POTUS election results thread

I’m not particularly a fan of Boris, but I think you’re probably right - a lot of that is diplomacy. Plus a healthy dose of “don’t piss off the unstable yank with the nuclear codes”, sadly.

i don't think he can read either.  i don't think that is much of a secret anymore especially when he is constantly filmed mispronouncing words and struggling with the teleprompter.

when i hear about adults who can't read, i am reminded of my last few days of junior high.  everyone was signing yearbooks and i noticed a girl copying phrases from from a slip of paper in her hand.  i had classes with this girl for 3 years and she was the nicest person.  in hindsight, i remember her doing group homework a lot.  As in, she was copying her homework from others and never sharing her own work. i think people let her copy because she was so nice. i think this is how she hid her illiteracy. still blows my mind to this day.

You husband illustrates what is at the core of why these things happen, IMO.  A. Nobody trusts or likes Democrats. IMO, Minority voters and rural GOP voters actually have a lot of the same core fears, manifesting, to use the Harry Potter universe, as different Bogarts:  Democrats will not help me.  B.  A bi-product of the lack of trust is that all Americans find the rhetoric coming from their tribe easy to believe.  So on the far left, it's Biden can't be progressive, Kamala has betrayed the black community, etc.  On the right it's things like Democrats don't want a strong military or guns, and on the far right it's all the socialism crap.  I just read your additional post about the parents.  So I can see the emotional rebellion, "I will not be my parents!"

People are out of their mind over, why 70 million people can vote for Trump.  But when you believe both sides will screw you over, how much does character really matter?  Pragmatically, you look for what they will choose in their best interest that is also in your best interest.  So for a lot of people, you pick the side that will lower taxes, you pick the side who will reopen the economy, you pick the side that will put troublemakers in their place.  Or at least that side isn't as actively trying to murder me.  People are looking for scraps of whatever they can find, because then at least you get something, and they don't believe what the other side is offering, will actually be given.  And like I posted, earlier about life as a zero sum game, people believe that if "people like them" are being helped "people like me," aren't.  Or, "I am nothing like them, how can what helps them, possibly help me?" 

Other minority / rural GOP comparison I am comfortable making is that both are trying desperately to hold onto what they have because they feel like they have so little, and are scared to death of having even less.  And everyone suffers from the same deeply engrained American trait, "Nobody, but nobody tells me what I should do."  Some may be better at recognizing when we getting that rise, about doing something we don't want, but the dang thing needs to get done anyway.  I say these things knowing how likely it is to piss off one side or the other who in their heart of hearts believe they are NOTHING like those crazy people!  Unfortunately, we, and the rest of the world, have a lot of class warfare that are wrapped up to look like other things.  But it's the same merry-go-round: plebs vs patricians, proletariat vs bourgeois, etc. and as long as the "haves" can keep the "have nots" at each other's throats, they won't come for them.  

I'm rambling again.  But I am worried about the widening chasm coming from "how could they vote for him!"  and assigning things like bigotry and ignorance.  When there is also fear, desperation, pragmatism survival for their family.  What is motivating one side is motiving the other just manifesting differently.

Don't they still have a country to run?

The mood at the White House today has been sombre, several Trump officials have told CBS News, the BBC's partner in the US.

Some of the president's aides haven't shown up to work today, and the atmosphere is "very empty", says CBS.

Our own reporter at the scene, Tara McKelvey, has had a similar experience.

"A lot of the desks are empty. It feels spooky. Some of the staffers are outside the White House, talking privately on their mobile phones and walking around," she says.



While Trump has fired off tweets, promising a legal challenge to ensure he is re-elected, aides say he may make another address to the nation again tonight.

They say the chances that he will give a televised address will go up if Biden speaks tonight, as his campaign has signalled he may do.

I literally fell asleep in my seat 7 hours ago and dragged myself off to bed. So excited to wake up to PA news! And am I right that we have the Senate as well? Can someone give my a brief synopsis on what I missed?

I was having a virtual election party (still restrictions in Melbourne with people in your home) with some friends last night as we tracked every vote. Now starting to plan our inauguration party! So, so, so happy this morning! Well done Americans - you did it!

In front of the elections dept of Maricopa County right now (illustrating @dottyscrapper 's point):





The cognitive dissonance. I just can't. "Stop the count!" yesterday and now "Count our votes!" How do they deal with constant whiplash like that?

Edited: Can't find the right video of the moment on NBC News yesterday when the armed protestors showed up at Maricopa County. Sorry. But it happened live with Gadi Schwartz as I was watching the stream.

Don’t blame them, I wouldn’t show up either and be subjected to his tantrums. He’s a lot like my friends ex, he’s unpredictable and when he’s that way he’s violent.

Oh man, that is the perfect analogy!

Oh, it's 48 - 48 right now. Very, very tense.

Well heck, my kids are going to expect dinner in another 10 minutes and I really needed some closure on this... Friday night is pizza night and I was looking forward to eating a celebratory feast with a knife and fork in honor of the newly elected President 😂 Damned if I will be the one to jinx this!

I have verified with DH that we still have some leftover fireworks in the garage from July 4th and fully plan on putting on our own Independence Day show when they finally make the call!

I was watching Omarosa Newman being interviewed on Sky News and she said many of them will already be scrambling to find new jobs . I think she said about 3,600 admin and senior staff will be out of work if/when Trump leaves.

She also said one of her contacts in there said Trump was barking and shouting at people to ‘sort this out’ etc. Not sure I’d want to be anywhere near him right now!

It was a stupid ass video that I think was made up that started this AZ sharpie gate shit. People in Arizona are pretty pissed about the attorney general flaming this more instead of curbing it. They can go to hell. We are not turning back to red

Hanging Chads anyone?