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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 6:02:59 GMT
Those videos are BS. They're doctored to manipulate people into not voting for Biden. Trump is dangerous. I don't care how much you dislike Biden; he's the only good choice for president. Trump is a wannabe dictator. Read Teri Kanefield. He’s pretty creepy, he’s been accused of sexual misdeeds, and he says racist things. People have good reasons to not like him and good reasons to be disgusted with and disappointed in Democrats. I am not saying anything positive about Trump whatsoever. I just think that if Biden loses (which I think is entirely possible), the Dems have no one but themselves to blame. I started my Sunday with a rant about lying and I guess I’m ending my Sunday with a rant about stupidity. When Bill Clinton first ran for president I didn’t vote for him because of all the affairs he had. I voted for Bush Sr, first time I voted for a Republican for President. But that wasn’t too bad because Bush Sr was a decent man who cared about the country. But Clinton won and in the end he turned out to be a somewhat decent president despite his shortcomings. But that was then and this is now where the current occupant of the White House is a lying incompetent vindictive stupid racist insecure individual who cares only for himself and how much money he can get while constantly giving his middle finger to the rule of law. And let’s not forget he’s deliberately ignoring the threat by Russia to this country. He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. None at all. Biden was not my first choice, nor my second or third choice. But compared to trump, Biden is man who will chose country over personal gain every time. And he’s not afraid of “smart people” like the current idiot of the White House is. You are correct that Biden might lose. But it won’t be the Democrats fault who made Biden the nominee, no, it will be the stupid voters who couldn’t or refuse to grasp just how destructive trump is to this country and because of that simple fact there was only one choice and that was Biden and they blew it. Just like it was the stupid voters who, out of 16 Republicans running for President in 2016, chose trump as their nominee and those who voted for him in the general elections and those who chose not to vote for Hillary. And the American People have been paying a price for that bit of stupidity ever since. All you have to do is look at how utterly incompetent trump’s handling of COVID-19 has been to get an inkling of the high price we’ve paid for that bit of stupidity. You have to wonder how many thousands of the deaths from the virus might have been prevented if we had a real leader in the White House instead of the current idiot. Rant over.
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 13, 2020 7:38:29 GMT
He’s pretty creepy, he’s been accused of sexual misdeeds, and he says racist things. By all means, let's just forget about 'bunker boy's' guilt on these issues. And the lying, manipulation, misuse of funds, stirring up violence, lack of governing, and outright treason.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 13, 2020 10:07:05 GMT
You are completely right that the only vote is for Biden, if you disagree with any pat of the current administration. (and if you do, then there is no hope for you). Do you recall that only 538 people in Florida were responsible for Al Gore losing to Bush. If Gore had won, climate change would be a world wide initiative, we wouldn't have invaded Iraq, Roberts and Alito would not be on the Supreme Court, and Citizens United wold have been decided another way. Oh, I I doubt we would have had the economic meltdown that occurred in 2008, since Dem administrations tend to bring down the national debt. I saw this somewhere and it is the best analogy for voting. Voting isn't marriage, it's public transport. You are not waiting for the one that is absolutely perfect. You are getting on the bus. And if there isn't one going exactly to your destination, you don't stay home and sulk- you take the one going closest to where you want to be. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I have no patience for people who are worried about their “integrity” right now. We are on the Titanic and have hit the iceberg. It’s all hands on deck to look at the big picture and realize that Trump is dangerous. He cannot win again.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 13, 2020 10:13:42 GMT
Uggghhhhh I just watched another one of those Biden creepily touching young girls videos on FB. I’m so disgusted with the Democrats. The most important thing to come out of the next term will probably be Supreme Court appointments, so I’ll probably have to base my vote on that. Very few people had Biden as their first choice. But voters have realized that he is the only person who might be able to beat Trump.THAT is why he won the primaries. I was hoping for a different candidate myself. The thing about Biden is that he will read his briefings and he will have competent people in place. No Jared Kushners or Ivankas in sight! And as you correctly pointed out, the SC. I would argue that the SC and the Senate as as important, if not more important, than the Presidency.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 13, 2020 10:18:57 GMT
You can’t even spell minorities. Remember how sad you feel when peas are mean to you? This is why it happens. Exactly. You are digging a familiar hole, and now would be a good time to stop.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 13, 2020 10:54:55 GMT
For anyone who thinks they have the luxury to sit it out, another four years of him becomes your legacy too. If he continues on with his poor management of Covid, millions can potentially die and the disease will come close to home if not inside. No one will be immune from the economic repercussions, either. We have peas on this board that have indicated they’d rather sit out than vote for Biden to save our democracy or vote for trump their party. It’s gross to be so entitled to take the privilege of voting so negligently.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 13, 2020 12:41:18 GMT
Uggghhhhh I just watched another one of those Biden creepily touching young girls videos on FB. I’m so disgusted with the Democrats. The most important thing to come out of the next term will probably be Supreme Court appointments, so I’ll probably have to base my vote on that. Very few people had Biden as their first choice. But voters have realized that he is the only person who might be able to beat Trump.THAT is why he won the primaries. I was hoping for a different candidate myself. The thing about Biden is that he will read his briefings and he will have competent people in place. No Jared Kushners or Ivankas in sight! And as you correctly pointed out, the SC. I would argue that the SC and the Senate as as important, if not more important, than the Presidency. Exactly. The primaries were complicated by the fact that trump is so horrible and people were trying to guess which candidate would be most likely to beat him. Between Trump and Bernie, it seemed to risky to vote for who people really wanted.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 13, 2020 13:30:31 GMT
Very few people had Biden as their first choice. But voters have realized that he is the only person who might be able to beat Trump.THAT is why he won the primaries. I was hoping for a different candidate myself. The thing about Biden is that he will read his briefings and he will have competent people in place. No Jared Kushners or Ivankas in sight! And as you correctly pointed out, the SC. I would argue that the SC and the Senate as as important, if not more important, than the Presidency. Exactly. The primaries were complicated by the fact that trump is so horrible and people were trying to guess which candidate would be most likely to beat him. Between Trump and Bernie, it seemed to risky to vote for who people really wanted. Yep, and I applaud Dems for reading the tea leaves and making the pragmatic choice. This sort of unity may well never happen again. Then again, it’s 2020, so maybe not so surprising.
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 13, 2020 13:42:36 GMT
Yes apparently it’s either Dr Fauci or Chuck Whoolery. I just can’t even anymore.
Edited typo because apparently I can’t even spell anymore either.
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Post by peasquared on Jul 13, 2020 15:10:38 GMT
I think Biden will be perfect for a one term presidency. He knows what's going on in Washington, no training needed. He can quickly go in, right the ship, rebuild relationships, and get us in a neutral position. Then, in 2024 we can move forward on stable ground. (Hopefully! I worry Trump may have destroyed things beyond repair.)
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 13, 2020 16:29:01 GMT
Yes apparently it’s either Dr Fauci or Chuck Whoolery. I just can’t even anymore. Edited typo because apparently I can’t even spell anymore either. That's ok, you know 'someone' will point out any misspellings because that is the true issue here!
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 13, 2020 16:48:09 GMT
It's always either or. That's the nature of the two party system. Doesn't matter how many are running, it's always Republicans vs Democrats. A vote for anything outside of that is a vote for one of the big two. We aren't voting for Biden...we're voting for his vice president and we don't know who that is yet.
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Post by sam9 on Jul 13, 2020 16:55:32 GMT
hopefully he will be in jail then I think he is going to be very busy the next 4 years trying to explain things in court. I also don't think that the Republicans already holding office want him back. They will spend the next four years trying to build their party back up and pick someone who doesn't look anything like Trump. Unless it is Ivanka or JR. Why is Trump the Republican candidate in 2020? Couldn't the party have done something for this year if they don't/didn't want him back? I am Canadian.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 13, 2020 16:56:43 GMT
I think he is going to be very busy the next 4 years trying to explain things in court. I also don't think that the Republicans already holding office want him back. They will spend the next four years trying to build their party back up and pick someone who doesn't look anything like Trump. Unless it is Ivanka or JR. Why is Trump the Republican candidate in 2020? Couldn't the party have done something for this year if they don't/didn't want him back? I am Canadian. yeah, but they are scared of him or support his dumb ass
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 13, 2020 17:01:21 GMT
It's always either or. That's the nature of the two party system. Doesn't matter how many are running, it's always Republicans vs Democrats. A vote for anything outside of that is a vote for one of the big two. We aren't voting for Biden...we're voting for his vice president and we don't know who that is yet.
yes and no. In this case, really I'd vote for Ted Cruz if it was him vs trump. In past, though, if you voted 3rd party or sat out, it wasn't as dire. Yes a president is chosen, but all past presidents of my lifetime had the country's interests at heart, even if their values and ideals differed from mine. Trump is all about him and lies more than anybody I've ever come across. Everything he does is either undoing what Obama did or eliminating any barrier to his wealth and the wealth of the assholes around him no matter the cost
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 13, 2020 17:16:58 GMT
I think he is going to be very busy the next 4 years trying to explain things in court. I also don't think that the Republicans already holding office want him back. They will spend the next four years trying to build their party back up and pick someone who doesn't look anything like Trump. Unless it is Ivanka or JR. Why is Trump the Republican candidate in 2020? Couldn't the party have done something for this year if they don't/didn't want him back? I am Canadian. Because all those GOP apologists who insist they don’t really support Trump are actually just fine with what he’s doing.
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Post by peano on Jul 13, 2020 17:25:40 GMT
Well the videos of creepy racist trump far outweigh anything Biden has ever done. To me. I haven’t heard anything racist from Biden? And heard he’s well liked by minority’s. ? You can’t even spell minorities. And there is a stone where your heart should be. I feel so very sorry for your children.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 13, 2020 17:54:15 GMT
It's always either or. That's the nature of the two party system. Doesn't matter how many are running, it's always Republicans vs Democrats. A vote for anything outside of that is a vote for one of the big two. We aren't voting for Biden...we're voting for his vice president and we don't know who that is yet.
People think Biden has dementia because Trump has been saying that, over and over again. If it were a different candidate, Trump would have found some other perceived weak spot and would have been driving that point home, over and over again, and 20% of Democrats would believe that nonsense instead of this nonsense. We need to beat Trump and beat him hard so there’s no doubt about it, and not get sidetracked by silliness like this. Anyone who isn’t predisposed to think he has dementia can easily tell he doesn’t just by listening to him speak. This is just a distraction, along the same lines as “Hillary lacks stamina” and “Hillary can’t stand up on her own.”
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Post by pierogi on Jul 13, 2020 18:01:57 GMT
The DNC didn't choose Biden, the voters did. I was a Warren supporter, and Biden was my fifth choice. That said, there is no comparison between him and Trump. None. Biden will obey the law. He won't be in Putin or China's pocket and hire criminals to do his dirty work, then pardon them.
Biden is handsy with people. It's not sexual, there are tons of photos of him doing the same to men. The whole Tara Reade thing has been thoroughly debunked. Trump, on the other hand, has openly admitted to assaulting women, and has been credibly accused of rape at least twice. One of his alleged victims was thirteen years old, a little girl who had been sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.
Biden is a gaffe machine. I don't care about that at this point. His brain could fall out of his head and bounce twice on the sidewalk and he'd still be a better president than Trump. He'll probably tell those stories about Cornpop being a bad dude and call Putin a lying dog-faced pony soldier. Actually, I'd be pleased at that last one. He won't kiss up to dictators and let them walk all over him. Biden is smart enough to know what he doesn't know, and will appoint solid, qualified people who are experts at what they do to their jobs. If elected, I expect him to serve one term and be a placeholder for the next president. He will rejoin the WHO, the Paris Climate Accords and rebuild alliances with our allies, who Trump has mistreated egregiously.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 13, 2020 18:05:14 GMT
The DNC didn't choose Biden, the voters did. I was a Warren supporter, and Biden was my fifth choice. That said, there is no comparison between him and Trump. None. Biden will obey the law. He won't be in Putin or China's pocket and hire criminals to do his dirty work, then pardon them. Biden is handsy with people. It's not sexual, there are tons of photos of him doing the same to men. The whole Tara Reade thing has been thoroughly debunked. Trump, on the other hand, has openly admitted to assaulting women, and has been credibly accused of rape at least twice. One of his alleged victims was thirteen years old, a little girl who had been sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. Biden is a gaffe machine. I don't care about that at this point. His brain could fall out of his head and bounce twice on the sidewalk and he'd still be a better president than Trump. He'll probably tell those stories about Cornpop being a bad dude and call Putin a lying dog-faced pony soldier. Actually, I'd be pleased at that last one. He won't kiss up to dictators and let them walk all over him. Biden is smart enough to know what he doesn't know, and will appoint solid, qualified people who are experts at what they do to their jobs. If elected, I expect him to serve one term and be a placeholder for a next president. He will rejoin the WHO, the Paris Climate Accords and rebuild alliances with our allies, who Trump has mistreated egregiously. I wish I could like this a dozen more times.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 13, 2020 18:07:18 GMT
The DNC didn't choose Biden, the voters did. I was a Warren supporter, and Biden was my fifth choice. That said, there is no comparison between him and Trump. None. Biden will obey the law. He won't be in Putin or China's pocket and hire criminals to do his dirty work, then pardon them. Biden is handsy with people. It's not sexual, there are tons of photos of him doing the same to men. The whole Tara Reade thing has been thoroughly debunked. Trump, on the other hand, has openly admitted to assaulting women, and has been credibly accused of rape at least twice. One of his alleged victims was thirteen years old, a little girl who had been sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. Biden is a gaffe machine. I don't care about that at this point. His brain could fall out of his head and bounce twice on the sidewalk and he'd still be a better president than Trump. He'll probably tell those stories about Cornpop being a bad dude and call Putin a lying dog-faced pony soldier. Actually, I'd be pleased at that last one. He won't kiss up to dictators and let them walk all over him. Biden is smart enough to know what he doesn't know, and will appoint solid, qualified people who are experts at what they do to their jobs. If elected, I expect him to serve one term and be a placeholder for a next president. He will rejoin the WHO, the Paris Climate Accords and rebuild alliances with our allies, who Trump has mistreated egregiously. yes!!! 1000 times YES!
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 13, 2020 18:08:13 GMT
Why is Trump the Republican candidate in 2020? Couldn't the party have done something for this year if they don't/didn't want him back? I am Canadian. yeah, but they are scared of him or support his dumb ass I think it is because the Republican senators are afraid of him and his base. I just cannot believe that these senators (for the most part) support his erratic behavior.
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Post by rodeomom on Jul 13, 2020 18:14:42 GMT
The DNC didn't choose Biden, the voters did. I was a Warren supporter, and Biden was my fifth choice. That said, there is no comparison between him and Trump. None. Biden will obey the law. He won't be in Putin or China's pocket and hire criminals to do his dirty work, then pardon them. Biden is handsy with people. It's not sexual, there are tons of photos of him doing the same to men. The whole Tara Reade thing has been thoroughly debunked. Trump, on the other hand, has openly admitted to assaulting women, and has been credibly accused of rape at least twice. One of his alleged victims was thirteen years old, a little girl who had been sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. Biden is a gaffe machine. I don't care about that at this point. His brain could fall out of his head and bounce twice on the sidewalk and he'd still be a better president than Trump. He'll probably tell those stories about Cornpop being a bad dude and call Putin a lying dog-faced pony soldier. Actually, I'd be pleased at that last one. He won't kiss up to dictators and let them walk all over him. Biden is smart enough to know what he doesn't know, and will appoint solid, qualified people who are experts at what they do to their jobs. If elected, I expect him to serve one term and be a placeholder for a next president. He will rejoin the WHO, the Paris Climate Accords and rebuild alliances with our allies, who Trump has mistreated egregiously. This really is all there is to it!!!! If you want our country to survive you must vote and vote Biden.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 13, 2020 18:18:17 GMT
It's always either or. That's the nature of the two party system. Doesn't matter how many are running, it's always Republicans vs Democrats. A vote for anything outside of that is a vote for one of the big two. We aren't voting for Biden...we're voting for his vice president and we don't know who that is yet.
You're actually voting for him PLUS the wise cabinet members he will appoint and trust, PLUS any supreme court justices he may have opportunity to nominate. Please remember that unlike the current office occupant, Biden does listen. It's simplistic to boil it down to the VP choice.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 13, 2020 20:08:46 GMT
It's always either or. That's the nature of the two party system. Doesn't matter how many are running, it's always Republicans vs Democrats. A vote for anything outside of that is a vote for one of the big two. We aren't voting for Biden...we're voting for his vice president and we don't know who that is yet.
The dementia thing is a moot point. I want to know how many people think Trump has dementia. 🤣. They cancel each other out on that point. Both are too old to be president, in my opinion. Both very well may have dementia (for the record I don’t believe Biden has dementia). It doesn’t matter.
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Post by artgirl1 on Jul 13, 2020 20:28:36 GMT
Please remember that unlike the current office occupant, Biden does listen. It's simplistic to boil it down to the VP choice. Not only does he listen, and take advice from wiser, more experience advisors, he also operates on the will of the people. Unlike, Trump, who only rules from executive Order, (aka what I want), Biden would take advice, look at the collective benefits for most of the citizens, and decide accordingly. It may not be his choice, but he would take into the account of the will of the people. That is what Presidents' are suppose to do. Trump only operates on the limited information he gets from talk shows, then decides "my way or the highway'. If you reflect on past Presidential decisions, they have all made their decisions on the greater good, or the more beneficial actions for the most citizens. And then there is 'BunkerBoy' who only decides on what most benefits him and his swamp.
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Post by Peal on Jul 13, 2020 20:41:35 GMT
I know that this isn't really relevant, because we're talking about Trump here, but is that legal? You can be president for two terms so if he loses this time he could run again. But think how old he would be. As old as Biden is now. I have an 18 yo first time voter this year. He was saying how disappointed he was at having to chose between two old, white men with dementia (I know, that's debatable, but, it's how he sees it) for president. So I told him, not to vote for president, vote for the vice president and the administration that will be in office. And he said, Well, I'm not a fan of Pence. I think he will come around and do what's best for the country. Even if he hates to do it. He absolutely won't vote for Trump, but I think he is considering not voting at all. He's too young to be this disillusioned with his country.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 13, 2020 20:50:37 GMT
Biden is a gaffe machine, as others have noted. He also stutters, which frequently makes his speech sound halting. I do not believe for a minute that he has dementia. Look at the people he is listening to. Hint: they are top notch. Why is it that Republican intellectuals have abandoned the GOP ( including William F. Buckley’s son) and plan to vote for Biden? Conservative intellectuals are horrified at this Presidency, for good reason.
What is left in the GOP are people who despise expertise and experience, or-in the case of Republican Senators-are terrified of Trump.
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Post by megop on Jul 13, 2020 20:54:37 GMT
While I disagree with the notion that third party votes are "lost" votes because I believe in the voting process of representation of my voice/beliefs, this year, there are no viable third party candidates for me to even consider. And yes, Trump's management and crazy town handling of COVID sealed the deal with this Republican to hold her nose and vote him out. Of course, I didn't vote for him in the first place because I knew he would lead based on all the wrong reasons/methods he was used to in his prior corp world.
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Post by Really Red on Jul 13, 2020 21:06:04 GMT
The DNC didn't choose Biden, the voters did. I was a Warren supporter, and Biden was my fifth choice. That said, there is no comparison between him and Trump. None. Biden will obey the law. He won't be in Putin or China's pocket and hire criminals to do his dirty work, then pardon them. Biden is handsy with people. It's not sexual, there are tons of photos of him doing the same to men. The whole Tara Reade thing has been thoroughly debunked. Trump, on the other hand, has openly admitted to assaulting women, and has been credibly accused of rape at least twice. One of his alleged victims was thirteen years old, a little girl who had been sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. Biden is a gaffe machine. I don't care about that at this point. His brain could fall out of his head and bounce twice on the sidewalk and he'd still be a better president than Trump. He'll probably tell those stories about Cornpop being a bad dude and call Putin a lying dog-faced pony soldier. Actually, I'd be pleased at that last one. He won't kiss up to dictators and let them walk all over him. Biden is smart enough to know what he doesn't know, and will appoint solid, qualified people who are experts at what they do to their jobs. If elected, I expect him to serve one term and be a placeholder for a next president. He will rejoin the WHO, the Paris Climate Accords and rebuild alliances with our allies, who Trump has mistreated egregiously. This is great. Biden was my 23rd choice and only Tulsi Gabbard was lower. That said, I agree with you pierogi. Biden will get in there and reverse Trump's unilateral turnovers of climate issues, he'll put right what Trump as put wrong and he'll put us back in good graces with the rest of the world. I wish there were other things he would do, but I know he'll do those things and I know he'll put good people in cabinet positions - not idiots and thieves like Mnuchin and Devos (to mention only two of the MANY). Peal, I have a first-time voter as well. He is massively into politics and was a huge Bernie fan. He truly hates Biden and feels very angry that Biden has accepted what my son calls "bribes" but which is PAC money. Angry is a tiny word for how mad he feels. That said, there is no way on earth he will not be voting for Biden because he knows exactly what Trump is doing and the destruction he is causing. I live in a swingish state (has been red for years, but past couple elections it has been blue), so it's not worth it to vote anything but blue. I hope you are able to show your son how important it is to do the right thing, particularly if you live in a red state. This is life or death at this point. I believe if Trump is re-elected, many people will die because of his stands on issues.
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