edie3
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Post by edie3 on Aug 5, 2020 23:15:23 GMT
I am sure there is a reason, but not a good one.
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Post by elaine on Aug 5, 2020 23:16:27 GMT
He thinks it will gain him votes.
That is the only reason why he does anything these days.
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edie3
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Post by edie3 on Aug 5, 2020 23:17:58 GMT
He thinks it will gain him votes. Not sure I understand how that gets votes.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 5, 2020 23:19:27 GMT
So that parents can return to work.
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Post by elaine on Aug 5, 2020 23:23:15 GMT
He thinks it will gain him votes. Not sure I understand how that gets votes. Really? Parents who want to get their lives back to pre-pandemic and go back to work.
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edie3
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Post by edie3 on Aug 5, 2020 23:27:56 GMT
Well, I knew it wasn't out of the goodness of his heart.
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Post by katlady on Aug 5, 2020 23:29:16 GMT
Not sure I understand how that gets votes. Really? Parents who want to get their lives back to pre-pandemic and go back to work. And then people will start spending money again and the economy will grow and he can claim that as a win for him.
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Post by megop on Aug 5, 2020 23:30:02 GMT
Desperately trying to pander to his base and an inability to admit he is wrong.
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Post by paulao on Aug 5, 2020 23:45:45 GMT
Because he’s an asshole who doesn’t care if people live or die.
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pudgygroundhog
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Aug 5, 2020 23:54:03 GMT
It's for his base that still thinks it is a hoax or not a big deal.
He is desperate for any sense of normalcy because his numbers are shit, people are dying, and the economy is struggling. He thinks the appearance of normal will fool people.
You can't gaslight a pandemic and science doesn't care what you think. we are heading for an even bigger diaster now.
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peabay
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Post by peabay on Aug 5, 2020 23:58:29 GMT
So that workers can be the cogs in the machinery that keep his billionaire friends happy.
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Post by Merge on Aug 6, 2020 0:14:56 GMT
Because he's totally fine with deficit spending to give tax breaks to corporations and billionaires, but can't imagine making sure people have a universal basic income or wage/job protection to be able to afford to stay home with their kids during a global pandemic.
Also, the GOP hates public education and public school teachers, and doesn't care if we all die.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 6, 2020 0:18:30 GMT
Yeah, as long as schools are closed, there is zero chance the economy recovers and he knows it.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 6, 2020 0:25:56 GMT
Money. It's ALLL about money. If schools aren't open it's going to trickle down to more layoffs, and more on unemployment, and more business's going bankrupt. For example- Schools are the #1 buyer of paper. We have several papermills in MN that have barely been making it. if schools don't open, they will close. If the mills close, the loggers don't have to cut wood. if loggers arn't cutting wood, truck drivers delivering it won't have work. Also decrease in mechanics, fuel, etc use. See how one thing impacts so many people?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 6, 2020 0:32:06 GMT
It's for his base that still thinks it is a hoax or not a big deal. He is desperate for any sense of normalcy because his numbers are shit, people are dying, and the economy is struggling. He thinks the appearance of normal will fool people. You can't gaslight a pandemic and science doesn't care what you think. we are heading for an even bigger diaster now. Exactly this. I can’t believe how many people in the more rural areas between our house and our cabin are still completely behind him, when he has done less than nothing to make their lives better and in fact has done so much that effectively makes their lives worse. But God forbid a Democrat gets elected president in November! Then the whole freaking world will go to hell according to them. These people hunt, they fish, they farm. You would think people who engage in these things would have at least a small concern for the environment, for clean air, clean water, safe food. It just blows my mind hearing some of the utterly stupid, conspiracy theory type stuff they believe. I often really wish I had a printed copy of that graph I’ve seen that shows the year by year deficit under each of the last several presidents that shows how the Republicans constantly run things into the ground and the Democratic presidents dig us out time and again. I’d love to whip that out at the ready and say, “Really? THIS is what the party of supposedly smaller government and lower taxes (for rich people) buys you? Wake the hell up!”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2020 0:38:32 GMT
One little thing, is he has stated he will cut funding to any school that does not open on time... Roughly 5%... If he cuts the funding think of all the extra dollars he will be able put toward his wall and/or to plunder from the Treasury and put in his pockets!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2020 0:41:41 GMT
Exactly this. I can’t believe how many people in the more rural areas between our house and our cabin are still completely behind him, when he has done less than nothing to make their lives better and in fact has done so much that effectively makes their lives worse. I had a driver tell me today that it is a 'hoax', yes there is a disease, but not more then the flu?! She know doctors and nurses who told her at the hospitals they called every person coming into the ER listed as Covid to push the numbers up. Only 1% are getting sick and on and on she went! I am not in rural south or any where rural.... Were there land instead of water (and I could walk better) I cold walk 5 miles, maybe a bit more, to Staten Island which is part of NYC!!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 6, 2020 0:52:02 GMT
One little thing, is he has stated he will cut funding to any school that does not open on time... Roughly 5%... If he cuts the funding think of all the extra dollars he will be able put toward his wall and/or to plunder from the Treasury and put in his pockets! I thought only Congress could make those types of changes? And what’s so entirely stupid about that is the schools ARE opening, even if they are teaching kids 100% virtually. The teachers are still teaching, the kids still have access to some variation of education if the parents see to it that their kids follow through. Some parents truly don’t give a crap whether their kids do the work or not. One of DD’s friends (4th grade) apparently didn’t log in to the school’s platform for TWO STRAIGHT WEEKS last spring in spite of the district supplying a Chromebook (the family does have internet but not enough devices for each kid). The mom (who doesn’t work and stays home with their 3yo) didn’t know until the kid’s teacher finally called her on the phone and said the kid needed to participate in the daily lessons being provided. You really can’t blame the school for that. I completely get it that some families will have difficulty with this, but the teachers and schools ARE still doing their jobs, difficult as those jobs may be right now. The teachers in our district have been working all summer long on this stuff in an effort to prepare for this nightmare in front of us, and I’m pretty sure none of them have gotten a dime of overtime pay to do it either.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 6, 2020 1:15:05 GMT
I often really wish I had a printed copy of that graph I’ve seen that shows the year by year deficit under each of the last several presidents that shows how the Republicans constantly run things into the ground and the Democratic presidents dig us out time and again. I’d love to whip that out at the ready and say, “Really? Do you have a link to this? I may need it for future meme's I bite my tongue about. I need back up! LOL!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 6, 2020 1:23:13 GMT
I often really wish I had a printed copy of that graph I’ve seen that shows the year by year deficit under each of the last several presidents that shows how the Republicans constantly run things into the ground and the Democratic presidents dig us out time and again. I’d love to whip that out at the ready and say, “Really? Do you have a link to this? I may need it for future meme's I bite my tongue about. I need back up! LOL! I don’t, but I wish I did! I know some of the more involved political Peas have posted it here in the past but even when I Google I haven’t managed to find it. Maybe @zingermack or @freddie knows what I’m talking about and has a link to it?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 6, 2020 1:25:04 GMT
oooh dang!! because according to my Republican friends and family, Trump has saved the USA economy..of course before COVID foiled all his genius plans...all said dripping in sarcasm of course. haha
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 1:57:04 GMT
From PolitiFact... July 2019. link” What even is the deficit?
Some people confuse the federal deficit with the debt — but they’re two separate concepts. The Department of the Treasury explains it like this: The deficit is the difference between the money that the government makes and the money it spends. If the government spends more than it collects in revenues, then it’s running a deficit. The federal debt is the running total of the accumulated deficits.” ”President Ronald) Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion to 175 billion." This is more or less accurate. The federal deficit went from about $78.9 billion at the beginning of Reagan’s presidency to $152.6 billion at the end of it. At points between 1983 and 1986, the deficit was actually more than $175 billion. ”George H.W.) Bush 41 took it to 300 billion." Close, but not exactly. The number was around $255 billion at the end of Bush’s term. The deficit spiked at around $290.3 billion the year before he left office. "(Bill) Clinton got it to zero." This is true. During his presidency, Clinton managed to zero out the deficit and end his term with a $128.2 billion surplus. "(George W.) Bush 43 took it from 0 to 1.2 trillion." This is in the ballpark. Ignoring the fact that he actually started his presidency with a surplus, Bush left office in 2009 with a federal deficit of roughly $1.41 trillion. "(Barack) Obama halved it to 600 billion." This is essentially accurate. Obama left the presidency with a deficit of approximately $584.6 billion, which is more than halving $1.41 trillion. The deficit was even lower in 2015 at around $441.9 billion.” The article shows that as of last summer the deficit under trump hit a trillion. Today because of the pandemic and high unemployment I’m sure that number has gone up, quite a bit. In the article it points out that George W had to contend with 9/11, two wars, & the beginning of the Great Recession. It doesn’t say why the deficit went up under Reagan and Bush 41. Wasn’t there a recession somewhere in the 1980’s? This was rated mostly true by PolitiFact. ”Reagan took the deficit from $70 billion to $175 billion. Bush 41 took it to $300 billion. Clinton got it to zero. Bush 43 took it from zero to $1.2 trillion. Obama halved it to $600 billion. Trump’s got it back to a trillion."”
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 6, 2020 2:03:00 GMT
Because the parents are “human capital stock” and need to get back to work to pretend Trump is an economic stable genius so he can get re elected.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 6, 2020 2:14:06 GMT
This was rated mostly true by PolitiFact. ”Reagan took the deficit from $70 billion to $175 billion. Bush 41 took it to $300 billion. Clinton got it to zero. Bush 43 took it from zero to $1.2 trillion. Obama halved it to $600 billion. Trump’s got it back to a trillion."” hmmmm. what does "mostly true" mean? here is the other thing the republicans will go after. Taxes. They will say they recovered our deficit by raising taxes...true?
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 6, 2020 2:35:12 GMT
If the kids are in school, he considers it free daycare. When they are in free daycare, families can go back to work. If people are back to work, they will have a paycheck and not be sitting around watching their world fall apart, and blaming him. If they don't blame him for the mess he made, they will likely vote for him again. And that is all that matters to him. first, not attacking you, but the idea posted as I have heard it before If schools are so essential to get people back to work, why isn't there free preschool or hell younger daycare? Is it just when they reach the magic age of 5?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 2:43:10 GMT
Do you have a link to this? I may need it for future meme's I bite my tongue about. I need back up! LOL! I don’t, but I wish I did! I know some of the more involved political Peas have posted it here in the past but even when I Google I haven’t managed to find it. Maybe @zingermack or @freddie knows what I’m talking about and has a link to it? Clinton cleaned it up. Bush fucked it up - and the entire economy went into meltdown at the end of this term that took Obama most of his term to bring back toward up - having its best year since Bush in 2015. Then things turned south at the end of Obama's term. And now Trump has put the deficit back on incinerate. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/does-donald-trump-know-what-the-debt-ceilingAll that deficit spending means the debt grows and grows as we issue more paper to make up the difference between govt income and outlays.
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Post by Merge on Aug 6, 2020 2:54:10 GMT
If the kids are in school, he considers it free daycare. When they are in free daycare, families can go back to work. If people are back to work, they will have a paycheck and not be sitting around watching their world fall apart, and blaming him. If they don't blame him for the mess he made, they will likely vote for him again. And that is all that matters to him. first, not attacking you, but the idea posted as I have heard it before If schools are so essential to get people back to work, why isn't there free preschool or hell younger daycare? Is it just when they reach the magic age of 5? Well - in our district there is free/sliding scale public preK for low income families. It’s in most of the elementary schools, and we also have early childhood centers that are nothing but 3K and preK-4. And I think NCI is federal funds to pay for private daycare? Someone correct me if I’m wrong. Of course, none of that changes the fact that schools and daycare centers should not bear the burden of restarting the economy for Trump’s benefit.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2020 2:54:16 GMT
I thought only Congress could make those types of changes? And what’s so entirely stupid about that is the schools ARE opening, even if they are teaching kids 100% virtually. The teachers are still teaching, the kids still have access to some variation of education if the parents see to it that their kids follow through I didn't think he could do it, but surely he will try to snatch every dollar. He took Military monies to try to add them to his wall project. He will find a way to punish those who do not toe the line, proven practices!!
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Post by librarylady on Aug 6, 2020 3:17:08 GMT
So that parents can return to work.
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