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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 17:29:31 GMT
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Post by 5peanutsnana on Oct 4, 2020 17:39:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 17:43:30 GMT
Look what Biden says. He’s proud to serve this country.
Until trump, I believe, whether I agreed with their policies or not, all the former presidents did believe they were serving this country. In fact they felt it was their duty to do so.
Can you honestly say that about trump?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 17:59:52 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 4, 2020 18:14:28 GMT
I would be interested to hear from people that were at the fundraising events/rallies that Trump held after knowing he was positive/exposed. Are they upset about this? Or is it somehow a badge of honor to be exposed by Trump?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 18:36:12 GMT
This is really a neat picture... BEAUTIFUL!! We lived right there in NJ in a highrise. Our wedding (#1) was outside with NYC as our backdrop. I'll see if I could find a pic...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 18:46:13 GMT
I don't understand why they've given him Dexamethasone if he's doing as well as they are telling everyone. Dexamethasone according to the Oxford scientists who carried out the initial trials of using it for covid-19th in May/June time were particular in saying that it only works on severely and critically ill patients who are already receiving oxygen or are on a ventilator. They seem to be throwing everything they've got at him with no thought of how these drugs work or what consequences will follow. Seems really oddfor any Doctor to do that or they are lying and that he isn't as well as they make out him to be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 18:51:21 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 4, 2020 18:56:27 GMT
Proof yet again dumpster don cares more about money then he does people. If reports are correct , he knew he had tested positive for the virus or at least knew he had been exposed to it and yet to “collect” money he put his own donors/supporters at risk of getting the virus. They paid $250,000 a head for the wonderful experience of being there!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 19:30:20 GMT
Oh goody, just the type of behavior we need from this guy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 19:34:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 19:58:35 GMT
Oh goody, just the type of behavior we need from this guy. The side effects of Dexamethasone is listed as possible mild mood swings and no where near frank mania. It is a steroid but a corticoteroid and nothing like an Anabolic Steroids whichis the steroid associated with mania and aggressiveness. Millions of people take Dexamethasone all over the world and have done so for a very long time. It's been around for years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 20:36:48 GMT
Oh goody, just the type of behavior we need from this guy. The side effects of Dexamethasone is listed as possible mild mood swings and no where near frank mania. It is a steroid but a corticoteroid and nothing like an Anabolic Steroids whichis the steroid associated with mania and aggressiveness. Millions of people take Dexamethasone all over the world and have done so for a very long time. It's been around for years. This is the full thread. This Paul Summergrad is head of psychiatry at Tuffs Medical Center. This is his view.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 20:47:23 GMT
The side effects of Dexamethasone is listed as possible mild mood swings and no where near frank mania. It is a steroid but a corticoteroid and nothing like an Anabolic Steroids whichis the steroid associated with mania and aggressiveness. Millions of people take Dexamethasone all over the world and have done so for a very long time. It's been around for years. This is the full thread. This Paul Summergrad is head of psychiatry at Tuffs Medical Center. This is his view. I read the twitter thread and know that it's his view but that doesn't make it right to make a blanket statement on a drug that can, and has been, proved safe to use without the side affects he mentions in that tweet. I've taken dexamethasone for a very nasty eye infection a couple of years ago and I can assure you that it does not make one manic or depressed when used or prescribed responsibly. It's also a common drug to prescribe to people that suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis as well as other ailments
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 21:06:08 GMT
This is the full thread. This Paul Summergrad is head of psychiatry at Tuffs Medical Center. This is his view. I read the twitter thread and know that it's his view but that doesn't make it right to make a blanket statement on a drug that can, and has been, proved safe to use without the side affects he mentions in that tweet. I've taken dexamethasone for a very nasty eye infection a couple of years ago and I can assure you that it does not make one manic or depressed when used or prescribed responsibly. It's also a common drug to prescribe to people that suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis among other ailments. They have a lot of prescription drug ads on tv here in the US and I hate listening to them. The reason is because after they tell you the benefits of the drug they then go on and list the possible side affects from the drug. They seem to go on forever listing them. The reality is that any drug can cause side affects on some people and not others. The fact that you took the drug and didn’t suffer any side affects doesn’t mean the next person who takes the drug won’t. This shrink that is listing the possible side affects and is not making a blanket statement that all will suffer them who take the drug. And these possible side affects are something that should concern a lot of folks because trump is a president with nuclear codes at his fingertips.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 21:34:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 21:36:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 21:49:45 GMT
I read the twitter thread and know that it's his view but that doesn't make it right to make a blanket statement on a drug that can, and has been, proved safe to use without the side affects he mentions in that tweet. I've taken dexamethasone for a very nasty eye infection a couple of years ago and I can assure you that it does not make one manic or depressed when used or prescribed responsibly. It's also a common drug to prescribe to people that suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis among other ailments. They have a lot of prescription drug ads on tv here in the US and I hate listening to them. The reason is because after they tell you the benefits of the drug they then go on and list the possible side affects from the drug. They seem to go on forever listing them. The reality is that any drug can cause side affects on some people and not others. The fact that you took the drug and didn’t suffer any side affects doesn’t mean the next person who takes the drug won’t. This shrink that is listing the possible side affects and is not making a blanket statement that all will suffer them who take the drug. And these possible side affects are something that should concern a lot of folks because trump is a president with nuclear codes at his fingertips. The thing is, dexamethasone has never been listed with those possible side affects if prescribed correctly. Mild mood swing is listed but that is very different to what he mentioned. Like all steroid drugs they should be monitored and taken at the correct dosage. Even if Trump takes them, it would only be for a very short period of time and it's highly unlikely that he would take them long enough for any serious affects to appear. Dexamethasone is only a lab copy of a hormone that ones body produces naturally. It suppresses your immune system when it goes into overdrive because it can't cope with the infection. Your own body self controls your immune system with most infections. That is why it is used for serious/critical Covid -19 patients to stop their immune system from going into overdrive which in turn attacks the healthy body cells. That tweets is suggesting more serious implications in taking it when there is no cause to do so. Others are being put at risk if they ever need to take this, based on what he is saying about the drug which has consequences if any of them refuse to take it IMO. He's fear mongering about a drug that can actually save peoples lives.
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Post by peasquared on Oct 4, 2020 21:50:13 GMT
Careless disregard for his secret service. WTH
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 21:53:26 GMT
Good god..... what the hell is wrong with these people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 22:26:04 GMT
They have a lot of prescription drug ads on tv here in the US and I hate listening to them. The reason is because after they tell you the benefits of the drug they then go on and list the possible side affects from the drug. They seem to go on forever listing them. The reality is that any drug can cause side affects on some people and not others. The fact that you took the drug and didn’t suffer any side affects doesn’t mean the next person who takes the drug won’t. This shrink that is listing the possible side affects and is not making a blanket statement that all will suffer them who take the drug. And these possible side affects are something that should concern a lot of folks because trump is a president with nuclear codes at his fingertips. The thing is, dexamethasone has never been listed with those possible side affects if prescribed correctly. Mild mood swing is listed but that is very different to what he mentioned. Like all steroid drugs they should be monitored and taken at the correct dosage. Even if Trump takes them, it would only be for a very short period of time and it's highly unlikely that he would take them long enough for any serious affects to appear. Dexamethasone is only a lab copy of a hormone that ones body produces naturally. It suppresses your immune system when it goes into overdrive because it can't cope with the infection. Your own body self controls your immune system with most infections. That is why it is used for serious/critical Covid -19 patients to stop their immune system from going into overdrive which in turn attacks the healthy body cells. That tweets is suggesting more serious implications in taking it when there is no cause to do so. Others are being put at risk if they ever need to take this, based on what he is saying about the drug which has consequences if any of them refuse to take it IMO. He's fear mongering about a drug that can actually save peoples lives. Part of my job before I retired was placing the insurance for drug clinical trials for my companies biotech companies. Because of that I had to obtain copies of the drug’s protocols along with the consent form potential subjects of the trial had to sign. On both forms were the possible side affects of the drug. After each phase of the trials the protocols were amended with the data obtained from the previous phase of the trial. After the final phase is completed the protocols are updated and turned over to the FDA for approval to start using on the general public. The reason I’m giving you this example is because of the opioids scandal of a couple of years ago. Doctors were over prescribing opioids and people were becoming addicted to them. Come to find out that several big drug companies were less than honest about long term use of pain drugs and how easy it was to become addicted to them. I suspect that information was in one stage of the protocols and after the drugs were approved the drug companies neglected to tell the doctors and maybe the FDA. Or who knows. But I can’t believe they would go through a minimum of three phases of clinical trials and not encounter the addiction problem. A couple of the drug companies were sued by some states and ended up settling by paying millions of dollars. So it’s entirely possible this US doctor had access to information via protocols that is not available in the UK. Or maybe this Dr. Summergrad is blowing smoke. But I have to say whatever confidence I had in drug companies being upfront with possible side affects because of the process they have to go through to get a drug approved was shaken by this opioids thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 22:31:53 GMT
Apparently trump’s joy ride isn’t going over to well. But once again we are reminded it’s all about him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 22:36:43 GMT
The thing is, dexamethasone has never been listed with those possible side affects if prescribed correctly. Mild mood swing is listed but that is very different to what he mentioned. Like all steroid drugs they should be monitored and taken at the correct dosage. Even if Trump takes them, it would only be for a very short period of time and it's highly unlikely that he would take them long enough for any serious affects to appear. Dexamethasone is only a lab copy of a hormone that ones body produces naturally. It suppresses your immune system when it goes into overdrive because it can't cope with the infection. Your own body self controls your immune system with most infections. That is why it is used for serious/critical Covid -19 patients to stop their immune system from going into overdrive which in turn attacks the healthy body cells. That tweets is suggesting more serious implications in taking it when there is no cause to do so. Others are being put at risk if they ever need to take this, based on what he is saying about the drug which has consequences if any of them refuse to take it IMO. He's fear mongering about a drug that can actually save peoples lives. So it’s entirely possible this US doctor had access to information via protocols that is not available in the UK. . I think Oxford, who discovered that this drug was suitable for serious/critical Covid-19 patients would have been very thorough in their trials and would have known all there was to know about the drug before they released their approval to our regulators to be used on Covid-19 patients. No doubt that the UK regulators would have known everything about it too, before it was initially licensed here many years ago.
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Post by sam9 on Oct 4, 2020 22:38:49 GMT
Fidel Castro riding around and waving to the faithful.
ETA: I'm surprised he didn't get out to shake hands with people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 23:05:47 GMT
I don’t doubt what you are saying about Oxford etc , but the guy who made the comment about a potential side affect is not a quack either. Mayo Clinic. - linkDexamethasone (Oral Route) Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention. Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur: More common Aggression agitation anxiety blurred vision decrease in the amount of urine dizziness fast, slow, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse headache irritability mental depression mood changes nervousness noisy, rattling breathing numbness or tingling in the arms or legs pounding in the ears swelling of the fingers, hands, feet, or lower legs trouble thinking, speaking, or walking troubled breathing at rest weight gain Incidence not known Abdominal or stomach cramping and/or burning (severe) or pain backache bloody, black, or tarry stools cough or hoarseness darkening of the skin decrease in height decreased vision diarrhea dry mouth eye pain eye tearing facial hair growth in females fainting fatigue fever or chills flushed, dry skin fractures fruit-like breath odor full or round face, neck, or trunk heartburn and/or indigestion (severe and continuous) increased hunger increased thirst increased urination loss of appetite loss of sexual desire or ability lower back or side pain menstrual irregularities muscle pain or tenderness muscle wasting or weakness nausea pain in the back, ribs, arms, or legs painful or difficult urination skin rash sleeplessness sweating trouble healing trouble sleeping unexplained weight loss unusual tiredness or weakness vision changes vomiting vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds Some side effects may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them: More common Increased appetite Incidence not known Abnormal fat deposits on the face, neck, and trunk acne dry scalp lightening of normal skin color red face reddish purple lines on the arms, face, legs, trunk, or groin swelling of the stomach area thinning of the scalp hair Other side effects not listed may also occur in some patients. If you notice any other effects, check with your healthcare professional. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to the FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088.
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Post by wholarmor on Oct 4, 2020 23:39:24 GMT
My dog gets dexamethasone eye drops every day. This is the full thread. This Paul Summergrad is head of psychiatry at Tuffs Medical Center. This is his view. I read the twitter thread and know that it's his view but that doesn't make it right to make a blanket statement on a drug that can, and has been, proved safe to use without the side affects he mentions in that tweet. I've taken dexamethasone for a very nasty eye infection a couple of years ago and I can assure you that it does not make one manic or depressed when used or prescribed responsibly. It's also a common drug to prescribe to people that suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis as well as other ailments
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Post by wholarmor on Oct 4, 2020 23:41:54 GMT
Fidel Castro riding around and waving to the faithful. ETA: I'm surprised he didn't get out to shake hands with people. He said he had met some of the military people in the hospital. I hope they kept him far apart. They don't let regular people visit others in the hospital- let alone someone with positive coronavirus.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 4, 2020 23:52:17 GMT
They have a lot of prescription drug ads on tv here in the US and I hate listening to them. The reason is because after they tell you the benefits of the drug they then go on and list the possible side affects from the drug. They seem to go on forever listing them. The reality is that any drug can cause side affects on some people and not others. The fact that you took the drug and didn’t suffer any side affects doesn’t mean the next person who takes the drug won’t. This shrink that is listing the possible side affects and is not making a blanket statement that all will suffer them who take the drug. And these possible side affects are something that should concern a lot of folks because trump is a president with nuclear codes at his fingertips. The thing is, dexamethasone has never been listed with those possible side affects if prescribed correctly. Mild mood swing is listed but that is very different to what he mentioned. Like all steroid drugs they should be monitored and taken at the correct dosage. Even if Trump takes them, it would only be for a very short period of time and it's highly unlikely that he would take them long enough for any serious affects to appear. Dexamethasone is only a lab copy of a hormone that ones body produces naturally. It suppresses your immune system when it goes into overdrive because it can't cope with the infection. Your own body self controls your immune system with most infections. That is why it is used for serious/critical Covid -19 patients to stop their immune system from going into overdrive which in turn attacks the healthy body cells. That tweets is suggesting more serious implications in taking it when there is no cause to do so. Others are being put at risk if they ever need to take this, based on what he is saying about the drug which has consequences if any of them refuse to take it IMO. He's fear mongering about a drug that can actually save peoples lives. My husband was on Decadron (dexamethasone) when he was diagnosed with a met to the brain and undergoing targeted radiation. I did some reading about it then and while it can be and is used successfully for a lot of reasons, there are also lots of horror stories about it, the side effects and getting off of it. It is not always as benign as people think.
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Post by Belle on Oct 5, 2020 0:00:39 GMT
How did the bystanders on the side of the road know that Trump would be driving by???
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