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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 7:01:38 GMT
Tonight trump participated in a Town Hall Meeting sponsored by ABC. ABC has released the written transcript. linkI did not watch it but looked at a couple of videos attached to tweets. One exchange had me yelling at my poor iPad. It was this one... “STEPHANOPOULOS: Next question's on healthcare. It comes from Alycee Block. She's from Philadelphia, an assistant professor who voted for Hillary Clinton last time. BLOCK: Hi. TRUMP: Hi. BLOCK: Mr. President, I was born with a disease called sarcoidosis, and from the day I was born, I was considerable uninsurable. That disease started in my skin, moved to my eyes, into my optic nerves, and when I went to graduate school, into my brain. When it hit my brain, I was automatically eligible for disability for the rest of my life. I chose instead to get a bachelor's degree, a master's degree, a Ph.D. and become a professor. TRUMP: That’s great. BLOCK: It is great, except I still have similar healthcare problems. It costs me -- with co-pays, I'm still paying almost $7,000 a year in addition to the co-pay. And should preexisting conditions, which ObamaCare brought into…brought to fruition be removed? TRUMP: No. BLOCK: Please stop and let me finish my question, sir. Should that be removed? Within a 36 to 72-hour period, without my medication, I will be dead.And I want to know what it is that you're going to do assure that people like me who work hard, we do everything we're supposed to do can stay insured. It's not my fault that I was born with this disease. It's not my fault that I'm a black woman, and in the medical community I'm minimized and not taken seriously. I want to know what you are going to do about that. TRUMP: So first of all, you are taken seriously. I hope you are. And we are not going to hurt anything having to do with preexisting conditions. We're not going to hurt preexisting conditions. And, in fact, just the opposite. If you look at what they want to do, where they have socialized medicine, they will get rid of preexisting conditions, if they go into Medicare for All, which is socialized medicine, and you can forget about your doctors and your plans, just like you could forget under President Obama. He said, you can have your doctor. You can have your plan. And that turned out to be a lie, and he said it 28 different times at least. We have 28 different times. You can have your doctor. You can have your plan. Well, it's not true. But what we’re doing is, we’re going to be doing a healthcare plan – preexisting, protecting people with preexisting conditions -- as an example, yourself, it sounds like that’s exactly perfect. That’s exactly what we’re talking about. We’re going to be doing a healthcare plan very strongly and protect people with preexisting conditions.
I will say this, they will not do that, because they have socialized… STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. President, I have to stop you there… TRUMP: George, they have socialized… STEPHANOPOULOS: I just have to stop you there, because it’s just on a couple of points. Number one, Joe Biden has ran against Medicare for All in the primaries. But much more importantly, Obamacare guaranteed people with preexisting conditions could buy insurance, guaranteed they could buy it at the same price as everyone else, guaranteed a package of essential benefits, guaranteed that insurance companies couldn’t put a lifetime limit on those benefits.
You fought to repeal Obamacare, you are arguing… TRUMP: Well, I essentially did, because… STEPHANOPOULOS: You’re arguing the Supreme Court right now to strike it down, that would do away with preexisting conditions. TRUMP: No. STEPHANOPOULOS: You’ve promised… TRUMP: So that we can do new healthcare.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But you’ve been promising a new healthcare plan.
We interviewed – I interviewed you in June of last year, you said the healthcare plan would come in two weeks. You could Chris Wallace that this summer it’d come in three weeks. You promised an executive order on preexisting…
TRUMP: I have it all ready. I have it all ready.STEPHANOPOULOS: But it’s…you’ve been trying to strike down preexisting conditions… TRUMP: It doesn’t matter. I have it all ready, and it’s a much better plan for you, and it’s a much better plan.
STEPHANOPOULOS: What is it? TRUMP: And when you say Obamacare, I got rid of the individual mandate, which is the worst part of Obamacare…STEPHANOPOULOS: You’re striking down the whole law. TRUMP: …which wouldn’t be…pertain to you, but it’d pertain to a lot of people. Where they were going literally bust because they didn’t want to have health insurance, and they were paying for it anyway, and it was no good. Obamacare was a disaster. Obamacare is too expensive, the premiums are too high. It’s a total disaster. You’re going to have new healthcare, and the preexisting condition aspect of it will always be in my plan. And I’ve said that loud and clear… STEPHANOPOULOS: But you haven’t come up with it. TRUMP: And we got rid of the individual mandate, which essentially ended Obamacare. And I had a decision… STEPHANOPOULOS: Only because you’re arguing for it. TRUMP: George, I had a decision to make. Do I run? We got it out, the worst parts of Obamacare. Now I have to make this decision. This is three years ago. Do we run Obamacare well, and do a good job and do the best, even though it’s never going to be very good. Or, do we let it run badly?Probably letting it run badly would have been a better political decision, but I couldn’t do that. We have run it so much better than Obama ran it. Now, it’s not the same because I got rid of the most unpopular thing -- and a very unfair thing which is the individual mandate -- STEPHANOPOULOS: You’re trying to strike down the whole law. TRUMP: George, we have run it really well. But we also have now other… if you go to Department of Labor, a great secretary, as you know -- and you know him well…we have other alternatives to Obamacare that are 50 percent less expensive, and they’re actually better. STEPHANOPOULOS: It’s been three and a half years. TRUMP: George, it’s been forty years since you had good healthcare – you’ve never really had good healthcare in this country. This country has never had it.But when you say that Biden doesn’t want to do it – everybody else does. Bernie does, he agreed to the manifesto, as I call it -- the agreement with Bernie is that you’re going to go to socialized medicine. STEPHANOPOULOS: He ran against Medicare for All. TRUMP: If you go to socialized medicine…well, he agreed. And Harris,who he today said Harris-Biden, because he thinks she’s president. Harris, and someday you’ll have to explain that to me – but Harris is all for doing that. She wants to go to socialized medicine. So, you no longer have your doctor really, and you no longer have your plan. And Joe can say all he wants -- he’s only doing it because he sees his poll numbers going down so substantially. But Joe can say all he wants about healthcare. You know, Obamacare has been a failure from day one. It’s too expensive, whether it’s the premium or whether it’s the cost generally. And they don’t have their doctors, and they don’t have their plans. We’re going to have a very good healthcare. I think maybe a great healthcare for less money.” Twice trump says he has it all ready. I’m assuming he is talking about a replacement for the ACA. Well if that is the case why doesn’t he share it with us? What’s he waiting for? Listening and then reading his fumbling answer it’s clear he doesn’t understand what was in the ACA or how insurance works. IMO trump, as a candidate running for re-election, has nothing to run on, no accomplishments, done nothing to benefit the “little guy, he has done nothing positive to benefit all Americans, nothing.
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 16, 2020 9:59:09 GMT
That did not make any sense at all.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2020 10:45:43 GMT
These trump nonsensical , lying rants are the things pixiechick is ignoring on another thread Trump is a walking talking disaster
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Post by yodutchess on Sept 16, 2020 11:33:29 GMT
I cheered for her when he interrupted her, and she let him have it to finish speaking. He did not make any sense. I could see it on the face of the gentleman who asked the question about racial problems. My fear is that he continues to say whatever and it does not matter. Remember that Hillary ran circles around him in the debates in 2016, Yet we woke up the day after Election Day in 2016 to him and not her.
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Post by lisae on Sept 16, 2020 11:42:49 GMT
Since when does healthcare fall under the Department of Labor?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 16, 2020 11:53:52 GMT
I can’t stand to listen to him speak, but when I do listen to him (or read transcripts) it is pretty clear that he isn’t always blustering. He doesn’t understand the fundamentals of the job, the country, or any of the issues that we are dealing with. And he doesn’t care that he doesn’t understand.
For all of these years I have been trying to hear Trump supporters’ reasons for backing him. I kept waiting for some “aha” moment that would make even a little sense. But that hasn’t happened. And the longer this goes on the less likely it is that will happen. I’ve decided that I will never understand their support because to me, there is no good reason. Trying to understand just leads to more frustration and worse feeling towards those people, so no more.
It sounds like there were several more lies in the town hall as well. Also, Bob Woodward was on tv the other day and listening to the tapes from his interview was eye opening as well. He said that he doesn’t think trump understands what is real and what isn’t and that was evident in the tapes. And that is scary.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2020 12:03:43 GMT
This was so bad for him—a total clusterfuck—that our local Fox News station has not even mentioned, replayed, said boo about it, and I’ve been watching the news since 5 am!!! LMAO
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Post by elaine on Sept 16, 2020 12:32:05 GMT
Trump’s continued claims about Healthcare and his inability to provide any replacement for Obamacare over 4 years is just one glaring example or his, and his administration’s, incompetence. The Democratic Party should focus on that in the campaign ads.
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Post by casii on Sept 16, 2020 12:39:48 GMT
Well Trump social media is saying he was ambushed.
I agree, he has no understanding of the job, never had a desire to learn, doesn't care. Worse, his declining function means he can only speak in "Word Salad".
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Post by Really Red on Sept 16, 2020 12:47:20 GMT
Oh my god. He is an unmitigated disaster who cannot string a few words together to make a coherent sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 13:16:01 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
”Paul Tubiana of Bethlehem, PA was the first questioner at the ABC town hall.
He said this about Trump's response after: "He didn't answer anything. He was lying through his teeth." cnn.it/2ZKPsul”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 13:17:33 GMT
Phillip Bump...
”During the ABC town hall, Trump was asked about a mask mandate and why he doesn't wear one.
His responses? - Biden didn't implement a mandate - Waiters don't like masks - Experts used to say no one should wear them”
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 16, 2020 13:26:38 GMT
Well Trump social media is saying he was ambushed. I agree, he has no understanding of the job, never had a desire to learn, doesn't care. Worse, his declining function means he can only speak in "Word Salad". Ambushed? Real people brought and asked their own questions—questions that were not attacking him—but affected their lives. Jesus Christ—could an administration be anymore paranoid and ignorant? 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 13:57:53 GMT
trump just now..
”Thank you for the great reviews of the @abc News show last night!”
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Post by sueg on Sept 16, 2020 14:01:02 GMT
Phillip Bump... ”During the ABC town hall, Trump was asked about a mask mandate and why he doesn't wear one. His responses? - Biden didn't implement a mandate- Waiters don't like masks - Experts used to say no one should wear them” 1. When was Biden supposed to mandate masks? As VP, 3 years before this pandemic started? Surely since then, he hasn't been in a position to mandate anything? 2. I didn't think they were called waiters at McDonalds 3. There are a lot of things that experts have changed their minds on as more evidence has come to light. But most of all #1!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 14:04:49 GMT
Stephanopolis sucks as an interviewer. He let Trump go on and on with BS self-aggrandizing propaganda unrelated to peoples' questions - things that will become sound bytes for the Republicans - and didn't press him to directly answer the questions. He (and much of the media) didn't press him on specific dates instead of letting him lie about his actions. I get so sick of watching the media let him get away with this crap. And why? Because the interviewers in todays world, and the people behind the scenes who should have facts ready related to these topics, are more interested in their own popularity and getting a fat contract next year than in doing their job, doing the research, and confronting him in his lies.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2020 14:23:59 GMT
Twice trump says he has it all ready. I’m assuming he is talking about a replacement for the ACA. Well if that is the case why doesn’t he share it with us? What’s he waiting for? He is waiting for the election so he can go HA HA no more healthcare!! I got it, you don't! Since when does healthcare fall under the Department of Labor? Had me scratching my head too! eyeroll!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2020 14:26:08 GMT
Well Trump social media is saying he was ambushed. I am sure he signed up to be there. Facing the public and THEIR REAL questions!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 14:34:01 GMT
Stephanopolis sucks as an interviewer. He let Trump go on and on with BS self-aggrandizing propaganda unrelated to peoples' questions - things that will become sound bytes for the Republicans - and didn't press him to directly answer the questions. He (and much of the media) didn't press him on specific dates instead of letting him lie about his actions. I get so sick of watching the media let him get away with this crap. And why? Because the interviewers in todays world, and the people behind the scenes who should have facts ready related to these topics, are more interested in their own popularity and getting a fat contract next year than in doing their job, doing the research, and confronting him in his lies. George was ABSOLUTELY USELESS. You KNOW what Trump is going to say "China ban" for example. Have the facts to rebut that fast and hard. For example: Exempted were thousands of residents of the Chinese territories of Hong Kong and Macao. An analysis of Commerce Department travel entry records and private aviation data obtained by the Associated Press show that nearly 8,000 Chinese nationals and foreign residents of the territories entered the U.S. on more than 600 commercial and private flights in the first three months after the ban was imposed... When Trump’s travel restrictions went into effect on Feb. 2, at least 15 cases of the new coronavirus had already been detected in Hong Kong, including one death, and seven more cases had been found in Macao. All the initial Macao cases were later traced to the outbreak in Wuhan. www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-07-04/trumps-strong-wall-to-block-covid-19-from-china-had-holes"Flights continued this past week, the data show, with passengers traveling from Beijing to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York, under rules that exempt Americans and some others from the clampdown that took effect on Feb. 2. In all, 279 flights from China have arrived in the United States since then, and screening procedures have been uneven, interviews show." www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.htmlYOU KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO SAY, GEORGE. FFS, your JOB is to be prepared to rebut the lies and half-truths!!!! Instead he lets Trump amble and shamble and self-aggrandize.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 15:11:02 GMT
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PHILADELPHIA -- ABC News fact checked the claims made by President Donald Trump in a televised town hall on ABC Tuesday night.
President Donald Trump to face uncommitted voters in ABC News town hall event in Philadelphia
THE ECONOMY AND TAXES
Wall Street does not represent Main Street
TRUMP'S CLAIM: Trump touted the success of the stock market, which has rallied after early coronavirus losses in March, as proof that Americans are "doing better than they were doing before the pandemic came."
FACT CHECK: Trump's claim wrongly suggests Wall Street is a strong indicator of how well Main Street is doing.
"Look, we're having a tremendous thing in the stock market, and that's good for everybody," Trump said during the town hall.
"Stocks are owned by everybody," he said. "I mean, you know, they talk about the stock market is so good. That's 401(k)s."
Trump claimed the benefits of the stock market directly benefit everyone, when in fact the vast majority of stocks are owned by the rich. The wealthiest top 10% of American households own over 80% of stocks, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, and almost half of U.S. households own any stock at all, including 401(k)s, according to the Survey of Consumer Finances.
Meanwhile, there are other indicators that more clearly paint a picture of Americans' economic situation as a result of the coronavirus, even as the stock market excels. The unemployment rate skyrocketed from around 3% pre-pandemic to nearly 15% in April. It now sits at 8.4%, meaning more than half of the Americans who lost their jobs are still out of work. Consumer confidence is also down - a measure that show Main Street is struggling even if Wall Street is staying afloat.
Trump misrepresents impact of Biden's tax plan
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "If you look at his policies ... he wants to raise everybody's taxes."
FACT CHECK: The Democratic nominee for president, former Vice President Joe Biden, has said he wants to raise taxes on high earners.
When asked about his tax plan in August, former Vice President Joe Biden told "World News Tonight" Anchor David Muir," "I will raise taxes for anybody making over $400,000."
Biden added, "no new taxes" would be levied for anyone making under $400,000.
However, according to an analysis by the nonprofit Tax Policy Foundation, under Biden's plan, taxes do appear to increase by a small amount across the board. But 93% of increases would be shouldered by the top quintile of taxpayers, according to the analysis.
The Tax Policy Foundation found that the Biden tax plan "would lead to 7.8 percent less after-tax income for the top 1 percent of taxpayers, 1.1 percent lower after-tax income for the top 5 percent, and around 0.6 percent less after-tax income for other income quintiles."
COVID-19
Trump falsely states that more testing accounts for US coronavirus rate
TRUMP'S CLAIM: Stephanopoulos noted that the United States had just 4% of the world's population but more than 20% of its COVID-19 cases and more than 20% of its COVID-19 deaths. Trump replied: "Well, we have 20% of the cases because of the fact that we do much more testing. If we wouldn't do testing you wouldn't have cases. You would have very few cases."
FACT CHECK: While the U.S. has conducted more COVID-19 tests than any other country, Trump is incorrect to say that the level of testing accounts for the country's proportionately higher number of confirmed cases, which he has repeatedly claimed for months.
Fundamentally, cases of COVID-19 exist in a population whether or not testing picks them up.
More testing will, of course, identify more cases.
But according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, there are at least several countries that have conducted more testing per capita than the U.S., but also have fewer cases per capita than the U.S. does - such as Australia, Russia and the United Arab Emirates. Those figures reflect all-time averages of daily tests conducted per capita -- and the daily percentage of tests that come back positive, which is known as the "positivity rate" or the "percent positive rate."
Despite having one of the highest rates of tests per capita, the U.S. faces the largest outbreak in the world and new cases continue to trend upward in many states. The percent positivity in the U.S. remains high at 8%, when other countries with high testing figures report a significantly lower percent positivity rate, according to Johns Hopkins.
Trump is mistaken to suggest the higher reported rate of cases in the United States is purely a result of the increased testing.
Trump cites coronavirus 'excess mortality,' an unreliable international comparison
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "We're starting to get very good marks if you look at what we've done compared to other countries with the excess mortality, the excess mortality rate." // "Excess mortality rate -- it's compared to Europe. Compared to other places, it's about 25% better. In one case, it's over 60% better. And we also have a very big country -- you know, this is -- we're talking about a lot bigger than most countries. "
FACT CHECK: "Excess mortality" is the number of total deaths in a period of time compared with the number of expected deaths.
It's a poor comparison to make, since it doesn't reflect differences in demographics, population density and the state of the pandemic in each place.
The available data is poor, but using the midpoint of an estimate from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and EuropeMOMO data adjusted for population -- the latter of which is missing large parts of Europe -- the rate is about the same for the United State and Europe, according to an analysis by FactCheck.org.
Another source, the "Human Mortality Database," shows that Europe's rate -- not adjusted for population -- is 32% higher, but accounting for population, it's actually 32% lower, according to the FactCheck.org analysis.
Due to the unavailability of strong data, demographic differences, uneven timing of outbreaks, and other factors, Trump's comparison is misconstrued.
Trump overly optimistic on COVID-19 vaccine timing, exaggerates availability
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "We're very close to having a vaccine. ... We're within weeks of getting it. You know, could be three weeks, four weeks but we think we have it."
FACT CHECK: Trump's timeline is overly optimistic and exaggerates how soon most Americans will be able to get vaccinated.
Several potential COVID-19 vaccines are currently going through phase III of trials, with pharmaceutical companies enrolling tens of thousands of participants to test the vaccines' safety and efficacy before the U.S. Food and Drug Administration will approve their general use.
Top U.S. government public health officials and other experts have said that it's possible if everything goes well -- but unlikely -- that vaccine trials will have enough clear and compelling data will be available by the end of October or beginning of November. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's foremost infectious disease expert, has said he thinks there will be a "safe and effective vaccine" by "the end of this calendar year."
But even once that data becomes available for one or more of the vaccines, it will still need to be reviewed by the FDA and an independent advisory committee.
At that point, if the FDA determines the data shows the vaccine is safe and effective, it's possible the agency will grant approval for its use, either in a limited manner with an "emergency use authorization," or for more broad use. At that point, the vaccine is expected to be first given to high-priority groups, like health care workers or those living in nursing homes. It will take months before the wider U.S. general population receives it, according to public health officials.
Trump is wrong to suggest there is no consensus on wearing masks
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "People don't want to wear masks. There are a lot of people [who] think the masks are not good."
FACT CHECK: This view does not reflect the scientific consensus.
The recommendation to wear a mask is now almost unanimous among health experts, including some of the president's own appointees, who have all been very vocal in encouraging the American people to wear masks to curtail the spread of the disease.
Both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization have issued statements urging people to wear masks in public settings.
"There are people that don't think masks are good," Trump said, prompting Stephanopoulos to ask, "Who are those people?"
"Waiters," Trump said. "They come over and they serve you, and they have a mask. They're playing with the mask, so the mask is over and they're touching it, and then they're touching the plate. That can't be good."
But researchers from Stanford University found the opposite.
"Wearing a mask reminds people to continue to be cautious," they said. "With a mask on, you actually touch your face less."
In an interview last month on ABC News' "World News Tonight," Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said "a universal wearing of masks is one of five or six things that are very important in preventing the upsurge in infection."
"We know that during the first wave of the pandemic, those countries that implemented masking early were more successful than others at reducing the spread of the virus," the Stanford researchers wrote.
Duke University researchers have also concluded that "if 95 percent of people wear cloth masks when within 6 feet of other people in public, it will reduce COVID-19 transmission by at least 30 percent."
Trump noted that health experts had originally recommended against wearing a mask -- but his claim was misleading.
"If you look at Dr. Fauci's original statement, you look at a lot of people -- CDC -- they said very strongly, George, [they said], 'Don't wear masks,'" Trump said. "Then all of a sudden, they went to 'wear masks.'"
At the beginning of the pandemic, the CDC and the WHO, as well as Fauci and other top experts, initially discouraged wearing masks because of concerns that masks and other personal protective equipment were in short supply for health care workers who needed them.
While Fauci mainly cited the need to conserve masks, he did say in an interview with "60 Minutes" that wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences, such as leading people to touch their face more often to adjust them, spreading germs from their hands.
In early April, the CDC changed its recommendation about face coverings for the general public, based on evidence that a significant number of people who were asymptomatic or not yet feeling sick were transmitting the virus.
Trump claims he didn't 'downplay' COVID-19 -- despite admitting to having done just that
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "I didn't downplay it. I, actually, in many ways, I up-played it, in terms of action. My action was very strong."
FACT CHECK: During the town hall, Trump said he "didn't downplay" the virus -- when in fact, he has admitted to just that.
"I wanted to always play it down," Trump said in a March 19 interview with veteran journalist Bob Woodward, according to CNN, which obtained an audio recording of the interview, and The Washington Post. "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."
When the audio was first played last week, a reporter asked if he had misled the public in order to reduce panic.
"I think if you said, 'in order to reduce panic,' perhaps that's so," Trump replied. "I'm a cheerleader for this country.'
After Trump said Tuesday night he "didn't downplay it," Stephanopoulos pressed him: "Did you not admit to it yourself saying that you--?"
"Yeah, because what I did was, with China, I put a ban on," Trump said, referring to limitations he put on travel from China starting on Feb. 2. "With Europe, I put a ban on, and we would have lost thousands of more people had I not put the ban on," he added; the ban on certain travel from Europe began March 13.
"So that was called 'action,' not with the mouth but in actual fact," Trump said.
COVID-19 is unlikely to go away on its own, despite Trump's insistence
TRUMP'S CLAIM: COVID-19 is "probably going to go away now a lot faster because of the vaccine. It would go away without the vaccine, George, but it's going to go away a lot faster with the vaccine." George Stephanopoulos: "It will go away without the vaccine?" Trump: "Sure, over a period of time. Sure, with time it goes away."
FACT CHECK: This statement is misleading. The virus is unlikely to go away definitively even with a vaccine. Similar to what has happened with past pandemic influenza viruses and the more mild human coronaviruses that cause "colds," experts believe that as the pandemic wanes, it may synchronize to a seasonal pattern with diminished severity over time due to mutations and reinfection.
Even so, its trajectory is difficult to predict as the virus is still being studied.
HEALTH CARE AND THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
Trump is suing to dismantle the Affordable Care Act, which guarantees coverage for preexisting conditions, and has not proposed an alternative
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "We're going to be doing a health care plan, very strongly, and protect people with preexisting conditions." // "We have other alternatives to Obamacare that are 50% less expensive and that are actually better."
FACT CHECK: While President Trump and Republicans have repeatedly insisted on protecting preexisting conditions, the Trump administration is currently in court seeking to dismantle the Affordable Care Act, which guarantees coverage for Americans with preexisting medical conditions.
Republicans, urged on by Trump, sought to repeal the Affordable Care Act in 2017, falling several votes short in the Senate. They sought to replace the program with an alternative that included multiple options, which experts said offered skimpier preexisting condition protections than Obamacare.
These short-term and association health plans, alternatives promoted by the Trump administration, while cheaper, have fewer benefits for consumers, including weaker preexisting condition protections.
Trump has also repeatedly promised his own health care proposal that has failed to materialize; in June of 2019, he told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos it would be unveiled within two months, and said as recently as last month that it would be released in "two weeks."
Trump again claimed the health care plan was forthcoming - but offered no specific details or timeline.
"I have it already, and it's a much better plan for you," he said on Tuesday.
Trump claims to run Obamacare well -- but cut funding, added limits
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "We have run it so much better than Obama ran it."
FACT CHECK: This claim grossly misrepresents how the Trump administration has administered the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, which the administration is currently in court seeking to dismantle.
Trump has cut funding for Obamacare advertising and navigators that help people obtain health care coverage, and limited enrollment periods for Americans.
The administration in March decided against opening up a window for people to sign up for health care at the start of the coronavirus pandemic.
POLICE VIOLENCE AND RACIAL INEQUALITY
Trump misrepresents Republican police reform bill
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "We have a great senator named Tim Scott, from South Carolina, and he had a plan that was very much of a compromise plan, but it was a plan that everybody pretty much agreed to.
FACT CHECK: Trump mischaracterized Republican Sen. Tim Scott's policing reform proposal, unveiled in June and voted down about a week later, as a "compromise plan."
Democrats did not agree with many of the proposals in the Scott bill, and many, including Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif. and Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., argued the bill did not go far enough to "meet the moment" following the death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man who was killed by police in Minneapolis.
Democrats offered their own, more-sweeping police reform proposal to counter Scott's. The Democratic proposal passed the House, but has not been taken up for a vote by the Senate.
Scott's proposal differed from the Democratic proposal in several key ways: The Democrats hoped to ban the use of chokeholds, which the Scott proposal did not do. The Republican bill also did not eliminate qualified immunity for police officers or ban "no-knock" warrants, both measures Democrats sought.
The Republican bill offered cities incentives for ending the use of chokeholds but did not ban them entirely, establish a 19-member Commission on the Social Status of Black Men and Boys, and included a proposal to beef up funding for popular Community Oriented Policing (COP) programs. It also imposed stiff penalties for any officer who knowingly alters a police report in his or her favor.
While Trump claimed that "a lot of Democrats agreed to" the bill, only three voted to advance it to debate on the Senate floor, effectively killing the legislation.
Trump doesn't tell full story of crime by focusing on cities' Democratic leadership
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "This is a Democrat problem, George. ... This is largely a Democrat problem if you just take a look at the list. Every Democrat city -- almost, not all, but a lot of them, certainly in the top 25, even if you go the top 50 -- almost every city is run by the Democrats. People don't respect our police."
FACT CHECK: Trump repeatedly argued that cities experiencing surges in violent crime are all run by Democratic leaders and that crime is "largely a Democrat problem."
The 20 cities with the highest rates of violent crime per capita are currently led by Democratic mayors, with the exception of Jacksonville, Florida, which is run by a Republican, and two other cities that are run by independents, according to a review of the FBI's uniform crime report from the first six months of 2019, the most recent national data set focusing on violent crime reports.
It is misleading to state, however, as Trump did in the town hall, that rising crime is primarily driven by the Democratic leadership in their respective states.
Cities with higher population and urban areas are certainly represented predominantly by Democrats, but the rise in violent crime across the nation has not been restricted to those that are run by Democrats. The insinuation of a Democratic leader as the cause of the rising crime is not an accurate claim. High population areas and urban areas, run by leaders on both ends of the political spectrum, have historically had higher reported instances of violent crime.
For instance, the Gun Violence Archive, which tracks mass shootings nationwide, last month reported that the country was on pace for nearly 600 mass shootings, which would be the highest total tallied by the group in its history. That predicted total was not a summation of only Democratic-run cities but as a result of the rising crime rate nationwide, including cities and towns led by Republican officials.
Black-white income gap persisted before pandemic, and Trump does not have 'tremendous African American support'
TRUMP'S CLAIM: Trump claimed that he had "tremendous African American support" and that, "had we not been hit by this horrible disease ... we would be in a position where I think income inequality would be different. It was really getting there. We were really driving it down -- I can only compare it to the past. The African American, the Black community, was doing better than it had ever done by far, both in terms of unemployment, homeownership, so many different statistics."
FACT CHECK: The income gap between Black and white Americans has persisted since 1970, despite Trump's comment that it had improved before the COVID-19 pandemic hit.
Median Black household income was 61% of median white household income in 2018, according to the Pew Research Center.
The homeownership gap between Black and white individuals was also at the widest level in 50 years in 2017, according to a 2019 report from the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan think tank.
The president, in his pitch to the Black community, also said, "We have tremendous African American support. You've probably seen it in the polls, we're doing extremely well with African Americans."
But his claim runs counter to recent polling, in which he garners between 5% to 11% support among Black likely voters, according to polls from Fox News and Quinnipiac University.
The most recent polling is similar to where Trump stood in 2016, when 8% of African American voters supported him, according to exit polls. Trump saw slightly higher support in 2016 among this demographic compared to Mitt Romney when he ran on the Republican ticket for president in 2012, and received 6% of the Black vote.
IMMIGRATION
Trump says 'we want people to come,' but legal immigration down, too
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "We want people to come into our country ... but we want them to come in through a legal system."
FACT CHECK: Trump campaigned on the promise to crack down on both legal and illegal immigration.
Under his administration, levels of legal immigration have decreased using such measures as caps on refugee admissions and sharp restrictions on people making asylum claims at the border.
Last year, the administration set a refugee cap of 18,000 people, which was down from the 110,000 limit set by Obama in 2016. The U.S. no longer leads the world in refugee admissions, according to a Pew Research Center report.
The president has ordered the suspension of several visa types this year, including employment-based visas, citing the health crisis.
JUDGES
Trump exaggerates number of confirmed judges
TRUMP'S CLAIM: "At the end of my first term, we're going to have close to 300, maybe over 300 new federal judges, including Court of Appeal, two Supreme Court justices."
FACT CHECK: It is true that the Republican-controlled Senate has confirmed a large number of judicial nominations in Trump's first term, but 300 is an exaggeration.
Two-hundred and ten of Trump's judicial nominees, including 2 Supreme Court justices, over 50 circuit court judges, and over 150 district court judges, have been confirmed to date.
There are currently 74 judicial vacancies, with 48 nominations pending.
Judicial nominations require Senate confirmation, so it is highly unlikely that all vacancies would be filled before the conclusion of Trump's first term.
ABC News offered to host a similar town hall with Democratic presidential nominee and former Vice President Joe Biden, but ABC News and the campaign were not able to find a mutually agreeable date.
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Post by gizzy on Sept 16, 2020 15:29:52 GMT
I can’t stand to listen to him speak, but when I do listen to him (or read transcripts) it is pretty clear that he isn’t always blustering. He doesn’t understand the fundamentals of the job, the country, or any of the issues that we are dealing with. And he doesn’t care that he doesn’t understand. For all of these years I have been trying to hear Trump supporters’ reasons for backing him. I kept waiting for some “aha” moment that would make even a little sense. But that hasn’t happened. And the longer this goes on the less likely it is that will happen. I’ve decided that I will never understand their support because to me, there is no good reason. Trying to understand just leads to more frustration and worse feeling towards those people, so no more. It sounds like there were several more lies in the town hall as well. Also, Bob Woodward was on tv the other day and listening to the tapes from his interview was eye opening as well. He said that he doesn’t think trump understands what is real and what isn’t and that was evident in the tapes. And that is scary. What I've come to notice about his supporters that I know is that they only listen to the soundbites of a news story from fox. They aren't hearing or watching any other news outlets. They aren't seeing for themselves what a liar he is. All they hear is what a tremendous job he's doing and how he is being maligned.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 15:44:01 GMT
“STEPHANOPOULOS: But you’ve been promising a new healthcare plan.
We interviewed – I interviewed you in June of last year, you said the healthcare plan would come in two weeks. You could Chris Wallace that this summer it’d come in three weeks. You promised an executive order on preexisting…
TRUMP: I have it all ready. I have it all ready.“
So if you believe trump he has a healthcare that is “all ready” yet he has not seen fit not to share it with us.
Now the other guy does have a plan that he did share...
”THE BIDEN PLAN TO PROTECT & BUILD ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT I. GIVE EVERY AMERICAN ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE
From the time right before the Affordable Care Act’s key coverage-related policies went into effect to the last full year of the Obama-Biden Administration, 2016, the number of Americans lacking health insurance fell from 44 million to 27 million – an almost 40% drop. But President Trump’s persistent efforts to sabotage Obamacare through executive action, after failing in his efforts to repeal it through Congress, have started to reverse this progress. Since 2016, the number of uninsured Americans has increased by roughly 1.4 million.
As president, Biden will stop this reversal of the progress made by Obamacare. And he won’t stop there. He’ll also build on the Affordable Care Act with a plan to insure more than an estimated 97% of Americans. Here’s how:
Giving Americans a new choice, a public health insurance option like Medicare. If your insurance company isn’t doing right by you, you should have another, better choice. Whether you’re covered through your employer, buying your insurance on your own, or going without coverage altogether, the Biden Plan will give you the choice to purchase a public health insurance option like Medicare.
As in Medicare, the Biden public option will reduce costs for patients by negotiating lower prices from hospitals and other health care providers. It also will better coordinate among all of a patient’s doctors to improve the efficacy and quality of their care, and cover primary care without any co-payments. And it will bring relief to small businesses struggling to afford coverage for their employees.
Increasing the value of tax credits to lower premiums and extend coverage to more working Americans. Today, families that make between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty level may receive a tax credit to reduce how much they have to pay for health insurance on the individual marketplace. The dollar amount of the financial assistance is calculated to ensure each family does not have to pay more than a certain percentage of their income on a silver (medium generosity) plan. But, these shares of income are too high and silver plans’ deductibles are too high. Additionally, many families making more than 400% of the federal poverty level (about $50,000 for a single person and $100,000 for a family of four), and thus not qualifying for financial assistance, still struggle to afford health insurance. The Biden Plan will help middle class families by eliminating the 400% income cap on tax credit eligibility and lowering the limit on the cost of coverage from 9.86% of income to 8.5%. This means that no family buying insurance on the individual marketplace, regardless of income, will have to spend more than 8.5% of their income on health insurance. Additionally, the Biden Plan will increase the size of tax credits by calculating them based on the cost of a more generous gold plan, rather than a silver plan. This will give more families the ability to afford more generous coverage, with lower deductibles and out-of-pocket costs.
Expanding coverage to low-income Americans. Access to affordable health insurance shouldn’t depend on your state’s politics. But today, state politics is getting in the way of coverage for millions of low-income Americans. Governors and state legislatures in 14 states have refused to take up the Affordable Care Act’s expansion of Medicaid eligibility, denying access to Medicaid for an estimated 4.9 million adults. Biden’s plan will ensure these individuals get covered by offering premium-free access to the public option for those 4.9 million individuals who would be eligible for Medicaid but for their state’s inaction, and making sure their public option covers the full scope of Medicaid benefits. States that have already expanded Medicaid will have the choice of moving the expansion population to the premium-free public option as long as the states continue to pay their current share of the cost of covering those individuals. Additionally, Biden will ensure people making below 138% of the federal poverty level get covered. He’ll do this by automatically enrolling these individuals when they interact with certain institutions (such as public schools) or other programs for low-income populations (such as SNAP).Learn more about how Biden’s plan for health care benefits communities of color >>
II. PROVIDE THE PEACE OF MIND OF AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE AND A LESS COMPLEX HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
Today, even for people with health insurance, our health care system is too expensive and too hard to navigate. The Biden Plan will not only provide coverage for uninsured Americans, it will also make health care more affordable and less complex for all.
The plan’s elements described above will help reduce the cost of health insurance and health care for those already insured in the following ways: All Americans will have a new, more affordable option. The public option, like Medicare, will negotiate prices with providers, providing a more affordable option for many Americans who today find their health insurance too expensive. Middle class families will get a premium tax credit to help them pay for coverage. For example, take a family of four with an income of $110,000 per year. If they currently get insurance on the individual marketplace, because their premium will now be capped at 8.5% of their income, under the Biden Plan they will save an estimated $750 per month on insurance alone. That’s cutting their premiums almost in half. If a family is covered by their employer but can get a better deal with the 8.5% premium cap, they can switch to a plan on the individual marketplace, too.
Premium tax credits will be calculated to help more families afford better coverage with lower deductibles. Because the premium tax credits will now be calculated based on the price of a more generous gold plan, families will be able to purchase a plan with a lower deductible and lower out-of-pocket spending. That means many families will see their overall annual health care spending go down.
The Biden Plan has several additional proposals aimed directly at cutting the cost of health care and making the health care system less complex to navigate. The Biden Plan will:
Stop “surprise billing.” Consumers trying to lower their health care spending often try to choose an in-network provider. But sometimes patients are unaware they are receiving care from an out-of-network provider and a big, surprise bill. “Surprise medical billing” could occur, for example, if you go to an in-network hospital but don’t realize a specialist at that hospital is not part of your health plan. The Biden Plan will bar health care providers from charging patients out-of-network rates when the patient doesn’t have control over which provider the patient sees (for example, during a hospitalization).
Tackle market concentration across our health care system. The concentration of market power in the hands of a few corporations is occurring throughout our health care system, and this lack of competition is driving up prices for consumers. The Biden Administration will aggressively use its existing antitrust authority to address this problem.
Lower costs and improve health outcomes by partnering with the health care workforce. The Biden Administration will partner with health care workers and accelerate the testing and deployment of innovative solutions that improve quality of care and increase wages for low-wage health care workers, like home care workers.
III. STAND UP TO ABUSE OF POWER BY PRESCRIPTION DRUG CORPORATIONS
Too many Americans cannot afford their prescription drugs, and prescription drug corporations are profiteering off of the pocketbooks of sick individuals. The Biden Plan will put a stop to runaway drug prices and the profiteering of the drug industry by:
Repealing the outrageous exception allowing drug corporations to avoid negotiating with Medicare over drug prices. Because Medicare covers so many Americans, it has significant leverage to negotiate lower prices for its beneficiaries. And it does so for hospitals and other providers participating in the program, but not drug manufacturers. Drug manufacturers not facing any competition, therefore, can charge whatever price they choose to set. There’s no justification for this except the power of prescription drug lobbying. The Biden Plan will repeal the existing law explicitly barring Medicare from negotiating lower prices with drug corporations.
Limiting launch prices for drugs that face no competition and are being abusively priced by manufacturers. Through his work on the Cancer Moonshot, Biden understands that the future of pharmacological interventions is not traditional chemical drugs but specialized biotech drugs that will have little to no competition to keep prices in check. Without competition, we need a new approach for keeping the prices of these drugs down. For these cases where new specialty drugs without competition are being launched, under the Biden Plan the Secretary of Health and Human Services will establish an independent review board to assess their value. The board will recommend a reasonable price, based on the average price in other countries (a process called external reference pricing) or, if the drug is entering the U.S. market first, based on an evaluation by the independent board members. This reasonable price will be the rate Medicare and the public option will pay. In addition, the Biden Plan will allow private plans participating in the individual marketplace to access a similar rate. Limiting price increases for all brand, biotech, and abusively priced generic drugs to inflation. As a condition of participation in the Medicare program and public option, all brand, biotech, and abusively priced generic drugs will be prohibited from increasing their prices more than the general inflation rate. The Biden Plan will also impose a tax penalty on drug manufacturers that increase the costs of their brand, biotech, or abusively priced generic over the general inflation rate.
Allowing consumers to buy prescription drugs from other countries. To create more competition for U.S. drug corporations, the Biden Plan will allow consumers to import prescription drugs from other countries, as long as the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services has certified that those drugs are safe.
Terminating pharmaceutical corporations’ tax break for advertisement spending. Drug corporations spent an estimated $6 billion in 2016 alone on prescription drug advertisements to increase their sales, a more than four-fold increase from just $1.3 billion in 1997. The American Medical Association has even expressed “concerns among physicians about the negative impact of commercially driven promotions, and the role that marketing costs play in fueling escalating drug prices.” Currently, drug corporations may count spending on these ads as a deduction to reduce the amount of taxes they owe. But taxpayers should not have to foot the bill for these ads. As president, Biden will end this tax deduction for all prescription drug ads, as proposed by Senator Jeanne Shaheen.
Improving the supply of quality generics. Generics help reduce health care spending, but brand drug corporations have succeeded in preserving a number of strategies to help them delay the entrance of a generic into the market even after the patent has expired. The Biden Plan supports numerous proposals to accelerate the development of safe generics, such as Senator Patrick Leahy’s proposal to make sure generic manufacturers have access to a sample.
IV. ENSURE HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT FOR ALL, NOT A PRIVILEGE FOR JUST A FEW
Joe Biden believes that every American – regardless of gender, race, income, sexual orientation, or zip code – should have access to affordable and quality health care. Yet racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and other forms of discrimination permeate our health care system just as in every other part of society. As president, Biden will be a champion for improving access to health care and the health of all by:
Expanding access to contraception and protect the constitutional right to an abortion. The Affordable Care Act made historic progress by ensuring access to free preventive care, including contraception. The Biden Plan will build on that progress. Vice President Biden supports repealing the Hyde Amendment because health care is a right that should not be dependent on one’s zip code or income. And, the public option will cover contraception and a woman’s constitutional right to choose. In addition, the Biden Plan will:
Reverse the Trump Administration and states’ all-out assault on women’s right to choose. As president, Biden will work to codify Roe v. Wade, and his Justice Department will do everything in its power to stop the rash of state laws that so blatantly violate the constitutional right to an abortion, such as so-called TRAP laws, parental notification requirements, mandatory waiting periods, and ultrasound requirements.
Restore federal funding for Planned Parenthood. The Obama-Biden administration fought Republican attacks on funding for Planned Parenthood again and again. As president, Biden will reissue guidance specifying that states cannot refuse Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood and other providers that refer for abortions or provide related information and reverse the Trump Administration’s rule preventing Planned Parenthood and certain other family planning programs from obtaining Title X funds.
Just as the Obama-Biden Administration did,President Biden will rescind the Mexico City Policy (also referred to as the global gag rule) that President Trump reinstated and expanded. This rule currently bars the U.S. federal government from supporting important global health efforts – including for malaria and HIV/AIDS – in developing countries simply because the organizations providing that aid also offer information on abortion services.
Reducing our unacceptably high maternal mortality rate, which especially impacts people of color. Compared to other developed nations, the U.S. has the highest rate of deaths related to pregnancy and childbirth, and we are the only country experiencing an increase in this death rate. This problem is especially prevalent among black women, who experience a death rate from complications related to pregnancy that is more than three times higher than the rate for non-Hispanic white women. California came up with a strategy that halved the state’s maternal death rate. As president, Biden will take this strategy nationwide.
Defending health care protections for all, regardless of gender, gender identity, or sexual orientation. Before the Affordable Care Act, insurance companies could increase premiums merely due to someone’s gender, sexual orientation, or gender identity. Further, insurance companies could increase premiums or deny coverage altogether due to someone’s HIV status. Yet, President Trump is trying to walk back this progress. For example, he has proposed to once again allow health care providers and insurance companies to discriminate based on a patient’s gender identity or abortion history. President Biden will defend the rights of all people – regardless of gender, sexual orientation, gender identity – to have access to quality, affordable health care free from discrimination. Doubling America’s investment in community health centers. Community health centers provide primary, prenatal, and other important care to underserved populations. The Biden Plan will double the federal investment in these centers, expanding access to high quality health care for the populations that need it most.
Achieving mental health parity and expanding access to mental health care. As Vice President, Biden was a champion for efforts to implement the federal mental health parity law, improve access to mental health care, and eliminate the stigma around mental health. As President, he will redouble these efforts to ensure enforcement of mental health parity laws and expand funding for mental health services.
In the months ahead, Biden will put forward additional plans to tackle health challenges affecting specific communities, including access to health care in rural communities, gun violence, and opioid addiction.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 16, 2020 15:48:47 GMT
Anyone with a basic IQ knows he is completely out of touch with reality. He is what he is and has always been only now he is completely demented.
I believe one of the most powerful tools that society has (aside from voting) is shunning those who poison our country. For the rest of my life as soon as I find out that someone supported that psycho they will be dead to me. trump couldn’t do what he is doing without those that want to suck his dick. Those who enable him are as sick as he is.
I am not talking about conservatives or all republicans, just those who grovel at his feet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 16:14:40 GMT
Stephanopolis sucks as an interviewer. He let Trump go on and on with BS self-aggrandizing propaganda unrelated to peoples' questions - things that will become sound bytes for the Republicans - and didn't press him to directly answer the questions. He (and much of the media) didn't press him on specific dates instead of letting him lie about his actions. I get so sick of watching the media let him get away with this crap. And why? Because the interviewers in todays world, and the people behind the scenes who should have facts ready related to these topics, are more interested in their own popularity and getting a fat contract next year than in doing their job, doing the research, and confronting him in his lies. ITA! My first question as an interviewer would be, "Do you need tissues?? Why are you sniffling so much? Are you sick??" He was so freakin' high, once again--so high on speed. ANYONE could see it and nobody says anything!!! WHY? 
He sounded like a really, really old grandpa, sitting in his loungechair, repeating the SAME rhetoric, word for word, again and again, and it made no sense at all!
Stephanopolis did interrupt him to remind him of some reality/truths, but it was rare. He think that if he can go on and on, people will believe him. Scary sight to behold!!! HE'S A MORON!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 16, 2020 16:19:29 GMT
That town hall was a total lie infused shitshow. Once again it showcased exactly how ignorant Trump truly is.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 16, 2020 16:21:22 GMT
I wonder if the reporters and interviewers let him blather on in an effort to have him hang himself with his idiotic statements?
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Post by hop2 on Sept 16, 2020 16:26:13 GMT
Twice trump says he has it all ready. I’m assuming he is talking about a replacement for the ACA. Well if that is the case why doesn’t he share it with us? What’s he waiting for? He is waiting for the election so he can go HA HA no more healthcare!! I got it, you don't! Since when does healthcare fall under the Department of Labor? Had me scratching my head too! eyeroll! Because you can only get it thru your job, If you’ve lost your job, well screw you. If your small business can’t provide it screw you the stock market is fine, get a better job.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 16, 2020 16:53:26 GMT
i firmly believe he has NO intention of releasing a health plan before the election. if, by chance, he wins, then he will do everything in his power to further dismantle the ACA. he will have nothing to lose because he will already be terming out. i think he will focus his legacy on overturning as much, if not all, of the ACA. the scorched earth plan, per se.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 16, 2020 16:58:12 GMT
I also think it is increasingly clear that he doesn't care about the job of being President. He only cares about getting re-elected. It would look bad if he is a one-term President, which is the main reason he wants to win.
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Post by Belia on Sept 16, 2020 17:27:09 GMT
I also think it is increasingly clear that he doesn't care about the job of being President. He only cares about getting re-elected. It would look bad if he is a one-term President, which is the main reason he wants to win. I think he knows he's in real danger of being charged with a crime and serving jail time once he leaves office, and that's why he's so desparate to remain in a job he doesn't even like. Well, that and his ego.
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