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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2020 15:15:00 GMT
It was the first time a significant number of prominent white conservative evangelicals have publicly criticized Falwell Jr. Mark Walker, a former Southern Baptist pastor and Republican congressman from North Carolina, tweeted that Falwell Jr.’s “ongoing behavior is appalling” and called for him to step down. (Walker is the vice chairman of the House Republican Caucus.) Dean Inserra, a prominent Florida pastor and Liberty graduate, tweeted that “the leadership at the top is tragic” and urged the board to “show some courage.” Colby Garman, a Southern Baptist pastor and executive committee member of the denomination in Virginia, also called on Falwell Jr. to resign." Too bad they do not take a stand for our Country! |
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 9, 2020 16:43:48 GMT
A friend’s DD was hired by Liberty as Music Director. She moved and made plans. A few weeks before her first semester they told her their first choice became available so they were letting her go. Nice work from a “Christian” university. Seriously?? Did they pay her moving expenses? |
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Post by pierogi on Aug 9, 2020 17:36:20 GMT
A friend’s DD was hired by Liberty as Music Director. She moved and made plans. A few weeks before her first semester they told her their first choice became available so they were letting her go. Nice work from a “Christian” university. These guys (and gals) who make huge profits selling religion are all money grubbers. I have no problem with anyone living comfortably but to own multiple mansions and yachts etc. from religious donations is absurd! It’s fraud IMO. The atrocious way they treat their faculty is widely known in academia. Tell your DD’s friend she dodged a bullet. |
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Post by Leone on Aug 9, 2020 18:21:17 GMT
My first thought was this was like Senator Gary Hart from Colorado in 1988...he was the front runner to get the democratic nomination for president. Suddenly photos of him showed up on his yacht in a compromising pose...his political career never recovered.
This Falwell photo looks disgusting.
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Post by worrywart on Aug 9, 2020 18:32:37 GMT
I don't know if Gary Hart was drunk with his pants partially unzipped but it is true that men like this come from both sides of the aisle. What makes this even worse is that he has so many ties to religious institutions...or did..I would say unbelievable but it is not  . |
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Post by luckyjune on Aug 9, 2020 18:59:31 GMT
Is his daddy the one that said god was going to kill him if his followers didn’t give him a million dollars? I believe that was Oral Roberts. Cut from the same cloth, though. |
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 9, 2020 22:47:33 GMT
“How is this Jerry Falwell Jr. photo even real?” tweeted Meghan McCain. “Also if you're running the largest Christian university in America maybe don't put photos of yourself on social media with your pants undone on a yacht - with random women in bad wigs. So gross, so hypocritical.” On Thursday, Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.), a Southern Baptist minister and former Liberty instructor, called for Falwell’s resignation, citing several recent after several scandals. "Faculty and alumni who have been critical of the school’s direction under Falwell Jr. were both shocked and gratified by the news of his leave of absence. “For at least a decade, Liberty’s faculty have labored under Falwell’s increasingly autocratic leadership and been shamed by his public behavior besides,” said Marybeth Davis Baggett, who taught English at Liberty for 17 years and resigned this spring after publishing an op-ed calling for Falwell Jr.’s removal based on his handling of the coronavirus crisis. Just want to quote the three people above who give me some hope. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 22:53:32 GMT
My first thought was this was like Senator Gary Hart from Colorado in 1988...he was the front runner to get the democratic nomination for president. Suddenly photos of him showed up on his yacht in a compromising pose...his political career never recovered. This Falwell photo looks disgusting. Pretty sure Gary Hart's whole shtick wasn't trying to tell people what God wants them to do (as if he has an inside line on that). |
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Post by silverlining on Aug 9, 2020 23:56:42 GMT
He apparently forgot he should pay off the woman in the photo and pay a newspaper to buy the photo and bury it.
I can't believe that more Christians aren't outraged by the gross hypocrisy of these evangelical leaders and the politicians they support.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 14:01:51 GMT
How Jerry Falwell Jr. Lost His Flock "With Falwell’s ouster, one of the most influential evangelical institutions in the country is facing an identity crisis: There’s never been a time when Liberty wasn’t led by a Falwell. The president has also lost one of his most prominent ties to the evangelical community. Donald Trump earned credibility in Christian circles four years ago in part because Falwell promoted him as the evangelical champion, and now it’s not clear who Falwell speaks for. Liberty’s leaders see Falwell’s statements and actions as unbecoming of a Christian leader, especially for someone in such a high-visibility role. But most of all, Christians inside and outside of Liberty fear Falwell has tarnished the mission of the school, and of evangelicalism—to “train champions for Christ.” Falwell has long courted scandal, but was previously met with seemingly endless patience from his backers at Liberty. The school’s leadership stuck by Falwell as he became one of Trump’s earliest and most dedicated supporters, and when, following the 2015 mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, he encouraged students to get concealed-carry permits so they could “end those Muslims before they walk in,” ostensibly referring to terrorists. School leadership supported him through allegations of internal bullying and corrupt self-dealing, and when Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, said he helped Falwell destroy racy “personal photographs.” Falwell didn’t even lose his job in May, when he tweeted a picture of a face mask depicting figures in KKK robes and blackface, an attempt to mock Virginia Governor Ralph Northam. Enough of Falwell’s supporters saw that photo as a debatable political stunt that the controversy dissipated. But it was still a turning point—a moment when pastors, alumni, and board members began questioning whether Falwell should stay in his role." www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/jerry-fallwell-evangelicals-liberty/615112/ |
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 10, 2020 16:17:32 GMT
He's a pig and it baffles me that people donate money to these complete scammers.
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Post by gar on Aug 10, 2020 16:20:32 GMT
I can't believe that more Christians aren't outraged by the gross hypocrisy of these evangelical leaders and the politicians they support. And over and over again too! |
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Post by SnoopyFan on Aug 10, 2020 16:39:43 GMT
“I’ve apologized to everybody, and I’ve promised my kids ... I’m going to try to be a good boy from here on out,” he said in the interview.  USA Today |
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Post by evnimom on Aug 10, 2020 17:29:55 GMT
“I’ve apologized to everybody, and I’ve promised my kids ... I’m going to try to be a good boy from here on out,” he said in the interview. USA Todayoh ick! just ick! |
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OMFG "Late in the day, Falwell’s purported exit became complicated. Reached by phone Monday night, Falwell said he was not resigning. He referred further questions to his public relations team, who did not comment. According to Corry, a resignation process had begun, and then broke down. Discussions continued Monday evening. Falwell said late Monday, in response to the university’s statement, that he did resign but that “it’s still up in the air.” On Sunday night, a columnist at the conservative Washington Examiner published an exclusive statement from Falwell saying he has been seeking counseling after finding out his wife, Becki, had an affair with a man the couple met in 2012. In the piece, Falwell characterized the relationship as akin to “fatal attraction” and said the man threatened to reveal the affair if they didn’t pay him hefty sums. The column quoted the man, who has been identified in previous reporting by Politico, BuzzFeed and others as Giancarlo Granda, as denying Falwell’s allegations. On Monday, Reuters quoted Granda as saying that from 2012 until 2018 he had a sexual relationship with Becki Falwell — one about which her husband knew all along. According to Reuters, Granda denied any intent to extort the Falwells and said he was intending to negotiate a buyout from his business arrangement. The Reuters report also said that, according to Granda, Falwell was in the room watching as his wife and Granda had sex. Falwell’s legal team denied that allegation. In Falwell’s earlier statement Sunday, he said the affair was “something in which I was not involved.” Becki Falwell did not return calls or text messages for comment Monday. Efforts to reach Granda on Monday were not successful." www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/24/jerry-falwell-jr-agrees-resign-liberty-university/ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 5:14:54 GMT
How very pious, amIRite?  Giancarlo Granda says he was 20 when he met Jerry and Becki Falwell while working as a pool attendant at the Fontainebleau Miami Beach hotel in March 2012. Starting that month and continuing into 2018, Granda told Reuters that the relationship involved him having sex with Becki Falwell while Jerry Falwell looked on. Granda showed Reuters emails, text messages and other evidence that he says demonstrate the sexual nature of his relationship with the couple, who have been married since 1987. “Becki and I developed an intimate relationship and Jerry enjoyed watching from the corner of the room,” Granda said in an interview. Now 29, he described the liaisons as frequent – “multiple times per year” – and said the encounters took place at hotels in Miami and New York, and at the Falwells’ home in Virginia.... Becki Falwell, 53, is a political figure in her own right. She served on the advisory board of the group Women for Trump, which advocates for the president’s reelection campaign. She also spoke as part of a panel with her husband and Donald Trump Jr at last year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, the signature annual gathering of conservatives. Jerry Falwell and others refer to her as “the first lady of Liberty University.”... The material Granda showed Reuters includes screenshots from what Granda said was a FaceTime conversation he had with the Falwells in 2019. During that call, Granda said, Becki was naked as the two discussed their relationship while Jerry peeked from behind a door. Reuters was able to verify Granda’s description of the screenshots. www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-falwell-relationship/ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 5:59:13 GMT
He apparently forgot he should pay off the woman in the photo and pay a newspaper to buy the photo and bury it. I can't believe that more Christians aren't outraged by the gross hypocrisy of these evangelical leaders and the politicians they support. I’ve been a (theologically) conservative Christian for most of life with many friends who identify as the same. I’ve never met anyone who hasn’t always seen him for the charlatan he is. I just don’t understand who these people are who embrace and follow him. |
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Post by wholarmor on Aug 25, 2020 6:34:38 GMT
Most Conservative Christians will keep their lips zipped about it,"don't talk ill of the Lord's anointed." This is also why I think they won't talk bad about Trump, but that didn't stop them saying bad things about Obama. He apparently forgot he should pay off the woman in the photo and pay a newspaper to buy the photo and bury it. I can't believe that more Christians aren't outraged by the gross hypocrisy of these evangelical leaders and the politicians they support. I’ve been a (theologically) conservative Christian for most of life with many friends who identify as the same. I’ve never met anyone who hasn’t always seen him for the charlatan he is. I just don’t understand who these people are who embrace and follow him. |
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OMFG "Late in the day, Falwell’s purported exit became complicated. Reached by phone Monday night, Falwell said he was not resigning. He referred further questions to his public relations team, who did not comment. According to Corry, a resignation process had begun, and then broke down. Discussions continued Monday evening. Falwell said late Monday, in response to the university’s statement, that he did resign but that “it’s still up in the air.” On Sunday night, a columnist at the conservative Washington Examiner published an exclusive statement from Falwell saying he has been seeking counseling after finding out his wife, Becki, had an affair with a man the couple met in 2012. In the piece, Falwell characterized the relationship as akin to “fatal attraction” and said the man threatened to reveal the affair if they didn’t pay him hefty sums. The column quoted the man, who has been identified in previous reporting by Politico, BuzzFeed and others as Giancarlo Granda, as denying Falwell’s allegations. On Monday, Reuters quoted Granda as saying that from 2012 until 2018 he had a sexual relationship with Becki Falwell — one about which her husband knew all along. According to Reuters, Granda denied any intent to extort the Falwells and said he was intending to negotiate a buyout from his business arrangement. The Reuters report also said that, according to Granda, Falwell was in the room watching as his wife and Granda had sex. Falwell’s legal team denied that allegation. In Falwell’s earlier statement Sunday, he said the affair was “something in which I was not involved.” Becki Falwell did not return calls or text messages for comment Monday. Efforts to reach Granda on Monday were not successful." www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/08/24/jerry-falwell-jr-agrees-resign-liberty-university/I saw this too and was not one little bit surprised. He's a fraud and fake Christian like so many others before him. Yet people follow him anyway. |
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 25, 2020 10:33:41 GMT
I'm betting that Trump has pictures, and that's why Falwell went all out Trump 2016.
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Post by Really Red on Aug 25, 2020 13:33:23 GMT
He apparently forgot he should pay off the woman in the photo and pay a newspaper to buy the photo and bury it. I can't believe that more Christians aren't outraged by the gross hypocrisy of these evangelical leaders and the politicians they support. I’ve been a (theologically) conservative Christian for most of life with many friends who identify as the same. I’ve never met anyone who hasn’t always seen him for the charlatan he is. I just don’t understand who these people are who embrace and follow him. I will tell you why. I know for a fact that people are terrified of him. It is a similar situation to Trump. You disagree with Falwell in any way shape or form (even the most mild disagreement), then you are fired, your family members are fired and anyone you are friends with is fired. This is not an exaggeration. The Post and the NYT have done in-depth articles on Falwell and people are terrified to come forward, even anonymously. Many of us know never to work for LU, but there are many people who are dependent on their jobs. So no one is embracing him; they just want to work and keep their jobs. They believe in his father's way of doing things and think that Jr. is just a necessary evil now. His brother, Pastor Johnathan, is quite revered and respected. I haven't heard bad things about him at all. I am going to qualify this. MANY people do not embrace him but have no other choice. There are people who think he's all that. You wouldn't believe how many people think that Falwell's letter was "fake news." Really. People pointed out that HE wrote it and they said "no, you're wrong." As soon as they couldn't deny it anymore, it was all the "people without sin, cast the first stone" type of thing. Same people who rant against the democrats. Ugh. The best thing for Liberty is that Jr is out, but the temp guy they put in is pretty awful himself. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 14:08:45 GMT
I’ve been a (theologically) conservative Christian for most of life with many friends who identify as the same. I’ve never met anyone who hasn’t always seen him for the charlatan he is. I just don’t understand who these people are who embrace and follow him. I will tell you why. I know for a fact that people are terrified of him. It is a similar situation to Trump. You disagree with Falwell in any way shape or form (even the most mild disagreement), then you are fired, your family members are fired and anyone you are friends with is fired. This is not an exaggeration. The Post and the NYT have done in-depth articles on Falwell and people are terrified to come forward, even anonymously. Many of us know never to work for LU, but there are many people who are dependent on their jobs. So no one is embracing him; they just want to work and keep their jobs. They believe in his father's way of doing things and think that Jr. is just a necessary evil now. His brother, Pastor Johnathan, is quite revered and respected. I haven't heard bad things about him at all. I am going to qualify this. MANY people do not embrace him but have no other choice. There are people who think he's all that. You wouldn't believe how many people think that Falwell's letter was "fake news." Really. People pointed out that HE wrote it and they said "no, you're wrong." As soon as they couldn't deny it anymore, it was all the "people without sin, cast the first stone" type of thing. Same people who rant against the democrats. Ugh. The best thing for Liberty is that Jr is out, but the temp guy they put in is pretty awful himself. Religious people are used to contorting words and finding "deeper meaning' and "interpretation" in text. So is it any wonder they will twist and turn to find some way to ease their cognitive dissonance that an obvious charlatan is a "moral (majority) man" who can help lead people to righteousness? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 14:28:16 GMT
This guy is so spot on - Poe's law
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Post by Olan on Aug 25, 2020 14:30:58 GMT
Get rid of the pool 🤣😂
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"On Monday, US media reported that Mr Falwell had resigned from Liberty University, citing officials from the institution. But Mr Falwell later reversed course later that night, telling his attorneys not to tender the letter for immediate resignation following media reports on the scandal. Mr Falwell spoke out to several US media outlets, telling the Wall Street Journal newspaper that he was still entitled his full compensation. "The board put me on leave, took away my duties as prez, and that's not permitted by my contract," Mr Falwell said on Monday night. "And they put me on leave because of pressure from self-righteous people." In a further U-turn, after hours of conflicting reports, he told US outlets ABC News and the Wall Street Journal that he had sent his resignation letter to Liberty University's board. The executive committee and board of the evangelical college said it would meet on Tuesday to discuss the matter." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53897647I'm finally starting to understand why Falwell went all in for Trump instead of Cruz. It never made sense to me at the time. Sounds like "the fixer" Cohen applied just the right pressure to just the right place. |
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Post by Really Red on Aug 25, 2020 15:29:14 GMT
"On Monday, US media reported that Mr Falwell had resigned from Liberty University, citing officials from the institution. But Mr Falwell later reversed course later that night, telling his attorneys not to tender the letter for immediate resignation following media reports on the scandal. Mr Falwell spoke out to several US media outlets, telling the Wall Street Journal newspaper that he was still entitled his full compensation. "The board put me on leave, took away my duties as prez, and that's not permitted by my contract," Mr Falwell said on Monday night. "And they put me on leave because of pressure from self-righteous people."In a further U-turn, after hours of conflicting reports, he told US outlets ABC News and the Wall Street Journal that he had sent his resignation letter to Liberty University's board. The executive committee and board of the evangelical college said it would meet on Tuesday to discuss the matter." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53897647I'm finally starting to understand why Falwell went all in for Trump instead of Cruz. It never made sense to me at the time. Sounds like "the fixer" Cohen applied just the right pressure to just the right place. The Board of Trustees has turned a blind eye to Jr. for years. The Board is filled with his people and they do his bidding until finally, they couldn't. The next thing LU needs to do is get rid of the board. We have all known for years about the pool boy and really, all of us thought it was Jr.'s relationship with him and that's what he was hiding. I must say I didn't think I could be surprised about something, but I was surprised. Everyone is a little disgusted he threw his wife under the bus, but she is not a well-liked person. Nor is he, for that matter. I am so so SO happy this came out. We always suspected that Trump/Cohen knew something about Jr. and that's why he didn't support the more likely candidate: Cruz. |
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Post by luckyjune on Aug 25, 2020 15:38:12 GMT
"On Monday, US media reported that Mr Falwell had resigned from Liberty University, citing officials from the institution. But Mr Falwell later reversed course later that night, telling his attorneys not to tender the letter for immediate resignation following media reports on the scandal. Mr Falwell spoke out to several US media outlets, telling the Wall Street Journal newspaper that he was still entitled his full compensation. "The board put me on leave, took away my duties as prez, and that's not permitted by my contract," Mr Falwell said on Monday night. "And they put me on leave because of pressure from self-righteous people."In a further U-turn, after hours of conflicting reports, he told US outlets ABC News and the Wall Street Journal that he had sent his resignation letter to Liberty University's board. The executive committee and board of the evangelical college said it would meet on Tuesday to discuss the matter." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53897647I'm finally starting to understand why Falwell went all in for Trump instead of Cruz. It never made sense to me at the time. Sounds like "the fixer" Cohen applied just the right pressure to just the right place. 45 must have dirt on a lot of people! Cruz, Graham, Paul, they all changed their tunes. |
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Post by fredfreddy44 on Aug 25, 2020 15:54:27 GMT
It's 1987 all over again.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 25, 2020 16:37:14 GMT
45 must have dirt on a lot of people! Cruz, Graham, Paul, they all changed their tunes. THAT must be why he is so very worried and talking about Obama having him under surveillance. I think he truly believes everyone does the same things he does or has done ! |
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