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Post by houstonsandy on Jul 13, 2020 18:00:45 GMT
I tested positive for Covid at the end of June. I had fever, cough and loss of appetite. I was seen by my Dr. and treated. I am recovered. I did have a chest xray on Friday just to be sure there are no lingering issues there, but have not yet received the results....expecting to hear later today.
My issue is this:
I host international students (from VietNam) during the school year. Neither went "home" over the summer as they normally do due to travel restrictions. One has family friends here in Houston that she went to stay with over summer to avoid the monthly living expenses they would have to pay me. The other was staying in my house over summer. She was at her cousins house for the week when I was exposed and tested positive. To be on the safe side, she chose to remain with her cousin until I was well. I just found out today that she and the other girl had been talking and emailed the International director to ask him to put them in with a new host family for the upcoming school year because I was sick. They are afraid to live here for the upcoming school year because I had the virus. I am recovered. I feel like I am now being treated like a leper because I had the virus. I had told her that I was under a doctor's care and was taking their advice on when to have her come back home....being overly cautious in fact.
I am pretty upset that they did not say anything to me before emailing their request to the director. It totally came out of the blue! I don't know if there will be any way to convince them or their families that I am not someone to be permanently scorned and avoided.
I just spoke to the director and if my current girls absolutely are afraid to live here, then he has two other girls he can move in here in their place.
I don't know why they think another host family would be any safer than here with me? I at least probably have some level of immunity now? although I know that is not a certainty. Ugh....what a mess!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:09:06 GMT
While I understand that it is unfortunate to be treated as though you are contagious, we really don't know as much as we think we know about this virus which is clear from the often changing information. Do you really blame a high school girl living away from her family for wanting to be somewhere that she feels safer? And as far as talking to you first maybe she thought that you would try to convince her to stay *which seems like you might have* and she didn't want to feel pressured.
Is this a source of income that you are dependent on? I don't know how this program works. When I was in school we did a People to People exchange during the summer and there wasn't any cost to stay with families except for our travel costs.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jul 13, 2020 18:09:35 GMT
How do you know you're clear of the virus not contagious? Were you tested again?
I know that you depend on the income from the student boarders, but if one of them posted here asking what to do, stay or find a new place to live, I'm pretty sure most of us would say she has to make the decision that's best for her and her health and piece of mind. There are so many unknowns, I don't blame them for their caution.
Glad you are feeling better, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:12:17 GMT
I'm sorry, I can see why you're feeling upset about this. But, people are frightened and I don't blame them for wanting to be somewhere they feel safe.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2020 18:16:19 GMT
I tested positive for Covid at the end of June. I had fever, cough and loss of appetite. I was seen by my Dr. and treated. I am recovered. I did have a chest xray on Friday just to be sure there are no lingering issues there, but have not yet received the results....expecting to hear later today.
My issue is this:
I host international students (from VietNam) during the school year. Neither went "home" over the summer as they normally do due to travel restrictions. One has family friends here in Houston that she went to stay with over summer to avoid the monthly living expenses they would have to pay me. The other was staying in my house over summer. She was at her cousins house for the week when I was exposed and tested positive. To be on the safe side, she chose to remain with her cousin until I was well. I just found out today that she and the other girl had been talking and emailed the International director to ask him to put them in with a new host family for the upcoming school year because I was sick. They are afraid to live here for the upcoming school year because I had the virus. I am recovered. I feel like I am now being treated like a leper because I had the virus. I had told her that I was under a doctor's care and was taking their advice on when to have her come back home....being overly cautious in fact.
I am pretty upset that they did not say anything to me before emailing their request to the director. It totally came out of the blue! I don't know if there will be any way to convince them or their families that I am not someone to be permanently scorned and avoided.
I just spoke to the director and if my current girls absolutely are afraid to live here, then he has two other girls he can move in here in their place.
I don't know why they think another host family would be any safer than here with me? I at least probably have some level of immunity now? although I know that is not a certainty. Ugh....what a mess!
You don't know how long you will be shedding this virus, do you? If it were my child, and in another country, I would do the same. There is just too much unknown at this point. I've been an exchange student over seas and no way would I have wanted to risk contracting a virus that may or may not cause me to send up in the hospital in a foreign country. Im sure you are worried about the financial impact that this is going to have on you and for that, Im sorry.
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Post by Mel on Jul 13, 2020 18:18:26 GMT
If anything I feel SAFER around recovered people! At least you know that they don't have the virus (anymore)!! If there are others willing to take the places, I'd go ahead and make that arrangement.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2020 18:22:09 GMT
If anything I feel SAFER around recovered people! At least you know that they don't have the virus (anymore)!! If there are others willing to take the places, I'd go ahead and make that arrangement. Studies are showing that yes, you can have it twice and often times the second time is worse. There's just not enough information available to say that once you get it, yo'ure good.
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Post by Zee on Jul 13, 2020 18:22:49 GMT
They don't owe you anything and I'm sure you'd be more understanding if you were supporting them rather than vice versa.
It's not personal. If these were Pea daughters almost the entire board, if not THE entire board, would tell you you're in the wrong on this one.
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Post by rodeomom on Jul 13, 2020 18:24:12 GMT
Have you had a test come back negative?
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Post by psiluvu on Jul 13, 2020 18:29:02 GMT
With information changing so fast and more unknown than known about the virus I wouldn't want my kids staying with you just for my own peace of mind.
I am sorry that it is going to affect you financially. Hopefully you get new students right away.
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Post by houstonsandy on Jul 13, 2020 18:29:04 GMT
It will be another month before the one girl even moves back to the house (school starts Aug 12).....the one staying with her cousin can certainly remain there until school starts if she feels safer there in the meantime. The director does not understand why they think staying with someone else would be any less risky than staying here a full month plus after I have recovered. There will be time for me to be retested in the meantime.
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Post by pancakes on Jul 13, 2020 18:34:18 GMT
If anything I feel SAFER around recovered people! At least you know that they don't have the virus (anymore)!! If there are others willing to take the places, I'd go ahead and make that arrangement. Studies are showing that yes, you can have it twice and often times the second time is worse. There's just not enough information available to say that once you get it, yo'ure good. This. And not just studies...there are people who are getting it a second time. Given how information about the virus is still in its early stages, I don't blame them for wanting to be rehoused. Besides...it sounds like there are other students who would be interested in living with you, so I don't really see it as a problem. Unless you've tested negative, you might still have the virus, even if your symptoms have decreased.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 13, 2020 18:34:29 GMT
It will be another month before the one girl even moves back to the house (school starts Aug 12).....the one staying with her cousin can certainly remain there until school starts if she feels safer there in the meantime. The director does not understand why they think staying with someone else would be any less risky than staying here a full month plus after I have recovered. There will be time for me to be retested in the meantime. You seem really upset, and I'd just like you to sit with that and ask yourself why it's bothering you so much. How does this impact you personally, financially, or in terms of your health? Were there other circumstances around your illness and positive test that made the student feel uncomfortable?
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Post by Rhondito on Jul 13, 2020 18:42:37 GMT
You don't know how long you will be shedding this virus, do you? This. I'm shocked the director is willing to place new students with you so soon with so many unknowns.
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Post by gar on Jul 13, 2020 18:44:21 GMT
Perhaps you can think how it would feel if it was one of your children in a situation where the information (and the virus) are changing fast. It's unfortunate, and you're right, there's no guarantees for them anywhere, but they obviously feel unsure.
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Post by silverlining on Jul 13, 2020 18:47:17 GMT
I'm sorry that this is happening to you.
Unfortunately, lately I have seen headlines that say it is not known for sure if having COVID gives immunity, and if it does, it is unknown how long that immunity lasts. I'm sure your students and their families are reading the same thing.
I have worked with many student from Vietnam over the years. I am not surprised at all that they didn't want to talk to you directly about their concerns. They don't want to be critical to you or appear ungrateful for all that you've done. What we see as "going over your head" may be the only way they can see to handle this situation respectfully.
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Post by houstonsandy on Jul 13, 2020 18:50:05 GMT
Yes I am upset. I have opened my house to these girls for over two years. I have been their “family” for 10 months of the year for over two years now. They are like my daughters. I feel betrayed that they would not discuss their concerns with me first. I am a good host mom. They always express how lucky they feel to have me for their host mom. This is not just a business relationship. I care for them greatly. If they are scared to live here then so be it. I don’t want them to be scared. I do wish they had come to me first however.
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Post by busy on Jul 13, 2020 19:03:42 GMT
Yes I am upset. I have opened my house to these girls for over two years. I have been their “family” for 10 months of the year for over two years now. They are like my daughters. I feel betrayed that they would not discuss their concerns with me first. I am a good host mom. They always express how lucky they feel to have me for their host mom. This is not just a business relationship. I care for them greatly. If they are scared to live here then so be it. I don’t want them to be scared. I do wish they had come to me first however. I'm sorry you're so upset by this; I get that it's a difficult situation and it feels unfair to you. But please try to look at it from the side of the students and their families. They are in a foreign country - one that's notorious for huge medical bill and has an out of control covid situation AND they are in a hotspot of that out of control situation. Further, not that much is known about the virus yet. You have recovered for now but we don't necessarily know what that means in the future. Of course their families want to minimize their risk of exposure; please try not to begrudge them that. I'll be honest, if it were my child, I would not want them going back to your house at all. That has nothing to do with you personally, and everything to do with the scientific uncertainty about the virus. It's painful that they didn't discuss it with you directly, but also understandable, I think. They probably expected some pushback from you and didn't feel comfortable standing strong against you. That doesn't mean they don't care about you or appreciate you opening your home to them, but it's hard to hurt people's feelings, even if you know you are doing the right thing for yourself. Please try to think about it from the other side and what would you advise your child to do if they were staying with a family in another country and this same situation arose? They are behaving reasonably, and doing what many/most people would advise their children to do in these circumstances.
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Post by pilcas on Jul 13, 2020 19:06:43 GMT
Don’t take it personally, everybody is afraid. Imagine how scary it would be for a young person to be sick in a foreign country
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 13, 2020 19:08:29 GMT
Yes I am upset. I have opened my house to these girls for over two years. I have been their “family” for 10 months of the year for over two years now. They are like my daughters. I feel betrayed that they would not discuss their concerns with me first. I am a good host mom. They always express how lucky they feel to have me for their host mom. This is not just a business relationship. I care for them greatly. If they are scared to live here then so be it. I don’t want them to be scared. I do wish they had come to me first however. I understand you are upset. Please don’t underestimate the cultural differences that may have made it very difficult for them to come to you about this. They may be "like” your daughters, but they’ve got years of their culture influencing them and how they approach a parent figure. I sincerely hope you are truly recovered and test negative - and that you don’t get sick again or have any lasting effects. Maybe it’s just a recurrence but I’ve read of more than one person testing negative after having Covid, and then having positive tests later. Do you have any idea where you were exposed? The fact that you work in a school may be a concern for some, as that might increase your risk as school starts up again.
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Post by Zee on Jul 13, 2020 19:10:25 GMT
I'm sorry that this is happening to you. Unfortunately, lately I have seen headlines that say it is not known for sure if having COVID gives immunity, and if it does, it is unknown how long that immunity lasts. I'm sure your students and their families are reading the same thing. I have worked with many student from Vietnam over the years. I am not surprised at all that they didn't want to talk to you directly about their concerns. They don't want to be critical to you or appear ungrateful for all that you've done. What we see as "going over your head" may be the only way they can see to handle this situation respectfully. Exactly, young Asian people not raised here in the US are often hesitant to appear to contradict elders. They probably didn't know what to do so they contacted whoever they felt was the authority here. Or they were worried you'd react exactly as you are reacting and they didn't want to confront you.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 13, 2020 19:11:16 GMT
Yes I am upset. I have opened my house to these girls for over two years. I have been their “family” for 10 months of the year for over two years now. They are like my daughters. I feel betrayed that they would not discuss their concerns with me first. I am a good host mom. They always express how lucky they feel to have me for their host mom. This is not just a business relationship. I care for them greatly. If they are scared to live here then so be it. I don’t want them to be scared. I do wish they had come to me first however. I get it. It isn't so much that they are moving out, just that they didn't talk to you and give you a heads up first, so now you feel slightly blindsided. Add into that the emotional factor you seem to have invested in them and I can get being upset. Give it time, let yourself grieve the loss of their company and then look forward to a new path.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 13, 2020 19:20:09 GMT
I would also leave open the possibility that this is a parent driven decision and process. It may have been very much out of their control once their parent(s) learned about your diagnosis.
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Post by smcast on Jul 13, 2020 19:26:27 GMT
I would also leave open the possibility that this is a parent driven decision and process. It may have been very much out of their control once their parent(s) learned about your diagnosis. This was my thought. I can understand your feelings. Your expectations are what is letting you down.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Jul 13, 2020 19:35:32 GMT
please try to look at it from the side of the students and their families. They are in a foreign country - one that's notorious for huge medical bill and has an out of control covid situation This. Absolutely, 100% this. Frankly, I feel it's incredibly irresponsible for any program to be sending minors to the US for an exchange program right now. I mean, unless parents actually *want* their kids to experience what it's like to live in a shitstorm of the Unknown led by the Incompetent.
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Post by houstonsandy on Jul 13, 2020 19:48:00 GMT
Just to be clear... they are not exchange students. They are International students whose parents send them here and pay for them to go to school in the US for high school and then to college.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 13, 2020 19:53:30 GMT
I agree that from their viewpoint.. it is cultural.. they are not going to confront you, they are saving face by talking to someone else. They are worried about the lack of US seriousness about the virus so feel safer with relatives.. true or not. you can be upset.. but I would just move on.. and international students are not going to be coming to the US much in the future.. trump is doing too much to discourage them.
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Post by paigepea on Jul 13, 2020 19:55:25 GMT
Sorry they’ve made you feel bad by not discussing their concerns with you. They’re young. Maybe they didn’t know how to bring it up without hurting your feelings so they ignored it and went through someone else.
If you have two negative tests in a row I feel you’re cleared. Here they say 2 negative tests or 14 days. Many work places require the negative test to return to work. I’d consider you safe and recovered at that point but what matters is that they got freaked out. It doesn’t matter that their chances of catching covid are the same in the other house. At this point we just have to let everyone go through whatever schtik makes them comfortable and try to understand.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jul 13, 2020 20:04:54 GMT
I'm sorry. This whole Covid think stinks. The fact that people can get it more than once, that it can live on shiny surfaces for several weeks, that you haven't had a negative test after what must be only 3 weeks at most since the positive test, that you haven't yet had the all-clear from your chest x-ray, that I'm assuming other people live in your house who could still be harbouring it - all of those things would be enough for me to agree with them.
The only part of this that could upset me if I were in your shoes, could possibly be that they didn't speak to me about it. And that could be a cultural thing as people have said. It still stinks. The fear is real. Hugs.
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Post by houstonsandy on Jul 13, 2020 20:29:44 GMT
It is still 30 days before they would have to move back in to the house. My daughter will be out and back to college 2 weeks before they would move back in. I clean the house daily and disinfect the kitchen multiple times a day.... always have. They each have their own room and bathroom. I have time to get two tests done to make sure I am negative before they would have to move back. Although I am breathing fine and have no wheezing or shortness of breath the chest x Ray is just another layer of verification that I am recovered. Yes I work in a small school. I am in an office by myself away from all the other offices and classrooms. I have very little exposure to students or other staff. I don’t go anywhere except the grocery store and I wear masks and use hand sanitizer and all the responsible things. I was exposed through my daughter who was exposed via her boyfriends grandmother when they saw her briefly to help her pick vegetables from her garden. At least that is the concensus... no way to be sure. Honestly, if the girls are that afraid to come back here to live I don’t know how they are going to handle being in a classroom 5 days a week.... which is the current plan for returning to school.
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