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Post by sam9 on Aug 14, 2020 15:34:08 GMT
I am 100% for mask wearing and am totally compliant (masks are mandatory in all public indoor spaces here), for the simple reason that while they may not be perfect, they’re the best "added layer" we have at the moment and it’s easy enough to comply.
My province announced this week that students will be required to wear masks in class, grade 5 and up. Not even taking into consideration that grade 5 seems arbitrary, I totally disagree with the policy in general. Not because kids aren’t capable of wearing masks, they definitely are, but because I don’t think that wearing the same cloth mask all day is useful. They’ll quickly become wet from talking and I doubt that anyone will be changing them out during the day. Never mind all the "on and offs" for drinking and eating. To me this is just a look good measure. If it’s safe to go back in person, face masks should not be necessary.
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Post by shescrafty on Aug 14, 2020 16:01:24 GMT
I think students should have a change of mask in their lunch box or backpack for mid-day. While I will be teaching virtually, I fully expect when we do go back masks will be required as an added safety measure. I hope they are required for all students, not just older ones.
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Post by psiluvu on Aug 14, 2020 16:53:18 GMT
I think the grade requirement should be even younger. I also think parents should send a second mask to change at lunch time. Parents send an extra pair of mitts in theh winter or indoor shoes not sure why an extra mask would be difficult.
I think kids are a lot more adaptable than we give them credit for. Wearing a mask should be just as rountine as a hat in winter
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 14, 2020 16:56:51 GMT
I am glad that our kids will be wearing masks when they go back. I just hope that the school also has some requirements about what types of masks they will allow. I have seen too many people wearing the gaiter style masks, particularly kids, because they say they are more comfortable. But they have been shown to be worse than wearing no mask at all. I wouldn't be happy if half of the kids showed up for school in those.
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on Aug 14, 2020 17:02:53 GMT
I think the grade requirement should be even younger. I also think parents should send a second mask to change at lunch time. Parents send an extra pair of mitts in theh winter or indoor shoes not sure why an extra mask would be difficult. I think kids are a lot more adaptable than we give them credit for. Wearing a mask should be just as rountine as a hat in winter My son's day care wears masks for anytime they can't distance. All the kids have been great about it- they are 4-6 years old. We send two and they change at lunch. My son loves wearing a mask- he thinks it is a great fashion accessory which has the added bonus of ninja stealth. I don't think that masks are perfect and I think kids will contaminate them and themselves all day fiddling with them, but they are a good reminder to distance, not touch their face and wash hands, and well- they are what we have at this moment. |
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 14, 2020 17:34:44 GMT
I agree, the grade requirement should be younger. I don't go into many stores, I can count on one hand how many times I've been in a store in the last few months. But I see young kids (3-5 yrs old) wearing masks quite often and frankly, they seem to be coping better than some adults.
As far as wearing it all day, send 2. Change at lunch.
It's really quite simple.
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2020 17:37:30 GMT
Major point of concern for many teachers here. We have so many anti-maskers who will send their kids to school ready to find any way possible to be non compliant.
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Post by leannec on Aug 14, 2020 17:42:14 GMT
Here in Calgary, the public school board is requiring everyone to wear masks ... I agree that we should change to a new one at lunch but you know that is not going to happen for most people  Kids will be kids  |
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Post by sam9 on Aug 14, 2020 18:03:44 GMT
My kids are not snowflakes - they are more than able to wear a mask. They wear catcher masks in 40°, hockey masks, goalie masks, heavy sports padding with no problems. That is not the issue. Masks have been shown to be totally ineffective when they’re wet. One change at lunch time is not going to accomplish anything, except to give a false sense of security and possibly make social distancing less of a priority. I am not happy with the situation and would prefer a no mask policy and more social distancing and hand washing. I’ve seen the way people behave when they’re wearing masks - as though they are suddenly magically protected.
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Post by lbp on Aug 14, 2020 18:10:48 GMT
Good luck getting some kids to wear them. I just made 10 masks for my co-workers kindergarten grandson. He came in today to try them on and took them off after about 15 seconds saying he hates them! He has considered very mildly autistic so maybe that is why and attends some special classes in the past. Not sure how they will handle this but he has them.
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Post by teddyw on Aug 14, 2020 18:15:43 GMT
I am 100% for mask wearing and am totally compliant (masks are mandatory in all public indoor spaces here), for the simple reason that while they may not be perfect, they’re the best "added layer" we have at the moment and it’s easy enough to comply. My province announced this week that students will be required to wear masks in class, grade 5 and up. Not even taking into consideration that grade 5 seems arbitrary, I totally disagree with the policy in general. Not because kids aren’t capable of wearing masks, they definitely are, but because I don’t think that wearing the same cloth mask all day is useful. They’ll quickly become wet from talking and I doubt that anyone will be changing them out during the day. Never mind all the "on and offs" for drinking and eating. To me this is just a look good measure. If it’s safe to go back in person, face masks should not be necessary. I’m a nurse. I wore a cloth mask for 5 straight hours the other day. It was not wet at all. I did not eat or drink or ever take it off either. So unless kids are spitting in them I don’t think that’s a worry. |
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Post by milocat on Aug 14, 2020 18:15:47 GMT
Here it's grades 4-12 have to wear masks. I agree with the logic of that, what if you have one over and one under. Yes the younger one can wear a mask but when everyone else isn't. Here you only habe to wear a mask when you can't social distance, in common areas like hallways etc. Classrooms won't be a problem for DD, her class sizes are 7-20 students. Our school board said start and end times may be staggered, not sure if our school is doing that. DD and I have discussed how few will be handling their masks properly. Bunching them in their pocket when they are off and then putting them back on.
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Post by sam9 on Aug 14, 2020 18:19:21 GMT
I am 100% for mask wearing and am totally compliant (masks are mandatory in all public indoor spaces here), for the simple reason that while they may not be perfect, they’re the best "added layer" we have at the moment and it’s easy enough to comply. My province announced this week that students will be required to wear masks in class, grade 5 and up. Not even taking into consideration that grade 5 seems arbitrary, I totally disagree with the policy in general. Not because kids aren’t capable of wearing masks, they definitely are, but because I don’t think that wearing the same cloth mask all day is useful. They’ll quickly become wet from talking and I doubt that anyone will be changing them out during the day. Never mind all the "on and offs" for drinking and eating. To me this is just a look good measure. If it’s safe to go back in person, face masks should not be necessary. I’m a nurse. I wore a cloth mask for 5 straight hours the other day. It was not wet at all. I did not eat or drink or ever take it off either. So unless kids are spitting in them I don’t think that’s a worry. I wear a cloth mask for only an hour at a time and it gets all damp. And I never really talk while wearing one. Kids will be talking while in class. |
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Post by Merge on Aug 14, 2020 20:13:30 GMT
So in schools where distancing is not possible due to lack of space, and hand washing facilities are limited, we should just ... give up and go with it? Rather than requiring a mask?
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Post by Lexica on Aug 14, 2020 20:21:00 GMT
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Post by maryland on Aug 14, 2020 20:28:57 GMT
I think students should have a change of mask in their lunch box or backpack for mid-day. While I will be teaching virtually, I fully expect when we do go back masks will be required as an added safety measure. I hope they are required for all students, not just older ones. Thanks for suggesting changing masks in the middle of the day. I was planning to have my daughter wear a new mask every day, but I am going to have her switch at lunchtime. I hope they are required for all students too! |
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Post by maryland on Aug 14, 2020 20:34:33 GMT
I agree, the grade requirement should be younger. I don't go into many stores, I can count on one hand how many times I've been in a store in the last few months. But I see young kids (3-5 yrs old) wearing masks quite often and frankly, they seem to be coping better than some adults. As far as wearing it all day, send 2. Change at lunch. It's really quite simple. Yes, kids I see at stores are amazing! They are a good role model for many adults that don't want to wear masks. They aren't whining, and I have to say, kid behavior at stores has been so good since they have been wearing masks. I want to thank each kid and tell them what a wonderful job they and their parents are doing!
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Aug 14, 2020 21:10:38 GMT
Our Superintendent said this week, that regardless of age, every child in our schools will wear a mask. From pre-school to high school. He told parents “if you don’t agree then your child can learn remotely and I’m fine if you want to take me to court over it. If I could applauded on Zoom I would have.
He told parents “if your kids don’t like wearing masks, have them start practicing now”
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Aug 14, 2020 21:21:44 GMT
I really am amazed at the number of small children I see at Costco wearing masks, and wearing them properly and without fiddling with them. Granted, they're not in Costco for hours at a time, but it does show that many kids can at least wear a mask properly and not pitch a fit about it.
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 14, 2020 21:25:21 GMT
I’m a nurse. I wore a cloth mask for 5 straight hours the other day. It was not wet at all. I did not eat or drink or ever take it off either. So unless kids are spitting in them I don’t think that’s a worry. I wear a cloth mask for only an hour at a time and it gets all damp. And I never really talk while wearing one. Kids will be talking while in class. I wear a mask every day in court hearings which require lots of talking. I’ve never had my mask get wet. |
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Post by mrssmith on Aug 14, 2020 21:43:55 GMT
My friend is a daycare director and the 2 year olds wear masks indoors. If 2 year olds can do it, so can older kids. In my state, kids 2 and up have to be masked. I think the grade 3 or grade 5 and up is so weird. Wouldn't it be easier to have the whole school do it and not have to police by grade.
My son talks a lot so his mask gets wet. I'd have to send him with about 4 of them. He's 9.
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Post by stacmac on Aug 14, 2020 21:50:44 GMT
I'm a teacher in Australia. Before we went to stage 4 lockdown a couple of weeks ago, senior students were still at school and were required to wear masks at all times, apart from eating.
It was totally manageable. Kids took it very seriously and I heard no complaints. Most of them had disposable masks on but a few had cloth. I wear cloth myself and never had any issues. I think the idea of bringing a mask to change is a good idea.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 14, 2020 22:38:51 GMT
My kids are not snowflakes - they are more than able to wear a mask. They wear catcher masks in 40°, hockey masks, goalie masks, heavy sports padding with no problems. That is not the issue. Masks have been shown to be totally ineffective when they’re wet. One change at lunch time is not going to accomplish anything, except to give a false sense of security and possibly make social distancing less of a priority. I am not happy with the situation and would prefer a no mask policy and more social distancing and hand washing. I’ve seen the way people behave when they’re wearing masks - as though they are suddenly magically protected. I find the opposite. When people aren’t wearing masks they go back to how they normally interact with others. Wearing a mask is a reminder that we are in a pandemic and supposed to be distancing. I’ve also never had a mask get wet and I talk a lot at work. |
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Post by SnoopyFan on Aug 14, 2020 23:13:28 GMT
I wear a cloth mask all day at work (7am-330pm). I take it off for 15 minutes in the morning when I go on break and 30 minutes in the afternoon when I'm on my lunch break. I talk a lot -- I work in customer service -- and my mask stays dry all day. A wet mask isn't even an issue.
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 14, 2020 23:17:10 GMT
Our Superintendent said this week, that regardless of age, every child in our schools will wear a mask. From pre-school to high school. He told parents “if you don’t agree then your child can learn remotely and I’m fine if you want to take me to court over it. If I could applauded on Zoom I would have. He told parents “if your kids don’t like wearing masks, have them start practicing now” Did he address kids with special needs, immuno compromised, cognitive delays? Will they get all of the same services at home? They aren't addressing this in my district. 
I'm glad they've shortened classes the first two weeks because there is no air conditioning in the schools and temperatures are typically 80's-90's.
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Post by seaexplore on Aug 15, 2020 0:11:02 GMT
Major point of concern for many teachers here. We have so many anti-maskers who will send their kids to school ready to find any way possible to be non compliant. Yep. Which is why I’m totally ok doing distance learning this year. |
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 15, 2020 1:01:34 GMT
Our district says masks for everyone. The health department says 20 an c up, but out superintendent says that masks are also there to protect teachers and he can't tell a 2nd grade teacher her life isn't as valuable as a 5th grade teacher.
I've been in trainings all day. This week, fully masked. I ha end had an issue with it getting wet. But could easily change at lunch if needed.
If you are worried for you kid, send two.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 15, 2020 1:14:11 GMT
Our Superintendent said this week, that regardless of age, every child in our schools will wear a mask. From pre-school to high school. He told parents “if you don’t agree then your child can learn remotely and I’m fine if you want to take me to court over it. If I could applauded on Zoom I would have. He told parents “if your kids don’t like wearing masks, have them start practicing now” Did he address kids with special needs, immuno compromised, cognitive delays? Will they get all of the same services at home? They aren't addressing this in my district.
I'm glad they've shortened classes the first two weeks because there is no air conditioning in the schools and temperatures are typically 80's-90's.
if a student can't take their own mask off, they don't have to wear one. Our sped students that are remaining remote will receive services. They will not receive exactly what they received in school but they will still receive services. In some cases the services will go into the home. In others it will be done remotely |
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 15, 2020 1:20:39 GMT
Major point of concern for many teachers here. We have so many anti-maskers who will send their kids to school ready to find any way possible to be non compliant. first time, we give them one, second time they Re sent home. Third time they are enrolled in online learning and may no longer be on campus |
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Post by Merge on Aug 15, 2020 1:58:44 GMT
Major point of concern for many teachers here. We have so many anti-maskers who will send their kids to school ready to find any way possible to be non compliant. first time, we give them one, second time they Re sent home. Third time they are enrolled in online learning and may no longer be on campus I can guarantee that won’t be allowed to happen in Texas. Schools will not be allowed to enforce mask requirements up to the point to removing a child from in-person instruction. |
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