Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Nov 3, 2014 17:06:05 GMT
I wanted to order something for DH from the Packers Store online for Christmas. It's something we can't get here. But holy hell - the MINIMUM shipping charge to Canada is $35!!!!! So I thought I'd order it, and just have it shipped to BIL's in California. But no - international orders cannot be paid for with a credit card with a billing address that is different from the shipping address, whether that shipping address is in the U.S. or Canada (or any other country).
grr. I am lucky that I can ask BIL to just buy the damned thing for me and I'll pay him back, but it is ridiculous that they would charge that much to ship a small, light item to Canada.
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Post by freebird on Nov 3, 2014 17:10:20 GMT
Honestly, international shipping is ridiculous. We sell jewelry online and to ship a RING overseas costs us around $40.00 I CAN ship for less, but then I lose all tracking and insurance. Then there's the fact that there's always a bunch of extra paperwork you have to do. I hate international orders.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 17:16:33 GMT
Yes, shipping is ridiculous and I'm totally DONE with online stores who won't accept PayPal or credit cards from non-US addresses. So stupid and irritating.
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Post by quiltz on Nov 3, 2014 18:04:27 GMT
I have a US$ TDCanadaTrust Credit Card. I also have an Ann Taylor MasterCard, Kohl's, Macy's and Bloomingdales cards.
I have never had a problem with the address not the same as to where it is being shipped to.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:06:40 GMT
I have a US$ TDCanadaTrust Credit Card. I also have an Ann Taylor MasterCard, Kohl's, Macy's and Bloomingdales cards. I have never had a problem with the address not the same as to where it is being shipped to. Where do you shop from? Old Navy US, and Dollar Tree are two stores I've tried to order from recently (the past month) that would not take my money.
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Post by Nanner on Nov 3, 2014 18:09:10 GMT
I have a US$ TDCanadaTrust Credit Card. I also have an Ann Taylor MasterCard, Kohl's, Macy's and Bloomingdales cards. I have never had a problem with the address not the same as to where it is being shipped to. This is the Packers store. Here's what they say: "The Packers Pro Shop does not accept Charge Card orders originated by an International Customer that ships to a different International or Domestic (Continental United States) recipient."
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Nov 3, 2014 18:19:13 GMT
I have a US$ TDCanadaTrust Credit Card. I also have an Ann Taylor MasterCard, Kohl's, Macy's and Bloomingdales cards. I have never had a problem with the address not the same as to where it is being shipped to. Where do you shop from? Old Navy US, and Dollar Tree are two stores I've tried to order from recently (the past month) that would not take my money. There are lots of online places in the U.S. that won't ship to Canada at all, or charge prohibitive shipping because they really don't want to, and hope that the ridiculous shipping charges will deter people from outside the country ordering. Lana, I'm not ignoring your post. I'm not sure how you are shipping it. I do know that I have ordered items the same size and weight as the thing I want to get for DH and shipping came to nothing near $35. Even adding on the cost of supplies, it's still nowhere even close. I also noticed that the Packers Shop's minimum shipping charge to Europe is between $50 and $65, depending on which country.
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Post by padresfan619 on Nov 3, 2014 18:21:08 GMT
That stinks that they won't let you use one address for billing and one for shipping. What if it was a gift for your BIL?! You'd have to pay shipping twice!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:27:12 GMT
Where do you shop from? Old Navy US, and Dollar Tree are two stores I've tried to order from recently (the past month) that would not take my money. There are lots of online places in the U.S. that won't ship to Canada at all, or charge prohibitive shipping because they really don't want to, and hope that the ridiculous shipping charges will deter people from outside the country ordering. True. But I have a US address, and want to pay for things from Canada and have them mailed to the US. There is NO reasonable reason why I shouldn't be able to do this. Many online retailers DO allow it, so going through the whole shopping process to find out that a store won't allow it is really irritating.
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Post by quiltz on Nov 3, 2014 18:39:43 GMT
I have shopped from Toys R US (USA), Amazon (USA), can't remember all of them. I don't do a lot of on-line USA shopping on-line but sometimes have them shipped to my USA address with my Canadian address on Credit Card.
The only one that won't do this is Lego USA, as they are particular about their shipping and will only ship to an address, not a depot of sorts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:43:19 GMT
There are lots of online places in the U.S. that won't ship to Canada at all, or charge prohibitive shipping because they really don't want to, and hope that the ridiculous shipping charges will deter people from outside the country ordering. True. But I have a US address, and want to pay for things from Canada and have them mailed to the US. There is NO reasonable reason why I shouldn't be able to do this. Many online retailers DO allow it, so going through the whole shopping process to find out that a store won't allow it is really irritating. We don't allow it because our system is set up for US addresses only. We don't sell to other countries at all even for billing. They aren't going to change our customized ordering programs to include billing addresses for a different country. It just isn't cost efficient or worth it. Then threre are different tax issues to handle too.
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Post by leannec on Nov 3, 2014 18:43:37 GMT
It makes no sense ... we are a global economy with the internet and secured credit cards ... Businesses should be looking to expand not making it prohibitive to international customers 
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:44:08 GMT
Sorry, but if other major online retails can do it, there's no real reason not to. Taxes aren't any more of an issue than when shipping to different states that have different taxes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:45:33 GMT
It makes no sense ... we are a global economy with the internet and secured credit cards ... Businesses should be looking to expand not making it prohibitive to international customers  I know my company used to have international channels but it wasn't profitable. For many it just isn't worth it to overhaul their entire systems for a small percentage pf orders. Customized programs are expensive and take years to get in place and then train people on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:47:11 GMT
Sorry, but if other major online retails can do it, there's no real reason not to. Taxes aren't any more of an issue than when shipping to different states that have different taxes. And disagree. I see what is going into a complete new ordering system. It costs millions and takes years to make and then test and train. My company has decided that US shoppers are where their profits are.
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Post by quiltz on Nov 3, 2014 19:17:13 GMT
I just ordered from the Yankee Candle website the Yankee Candle Advent Calendar. The price was $24.99. Had it shipped to my USA address (shipping was $5.99) but they would ship to Canada ($20.00) They accepted my USA address to ship and my Canadian address as the credit card info. No problems.
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Post by anniefb on Nov 3, 2014 19:33:55 GMT
Drives me crazy too (I'm in New Zealand). I have a US shipping address and sometimes get things forwarded. Thankfully there are a lot more places that accept international orders now but the no international credit card thing is annoying if you want to buy a gift for someone in the US.
I have found a few places will accept phone orders though (for gift cards etc). I guess it's just that their systems aren't set up for non US cards.
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Nov 3, 2014 19:55:27 GMT
Oh don't get me started on this either... I'm not sure whom to blame, the Canadian and Provincial Governments or the US Federal Government. I just know YEARS AGO IT WAS NOT THIS HARD OR EXPENSIVE.  We found out the method that is actually CHEAPEST, quickest and less hassle, is to have someone just cross the border and visit. (Best if they drive rather than fly.) DS plans on being down for U.S. Thanksgiving, and his grandmother's birthday.
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Post by gloryjoy on Nov 3, 2014 20:28:15 GMT
It's annoying for sure.
I live 10 minutes from the US border, 15 minutes from Blaine, Washington. It's big business down there to rent post boxes to Canadians, and there are companies that will take your shipments and hold them for thirty days.
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Post by Nanner on Nov 3, 2014 21:02:00 GMT
It's annoying for sure. I live 10 minutes from the US border, 15 minutes from Blaine, Washington. It's big business down there to rent post boxes to Canadians, and there are companies that will take your shipments and hold them for thirty days. That's what I'd do if we lived closer to the border. I'm about 3.5 hours away. My parents used to be about 10 minutes from the border and went across all the time. Mind you, that was before there was such a thing as online shopping.
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Post by sweetandsour on Nov 3, 2014 21:02:02 GMT
I have never tried this myself *AND* she did it a few years ago, but a former colleague got a secondary (US) shipping address added to her credit card profile so she could have a US billing and shipping address.
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Post by freebird on Nov 3, 2014 21:04:23 GMT
I bet you could find the same thing on ebay and cheaper at that!
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 3, 2014 21:09:47 GMT
I have a US$ TDCanadaTrust Credit Card. I also have an Ann Taylor MasterCard, Kohl's, Macy's and Bloomingdales cards. I have never had a problem with the address not the same as to where it is being shipped to. Where do you shop from? Old Navy US, and Dollar Tree are two stores I've tried to order from recently (the past month) that would not take my money. dollar tree has an online store?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 21:11:23 GMT
Where do you shop from? Old Navy US, and Dollar Tree are two stores I've tried to order from recently (the past month) that would not take my money. dollar tree has an online store? Yes, they do! And I was excited because they have cases of gold streamers for 1.00 a roll that they don't carry in the stores near me (both US and Canadian locations). Had big Christmas plans!
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Post by msbee on Nov 4, 2014 2:25:40 GMT
My company ships to many countries around the world. One of the things we run into is people who don't want to put the import duties/taxes. Some countries require us to pay duties when our package arrives at their port. We have to pay those duties whether or not the customer ever pays us for the duties or not.
Then there is the hit or miss duty charges. I have had customers tell me I haven't been charged duties for the last 5 packages and they dinged me 25 bucks for this one. Most countries have a formula or table you can turn to in order to figure out what duties you will pay when you order something shipped to Canada. With Canadian orders we never know how much the customer will be charged or if they will be charged. We don't collect and remit import duty/taxes for Canada.
There is also that whole fraud issue. We see a lot of fraud orders being sent over seas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 2:30:06 GMT
msbee, I don't understand why your company would be charged for duties incurred at the destination company? Any time I've ordered from a company from outside of Canada it has been very clear that the charges are mine to pay -- and the few times I've had to pay taxes and fees, the bill has come to my door and I can't pick up/receive my package until I pay for it?
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Post by msbee on Nov 4, 2014 2:41:32 GMT
Ashley in Canada if the customer doesn't pay the taxes and fees we have to pay to ship it back. I know there is at least one country we ship to that we have to pay the taxes and fees even if the customer refuses the package. Some countries if the customer refuses to pay the taxes and fees we have to pay to have it sent back to us as they don't allow us to abandon or destroy. We are continuously evaluating if we can keep shipping to countries that have those policies. It costs us a lot of money to ship items both ways.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 2:44:24 GMT
Ashley in Canada if the customer doesn't pay the taxes and fees we have to pay to ship it back. I know there is at least one country we ship to that we have to pay the taxes and fees even if the customer refuses the package. Some countries if the customer refuses to pay the taxes and fees we have to pay to have it sent back to us as they don't allow us to abandon or destroy. We are continuously evaluating if we can keep shipping to countries that have those policies. It costs us a lot of money to ship items both ways. Wow, that's awful! I had no idea! That's totally not right.
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Post by Nanner on Nov 4, 2014 2:54:40 GMT
Ashley in Canada if the customer doesn't pay the taxes and fees we have to pay to ship it back. I know there is at least one country we ship to that we have to pay the taxes and fees even if the customer refuses the package. Some countries if the customer refuses to pay the taxes and fees we have to pay to have it sent back to us as they don't allow us to abandon or destroy. We are continuously evaluating if we can keep shipping to countries that have those policies. It costs us a lot of money to ship items both ways. Wow, that's awful! I had no idea! That's totally not right. I didn't know that either. I know that when I order from the U.S. sometimes I get charged duty and sometimes I don't. Any time I order, it always has to be worth it to me to pay duty if I get charged it. DD bought a dress from the U.S. It wasn't inexpensive, and had a hefty shipping price. Then she got charged duty. And on top of that, the dress didn't fit right so she had to get it altered. She ended up paying more than double the price of the dress when all was said and done.
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Post by anniefb on Nov 4, 2014 2:59:50 GMT
Customs duties and GST (sales tax) shouldn't be an issue for New Zealand and Australia unless it's a reasonably high value order ($400 for NZ and $1000 for Australia).
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