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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 14:11:38 GMT
A couple of weeks ago, our governor forced Texas Medical Center to change its reporting of available ICU beds to look less scary. At the time they were reporting the ICUs as full. You can see the resulting graph in the linked article, which shows 832 beds "available" through conversion of med/surg beds to ICU as needed. The problem is, there aren't doctors and nurses available to staff these beds. Does a bed exist if it isn't staffed?" So we've got folks waiting in emergency rooms who need hospital beds - some need ICU beds - who can't be moved. Are we overwhelmed yet? You wouldn't know it by looking at the chart, but the answer is yes. abc13.com/health/patients-wait-while-med-center-says-100s-of-beds-still-available/6310321/?fbclid=IwAR3oU31G5bAZAh6kg2_psZOaLU2-nYin-fLcRjtnVW7yy7nauMTCE8Mdwz8It's been pointed out that this has been a growing problem here for weeks, and probably contributes to an undercount of covid-related deaths. If your choice is to die on an ER gurney or go die at home, what are you going to do? They go die at home, they're never tested and they don't get counted. Things are worse here than the government is willing to say, but they want to send us back to school in a few weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 14:17:00 GMT
You can't gaslight a pandemic.
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 14:21:00 GMT
You can't gaslight a pandemic. They sure are trying, though.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 10, 2020 14:23:13 GMT
Could have sworn politicians told me that what was right for NY wasn’t right for TX in controlling this pandemic.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 10, 2020 14:26:17 GMT
When are they opening the schools back up?
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 14:32:19 GMT
When are they opening the schools back up? Depends on the district. Mine (urban Houston) is scheduled to go back August 24. Teachers go back August 10. Mask wearing is iffy here despite the mandate, and all the stores and restaurants are open. I don't see this just magically getting better by then.
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 14:33:50 GMT
Could have sworn politicians told me that what was right for NY wasn’t right for TX in controlling this pandemic. And then they try to tell us that what's right for Houston isn't right for the less populated areas, but one of areas hardest hit right now is the Rio Grande Valley - small towns, not a lot of people. They are out of ICU beds and don't have enough staff to care for all the sick.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jul 10, 2020 14:38:13 GMT
DD went to ER in TMC this week and was placed in the ICU the next day. She was put on a non-Covid floor though. Not sure how they allocate the ICU beds between Covid/non-Covid patients.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 10, 2020 14:39:54 GMT
DD went to ER in TMC this week and was placed in the ICU the next day. She was put on a non-Covid floor though. Not sure how they allocate the ICU beds between Covid/non-Covid patients. In our area, they are put on Covid ICU floor until they are tested for Covid. Once they have tested positive or negative, they go to that situation's ICU floor.
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Post by myshelly on Jul 10, 2020 14:39:56 GMT
When are they opening the schools back up? My DH (a Texas teacher) has to report in person August 4.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 14:47:57 GMT
You can't gaslight a pandemic. They sure are trying, though. Gaslighting's all they got in their tool box. And, when you're just dealing w/gullible people, it mostly works. Not when you're dealing w/physics, chemistry and biology - they don't give a flying fuck. Viruses gonna virus.
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 14:51:17 GMT
DD went to ER in TMC this week and was placed in the ICU the next day. She was put on a non-Covid floor though. Not sure how they allocate the ICU beds between Covid/non-Covid patients. It sounds like the hangup is with people needing Covid beds. IDK. I hope your DD is ok!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 14:53:21 GMT
Meanwhile Abbott's GOP cronies can't wait to roast him over his too little, too late actions. His henchmen think he's doing too much, too soon. "A growing number of Texas county Republican parties are censuring Gov. Greg Abbott over his response to the coronavirus pandemic, taking issue with how he has wielded his broad executive power. Censure resolutions, which are formal condemnations of an official's statements or behavior, have been approved in at least six counties. That includes two of the biggest red counties in Texas: Montgomery and Denton, which easily passed a resolution Thursday night. Some Republicans aligned with the grassroots wing of the party have expressed frustration with Abbott in recent weeks as the pandemic has intensified in Texas — and Abbott has continued to assert executive authority to take sweeping actions to contain it. The censure resolutions accuse Abbott of violating core principles of the party such as separation of powers, free enterprise and personal responsibility.A spokesperson for Abbott did not respond to messages seeking comment, though Abbott has generally defended the statewide mask mandate that he issued last week — and that seemed to be a breaking point for some in his party." www.texastribune.org/2020/07/09/greg-abbott-republican-criticism-coronavirus-response/
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 10, 2020 15:45:05 GMT
Could have sworn politicians told me that what was right for NY wasn’t right for TX in controlling this pandemic. And then they try to tell us that what's right for Houston isn't right for the less populated areas, but one of areas hardest hit right now is the Rio Grande Valley - small towns, not a lot of people. They are out of ICU beds and don't have enough staff to care for all the sick. The biggest outbreaks here in WA as of late have been in places in the middle of the state, you know, “what’s right for Seattle isn’t right for the rest of the state.”
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 10, 2020 16:17:24 GMT
I’m so sorry.
Can people sue the government for inaction or failure to protect its citizens from harm? Is that a thing? I feel like the only thing that’s going to get the point across is major legal fees and humongous public outcry. Obviously people dying isn’t doing a damn thing to get them to take this seriously. 😢
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 10, 2020 16:29:06 GMT
Meanwhile Abbott's GOP cronies can't wait to roast him over his too little, too late actions. His henchmen think he's doing too much, too soon. "A growing number of Texas county Republican parties are censuring Gov. Greg Abbott over his response to the coronavirus pandemic, taking issue with how he has wielded his broad executive power. Censure resolutions, which are formal condemnations of an official's statements or behavior, have been approved in at least six counties. That includes two of the biggest red counties in Texas: Montgomery and Denton, which easily passed a resolution Thursday night. Some Republicans aligned with the grassroots wing of the party have expressed frustration with Abbott in recent weeks as the pandemic has intensified in Texas — and Abbott has continued to assert executive authority to take sweeping actions to contain it. The censure resolutions accuse Abbott of violating core principles of the party such as separation of powers, free enterprise and personal responsibility.A spokesperson for Abbott did not respond to messages seeking comment, though Abbott has generally defended the statewide mask mandate that he issued last week — and that seemed to be a breaking point for some in his party." www.texastribune.org/2020/07/09/greg-abbott-republican-criticism-coronavirus-response/I honestly think core principle of “personal responsibility” is a crock as espoused by the Republican Party. They want all of the liberty benefits of it, but none of the actual responsibility.
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Post by supersoda on Jul 10, 2020 17:02:17 GMT
What a nightmare. And when you click on the link there's a red header at the top that says they're closing all Harris county testing sites due to heat. Really? It's Houston in July...of course heat is going to be an issue. Is it poor planning, pandering, trying to cover up numbers? Who the hell knows anymore.
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Post by lisae on Jul 10, 2020 17:07:02 GMT
It's frightening to watch the news about Houston and so many other areas. Our hospitalizations are on the rise. It isn't a sharp rise yet, just the same continuous slight incline since phase 2 went into effect the 2nd week in May. They have now doubled in those 2 months from around 500 or so to just over 1000 hospitalizations statewide. Our DHHS graph shows beds in use, then those staffed and available and then the beds that don't have staff.
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Post by wellway on Jul 10, 2020 17:19:22 GMT
I'm so sorry MergeOne measure that can't be hidden (well, I assume it can't) is the extra deaths over the average number of deaths at this time of year.
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2020 17:27:53 GMT
Meanwhile Abbott's GOP cronies can't wait to roast him over his too little, too late actions. His henchmen think he's doing too much, too soon. "A growing number of Texas county Republican parties are censuring Gov. Greg Abbott over his response to the coronavirus pandemic, taking issue with how he has wielded his broad executive power. Censure resolutions, which are formal condemnations of an official's statements or behavior, have been approved in at least six counties. That includes two of the biggest red counties in Texas: Montgomery and Denton, which easily passed a resolution Thursday night. Some Republicans aligned with the grassroots wing of the party have expressed frustration with Abbott in recent weeks as the pandemic has intensified in Texas — and Abbott has continued to assert executive authority to take sweeping actions to contain it. The censure resolutions accuse Abbott of violating core principles of the party such as separation of powers, free enterprise and personal responsibility.A spokesperson for Abbott did not respond to messages seeking comment, though Abbott has generally defended the statewide mask mandate that he issued last week — and that seemed to be a breaking point for some in his party." www.texastribune.org/2020/07/09/greg-abbott-republican-criticism-coronavirus-response/We have to watch this carefully - there is a group called Empower Texans that is absolute far-right, worse than Abbott, and they are leading the attack on him from the right. If things go very wrong in 2022, we could end up with a governor that is even worse. Like Dan Patrick, our LG. He's worse! And he's fully backed by Empower Texans. So are folks like Louie Gohmert and Dan Crenshaw.
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Post by MaryMary on Jul 10, 2020 17:40:17 GMT
And then they try to tell us that what's right for Houston isn't right for the less populated areas, but one of areas hardest hit right now is the Rio Grande Valley - small towns, not a lot of people. They are out of ICU beds and don't have enough staff to care for all the sick. The biggest outbreaks here in WA as of late have been in places in the middle of the state, you know, “what’s right for Seattle isn’t right for the rest of the state.” Freakin’ Yakima. It’s okay, though. The coronavirus isn’t real in Yakima. Just a liberal conspiracy to keep Trump from getting re-elected, no big deal.
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Post by epeanymous on Jul 10, 2020 17:45:38 GMT
The biggest outbreaks here in WA as of late have been in places in the middle of the state, you know, “what’s right for Seattle isn’t right for the rest of the state.” Freakin’ Yakima. It’s okay, though. The coronavirus isn’t real in Yakima. Just a liberal conspiracy to keep Trump from getting re-elected, no big deal. I have also hear the racist “it’s THOSE PEOPLE” take on it, so there is that.
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Post by MaryMary on Jul 10, 2020 17:48:17 GMT
Yeah, it’s hitting Latinos at a disproportionate rate, so white Yakima isn’t really fussed about it.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 10, 2020 18:15:54 GMT
The biggest outbreaks here in WA as of late have been in places in the middle of the state, you know, “what’s right for Seattle isn’t right for the rest of the state.” Freakin’ Yakima. It’s okay, though. The coronavirus isn’t real in Yakima. Just a liberal conspiracy to keep Trump from getting re-elected, no big deal. This thinking BLOWS my mind. Like really? Every country in the entire world is conspiring against Trump getting re-elected? Even Russia? No way would they all willingly kill their citizens and tank their own economies just so Donald Trump won’t get elected in America? Please!!!!
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Post by AmandaA on Jul 10, 2020 18:40:10 GMT
What a nightmare. And when you click on the link there's a red header at the top that says they're closing all Harris county testing sites due to heat. Really? It's Houston in July...of course heat is going to be an issue. Is it poor planning, pandering, trying to cover up numbers? Who the hell knows anymore. I can’t speak to the situation in Texas. But I know that in “much cooler” Indiana the mobile test sites are getting shut down due to heat as well. It is the ones being set up in tents in parking lots where there is no HVAC. The head of the dept of health addressed the “problem” this week and explained there were strict OSHA guidelines to protect the health care workers (under layers of PPE) in those settings and once the temp reached a certain level they had to shut down for the day. I am guessing the same problems exist across the country right now.
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Post by gypsymama on Jul 10, 2020 18:40:35 GMT
Meanwhile Abbott's GOP cronies can't wait to roast him over his too little, too late actions. His henchmen think he's doing too much, too soon. "A growing number of Texas county Republican parties are censuring Gov. Greg Abbott over his response to the coronavirus pandemic, taking issue with how he has wielded his broad executive power. Censure resolutions, which are formal condemnations of an official's statements or behavior, have been approved in at least six counties. That includes two of the biggest red counties in Texas: Montgomery and Denton, which easily passed a resolution Thursday night. Some Republicans aligned with the grassroots wing of the party have expressed frustration with Abbott in recent weeks as the pandemic has intensified in Texas — and Abbott has continued to assert executive authority to take sweeping actions to contain it. The censure resolutions accuse Abbott of violating core principles of the party such as separation of powers, free enterprise and personal responsibility.A spokesperson for Abbott did not respond to messages seeking comment, though Abbott has generally defended the statewide mask mandate that he issued last week — and that seemed to be a breaking point for some in his party." www.texastribune.org/2020/07/09/greg-abbott-republican-criticism-coronavirus-response/We have to watch this carefully - there is a group called Empower Texans that is absolute far-right, worse than Abbott, and they are leading the attack on him from the right. If things go very wrong in 2022, we could end up with a governor that is even worse. Like Dan Patrick, our LG. He's worse! And he's fully backed by Empower Texans. So are folks like Louie Gohmert and Dan Crenshaw. I'm from central texas and i know that my friends and family, classmates, etc... would vote Dan Crenshaw into office in a heartbeat, they LOVE him!
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Post by AmandaA on Jul 10, 2020 18:42:38 GMT
Meanwhile Abbott's GOP cronies can't wait to roast him over his too little, too late actions. His henchmen think he's doing too much, too soon. "A growing number of Texas county Republican parties are censuring Gov. Greg Abbott over his response to the coronavirus pandemic, taking issue with how he has wielded his broad executive power. Censure resolutions, which are formal condemnations of an official's statements or behavior, have been approved in at least six counties. That includes two of the biggest red counties in Texas: Montgomery and Denton, which easily passed a resolution Thursday night. Some Republicans aligned with the grassroots wing of the party have expressed frustration with Abbott in recent weeks as the pandemic has intensified in Texas — and Abbott has continued to assert executive authority to take sweeping actions to contain it. The censure resolutions accuse Abbott of violating core principles of the party such as separation of powers, free enterprise and personal responsibility.A spokesperson for Abbott did not respond to messages seeking comment, though Abbott has generally defended the statewide mask mandate that he issued last week — and that seemed to be a breaking point for some in his party." www.texastribune.org/2020/07/09/greg-abbott-republican-criticism-coronavirus-response/I honestly think core principle of “personal responsibility” is a crock as espoused by the Republican Party. They want all of the liberty benefits of it, but none of the actual responsibility. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 A-freaking-men
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Post by SweetieBugs on Jul 10, 2020 19:02:18 GMT
DD went to ER in TMC this week and was placed in the ICU the next day. She was put on a non-Covid floor though. Not sure how they allocate the ICU beds between Covid/non-Covid patients. I hope your DD is okay. Being placed in ICU is serious 😔
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jul 10, 2020 19:09:21 GMT
This is beyond disturbing. I hope somehow things start to turn around snd there are less cases. Is this making the news or is it all being covered up. I’m hoping it’s at least making local news.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 10, 2020 19:36:45 GMT
Freakin’ Yakima. It’s okay, though. The coronavirus isn’t real in Yakima. Just a liberal conspiracy to keep Trump from getting re-elected, no big deal. This thinking BLOWS my mind. Like really? Every country in the entire world is conspiring against Trump getting re-elected? Even Russia? No way would they all willingly kill their citizens and tank their own economies just so Donald Trump won’t get elected in America? Please!!!! These people are not deep thinkers.
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