etc. i think his chances were great before all that happened. My point exactly. |
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 9, 2020 21:31:57 GMT
I...just can't.
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Post by Montannie on Jul 9, 2020 22:30:43 GMT
I don't know. With him pushing opening schools, I'm very afraid that kids will start to die, or be very, very sick by November. That's got to make a difference to some.
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Post by prapea on Jul 9, 2020 22:33:16 GMT
I will say it again. I think he will win because all of us who will never vote for him would probably be dead by November anyways. He has made sure he kills us all with how he is handling the pandemic and how all the idiots I see around are.
I will not be surprised if he wins. Stupidity in this country is on the rise.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 9, 2020 22:44:56 GMT
I am expecting him to win. It seems as though most presidents get two terms and I don't think Biden is showing himself to be a strong candidate. However, I know quite a few people that voted for him last time because "anyone but Hillary! 😮" who have stated that they will not vote for him again.
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Post by sasha on Jul 9, 2020 23:28:40 GMT
What worries me much, much more is the hardcore support I see for him on a daily basis. I am surrounded by it locally and people I know personally constantly posting on facebook. I am seeing the same political atmosphere locally as four years ago, only the support for him feels even stronger this time. I know exactly what you mean. There seems to be NOTHING he could do or say that will change their minds. No matter how stupid. No matter how racist. It's scary to see how many are so emboldened by him. |
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Post by inkedup on Jul 9, 2020 23:31:58 GMT
I don't know. With him pushing opening schools, I'm very afraid that kids will start to die, or be very, very sick by November. That's got to make a difference to some. Dead kids don't matter to Trump supporters and other hard core right wingers. See: Sandy Hook. |
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