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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:12:47 GMT
I was talking to a friend the other day and this question came up. I thought for quite a while, but I honestly could not think of one thing he has done that has had a direct, noticeable impact on me. Now, we are a middle class, white family in rural MN, so I totally understand that the chance of anything truly impacting me is very small. I even thought back to other Presidencies and tried to think of a direct impact any had on me. Now I am sure there are some, but nothing so major that it stands out. Tax changes here and there, but again, nothing major. So, I am asking you all so I get a broader "sample", what policies have had a direct impact on you, a tangible impact? I am not talking emotional, not potential, real life change impact. Bad and good. There are a couple "rules", first no COVID, that is an issue all on it's own. Second, it had to impact you, your minor child or significant other. So no, a friend of mine etc. I am also going to ask a broader question, has any Presidency had a major, direct impact on you? On this one I will give you your family if it happened when you were younger. I promise I am not looking for "gotcha" moments, I am just very curious his true impact on individuals and gain some knowledge. Also, I may play devil's advocate on occasion and challenge you or request a source so I can do some research on my own. I want to thank everyone in advance for sharing I am hoping to have some good conversation with you all, but this is political and it is 2Peas Refugees, so anything can happen.  ETA - I took a break last night to watch the debate. I want to thank each of you for sharing so much. As I said, I could not see a big impact for me, but I knew others were affected greatly and I wanted to actually hear it from others. Someone said I was being short sighted. I asked this because I knew my experience was short sighted and I wanted to expand that, but I needed to hear from others. I needed to get out of my little bubble. I also want to thank everyone for being so civil. You have given me some things I want to do more research on. One common thread was the anxiety/emotions people are now feeling. My personality is not one to feel anxious too much. I am very concerned about a lot that has and is happening, but it does not affect me like it does others. Please do not take that as an insult, it is just how I am wired, like your reaction is how you are wired. Again, thank you for sharing. |
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 29, 2020 23:18:48 GMT
I am a white, middle-class woman, and have not been largely impacted by his presidency, YET. I don’t think there’s really any way to see what ramifications we will be seeing, for potentially decades.
However, just because something hasn’t affected me, personally, doesn’t mean I can sit idly by. I see what it has done to other people, and it is my duty as a citizen of our country to fight like hell for those whose voices aren’t heard as easily as mine.
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Post by lauradrumm on Sept 29, 2020 23:23:48 GMT
I believe his lying and poor handling of Covid19 caused a worse problem which resulted in my small business being close 6 months. I wonder if I’ll only pay $750 in taxes?!
I’m also constantly afraid he’s going to cut the ACA and pre-existing conditions.
As you may have read from an earlier post of mine he’s caused breakups of friendships.
My anxiety level is through the roof!
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Post by pierogi on Sept 29, 2020 23:25:40 GMT
I've lost a loved one from Covid.
Given that there are almost 211,000 people dead now from a pandemic that didn't have to happen, I imagine there are others grieving like me. I'm also cut off from family in Europe thanks to the travel ban against the US. That also didn't have to happen.
Edit: I see you said "no Covid." That may not be an issue for you, but it's a huge, direct issue for me.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:26:20 GMT
I am a white, middle-class woman, and have not been largely impacted by his presidency, YET. I don’t think there’s really any way to see what ramifications we will be seeing, for potentially decades. However, just because something hasn’t affected me, personally, doesn’t mean I can sit idly by. I see what it has done to other people, and it is my duty as a citizen of our country to fight like hell for those whose voices aren’t heard as easily as mine. This is one of the reasons I am asking the question because I don't see a noticeable difference. And just because I am not affected does not mean others are not. Thank you. |
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Post by peabay on Sept 29, 2020 23:29:01 GMT
No Covid? But that's HUGE. Why is it an issue of its own?
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Post by gsquaredmom on Sept 29, 2020 23:29:21 GMT
The amount we pay in taxes doubled with his tax cut. My husband and I are both special ed teachers and we can no longer deduct items we buy for our students. So, less money coming in but we still buy things for our students. Double whammy.
As a teacher, I have seen fear in my EL kids’ eyes. I have seen Confederate flag stickers on Chromebooks and Confederate flags on student cars. I have heard racist and homophobic remarks spoken to others. I have seen racist and homophobic words scrawled on walls. Trump has changed our young people. I love my job. But I don’t love what Trump is creating in my school.
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Post by melissa25 on Sept 29, 2020 23:32:35 GMT
I've lost a loved one from Covid. Given that there are almost 211,000 people dead now from a pandemic that didn't have to happen, I imagine there are others grieving like me. I'm also cut off from family in Europe thanks to the travel ban against the US. That also didn't have to happen. Edit: I see you said "no Covid." That may not be an issue for you, but it's a huge, direct issue for me. Trump lied when he said 200,000 died from Covid, I heard it’s 2 million people from a reliable source. |
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Post by amom23 on Sept 29, 2020 23:32:55 GMT
We own a family farm and Trump's trade war with China has impacted our bottom line and reduced our income.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 29, 2020 23:33:35 GMT
My son asked this the other day. My response (off the top of my head):
-our taxes have gone up
-our income has gone down due to Covid. I don't blame him completely but do think that his lack of response has caused more economic distress for many.
-not as direct, but I do think that the Trump presidency has affected our standing in the world and made us less safe
-increased racism. My husband is black and my kids are biracial. This has the potential to greatly affect us.
-increased anxiety
-loss of friendships and family members (they are also accountable for their words and actions)
-our healthcare costs have gone up
-loss of trust in government agencies
Like Gennifer said, just because something doesn't affect you in an obvious, direct way doesn't mean that it has no effect on you.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:37:46 GMT
No Covid? But that's HUGE. Why is it an issue of its own? Because I know he handled it poorly. I also do not think one policy should have been for across the US, I think individual states should have led the way to do what was best for their states. COVID was going to have a huge impact no matter who was POTUS. I also feel for COVID there is a lot of personal responsibility people need to take and I know his example was one many followed, and it sucked, but many also took it very seriously. |
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:38:31 GMT
The amount we pay in taxes doubled with his tax cut. My husband and I are both special ed teachers and we can no longer deduct items we buy for our students. So, less money coming in but we still buy things for our students. Double whammy. As a teacher, I have seen fear in my EL kids’ eyes. I have seen Confederate flag stickers on Chromebooks and Confederate flags on student cars. I have heard racist and homophobic remarks spoken to others. I have seen racist and homophobic words scrawled on walls. Trump has changed our young people. I love my job. But I don’t love what Trump is creating in my school. Thank you for your response. I can see that having an impact on many. |
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Post by lisae on Sept 29, 2020 23:39:42 GMT
I'm pricing new flooring for my home and they couldn't tell me right away what the cost would be because there are new tariffs on Chinese goods. I'm awaiting a call. It will likely add around $800 to the final cost if this particular floor I've selected is manufactured in China as opposed to South Korea or another country. And that is just the one thing I know about and just this round of tariffs. I've bought other things in the last 4 years likely increased in cost due to the tariffs.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:39:51 GMT
We own a family farm and Trump's trade war with China has impacted our bottom line and reduced our income. I am sorry. Thank you for sharing. I figured his trade agreements would be a big, direct issue for many, not just large corporations. |
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:41:35 GMT
I'm pricing new flooring for my home and they couldn't tell me right away what the cost would be because there are new tariffs on Chinese goods. I'm awaiting a call. It will likely add around $800 to the final cost if this particular floor I've selected is manufactured in China as opposed to South Korea or another country. And that is just the one thing I know about and just this round of tariffs. I've bought other things in the last 4 years likely increased in cost due to the tariffs. I have also seen the price of some items go up, but I am never sure if it really because of the tariffs or just the potential they may have. Thank you. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 29, 2020 23:42:37 GMT
No Covid? But that's HUGE. Why is it an issue of its own? Because I know he handled it poorly. I also do not think one policy should have been for across the US, I think individual states should have led the way to do what was best for their states. COVID was going to have a huge impact no matter who was POTUS. I also feel for COVID there is a lot of personal responsibility people need to take and I know his example was one many followed, and it sucked, but many also took it very seriously. How each individual acts regarding Covid only goes so far. His response and that of his followers has greatly affected us ALL and continues to affect us as well as our communities. ETA that at the very least, having a unified response to the virus would have made it less stressful and divisive. |
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:45:15 GMT
My son asked this the other day. My response (off the top of my head): -our taxes have gone up -our income has gone down due to Covid. I don't blame him completely but do think that his lack of response has caused more economic distress for many. -not as direct, but I do think that the Trump presidency has affected our standing in the world and made us less safe -increased racism. My husband is black and my kids are biracial. This has the potential to greatly affect us. -increased anxiety -loss of friendships and family members (they are also accountable for their words and actions) -our healthcare costs have gone up -loss of trust in government agencies Like Gennifer said, just because something doesn't affect you in an obvious, direct way doesn't mean that it has no effect on you. With our income changes over the last couple years it is hard to see exactly how our taxes have changed and what was the real impact. I don't believe he increased racism, but I think the way he is so crudely speaks without thinking of the impact of his words he has emboldened others to speak their thoughts also, so we see it a lot more. |
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Post by Restless Spirit on Sept 29, 2020 23:45:58 GMT
His recent tax cuts have essentially defunded social security, Medicare and Medicaid. If reelected Trump has promised to permanently defend these programs.
This affects me and my DH directly.
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Post by elaine on Sept 29, 2020 23:46:29 GMT
Neo-Nazis marched 1 hour from my home, and were praised by the President. Shortly thereafter my Jewish Community Center was vandalized with swastikas.
You can dismiss it as “emotional” if you’d like, but as a Jew, I can tell you that the impact of his repeated White Supremacy dog whistles and overt praise of White Supremacists is real and negative.
Our taxes have gone up and we’ve lost deductions that we’ve been able to take in the past.
eta: this morning I just want to mention that I wrote this post before last night’s debate in which Trump did it once again.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:47:43 GMT
Because I know he handled it poorly. I also do not think one policy should have been for across the US, I think individual states should have led the way to do what was best for their states. COVID was going to have a huge impact no matter who was POTUS. I also feel for COVID there is a lot of personal responsibility people need to take and I know his example was one many followed, and it sucked, but many also took it very seriously. How each individual acts regarding Covid only goes so far. His response and that of his followers has greatly affected us ALL and continues to affect us as well as our communities. As I said, he has been a horrible example of following recommended procedures. What is funny I have seen many people lately that say he is doing wrong but then they attend a large family event because it is only 200 people and we are outside and we all know each other. One county had 4 large weddings in one weekend. I really think the people in that county want it to completely shut down. |
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:49:11 GMT
Neo-Nazis marched 1 hour from my home, and were praised by the President. Shortly thereafter my Jewish Community Center was vandalized with swastikas. You can dismiss it as “emotional” if you’d like, but as a Jew, I can tell you that the impact of his repeated White Supremacy dog whistles and overt praise of White Supremacists is real and negative. Our taxes have gone up and we’ve lost deductions that we’ve been able to take in the past. That is sickening and if you ever did anything at the community center then that is a direct impact. Sorry is just not enough, but that is all I can do over a message board at this time. |
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 29, 2020 23:50:03 GMT
Our taxes increased. Property taxes in NH are really high and those are now capped.
We traveled to Europe last summer. I was embarrassed to be an American and felt the need to apologize for Trump.
Trump’s nominations to the Supreme Court have not had a direct impact yet, but if he manages to appoint another one, that could have massive impacts on every American from health care, religious freedom, LGBTQ rights, juvenile justice to immigration and those are just the cases scheduled to be heard this November.
Trump’s denial of climate change has an impact on everyone. The fires out West and more severe and frequent hurricanes have an impact on the south. I’m not blaming Trump for climate change but he is responsible for rolling back regulations and not doing more to stop climate change. On an individual level, my brother is the CEO of an alternative fuel company, his business has been significantly affected.
My vote will not be based on how his decisions have directly impacted my day to day life. My decision will be based on his incompetence, poor leadership, poor handling of covid, divisiveness, tax cuts for the wealthy, attempt to dismantle the ACA, corruption, nepotism, threats to democracy and our constitution and so much more.
eta - I have 2 college age kids who are on our health insurance, partly as a result of the Affordable Care Act. If that is repealed, they may no longer be covered.
My mail has also been delayed as a result of Trump and deJoy messing with the post office.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Sept 29, 2020 23:50:09 GMT
His recent tax cuts have essentially defunded social security, Medicare and Medicaid. If reelected Trump has promised to permanently defend these programs. This affects me and my DH directly. I will have to research this more. We are 15 years from retirement, so it is on our mind a lot, way too much actually. Thank you. |
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Post by Gennifer on Sept 29, 2020 23:51:37 GMT
No Covid? But that's HUGE. Why is it an issue of its own? I really agree with this. My income has been slashed to maybe 20% of normal, due specifically to COVID. I didn’t post that because OP requested it not be included. |
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Post by jubejubes on Sept 29, 2020 23:52:11 GMT
Everyone who eats or drinks has been directly affected by this Presidency.
Food prices have gone up, due to trade deals and cuts to subsidies (or tax cuts) to farmers and therefore to the person who eats food.
There have been tariffs on aluminum that have impacted everyone who uses a can for food or drink. Food producers have had to close shifts due to the lack and expense of aluminum cans.
Softwood trades have been difficult and have caused the price of housing to go up.
There have been changes to the taxation and due to the complaints from peas at tax time, this was apparent that this affected many peas.
The lack of affordable health care that many peas seem to have, with many threads about when do I go to the doctor and such, are rather astonishing to this Canadian.
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Post by flanz on Sept 29, 2020 23:57:36 GMT
I am a white, middle-class woman, and have not been largely impacted by his presidency, YET. I don’t think there’s really any way to see what ramifications we will be seeing, for potentially decades. However, just because something hasn’t affected me, personally, doesn’t mean I can sit idly by. I see what it has done to other people, and it is my duty as a citizen of our country to fight like hell for those whose voices aren’t heard as easily as mine.THIS!!!! Due to his mishandling of Covid I have no idea when I can safely travel 2500 miles to visit my elderly mum in Canada!! There is a huge list of ways his mishandling has affected my life, I won't list them all. His racist dog whistles and encouragement of "good people on both sides" has weakened our country and endangered many innocents. And as far as a presidency impacting me personally, the Affordable Care Act under President Obama allowed our kids to remain on our health insurance plans until they were 26 years of age. And no more pre-existing conditions caused a huge sigh of relief! |
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Post by elaine on Sept 29, 2020 23:59:58 GMT
Neo-Nazis marched 1 hour from my home, and were praised by the President. Shortly thereafter my Jewish Community Center was vandalized with swastikas. You can dismiss it as “emotional” if you’d like, but as a Jew, I can tell you that the impact of his repeated White Supremacy dog whistles and overt praise of White Supremacists is real and negative. Our taxes have gone up and we’ve lost deductions that we’ve been able to take in the past. That is sickening and if you ever did anything at the community center then that is a direct impact. Sorry is just not enough, but that is all I can do over a message board at this time. Yes, the JCC of Northern VA is the Community Center where we regularly attend events. My boys both took swimming lessons there. My older son belongs to a Young Adults w/Special Needs Social Group that they run. It is a wonderful place. |
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Post by garcia5050 on Sept 30, 2020 0:01:28 GMT
Tangible affect for me is taxes. I’ve paid over $3,000 for each of the last 2 years, amounts that used to be less than $250.
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Post by PLurker on Sept 30, 2020 0:02:45 GMT
My son asked this the other day. My response (off the top of my head): -our taxes have gone up -our income has gone down due to Covid. I don't blame him completely but do think that his lack of response has caused more economic distress for many. -not as direct, but I do think that the Trump presidency has affected our standing in the world and made us less safe -increased racism. My husband is black and my kids are biracial. This has the potential to greatly affect us. -increased anxiety -loss of friendships and family members (they are also accountable for their words and actions) -our healthcare costs have gone up -loss of trust in government agencies Like Gennifer said, just because something doesn't affect you in an obvious, direct way doesn't mean that it has no effect on you. With our income changes over the last couple years it is hard to see exactly how our taxes have changed and what was the real impact. I don't believe he increased racism, but I think the way he is so crudely speaks without thinking of the impact of his words he has emboldened others to speak their thoughts also, so we see it a lot more. More than emboldening them to speak out, I think he has increased the acting out on those thoughts and hurting people or at the very least putting them in danger. |
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Post by peano on Sept 30, 2020 0:12:20 GMT
Go ahead and minimize the emotional impact of the extreme rifts between family and friends such as I have lived over the past four years, but what you are dismissing is that we are going to see the aftereffects of this for YEARS to come, long after different administrations have come and gone. It is a real issue, and it is tragic.
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