Covid & Florida: Villages thought they were impregnable

So she can freely spew her bullshit.  No.  I don't engage to a lot of what she says but there are times when I will not hold my tongue. 

Then get off your fucking computer and go spend time with them. There are other ways to give them a fun childhood that doesn't require tickets to Disney, you know.

That is word for word your quote.  There's nothing about nursing homes in that quote.

I’m waiting for them to eat and get dressed because we’re going to a friend’s house.

None of the things we find worth doing are available right now.

I don’t particularly care about the things we can do, although I still take them to do them.

You didn’t quote or respond to that though. All the things you quoted were about nursing homes.

I’m not baiting anyone, I’m posting a different view. Isn’t that the point of message boards? Otherwise, there wouldn’t be any conversation.

Everyone would just say “yea, that.”

Why is it baiting or punking if I have a different opinion?

I mean, clearly lots of people share my opinion or else Disney and Universal and the places that are open would be empty, but they’re not.



ETA: was responding to christine58 and apparently she deleted.

It is all called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! You are free to do you, but you should not be free to knowingly infect others! You are not free to cause the death of others, just because!

You know what? I barely engage with you if I can help it. I have been on this board amost 20 years now. There were a few years early on when I acted a brat, I said a couple of things that pissed people off but I *apologized* for those things years ago.  You harbor a grudge like no one I have ever seen on this board, and that says a lot. I've never done a thing to you other than offend you about a comment I made about this being an American board. Like back during the Bush days and the war. 

You never ever let me or anyone else here forget it. I'm sick of it. I have a lot of fun here and share as many kind things as I can here. I honestly don't know wtf is your obsession with me. I swear Jesus you remind me of Dorinda from HW. That's how I picture you, a mean, hateful spitelful bitter thing. Back on ignore you go, but I'm in no mood today. FFS man, you are ridiculous lady, you embarrass yourself. 

Even mild cases have been shown to cause lung damage and heart scarring. Two separate studies recently released that looked only at asymptomatic cases or cases mild and not requiring hospitalization found heart scarring in the majority. So this is not about just avoiding a ventilator or hospital — even people who didn’t know they were sick will have comprised heart strength that will last for a very long time (forever? I don’t think scar tissue on the heart just goes away...)

How is pjaye responding to someone else showing an obsession with you?

My sister's ex lives in the Villages. He's an idiot.

RE: What I bolded above, the issue then isn’t with our health care system. The fault lies with the person who didn’t have a signed living will documented with their provider, and also with the person’s family for not being crystal clear with the person on what that person would want should they become incapacitated.

I’m in my 50’s and for at least the last decade every time I have gone to the doctor for anything they ask me if I have a living will filled out (which I do, and it very clearly spells out under exactly which circumstances I should be resuscitated or not). My family can argue all they want, but my wishes in that document are very clear and I believe it is legally binding. My DH and I have had that discussion multiple times where we have stated to each other what our wishes would be so should anything happen we are on the same page. Every adult should have a living will on file with their health care provider, and also a copy with their will and other important papers.

My mother had advancing Alzheimer’s and was moved to a nursing home when she started wandering at night and it was too hard for my brother to continue caring for her on his own at home. She had a DNR on file at that point, it was something we were specifically asked about when we moved her in. When she had health issues come up that were not life threatening, the nursing home called and one of us took her to the doctor and she was treated. At the end when she passed away peacefully in her sleep, the only reason the paramedics were called was to literally pronounce her dead. No one from the nursing home or the paramedics was going to try to revive her against her wishes.

As for the comment about attempted suicide, that is just harsh. How many times have people tried it and were unsuccessful only to realize later that their attempt was actually a cry for help? More often than not, it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If we as a society had more and better access to ongoing mental health care from childhood on, many of those people would likely never get to that level of desperation.