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Post by PEAcan pie on Jul 10, 2020 20:02:18 GMT
I can't believe we are actually going to have in person school in the fall. Everyone is talking like we don't need to worry about the health of the teachers and staff at these schools. Some must be scared shitless, I know I would be. Me. I am scared shitless. Actually, teachers all over Texas are in an uproar. I am not alone. We just have very little power. I think being an in-person Teacher in a Pandemic is just one step less dangerous than working with Covid patients directly. How the hell are Teachers going to be safe! These kids will not wear masks properly, they WILL get sick. It will be deadly for some Teachers. I have Three kids in three different Schools, I am high risk. Our Family will have so much exposure if I send them. If the US would just get their act together and People would stop partying and exposing themselves to the Virus, maybe we can get back to some normalcy. I am sick of seeing everyone act like it is just the Flu and going about their lives as if it does not exist. I am a terrible home-schooler as I found out this spring. But I feel I have no choice. I just cannot send my kids to a germ factory! The poor Teachers that have no choice is just outrageous. What about a pregnant Teacher? I just cannot wrap my head around this. No one can convince me that we can do this safely. I do not think it is possible.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jul 10, 2020 20:06:18 GMT
Are any other teachers on the NEA Zoom right now? I am. 43 states have failed CDC criteria for reopening. 😲 No surprise there. Do you know if there‘s a list somewhere of passed/failed states? Or were the compliant states mentioned? I looked on the NEA website but couldn’t find it. Thanks.
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 10, 2020 20:13:54 GMT
Hard to understand this. Thankful that I live in a much more socialistic country where this wouldn’t happen. Don’t American teachers carry health or salary insurance that would cover this situation? We get a certain number of sick days each year. I can only speak to where I taught and was the Union President for about 10 years. We carried over days each year and could accumulate up to 225 maximum. Some schools have different rules. Health insurance does NOT provide paid sick time. The unpaid days would happen if you had no sick days to use. And how fair is it for me, with 80 days saved (banking for retirement eventually) having to use ALL my days if I'm forced out multiple times or if I get sick when someone else who has no days because they use them all the time NOT having to use their days? That sucks. I think that there needs to be a special COVID clause or something where if you get sick from school, you don't have to use ANY days.
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 10, 2020 20:17:20 GMT
So if you had a long term disability, and not enough sick days collected, and couldn't teach for a few months, you would not be paid even a percentage of your salary? Even with a doctor's note? Would unemployment benefits kick in? You’d have to have your own long-term disability insurance that you pay for yourself. However our school had a sick bank that you could apply to for additional days. We negotiated a list of requirements in order for those days to be approved. At one point we approve them for someone whose child had a terminal illness and they were out of sick days. Not every place does that We have one too. It's currently got over 400 days in it. The thing is, you have to exhaust ALL of your accrued sick leave before being eligible for it. So... someone who has saved their days can't tap into it even if they contributed until they're ALL used vs. someone who uses ALL their days yearly and don't have any. It's just a shit situation.
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 10, 2020 20:19:59 GMT
Are any other teachers on the NEA Zoom right now? I am. Sounds like we are screwed. Can you fill us in when you get a chance?
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 10, 2020 20:21:38 GMT
I am. 43 states have failed CDC criteria for reopening. 😲 No surprise there. Do you know if there‘s a list somewhere of passed/failed states? Or were the compliant states mentioned? I looked on the NEA website but couldn’t find it. Thanks. i cam send you the link when the zoom is over
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 10, 2020 20:22:34 GMT
There is an emergency sick leave for covid for 80 hours. Don't recall at what pay. This can be used before your regular leave.
I don't have the chart for the 43 states. It should be on the PowerPoint they've used for this. I'll have to search for the link.
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Post by AmandaA on Jul 10, 2020 20:22:38 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 10, 2020 20:24:01 GMT
There is an emergency sick leave for covid for 80 hours. Don't recall at what pay. This can be used before your regular leave. I don't have the chart for the 43 states. It should be on the PowerPoint they've used for this. I'll have to search for the link. FFCRA I think it is 2/3 pay
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 10, 2020 20:26:39 GMT
That sounds right.
I think there is 2/3 pay for possi le exposure maybe full pay for getting it for up to 10 days with a cap of $511 per day.
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Post by purplebee on Jul 10, 2020 20:32:41 GMT
Thinking seriously about retiring this year. I really want to work for another year or two, though I don’t have to, but I will just have to see what it looks like when I go back. Our state just pushed back the opening of school from August 13 to the week of the 24th, and evidently we have had a “healthy” (according to our Supt.) enrollment in our Virtual Academy, with enrollment open until July 17. Our COVID count is still up in AR, and my PCP seemed pretty concerned at my Wellness visit yesterday. Dh is worried about my safety (20+ year lunch lady at Primary School, and I cashier 3x a week), as am I, and is telling me not to go back if I don’t have adequate protection. I don’t think virtual learning will affect our Primary School enrollment very much. A whole lot can change between now and August 24. I feel for everyone in the realm of education, it’s not going to get easier. I am a lunch lady too. Just one year in and I love it. 4 Hours a day and it works around my kids schedule, I love my Boss and co-workers. Tons of time off including summer. It was just perfect for me. Enough income so we can splurge and be very comfortable. Sadly, not even sure I have a job now. Have not heard a thing yet, but I am expecting to be let go. I was the last to be hired. Even if I do have a job, it is NOT safe. The kids coughed on me all the time. I too ran the cash register and cannot tell you how many times I asked the kids to turn their head or not sneeze on me. I remember one incidence and the young man yelled at me that he did, when he clearly did not. I would ring up at least 300 students in one day. Wearing a mask would not be safe enough IMO. Yes, you know exactly what I’m talking about! Sure hope you can continue in your job and be safe. Last year was my 20th and the job has been really good for me, especially when my son was younger. Good luck!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jul 10, 2020 20:47:15 GMT
Do you know if there‘s a list somewhere of passed/failed states? Or were the compliant states mentioned? I looked on the NEA website but couldn’t find it. Thanks. i cam send you the link when the zoom is over Thanks!
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Post by kate on Jul 10, 2020 21:01:07 GMT
Let's not talk about how many hours of work will be involved in pre-recording 6 highly engaging lesson videos each week. My school is not bound by the public schools' rules, so we are scheduled to go back full-time F2F (public schools are going back hybrid). It looks like I will be in a similar situation to Merge - I don't think there will be enough hours in the day to prepare online lessons for those who choose to stay home while I'm also teaching physically at school full-time. I just don't know. I carry the health insurance for me and all my kids, so I will be going to work in the fall, "sí o sí"
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Post by luckyjune on Jul 10, 2020 21:16:40 GMT
Do you know if there‘s a list somewhere of passed/failed states? Or were the compliant states mentioned? I looked on the NEA website but couldn’t find it. Thanks. i cam send you the link when the zoom is over I'd love to see that too, if you don't mind.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 10, 2020 21:35:59 GMT
We get a certain number of sick days each year. I can only speak to where I taught and was the Union President for about 10 years. We carried over days each year and could accumulate up to 225 maximum. Some schools have different rules. Health insurance does NOT provide paid sick time. The unpaid days would happen if you had no sick days to use. And how fair is it for me, with 80 days saved (banking for retirement eventually) having to use ALL my days if I'm forced out multiple times or if I get sick when someone else who has no days because they use them all the time NOT having to use their days? That sucks. I think that there needs to be a special COVID clause or something where if you get sick from school, you don't have to use ANY days. I agree. I hope you have a strong Union.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 10, 2020 21:52:51 GMT
i cam send you the link when the zoom is over I'd love to see that too, if you don't mind. I've been looking and I can't find the map.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 10, 2020 22:44:20 GMT
I'd love to see that too, if you don't mind. I've been looking and I can't find the map. ill look. It looks like they haven't posted the whole webinar year
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 10, 2020 22:47:39 GMT
it is not just Texas, Colorado is on the same path I'd wager that every state with a Republican governor is on this path. All following the directives of dear leader. NC’s governor is a Democrat and I suspect we’re heading in the same direction
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 10, 2020 22:54:27 GMT
Well, I'm not sending my son to school. He won't wear a mask and our dumb ass governor didn't address anything yesterday except masks are mandated. No alternative ways of schooling. No addressing kids with disabilities that cannot wear masks. It's hard to know if he's considered high risk or not because he's non verbal and has a high pain tolerance. He went from having a bad cold to double pneumonia. Not to mention a lot of kids with delays have very poor hygiene habits; mine included.
I mean, I can send him, but most of the day will be spent making him wear his mask. I've also been told I need to be on call to administer my son's seizure meds because they don't have anyone trained for that.They think I have? There is one school nurse for entire school district that covers an are larger than some New England states. I reached out to a principal in our district and she said we'll probably know more in a few weeks. In a few weeks is maybe 1-2 weeks before school starts. Super easy to get an appointment within a couple of weeks to consult a specialist and get a note.
This is insanity. People are going to lose their shit over the fair being canceled, but no regard for students and teachers.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 10, 2020 22:58:46 GMT
NEA is repeating the Zoom on the 17th, by the way.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 10, 2020 23:13:33 GMT
Our district just floated their plan that will go to board discussion. It's a hybrid, approx half the students attending at a time, shorter in-person day, some remote time.
It's not great, but it's not as bad as some. And it leaves an opening for if Illinois slips back into Phase 3, in which we'd just go remote.
There are really no good choices.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 10, 2020 23:16:23 GMT
Our district just floated their plan that will go to board discussion. It's a hybrid, approx half the students attending at a time, shorter in-person day, some remote time. It's not great, but it's not as bad as some. And it leaves an opening for if Illinois slips back into Phase 3, in which we'd just go remote. There are really no good choices. At least you are trying. Definitely no good choices. Better than wear a mask, that's all I got!
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Post by karen on Jul 10, 2020 23:21:37 GMT
My district announced today that students can attend school online or in person. If they are online, they will have the full curriculum and get to participate in extracurricular activities. All pk-12 students will have to wear masks, even though Abbott exempted kids under ten. Parents are in an uproar. Their babies just can’t breathe all that co2 all day. Also, parents are required to do the temperature checks before school, and high school students are going to be separated by plexiglass in the cafeteria. Older students are responsible for cleaning their eating area before and after they eat.
I think a lot of families will be leaving the district in order to join K12 or Connections Academy this year. The teachers who can quit or retire will do so.
I don’t know yet if teachers are just online or in person, or both.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 10, 2020 23:21:57 GMT
I've seen a draft which I can't share publicly, but it's what I was hoping for... trying to make the best of it. Let's just say if there is rotation, it was the rotation I was hoping for.
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Post by deb02871 on Jul 10, 2020 23:22:10 GMT
I guess I am not getting the histrionics that teachers are having about going back to school. There is a whole world of people who are already back to work or never were off work and who work in very close contact jobs with other people. The world keeps revolving. You will find a way to manage just like they have. Absolutely agree with this
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Post by pyccku on Jul 10, 2020 23:23:12 GMT
My superintendent was on msnbc and cbs this morning. We are not going back in person until after fall break, unless it becomes safe to do so before then.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 10, 2020 23:26:01 GMT
My superintendent was on msnbc and cbs this morning. We are not going back in person until after fall break, unless it becomes safe to do so before then. What state?
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 10, 2020 23:29:44 GMT
My superintendent was on msnbc and cbs this morning. We are not going back in person until after fall break, unless it becomes safe to do so before then. Wow! There are sane people in Arizona.
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 10, 2020 23:32:37 GMT
Our district just floated their plan that will go to board discussion. It's a hybrid, approx half the students attending at a time, shorter in-person day, some remote time. It's not great, but it's not as bad as some. And it leaves an opening for if Illinois slips back into Phase 3, in which we'd just go remote. There are really no good choices. This is what most of the districts in my area of Illinois are doing. School day will end early and then teachers have their own lunch and then time to work on remote learning things. Kids are actually only in school two days a week, with all remote on Mondays, and half attending on T and W and the other half on Th and F. I think all "specials" are remote.
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 23:40:17 GMT
My district announced today that students can attend school online or in person. If they are online, they will have the full curriculum and get to participate in extracurricular activities. All pk-12 students will have to wear masks, even though Abbott exempted kids under ten. Parents are in an uproar. Their babies just can’t breathe all that co2 all day. Also, parents are required to do the temperature checks before school, and high school students are going to be separated by plexiglass in the cafeteria. Older students are responsible for cleaning their eating area before and after they eat. I think a lot of families will be leaving the district in order to join K12 or Connections Academy this year. The teachers who can quit or retire will do so. I don’t know yet if teachers are just online or in person, or both. I hope the parents realize that a large loss of funding this year will negatively affect your district for years to come. When good teachers lose their positions and leave, you don’t just hire back experienced teachers of the same caliber. But I guess the point of all this is that most Texans think teachers are of no value.
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