ashley
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Post by ashley on Aug 1, 2020 16:53:03 GMT
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 1, 2020 17:07:57 GMT
I hope they are ready to start a study here. Forcing us to go f2f with only masks for 10+ could be disastrous. How many will we sacrifice before they realize it was a bad idea. 😢😡😢😡😢😡😢😡
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ashley
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Post by ashley on Aug 1, 2020 17:09:21 GMT
I hope they are ready to start a study here. Forcing us to go f2f with only masks for 10+ could be disastrous. How many will we sacrifice before they realize it was a bad idea. 😢😡😢😡😢😡😢😡 I don’t think a study in the US is necessary — we’re all human.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 1, 2020 17:39:07 GMT
I hope they are ready to start a study here. Forcing us to go f2f with only masks for 10+ could be disastrous. How many will we sacrifice before they realize it was a bad idea. 😢😡😢😡😢😡😢😡 I don’t think a study in the US is necessary — we’re all human. I agree with you. I should have rolled my eyes after that statement. They are about to get a lot of individuals for a study here that is unnecessary.
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RosieKat
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Post by RosieKat on Aug 1, 2020 17:40:46 GMT
Yeah, give us about 4-6 weeks and we'll be able to prove or disprove that study.
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tracylynn
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 1, 2020 17:43:16 GMT
I'll be honest and say I'm not sure why this ever was in question.
Of course they can, and do!
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ashley
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Post by ashley on Aug 1, 2020 17:43:46 GMT
Yeah, give us about 4-6 weeks and we'll be able to prove or disprove that study. It’s actually two separate studies conducted in two countries — not nitpicking, just saying that it’s more than a one-off.
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ashley
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Post by ashley on Aug 1, 2020 17:46:39 GMT
I'll be honest and say I'm not sure why this ever was in question. Of course they can, and do! Interesting though that children under 5 have 10-100x the viral particles in their nasal passages (or whatever the proper anatomical term is!). And ages 5-18 show the same viral loads as adults. Here, children grade 3 and under don’t have to wear masks... and there is no reduction in class size. Yet high school is 50% capacity. So we’re putting the children at established, known greatest capability of spreading the virus in close physical contact with no requirements to even attempt to minimize the spread (aside from “encouraged hand washing”).
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Post by bianca42 on Aug 1, 2020 17:49:46 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time.
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Post by maryland on Aug 1, 2020 18:00:37 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. And they seem to be good at wearing masks while out shopping (the ones in our area). But yes, there aren't a lot of kids out. I hardly saw any kids of any age at the stores until May. Now there are some, and they are better than some adults about wearing masks. They aren't whining, they are wearing the mask the right way, etc.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 1, 2020 18:11:02 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. The studies I've read suggest that. This is why I'm so dumbfounded that so many believe it's ok to send kids back into cramped rooms without masks. Assuming work and childcare were not issues, what would people believe is the best for children to keep them safe.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 1, 2020 19:09:53 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. This is what I’ve been saying too, at least for the kids not in daycare. My kid didn’t see another single person outside of our household from March 13th when stuff was first locked down until sometime late in June when we let her meet up with her BFF outside at a local park. She has hung out with exactly two other kids since then and only a few adults in our closest circle.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Aug 1, 2020 22:22:37 GMT
I hope they are ready to start a study here. Forcing us to go f2f with only masks for 10+ could be disastrous. How many will we sacrifice before they realize it was a bad idea. 😢😡😢😡😢😡😢😡 We ARE the study.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 1, 2020 22:38:09 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. Of course!
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Post by KikiPea on Aug 1, 2020 23:32:14 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. Kids are out in my area everywhere. I'd say about 1/2 are wearing masks. Teachers are preparing for school now, and kids are back in daycare. No idea if masks are required there.
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 1, 2020 23:37:18 GMT
I hope they are ready to start a study here. Forcing us to go f2f with only masks for 10+ could be disastrous. How many will we sacrifice before they realize it was a bad idea. 😢😡😢😡😢😡😢😡 I don’t think a study in the US is necessary — we’re all human. You are correct, of course. But Americans are a special brand of stupid, and unless it’s applied to “our people”, “we” are not going to believe it. I hate this anti-science society I live in. I’m tired of stupidity reigning.
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Dani-Mani
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Post by Dani-Mani on Aug 1, 2020 23:40:40 GMT
We are an all virtual start, staff on campus, masks required of staff unless your door is SHUT. I’m so damn thankful.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 2, 2020 1:12:43 GMT
We are an all virtual start, staff on campus, masks required of staff unless your door is SHUT. I’m so damn thankful. Has your district accommodated staff children?
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 2, 2020 1:13:24 GMT
We are an all virtual start, staff on campus, masks required of staff unless your door is SHUT. I’m so damn thankful. OMG I am so happy for you. As of right now, we are still hybrid. Teachers report the 10th. Word is at least 20 students from my school are positive right now. That we know about. Right now. 🥴
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 2, 2020 2:32:59 GMT
We are an all virtual start, staff on campus, masks required of staff unless your door is SHUT. I’m so damn thankful. OMG I am so happy for you. As of right now, we are still hybrid. Teachers report the 10th. Word is at least 20 students from my school are positive right now. That we know about. Right now. 🥴 Wow, 20!
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Aug 2, 2020 2:47:42 GMT
I never doubted they were little unmasked covid breathing dragons.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 2, 2020 3:44:09 GMT
I never doubted they were little unmasked covid breathing dragons. Love this description. Is that bad?
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Post by *KAS* on Aug 2, 2020 4:32:08 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. Kids around here have been in camps, and playing in baseball tournaments for the last couple of months. They go back to class in my county in 2 days. (I think they said 25% opted for online). I don’t have kids so I’m just an observer. My boss’s kid is in elementary in my county so I learn a lot of it from her and local news.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 2, 2020 5:18:40 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. Kids around here have been in camps, and playing in baseball tournaments for the last couple of months. They go back to class in my county in 2 days. (I think they said 25% opted for online). I don’t have kids so I’m just an observer. My boss’s kid is in elementary in my county so I learn a lot of it from her and local news. How are the numbers in your area? Kids around here have been playing, church groups, county fairs etc. I am surprised nothing has happened so far, which is great!!Our numbers aren't horrible although we gained about 110 in July up from just about 35 from March- June. The states that kept their numbers low at first seem to have gained. I wonder if cities will see the same. It's changing here.
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Post by darkchami on Aug 2, 2020 5:29:27 GMT
One of my friends is telling me not to panic over this quite yet. She says it shows a high RNA load but not infective SARS CoV 2. Essentially it says there are large amounts of RNA in young children’s noses, but not necessarily that they transmit. She is a public health engineer currently sitting on committees making international COVID 19 policy.
We have been discussing spread among children for a while. She says that the spread in children below ten years of age is slow. However, she does say that infected children do pass it on easily to people with risk factors. So though they are less likely to cause large outbreaks, they still pose a risk to older adults and those with underlying health issues.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 2, 2020 12:19:41 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. I think so. My youngest three haven't played with or visited any friends since mid March. Thankfully their school is starting all virtual.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Aug 2, 2020 14:25:42 GMT
I wonder if the reason that we aren't seeing much spread by the under 10 crowd in the US is because they are mostly home. Of all the age groups, it seems like they have been the ones most isolated during this time. Kids around here have been in camps, and playing in baseball tournaments for the last couple of months. They go back to class in my county in 2 days. (I think they said 25% opted for online). I don’t have kids so I’m just an observer. My boss’s kid is in elementary in my county so I learn a lot of it from her and local news. Are you in Georgia? The peach makes me think so... This news was making the rounds in my teacher groups yesterday: A sleep away camp in Georgia has had a pretty significant outbreak— 260 positive cases among both kids and adults. The actual number could be higher—not everyone was tested. 76% of those tested were positive. The staff was wearing masks, the kids were not. And they did not open any windows for ventilation. That does not make me feel better—my kids will not be wearing masks and my (one) window does not open. www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/health/georgia-camp-coronavirus-outbreak-cdc-trnd/index.htmlInterestingly, a higher percentage of the youngest children tested positive: 51% among those age 6-10 years, 44% among those age 11-17 years, and 33% among those aged 18-21 years tested positive. "This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection and, contrary to early reports, might play an important role in transmission," the study authors wrote. CDC Report: www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6931e1.htm
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 2, 2020 14:33:59 GMT
One of my friends is telling me not to panic over this quite yet. She says it shows a high RNA load but not infective SARS CoV 2. Essentially it says there are large amounts of RNA in young children’s noses, but not necessarily that they transmit. She is a public health engineer currently sitting on committees making international COVID 19 policy. We have been discussing spread among children for a while. She says that the spread in children below ten years of age is slow. However, she does say that infected children do pass it on easily to people with risk factors. So though they are less likely to cause large outbreaks, they still pose a risk to older adults and those with underlying health issues. But how many kids are actually getting tested? How many are asymptomatic and not getting tested to actually KNOW how many potentially could have it?
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Post by silverlining on Aug 2, 2020 15:29:29 GMT
One of my friends is telling me not to panic over this quite yet. She says it shows a high RNA load but not infective SARS CoV 2. Essentially it says there are large amounts of RNA in young children’s noses, but not necessarily that they transmit. She is a public health engineer currently sitting on committees making international COVID 19 policy. We have been discussing spread among children for a while. She says that the spread in children below ten years of age is slow. However, she does say that infected children do pass it on easily to people with risk factors. So though they are less likely to cause large outbreaks, they still pose a risk to older adults and those with underlying health issues. I don't understand how the camp ended up with 76% of those tested testing positive if kids didn't spread it to each other. It seems unlikely to me that all of the kids who tested positive were exposed by staff people, especially since the staff wore masks and children didn't. Sadly, we will soon have a lot of data about what happens to the family members of those kids. I'm sure high-risk parents are still going to have contact with their children.
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Post by sam9 on Aug 2, 2020 16:38:26 GMT
I hope they are ready to start a study here. Forcing us to go f2f with only masks for 10+ could be disastrous. How many will we sacrifice before they realize it was a bad idea. 😢😡😢😡😢😡😢😡 I don’t think a study in the US is necessary — we’re all human. I agree, but in any case one of the studies in the article is from a pediatric hospital in Chicago, Illinois.
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